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		<title>By: graham</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/general_debate_27_february_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1104401</link>
		<dc:creator>graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Left Right and Centre at 9:16 pm.

So, what you&#039;re effectively saying is, your nuts are in control of you (I&#039;m assuming you&#039;re a guy). Bugger those unimportant things like compatibility, talking about each other&#039;s feelings on politics, the world, the environment, the other person&#039;s interests, getting to know each other (unless it involves sex of course), commitment to each other, do we want children, y&#039;know, silly little things like that.

For you, it&#039;s all about the sex.

Hate to think what will happen when you and your partner get older, and the sexual drive goes, it&#039;s harder to keep the old fella interested, the boobs start sagging, and the magic&#039;s gone. If sex is all that&#039;s keeping you together, you&#039;re fucked. Or not, in this case.

I&#039;ve been married 19 years, LR&amp;C. I have Christian friends who didn&#039;t try before they bought who have been married 30, 40, 50 years and more. Maybe that&#039;s because we took the time to get to know more about our spouses before we got to the thought of &quot;Yeah, he/she&#039;s a great screw, that&#039;s enough for me!&quot;. And yeah, I know there are plenty of non-Christians who have been together that long too, which is great. Try asking them the secret to their long relationship. I&#039;m pretty damn willing to bet that the majority of them DON&#039;T say &quot;It&#039;s the sex!&quot; first, foremost and above all else.

By the way, depending on your view of abstinence, you do know there are other options, don&#039;t you? Ever heard of masturbation?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Left Right and Centre at 9:16 pm.</p>
<p>So, what you&#8217;re effectively saying is, your nuts are in control of you (I&#8217;m assuming you&#8217;re a guy). Bugger those unimportant things like compatibility, talking about each other&#8217;s feelings on politics, the world, the environment, the other person&#8217;s interests, getting to know each other (unless it involves sex of course), commitment to each other, do we want children, y&#8217;know, silly little things like that.</p>
<p>For you, it&#8217;s all about the sex.</p>
<p>Hate to think what will happen when you and your partner get older, and the sexual drive goes, it&#8217;s harder to keep the old fella interested, the boobs start sagging, and the magic&#8217;s gone. If sex is all that&#8217;s keeping you together, you&#8217;re fucked. Or not, in this case.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been married 19 years, LR&amp;C. I have Christian friends who didn&#8217;t try before they bought who have been married 30, 40, 50 years and more. Maybe that&#8217;s because we took the time to get to know more about our spouses before we got to the thought of &#8220;Yeah, he/she&#8217;s a great screw, that&#8217;s enough for me!&#8221;. And yeah, I know there are plenty of non-Christians who have been together that long too, which is great. Try asking them the secret to their long relationship. I&#8217;m pretty damn willing to bet that the majority of them DON&#8217;T say &#8220;It&#8217;s the sex!&#8221; first, foremost and above all else.</p>
<p>By the way, depending on your view of abstinence, you do know there are other options, don&#8217;t you? Ever heard of masturbation?</p>
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		<title>By: Nookin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nookin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Is there one KB user who gives a shit what she posts?&quot;

Her posts are singularly focused on self promotion and self agrandizement. If DPF sat down and really analysed what she is doing he would charge her advertising fees. She adds nothing whatsoever to any debate]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is there one KB user who gives a shit what she posts?&#8221;</p>
<p>Her posts are singularly focused on self promotion and self agrandizement. If DPF sat down and really analysed what she is doing he would charge her advertising fees. She adds nothing whatsoever to any debate</p>
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		<title>By: Nostradamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nostradamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Left Right and Centre:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Is there one KB user who gives a shit what she posts?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

She&#039;s just your average &lt;a href=&quot;http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-27022013/#comment-596754&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;copy-and-paste merchant&lt;/a&gt; - best ignored.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Left Right and Centre:</p>
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Is there one KB user who gives a shit what she posts?
</p></blockquote>
<p>She&#8217;s just your average <a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-27022013/#comment-596754" rel="nofollow">copy-and-paste merchant</a> &#8211; best ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: Left Right and Centre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Left Right and Centre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why does PB bother on KB? Is there one KB user who gives a shit what she posts? Why are some people such idiots that they can&#039;t see that they&#039;re effectively wasting their time?

