Bob Jones on coroners

February 20th, 2013 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

writes in the NZ Herald regard the saying coke should have warning labels:

We read this sort of coroner guff frequently following unusual deaths in which, not content to simply do their job and officially state the cause of death, they instead ignore the extreme oddity of the circumstances and ascribe them to the community at large.

A circus elephant escapes, runs amok and tramples someone to death and the coroner will urge that the government makes us all build elephant-proof fences. A 158kg woman rolls over in bed in a drunken stupor and crushes to death her ex-jockey husband. This actually happened in Tasmania in the late 1980s.

Coroner Crear presumably would urge the government to ban jockeys and other small males sleeping with fat women, or alternatively, that fat women have a warning sign tattooed on their buttocks. In short, coroners too often fail to recognise freak accidents as simply that, namely freak.

Heh, so true.

Older readers will remember George Wilder who delighted us all with his prison escapes. Who can forget his escape from a Taranaki prison when the army was called in from Waiouru to assist prison officers and police searching for him on the central plateau where he had been spotted. Because they occasionally ran across hikers, at day’s end the searchers were shown a photo of George. “That bugger was here all day in the search party”, they all shouted, but too late, George had slipped off into the night.

George wasn’t publicly perceived as a villain, rather he was viewed as an addiction victim for his obsession with taking cars, riding about in them for half an hour then leaving them unharmed. He simply couldn’t stop himself despite endless court warnings. Coroner Crear would doubtless blame the car manufacturers and Professor Sellman would want cars added to the addictive substances list.

Highly likely! They always blame the company.

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15 Responses to “Bob Jones on coroners”

  1. dime (10,215 comments) says:

    funny.

    its a shame that they have turned themselves into a joke. i just shut off when i hear a coroner recommendation now

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  2. 2boyz (273 comments) says:

    Personal responsibilty people!

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  3. OneTrack (3,372 comments) says:

    No way the government should have to formally respond to these stupid brain farts.

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  4. UglyTruth (4,554 comments) says:

    These brain farts are what drives the body politic. If you want to fix a problem that’s all well and good, but but nobody has a duty to help you make it happen.

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  5. pq (728 comments) says:

    I remember as a kid hearing about George Wilder, and we thought he was our own famous Ned Kelly, Billy the Kid,our very own wild hero,

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  6. KevinH (1,257 comments) says:

    Sir Bob is being plain silly with his remarks concerning Coroners, we ignore their advice at our peril, extrapolating that advice into a rampaging elephant analogy is plain nonsense.
    Increasingly Coroners have become the conscience of the nation, their findings have reverberated within the community at large and eventually results in legislation that counteracts the many difficult issues that Coroners are confronted with.
    Personally I welcome their professional opinions and may they continue to publicise the issues that plague us.

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  7. David Garrett (7,701 comments) says:

    Sir Bob tries far too hard to be amusing these days….his central point is well made, but he extrapolates to a silly degree…IMO…

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  8. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    KevinH

    We know you are a MP and we know you are a Green MP but surely not even the Green party wants to interfere in our lives as much as Coroners want to. ??????????????? Tell me it ain’t so Kev.

    Bob is right , the coroners job is to officially record the cause of death. What he does in fact is read information supplied to him by the police and the pathologist. Very very few sudden deaths go to inquest anyway and for many of them, the majority of whom are local lawyers it’s there five minutes in the local rag , so they feel obliged to react with over the top gravitas and nonsensical recommendations for a once in a millennium incident.

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  9. thedavincimode (6,890 comments) says:

    but surely not even the Green party wants to interfere in our lives as much as Coroners want to.

    eastbay, can you please just confirm that you actually said that and that your login hasn’t been hacked.

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  10. Johnboy (17,051 comments) says:

    Hard to believe that local lawyers like to pontificate with nonsensical gravitas!

    Well I never! :)

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  11. tropicana (79 comments) says:

    Disputes Tribunals are presided over by “Referees”.

    Coroners and Referees see themselves as brothers in arms, so to speak. Seems they get together once a year – in my city at least – to slap each other on the back and have a bit of a knees-up, which they unofficially refer to as having a CRAP (Coroners and Referees Annual Pissup).

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  12. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Sorry DVA, just got in from a long day, upper cut to self duly delivered and I will now concentrate on the cricket ,cheers

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  13. Harriet (5,201 comments) says:

    :….A circus elephant escapes, runs amok and tramples someone to death and the coroner will urge that the government makes us all build elephant-proof fences…”

    Elephants maybe…….but not camels……not this week anyway. :cool:

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  14. big bruv (14,224 comments) says:

    Sir Robert Jones is a national treasure.

    How I wish we had somebody half his age that was brave enough to state the blindingly obvious and stick two fingers in the air to the painfully politically correct wankers out there (Ali Mau being one of them)

    You may not like what he has to say sometimes but you cannot agrue that he is often wrong.

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  15. Tauhei Notts (1,687 comments) says:

    Big Bruv writes about the painfully politically correct wankers out there.
    In this morning’s NZ Herald there is one letter re Bob Jones published.
    You guessed it.
    It was from a painfully politically correct wanker.

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