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	<title>Comments on: Another reason to support same sex marriage</title>
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		<title>By: eszett</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101307</link>
		<dc:creator>eszett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Lucia Maria (1,268) Says: 
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:37 pm
This video is a clear piss take of women, unless of course, gays really do have such a SHALLOW view of ‘what real women really want’ !

Good point, Harriet. And your 1:23pm as well.

Exactly why I don’t think it’s funny.
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Further to my point, and despite your claim otherwise, neither of you get the joke. Which is really not surprising, given your irrational hostility towards homosexuality.

The joke juxtapositions male homosexual and male heterosexual stereotypes. You need some truly twisted &quot;logic&quot; to take this as a piss take of women. Having said that, the two of you certainly aren&#039;t making any sense when it comes to this topic.

Yet if you&#039;d like some balance, try this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0Be8LnuG3U]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Lucia Maria (1,268) Says:<br />
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:37 pm<br />
This video is a clear piss take of women, unless of course, gays really do have such a SHALLOW view of ‘what real women really want’ !</p>
<p>Good point, Harriet. And your 1:23pm as well.</p>
<p>Exactly why I don’t think it’s funny.
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<p>Further to my point, and despite your claim otherwise, neither of you get the joke. Which is really not surprising, given your irrational hostility towards homosexuality.</p>
<p>The joke juxtapositions male homosexual and male heterosexual stereotypes. You need some truly twisted &#8220;logic&#8221; to take this as a piss take of women. Having said that, the two of you certainly aren&#8217;t making any sense when it comes to this topic.</p>
<p>Yet if you&#8217;d like some balance, try this.</p>
<p><span class='embed-youtube' style='text-align:center; display: block;'><iframe class='youtube-player' type='text/html' width='560' height='345' src='http://www.youtube.com/embed/r0Be8LnuG3U?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;wmode=transparent' frameborder='0'></iframe></span></p>
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		<title>By: Lucia Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101296</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucia Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RRM,

I&#039;m not joking and I do understand &quot;the gay thing&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RRM,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not joking and I do understand &#8220;the gay thing&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucia Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101295</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucia Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;This video is a clear piss take of women, unless of course, gays really do have such a SHALLOW view of ‘what real women really want’ !&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good point, Harriet.  And your 1:23pm as well.

Exactly why I don&#039;t think it&#039;s funny.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This video is a clear piss take of women, unless of course, gays really do have such a SHALLOW view of ‘what real women really want’ !</p></blockquote>
<p>Good point, Harriet.  And your 1:23pm as well.</p>
<p>Exactly why I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s funny.</p>
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		<title>By: RRM</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101287</link>
		<dc:creator>RRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;What about children, there gets to be a point where women want children. Who wants to be having sex with a man who’s been doing unspeakable things with other men? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

:neutral: Not sure if you&#039;re joking, or you really don&#039;t understand the gay thing at all...?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What about children, there gets to be a point where women want children. Who wants to be having sex with a man who’s been doing unspeakable things with other men? </p></blockquote>
<p> <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':neutral:' class='wp-smiley' />  Not sure if you&#8217;re joking, or you really don&#8217;t understand the gay thing at all&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Harriet</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101280</link>
		<dc:creator>Harriet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...Get back in the kitchen and shut the fuck up woman. Why are you not making me a sandwich? Leave the debating to men who know how to argue. Women need to keep silent and be used to pump out children, you have no place in politics and discussion...&quot;

Real women and prospective mothers actually look for  &#039;husbands and fathers&#039; and they are generally the strongest, and the better providers. An example for the children. The next generation of adults! 

However some women look for people like you, flaccid metrosexuals, those &#039;males&#039; that when they are getting  their &#039;conjugal rights&#039; from the missionary position,  find that their &#039;women&#039; are looking right over their shoulders and past them. Looking for what they need: Secure men. :cool:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Get back in the kitchen and shut the fuck up woman. Why are you not making me a sandwich? Leave the debating to men who know how to argue. Women need to keep silent and be used to pump out children, you have no place in politics and discussion&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Real women and prospective mothers actually look for  &#8216;husbands and fathers&#8217; and they are generally the strongest, and the better providers. An example for the children. The next generation of adults! </p>
<p>However some women look for people like you, flaccid metrosexuals, those &#8216;males&#8217; that when they are getting  their &#8216;conjugal rights&#8217; from the missionary position,  find that their &#8216;women&#8217; are looking right over their shoulders and past them. Looking for what they need: Secure men. <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lucia Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101215</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucia Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I get the joke, I just don&#039;t think it&#039;s funny.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get the joke, I just don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Smits</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101214</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Smits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Lucia Maria (1,264) Says:
February 22nd, 2013 at 10:30 am

They love going to the gym… so, who’s going to be mowing the lawns and cleaning out the gutters and painting the house?