She must have some kind of mental health issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does PB bother on KB? Is there one KB user who gives a shit what she posts? Why are some people such idiots that they can&#8217;t see that they&#8217;re effectively wasting their time?</p>
<p>She must have some kind of mental health issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Penny, I trust your overdue third rates instalment has now attracted a 10% penalty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penny, I trust your overdue third rates instalment has now attracted a 10% penalty.</p>
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		<title>By: publicwatchdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>publicwatchdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FYI Kiwibloggers! :)

 Speaking Rights at Public Forum, Governing Body meeting of Auckland Council, Thursday 28 February 2013 have been confirmed for Penny Bright, (and other &#039;anti-corruption whistle-blowers&#039;, Grace Haden,  Gary Osbourne, and Lisa Prager).

Time:         10.00am
Venue:       Council Chamber 
                   Manukau Civic Building 
                   31-33 Manukau Station Road 
                   Manukau
____________________________________________________________________________________________

(25 February 2013)

Good afternoon Penny
 
Your request to be heard in the Public Input section of the 28 February Governing Body meeting at Manukau has been accepted. You will be allocated five minutes in which to make your presentation.
 
Should you wish to distribute any material in support of your presentation, please provide 25 copies.
 
The Public Input section is at the beginning of the meeting so I would advise that you should be in attendance from 10.00am.
 
The Mayor&#039;s Office has noted reference in your request to variously the Serious Fraud Office or fraud. It would be appreciated if you do have concerns in this area to forward them to the relevant authorities via proper formal complaint processes.  The Mayor&#039;s Office cautions against making statements that impugn the reputation of individuals in a public forum.
 
Regards
 
Elaine Stephenson &#124; Democracy Advisor &#124;
Governance Support I Democracy Services 
Ph    09 301 0101 &#124; DDI 373 6328 &#124; Fax 09 301 0100
Auckland Council, Level 14, Civic Building, 
1 Greys Ave, Auckland 1142_

__________________________________________________________

http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/SiteCollectionDocuments/aboutcouncil/governingbody/governingbodyag20130228.pdf

 

Penny Bright&#039;s  subject matter will be: &quot;WHO IS RUNNING AUCKLAND COUNCIL?&quot;

This is, in my considered opinion, of SIGNIFICANT &#039;Public Interest&#039;, and needs to be dealt with by the Governing Body, because it appears that the Auckland Mayor and Councillors are NOT in control of Auckland Council.

As an &#039;Anti-corruption whistle-blower&#039; - I wish to raise directly with the Mayor and ALL Councillors:

1)  Their statutory duties arising from the NZ Bill of Rights Act 1990; the Local Government Act 2002, and the Local Government Official Information and Meetings Act 1987, regarding the lawful rights of citizens to directly communicate with their elected representatives.

2) I also wish to cover, not  only the lack of protection for &#039;whistle-blowing&#039; citizens and ratepayers, trying to raise alleged corrupt &#039;conflicts of interest directly with elected representatives, but the attempts by unelected Council staff to  &#039;block&#039; this information from getting directly  to elected representatives.

3) Given there is  evidence which confirms that the &#039;blocking&#039; / &#039;filtering&#039; of such information, has come directly from the &#039;the top&#039;,   I also wish to request a &#039;Special&#039; / &#039;Extraordinary&#039; meeting of the CEO Strategy Review Committee, where the actions and performance of the CEO of Auckland Council, Doug McKay are reviewed directly by the Mayor and Councillors, who, in my considered opinion, should request independent legal advice from competent, legal professionals who specialise in &#039;human rights&#039; law -  unlike - (  in my considered opinion),  the current General Counsel for Auckland Council).

4) For your information, I shall be requesting the attendance of representatives of the NZ Police and Serious Fraud Office (the &#039;lead agency&#039; dealing with alleged corruption) at this, and any subsequent meetings on this matter.

Kind regards,

Penny Bright

&#039;Anti-corruption campaigner&#039;.

http://www.occupyaucklandvsaucklandcouncilappeal.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/OCCUPY-AUCKLAND-APPEAL-APPLICATION-BY-APPELLANT-BRIGHT-TO-ADDUCE-NEW-EVIDENCE-pdf.pdf

(2013 Auckland Mayoral Candidate).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI Kiwibloggers! <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p> Speaking Rights at Public Forum, Governing Body meeting of Auckland Council, Thursday 28 February 2013 have been confirmed for Penny Bright, (and other &#8216;anti-corruption whistle-blowers&#8217;, Grace Haden,  Gary Osbourne, and Lisa Prager).</p>
<p>Time:         10.00am<br />
Venue:       Council Chamber<br />
                   Manukau Civic Building<br />
                   31-33 Manukau Station Road<br />
                   Manukau<br />
____________________________________________________________________________________________</p>
<p>(25 February 2013)</p>
<p>Good afternoon Penny</p>
<p>Your request to be heard in the Public Input section of the 28 February Governing Body meeting at Manukau has been accepted. You will be allocated five minutes in which to make your presentation.</p>
<p>Should you wish to distribute any material in support of your presentation, please provide 25 copies.</p>
<p>The Public Input section is at the beginning of the meeting so I would advise that you should be in attendance from 10.00am.</p>
<p>The Mayor&#8217;s Office has noted reference in your request to variously the Serious Fraud Office or fraud. It would be appreciated if you do have concerns in this area to forward them to the relevant authorities via proper formal complaint processes.  The Mayor&#8217;s Office cautions against making statements that impugn the reputation of individuals in a public forum.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Elaine Stephenson | Democracy Advisor |<br />
Governance Support I Democracy Services<br />
Ph    09 301 0101 | DDI 373 6328 | Fax 09 301 0100<br />
Auckland Council, Level 14, Civic Building,<br />
1 Greys Ave, Auckland 1142_</p>
<p>__________________________________________________________</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/SiteCollectionDocuments/aboutcouncil/governingbody/governingbodyag20130228.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/SiteCollectionDocuments/aboutcouncil/governingbody/governingbodyag20130228.pdf</a></p>
<p>Penny Bright&#8217;s  subject matter will be: &#8220;WHO IS RUNNING AUCKLAND COUNCIL?&#8221;</p>
<p>This is, in my considered opinion, of SIGNIFICANT &#8216;Public Interest&#8217;, and needs to be dealt with by the Governing Body, because it appears that the Auckland Mayor and Councillors are NOT in control of Auckland Council.</p>
<p>As an &#8216;Anti-corruption whistle-blower&#8217; &#8211; I wish to raise directly with the Mayor and ALL Councillors:</p>
<p>1)  Their statutory duties arising from the NZ Bill of Rights Act 1990; the Local Government Act 2002, and the Local Government Official Information and Meetings Act 1987, regarding the lawful rights of citizens to directly communicate with their elected representatives.</p>
<p>2) I also wish to cover, not  only the lack of protection for &#8216;whistle-blowing&#8217; citizens and ratepayers, trying to raise alleged corrupt &#8216;conflicts of interest directly with elected representatives, but the attempts by unelected Council staff to  &#8216;block&#8217; this information from getting directly  to elected representatives.</p>
<p>3) Given there is  evidence which confirms that the &#8216;blocking&#8217; / &#8216;filtering&#8217; of such information, has come directly from the &#8216;the top&#8217;,   I also wish to request a &#8216;Special&#8217; / &#8216;Extraordinary&#8217; meeting of the CEO Strategy Review Committee, where the actions and performance of the CEO of Auckland Council, Doug McKay are reviewed directly by the Mayor and Councillors, who, in my considered opinion, should request independent legal advice from competent, legal professionals who specialise in &#8216;human rights&#8217; law &#8211;  unlike &#8211; (  in my considered opinion),  the current General Counsel for Auckland Council).</p>
<p>4) For your information, I shall be requesting the attendance of representatives of the NZ Police and Serious Fraud Office (the &#8216;lead agency&#8217; dealing with alleged corruption) at this, and any subsequent meetings on this matter.</p>
<p>Kind regards,</p>
<p>Penny Bright</p>
<p>&#8216;Anti-corruption campaigner&#8217;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.occupyaucklandvsaucklandcouncilappeal.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/OCCUPY-AUCKLAND-APPEAL-APPLICATION-BY-APPELLANT-BRIGHT-TO-ADDUCE-NEW-EVIDENCE-pdf.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.occupyaucklandvsaucklandcouncilappeal.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/OCCUPY-AUCKLAND-APPEAL-APPLICATION-BY-APPELLANT-BRIGHT-TO-ADDUCE-NEW-EVIDENCE-pdf.pdf</a></p>
<p>(2013 Auckland Mayoral Candidate).</p>
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		<title>By: kowtow</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/general_debate_27_february_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1104346</link>
		<dc:creator>kowtow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;French couple&quot; , not.