What about children, there gets to be a point where women want children. Who wants to be having sex with a man who’s been doing unspeakable things with other men?

Then there’s the clothing, what woman wants her husband spending all of the clothing budget on himself?

So they can make quiche, whoop de do. Wonder if they can fix the car and the wifi. Or is the girl going have to learn how to do that while he’s cooking up a storm in the kitchen?

This YouTube really needs a companion video. The Epic Rap Battle guys should get onto it. The closest they’ve got is Epic Rap Battle of Manliness.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Get back in the kitchen and shut the fuck up woman. Why are you not making me a sandwich? Leave the debating to men who know how to argue. Women need to keep silent and be used to pump out children, you have no place in politics and discussion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Lucia Maria (1,264) Says:<br />
February 22nd, 2013 at 10:30 am</p>
<p>They love going to the gym… so, who’s going to be mowing the lawns and cleaning out the gutters and painting the house?</p>
<p>What about children, there gets to be a point where women want children. Who wants to be having sex with a man who’s been doing unspeakable things with other men?</p>
<p>Then there’s the clothing, what woman wants her husband spending all of the clothing budget on himself?</p>
<p>So they can make quiche, whoop de do. Wonder if they can fix the car and the wifi. Or is the girl going have to learn how to do that while he’s cooking up a storm in the kitchen?</p>
<p>This YouTube really needs a companion video. The Epic Rap Battle guys should get onto it. The closest they’ve got is Epic Rap Battle of Manliness.</p></blockquote>
<p>Get back in the kitchen and shut the fuck up woman. Why are you not making me a sandwich? Leave the debating to men who know how to argue. Women need to keep silent and be used to pump out children, you have no place in politics and discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101150</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hinamanu, the rights of children argument implies that parents have to be a couple and raise their children together and never separate/marry another. Most children not raised by both their parents have heterosexual birth parents. 

The idea that a father or mother cannot marry the partner that lives with them (while they raise up their children while the other parent is elsewhere) is preposterous - whether heterosexual or same sex.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hinamanu, the rights of children argument implies that parents have to be a couple and raise their children together and never separate/marry another. Most children not raised by both their parents have heterosexual birth parents. </p>
<p>The idea that a father or mother cannot marry the partner that lives with them (while they raise up their children while the other parent is elsewhere) is preposterous &#8211; whether heterosexual or same sex.</p>
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		<title>By: Fletch</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101139</link>
		<dc:creator>Fletch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure, it&#039;s amusing but (if you&#039;re wanting to get into it, which I suppose people on the thread are) I notice the idea of L-O-V-E is missing. If you love someone, you look past  their defects or shortcomings. It&#039;s not a game of one-upmanship.

I&#039;m sure many of the men reading can&#039;t cook a quiche or whatever, but that&#039;s not a basis for love and not why their spouse is married to them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, it&#8217;s amusing but (if you&#8217;re wanting to get into it, which I suppose people on the thread are) I notice the idea of L-O-V-E is missing. If you love someone, you look past  their defects or shortcomings. It&#8217;s not a game of one-upmanship.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure many of the men reading can&#8217;t cook a quiche or whatever, but that&#8217;s not a basis for love and not why their spouse is married to them.</p>
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		<title>By: hinamanu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101123</link>
		<dc:creator>hinamanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[French Homosexuals Join Demonstration Against Gay Marriage

NEW YORK, January 18 (C-FAM) Perhaps as many as a million people marched in Paris last Sunday and at French embassies around the world against proposed legislation that would legalize same-sex marriage in France.  One of the surprises in the French campaign for traditional marriage is that homosexuals have joined pro-family leaders and activists in the effort.

“The rights of children trump the right to children,” was the catchphrase of protesters like Jean Marc, a French mayor who is also homosexual.

http://www.c-fam.org/fridayfax/volume-15/french-homosexuals-join-demonstration-against-gay-marriage.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>French Homosexuals Join Demonstration Against Gay Marriage</p>
<p>NEW YORK, January 18 (C-FAM) Perhaps as many as a million people marched in Paris last Sunday and at French embassies around the world against proposed legislation that would legalize same-sex marriage in France.  One of the surprises in the French campaign for traditional marriage is that homosexuals have joined pro-family leaders and activists in the effort.</p>
<p>“The rights of children trump the right to children,” was the catchphrase of protesters like Jean Marc, a French mayor who is also homosexual.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.c-fam.org/fridayfax/volume-15/french-homosexuals-join-demonstration-against-gay-marriage.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.c-fam.org/fridayfax/volume-15/french-homosexuals-join-demonstration-against-gay-marriage.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: eszett</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101113</link>
		<dc:creator>eszett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think Harriet or Lucia got the joke. No surprises there either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Harriet or Lucia got the joke. No surprises there either.</p>
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		<title>By: Harriet</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101106</link>
		<dc:creator>Harriet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gay males only make an effort with their appearance so as to deflect their group image as sodomites, and only an ignorant woman would think any differant!  :cool:


And besides, what modern women that &#039;knows what they want&#039; would waste time with gays and their wannabees - the flaccid metrosexuals?