Africans bringing slaves to France.

Who are we to judge ? Multiculturalism is a wonderful thing.

http://www.thelocal.fr/page/view/french-couple-pay-4500-for-african-slave-girl]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;French couple&#8221; , not.</p>
<p>Africans bringing slaves to France.</p>
<p>Who are we to judge ? Multiculturalism is a wonderful thing.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thelocal.fr/page/view/french-couple-pay-4500-for-african-slave-girl" rel="nofollow">http://www.thelocal.fr/page/view/french-couple-pay-4500-for-african-slave-girl</a></p>
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		<title>By: Left Right and Centre</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/general_debate_27_february_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1104324</link>
		<dc:creator>Left Right and Centre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[graham (1,690) 
February 27th, 2013 at 9:45 am 

Would you buy a car without first taking it for a test drive?

Try before you buy graham. Fuck it before you&#039;re stuck with it. 

Yeah... that&#039;s long time no sex if you take the abstinence option. Abstinence is so not cool my fingers can&#039;t type it properly. They just get tangled up spastic style. It would take me five minutes to get it right without the redline spell corrector. 

That&#039;s months or years without a decent full-on rogering session. I don&#039;t know how old you are but for the young crowd waiting for the Up n Go to pass through the straw into their mouth seems like a long time let alone screaming out to screw the object of your young lustful desire.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>graham (1,690)<br />
February 27th, 2013 at 9:45 am </p>
<p>Would you buy a car without first taking it for a test drive?</p>
<p>Try before you buy graham. Fuck it before you&#8217;re stuck with it. </p>
<p>Yeah&#8230; that&#8217;s long time no sex if you take the abstinence option. Abstinence is so not cool my fingers can&#8217;t type it properly. They just get tangled up spastic style. It would take me five minutes to get it right without the redline spell corrector. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s months or years without a decent full-on rogering session. I don&#8217;t know how old you are but for the young crowd waiting for the Up n Go to pass through the straw into their mouth seems like a long time let alone screaming out to screw the object of your young lustful desire.</p>
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		<title>By: Left Right and Centre</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/general_debate_27_february_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1104320</link>
		<dc:creator>Left Right and Centre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Camp Bellend Live-

Farmer in drought conditions.

Sob story. Farmer losing money from reduced milk. Not much water or grass for cows. 

Missing from story: Farmer balance sheet. Income, costs and profits over previous decades. Average net income over time.

I don&#039;t know whether to feel sorry for them or not. They might be filthy rich having creamed it during the &#039;good times&#039;. Who would know?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Camp Bellend Live-</p>
<p>Farmer in drought conditions.</p>
<p>Sob story. Farmer losing money from reduced milk. Not much water or grass for cows. </p>
<p>Missing from story: Farmer balance sheet. Income, costs and profits over previous decades. Average net income over time.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether to feel sorry for them or not. They might be filthy rich having creamed it during the &#8216;good times&#8217;. Who would know?</p>
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		<title>By: Judith</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/general_debate_27_february_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1104297</link>
		<dc:creator>Judith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;So, it’s likely your husband won’t be your “husband” any more or your wife your “wife”. &lt;/blockquote&gt; 


I read that out to him and he said &#039;great&#039;!

He was a bit disappointed when I told him that would only mean new names. He said he could think of a few!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So, it’s likely your husband won’t be your “husband” any more or your wife your “wife”. </p></blockquote>
<p>I read that out to him and he said &#8216;great&#8217;!</p>
<p>He was a bit disappointed when I told him that would only mean new names. He said he could think of a few!</p>
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		<title>By: nasska</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/general_debate_27_february_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1104294</link>
		<dc:creator>nasska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hint for the day......put up a poster of Oscar Pistorius in your bathroom.