This video is a clear piss take of women, unless of course, gays really do have such a SHALLOW view of &#039;what real women really want&#039; !  :cool:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gay males only make an effort with their appearance so as to deflect their group image as sodomites, and only an ignorant woman would think any differant!  <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And besides, what modern women that &#8216;knows what they want&#8217; would waste time with gays and their wannabees &#8211; the flaccid metrosexuals?</p>
<p>This video is a clear piss take of women, unless of course, gays really do have such a SHALLOW view of &#8216;what real women really want&#8217; !  <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lucia Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101103</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucia Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They love going to the gym... so, who&#039;s going to be mowing the lawns and cleaning out the gutters and painting the house?

What about children, there gets to be a point where women want children.  Who wants to be having sex with a man who&#039;s been doing unspeakable things with other men? 

Then there&#039;s the clothing, what woman wants her husband spending all of the clothing budget on himself?

So they can make quiche, whoop de do.  Wonder if they can fix the car and the wifi.  Or is the girl going have to learn how to do that while he&#039;s cooking up a storm in the kitchen?

This YouTube really needs a companion video.  The Epic Rap Battle guys should get onto it.  The closest they&#039;ve got is &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EzDRpkfaO4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Epic Rap Battle of Manliness&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They love going to the gym&#8230; so, who&#8217;s going to be mowing the lawns and cleaning out the gutters and painting the house?</p>
<p>What about children, there gets to be a point where women want children.  Who wants to be having sex with a man who&#8217;s been doing unspeakable things with other men? </p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the clothing, what woman wants her husband spending all of the clothing budget on himself?</p>
<p>So they can make quiche, whoop de do.  Wonder if they can fix the car and the wifi.  Or is the girl going have to learn how to do that while he&#8217;s cooking up a storm in the kitchen?</p>
<p>This YouTube really needs a companion video.  The Epic Rap Battle guys should get onto it.  The closest they&#8217;ve got is <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EzDRpkfaO4" rel="nofollow">Epic Rap Battle of Manliness</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: eszett</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101093</link>
		<dc:creator>eszett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bbd, unique means they were not copied and pasted. It doesn&#039;t mean that they were 3000 different opinions. There might be a dozen or so different arguments on either side, if even that many.  

200 oral sibmissions are a lot. You cant seriously expect a select committee to hear 3000 submissions. 10 a day would make that process more than a year long and would add no value whatsoever. Especially because there are not 3000 different arguments out there. 

As I said, important is that those selected represent all the major viewpoints and arguments that have been presented in the written submissions. 

Do you think that you would have said anything that hasn&#039;t been already said multiple times?

I think you are just completely unreasonable and are throwing a hissyfit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bbd, unique means they were not copied and pasted. It doesn&#8217;t mean that they were 3000 different opinions. There might be a dozen or so different arguments on either side, if even that many.  </p>
<p>200 oral sibmissions are a lot. You cant seriously expect a select committee to hear 3000 submissions. 10 a day would make that process more than a year long and would add no value whatsoever. Especially because there are not 3000 different arguments out there. </p>
<p>As I said, important is that those selected represent all the major viewpoints and arguments that have been presented in the written submissions. </p>
<p>Do you think that you would have said anything that hasn&#8217;t been already said multiple times?</p>
<p>I think you are just completely unreasonable and are throwing a hissyfit.</p>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101088</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How many of those who made unique submissions asked for an appearance before the committee? 

I have made some, but not asked to present what they can read for themselves. The inter-active process only allows for questions, those can be covered in footnotes to a submission. Personal appearances are best for those directly impacted by the legislation, not those with an opinion who have taken the time to make a submission.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many of those who made unique submissions asked for an appearance before the committee? </p>
<p>I have made some, but not asked to present what they can read for themselves. The inter-active process only allows for questions, those can be covered in footnotes to a submission. Personal appearances are best for those directly impacted by the legislation, not those with an opinion who have taken the time to make a submission.</p>
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		<title>By: bringbackdemocracy</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101081</link>
		<dc:creator>bringbackdemocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[eszett
Nowhere did I suggest that no NewZealanders had been heard. I did however say that a Dutchman had been heard in preference to a large number of New Zealanders which is wrong.
The chair of the select committee said to parliament that they had received 21,533 submissions and almost 3,000 of these were UNIQUE, however only a little over 200 had been heard.
The committee hearing submissions on the paid parental leave bill which was introduced one month before the redefinition of marriage bill and does not report back to parliament until August 2013.
The select committee on marriage redefinition reports back at the end of February and they took a week off for Waitangi day!
Quite obviously they need more time so the people can be heard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eszett<br />
Nowhere did I suggest that no NewZealanders had been heard. I did however say that a Dutchman had been heard in preference to a large number of New Zealanders which is wrong.<br />
The chair of the select committee said to parliament that they had received 21,533 submissions and almost 3,000 of these were UNIQUE, however only a little over 200 had been heard.<br />
The committee hearing submissions on the paid parental leave bill which was introduced one month before the redefinition of marriage bill and does not report back to parliament until August 2013.<br />
The select committee on marriage redefinition reports back at the end of February and they took a week off for Waitangi day!<br />
Quite obviously they need more time so the people can be heard.</p>
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		<title>By: eszett</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101067</link>
		<dc:creator>eszett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;bringbackdemocracy (140) Says: 
February 22nd, 2013 at 8:52 am
eszett