It will stop your girlfriend complaining about you leaving the toilet seat up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hint for the day&#8230;&#8230;put up a poster of Oscar Pistorius in your bathroom.</p>
<p>It will stop your girlfriend complaining about you leaving the toilet seat up.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete George</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/general_debate_27_february_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1104282</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chauvels swipe at Whale Oil and Kiwiblog:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
In the case of the two better known right wing blogs those online sources are proxies for the present Government, and much copy is supplied to them directly out of ministers offices at taxpayers expense.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No mention of left wing blogs. Apart from the accusation that&#039;s very hypocritical in a speech about a lack of balance in media.

Full surrounding transcript and link to video: http://yournz.org/2013/02/27/chauvel-accuses-whale-and-kiwiblog/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chauvels swipe at Whale Oil and Kiwiblog:</p>
<blockquote><p>
In the case of the two better known right wing blogs those online sources are proxies for the present Government, and much copy is supplied to them directly out of ministers offices at taxpayers expense.
</p></blockquote>
<p>No mention of left wing blogs. Apart from the accusation that&#8217;s very hypocritical in a speech about a lack of balance in media.</p>
<p>Full surrounding transcript and link to video: <a href="http://yournz.org/2013/02/27/chauvel-accuses-whale-and-kiwiblog/" rel="nofollow">http://yournz.org/2013/02/27/chauvel-accuses-whale-and-kiwiblog/</a></p>
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		<title>By: krazykiwi</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/general_debate_27_february_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1104269</link>
		<dc:creator>krazykiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, well V2, Look at that. Forgiveness :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, well V2, Look at that. Forgiveness <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: krazykiwi</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/general_debate_27_february_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1104268</link>
		<dc:creator>krazykiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok financial boffins, check this out: &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/9895068/Bank-of-England-mulls-negative-interest-rates.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bank of England Mulls Negative Interest Rates&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. They&#039;re not even first. Denmark did this last year!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok financial boffins, check this out: <b><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/9895068/Bank-of-England-mulls-negative-interest-rates.html" rel="nofollow">Bank of England Mulls Negative Interest Rates</a></b>. They&#8217;re not even first. Denmark did this last year!</p>
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		<title>By: Viking2</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/general_debate_27_february_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1104267</link>
		<dc:creator>Viking2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jail for spending church funds on pokies

A disgraced Catholic priest jailed for slotting $150,000 of parish cash into pokie machines could still work for the church…
Crown prosecutor Marcus Zintl said it was ironic that Father Fitzmaurice was a man of faith, and the faith people had in him that was betrayed.

 Defence counsel Jonathan Eaton said the man who joined the seminary at 17 and became a priest at 23, could still work for the church he had devoted his life to.

While he could never work in Christchurch again, Mr Eaton said an &quot;olive branch&quot; had been extended by the Bishop of Auckland.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10868155]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jail for spending church funds on pokies</p>
<p>A disgraced Catholic priest jailed for slotting $150,000 of parish cash into pokie machines could still work for the church…<br />
Crown prosecutor Marcus Zintl said it was ironic that Father Fitzmaurice was a man of faith, and the faith people had in him that was betrayed.</p>
<p> Defence counsel Jonathan Eaton said the man who joined the seminary at 17 and became a priest at 23, could still work for the church he had devoted his life to.</p>
<p>While he could never work in Christchurch again, Mr Eaton said an &#8220;olive branch&#8221; had been extended by the Bishop of Auckland.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&#038;objectid=10868155" rel="nofollow">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&#038;objectid=10868155</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fletch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fletch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 05:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ps, someone has just pointed out that the wording of the same-sex marriage bill shows that it will also legalize adoption by a gay couple. They slipped that in under the radar didn&#039;t they?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps, someone has just pointed out that the wording of the same-sex marriage bill shows that it will also legalize adoption by a gay couple. They slipped that in under the radar didn&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: Fletch</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/general_debate_27_february_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1104251</link>
		<dc:creator>Fletch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 05:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Can you imagine what would happen if Obama left his wife, and married a man then?

Brimstone and fire for all of us, no doubt.&lt;/i&gt;

Not as far-fetched as it might seem, according to some members of the church that Obama used to attend.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
NEW YORK – Ten years ago, the New York Times reported on a growing underground subculture in the black community known as Down Low, comprised largely of men who secretly engage in homosexual activity while living “straight” lives in public.

It’s within that subtext that opposition researchers for Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign began investigating rumors that Rev. Jeremiah Wright was running a “matchmaking service” for members of his Trinity United Church of Christ known as the Down Low Club, which included Barack Obama.

Over the past several months, WND investigators have interviewed a number of members of the church who claim the president benefited from Wright’s efforts to help black men who engage in homosexual activity appear respectable in black society by finding them a wife.

The 2003 New York Times story, “Double Lives on the Down Low,” said that though many black men reject “a gay culture they perceive as white and effeminate,” they “have settled on a new identity, with its own vocabulary and customs and its own name: Down Low.”

The Times said that while “there are black men who are openly gay, it seems that the majority of those having sex with men still lead secret lives, products of a black culture that deems masculinity and fatherhood as a black man’s primary responsibility – and homosexuality as a white man’s perversion.”

The Down Low Club at Trinity “doesn’t have meetings, and it isn’t like the Rotary Club,” a source identified for this article as “Carolyn” explained to a WND investigator in Chicago.

“It was more that Wright served as a matchmaker,” said Carolyn, a 20-year member of Trinity who has played a role in church administration and knows the Obamas personally.

“He kept his eye on the young guys coming up in Trinity,” she said, “and if he spotted someone that acted or looked gay, then Wright would give them kind of a guidance counselor-type direction on how to keep down low – how to do the things they wanted to do, but then also getting married and looking ‘respectable’ – being part of black society.”

To Trinity insiders, the Down Low Club was simply known as “the program.”

“That’s the terminology. At Trinity, you’re urged to ‘get with the program,’” explained a male beneficiary of the Down Low Club. “What that means is it’s OK to go ahead and have sex with men, just as long as you ‘get with the program’ and marry a woman, somebody no straight guy would want to marry.”

The wife, the Down Low Club member explained, is “your ‘beard,’ your cover – so you can look like you’re living a straight life, even though you’re not.”

The male source was a “computer consultant” who claims not to know “scratch” about computers. But “getting with the program” at Trinity meant he could keep living a “gay” life and receive lots of computer consulting work thrown his way by Trinity, as long as he was willing to marry an unattractive woman who otherwise might have ended up a lonely spinster with no means to provide for living.

Carolyn explained that for many black families, attending Trinity was a way out of poverty.

“Trinity was a chance to network,” she said. “The stuff preached was hateful, but about 70 percent of those who go there ignore the radical rhetoric and just trying to get ahead.”

Carolyn said Trinity “helped a lot of blacks get successful and connected.”