New Zealanders, like myself have been denied the opportunity to present in person to the select committee and that is wrong, for both supporters and opponents of the bill.
The fact that a non-New Zealander was heard in preference to New Zealanders is also WRONG.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

bbd, your statement is just plain wrong. 
Some may have been denied the opportunity to speak in front of the committee, not surprising given the amount of submission it has drawn.

It doesn&#039;t mean that no New Zealanders have been heard. In fact, as I said more New Zealanders have spoken on this bill than on most other bills. 

It is pretty obvious that if too many people wish to speak in front of a committee, there has to be some selection proccess. 
More importantly is that all in the sample of the people that have spoken, the views expressed in the written submission are adequately reflected. Insofar there is nothing wrong that a non New Zealander has spoken at the committee.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>bringbackdemocracy (140) Says:<br />
February 22nd, 2013 at 8:52 am<br />
eszett</p>
<p>New Zealanders, like myself have been denied the opportunity to present in person to the select committee and that is wrong, for both supporters and opponents of the bill.<br />
The fact that a non-New Zealander was heard in preference to New Zealanders is also WRONG.
</p></blockquote>
<p>bbd, your statement is just plain wrong.<br />
Some may have been denied the opportunity to speak in front of the committee, not surprising given the amount of submission it has drawn.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t mean that no New Zealanders have been heard. In fact, as I said more New Zealanders have spoken on this bill than on most other bills. </p>
<p>It is pretty obvious that if too many people wish to speak in front of a committee, there has to be some selection proccess.<br />
More importantly is that all in the sample of the people that have spoken, the views expressed in the written submission are adequately reflected. Insofar there is nothing wrong that a non New Zealander has spoken at the committee.</p>
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		<title>By: eszett</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101062</link>
		<dc:creator>eszett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;nasska (5,712) Says: 
February 22nd, 2013 at 8:49 am
eszett

Okay, I accept that context is important but can you think of a situation where a straight could publicly poke fun at a homosexual without the poor dears screaming “homophobe” &amp; demanding the protection of some “human rights’ watchdog?

Because I can’t.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, you need to get out more, Nasska. 
Actually it happens all the time. Just watch some TV.

And btw, you are the one who is now stereotyping homosexuals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>nasska (5,712) Says:<br />
February 22nd, 2013 at 8:49 am<br />
eszett</p>
<p>Okay, I accept that context is important but can you think of a situation where a straight could publicly poke fun at a homosexual without the poor dears screaming “homophobe” &amp; demanding the protection of some “human rights’ watchdog?</p>
<p>Because I can’t.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, you need to get out more, Nasska.<br />
Actually it happens all the time. Just watch some TV.</p>
<p>And btw, you are the one who is now stereotyping homosexuals.</p>
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		<title>By: bringbackdemocracy</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101045</link>
		<dc:creator>bringbackdemocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[eszett

New Zealanders, like myself have been denied the opportunity to present in person to the select committee and that is wrong, for both supporters and opponents of the bill.
The fact that a non-New Zealander was heard in preference to New Zealanders is also WRONG.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eszett</p>
<p>New Zealanders, like myself have been denied the opportunity to present in person to the select committee and that is wrong, for both supporters and opponents of the bill.<br />
The fact that a non-New Zealander was heard in preference to New Zealanders is also WRONG.</p>
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		<title>By: nasska</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/another_reason_to_support_same_sex_marriage.html/comment-page-1#comment-1101042</link>
		<dc:creator>nasska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[eszett

Okay, I accept that context is important but can you think of a situation where a straight could publicly poke fun at a homosexual without the poor dears screaming &quot;homophobe&quot; &amp; demanding the protection of some &quot;human rights&#039; watchdog?

Because I can&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eszett</p>
<p>Okay, I accept that context is important but can you think of a situation where a straight could publicly poke fun at a homosexual without the poor dears screaming &#8220;homophobe&#8221; &amp; demanding the protection of some &#8220;human rights&#8217; watchdog?</p>
<p>Because I can&#8217;t.</p>
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