“That’s what Wright did for Obama,” she claimed. “He connected Obama in the community, and he helped Obama hide his homosexuality.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/trinity-church-members-reveal-obama-shocker/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Can you imagine what would happen if Obama left his wife, and married a man then?</p>
<p>Brimstone and fire for all of us, no doubt.</i></p>
<p>Not as far-fetched as it might seem, according to some members of the church that Obama used to attend.</p>
<blockquote><p>
NEW YORK – Ten years ago, the New York Times reported on a growing underground subculture in the black community known as Down Low, comprised largely of men who secretly engage in homosexual activity while living “straight” lives in public.</p>
<p>It’s within that subtext that opposition researchers for Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign began investigating rumors that Rev. Jeremiah Wright was running a “matchmaking service” for members of his Trinity United Church of Christ known as the Down Low Club, which included Barack Obama.</p>
<p>Over the past several months, WND investigators have interviewed a number of members of the church who claim the president benefited from Wright’s efforts to help black men who engage in homosexual activity appear respectable in black society by finding them a wife.</p>
<p>The 2003 New York Times story, “Double Lives on the Down Low,” said that though many black men reject “a gay culture they perceive as white and effeminate,” they “have settled on a new identity, with its own vocabulary and customs and its own name: Down Low.”</p>
<p>The Times said that while “there are black men who are openly gay, it seems that the majority of those having sex with men still lead secret lives, products of a black culture that deems masculinity and fatherhood as a black man’s primary responsibility – and homosexuality as a white man’s perversion.”</p>
<p>The Down Low Club at Trinity “doesn’t have meetings, and it isn’t like the Rotary Club,” a source identified for this article as “Carolyn” explained to a WND investigator in Chicago.</p>
<p>“It was more that Wright served as a matchmaker,” said Carolyn, a 20-year member of Trinity who has played a role in church administration and knows the Obamas personally.</p>
<p>“He kept his eye on the young guys coming up in Trinity,” she said, “and if he spotted someone that acted or looked gay, then Wright would give them kind of a guidance counselor-type direction on how to keep down low – how to do the things they wanted to do, but then also getting married and looking ‘respectable’ – being part of black society.”</p>
<p>To Trinity insiders, the Down Low Club was simply known as “the program.”</p>
<p>“That’s the terminology. At Trinity, you’re urged to ‘get with the program,’” explained a male beneficiary of the Down Low Club. “What that means is it’s OK to go ahead and have sex with men, just as long as you ‘get with the program’ and marry a woman, somebody no straight guy would want to marry.”</p>
<p>The wife, the Down Low Club member explained, is “your ‘beard,’ your cover – so you can look like you’re living a straight life, even though you’re not.”</p>
<p>The male source was a “computer consultant” who claims not to know “scratch” about computers. But “getting with the program” at Trinity meant he could keep living a “gay” life and receive lots of computer consulting work thrown his way by Trinity, as long as he was willing to marry an unattractive woman who otherwise might have ended up a lonely spinster with no means to provide for living.</p>
<p>Carolyn explained that for many black families, attending Trinity was a way out of poverty.</p>
<p>“Trinity was a chance to network,” she said. “The stuff preached was hateful, but about 70 percent of those who go there ignore the radical rhetoric and just trying to get ahead.”</p>
<p>Carolyn said Trinity “helped a lot of blacks get successful and connected.”</p>
<p>“That’s what Wright did for Obama,” she claimed. “He connected Obama in the community, and he helped Obama hide his homosexuality.”</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/trinity-church-members-reveal-obama-shocker/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/trinity-church-members-reveal-obama-shocker/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lucia Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/general_debate_27_february_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1104246</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucia Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 05:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That certainly puts a whole new angle on parliamentary support for same-sex marriage, if it&#039;s true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That certainly puts a whole new angle on parliamentary support for same-sex marriage, if it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete George</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/general_debate_27_february_2013.html/comment-page-1#comment-1104239</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 04:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charles Chauvel&#039;s final speech in parliament includes a major diss of &quot;two right wing blogs&quot; who he alleges are fed from parliamentary offices at taxpayer expense. No mention of any left wing blogs though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles Chauvel&#8217;s final speech in parliament includes a major diss of &#8220;two right wing blogs&#8221; who he alleges are fed from parliamentary offices at taxpayer expense. No mention of any left wing blogs though.</p>
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		<title>By: Pauleastbay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pauleastbay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 04:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Judith (1,684) Says: 

February 27th, 2013 at 4:26 pm 
Great Whites 1 Humans 0

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8359135/Shark-attacks-and-kills-beachgoer

Pretty damn frightening stuff for those involved.
They say attacks are on the increase world wide – Why?&lt;/i&gt;

14 in New Zealand since 1937 I believe, not actually epidemic proportions when you look at the number of us that go for a swim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Judith (1,684) Says: </p>
<p>February 27th, 2013 at 4:26 pm<br />
Great Whites 1 Humans 0</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8359135/Shark-attacks-and-kills-beachgoer" rel="nofollow">http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8359135/Shark-attacks-and-kills-beachgoer</a></p>
<p>Pretty damn frightening stuff for those involved.<br />
They say attacks are on the increase world wide – Why?</i></p>
<p>14 in New Zealand since 1937 I believe, not actually epidemic proportions when you look at the number of us that go for a swim</p>
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