General Debate 2 February 2013

February 2nd, 2013 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. Manolo (12,617 comments) says:

    A vile religion and its peaceful followers: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_TURKEY_US_EXPLOSION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-02-01-07-18-16

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  2. big bruv (12,326 comments) says:

    Another vile religion and its shameful cover ups. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2013/02/2013214018279385.html

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  3. big bruv (12,326 comments) says:

    And again… http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/News/article.php?id=104544

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  4. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    Here manalulu is a nice comic for you to wank over
    Its all about al whatshisname so it will get you panting with lust :lol:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/climate-fail-files/the-gore-a-thon-on-wuwt/

    enjoy

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  5. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    Manolo

    Were you this vigilant when it came to terrorist bombings in Northern Ireland?

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  6. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Al Quaeda has announced plans for attacks all over the US and Europe.

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  7. Keeping Stock (9,788 comments) says:

    Bugger – Cory Jane looks as though he’s out for the season with a ruptured knee ligament; not the news that Hurricanes supporters wanted to hear…

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2013/02/bugger.html

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  8. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    Your bomber killed himself and another Turk

    I wonder how many virgins you get if you blow your self and one fellow Muslim up?

    Do you get 70 das ClarkenFührer’s?

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  9. Pete George (21,798 comments) says:

    Not on Imperator Fish, not on Dim-Post, but doesn’t this look like a classic Shearer Parody?

    And proving that left still has something, some black humour, and some is even intentional. What’s dragons and Harry Potter got to do with Labour? They have some funny fantasies.

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  10. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/record-number-kiwis-leaving-australia-5331117
    “Over 1000 Kiwis are packing their bags and leaving for Australia every week, statistics shows.”

    How many are transient citizens that once having NZ papers use them to get into Australia?

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  11. Manolo (12,617 comments) says:

    Were you this vigilant when it came to terrorist bombings in Northern Ireland?

    Yes.

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  12. Reid (15,507 comments) says:

    A vile religion and its peaceful followers:

    As usual some who’ve been blinded with propaganda immediately leap to an erroneous conclusion

    Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said police believe the bomber was connected to a domestic leftist militant group…

    The state-run Anadolu Agency identified the bomber as Ecevit Sanli. It said the 40-year-old Turkish man was a member of the outlawed Revolutionary People’s Liberation Party-Front, or DHKP-C, which has claimed responsibility for assassinations and bombings since the 1970s.

    James F. Jeffrey, a visiting fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy who was U.S. ambassador in Turkey between 2008 and 2010, said DHKP-C was a resilient group that had been “relatively quiescent” in recent years. He said the organization was born out of the 1970s European tradition of pro-communist terrorism, and he drew a parallel with Germany’s now-defunct Baader-Meinhof gang.

    Notice it’s a leftist political group, not a religious group. But the truth has never mattered to the braying fools who are hell-bent on leading the world into a Muslim-Christian conflict. That’s the thing about propaganda, it makes people react based on their prejudices which said propaganda has propagated, regardless of what the reality is. The upshot being that such people react in precisely the same way that US rednecks from the deep South reacted back in the 1930′s when they saw a black person. But of course such people don’t imagine that they’re prejudging things in precisely the same way, no, not at all. Because the other thing about propaganda is that it fools the braying idiots into believing that they’re merely calling it like it is and that their view is the simple truth of the matter.

    It’s rather sad there are so very many braying fools around in all sorts of areas but that’s just a result of the ubiquity of the propaganda today. But the propaganda in this area – terrorism – is particularly dangerous because it’s designed for one thing and one thing only. War.

    Congratulations you braying fools. Your grandchildren are going to look back at you and wonder how the fuck you were so fucking stupid, when it was so obvious what was really going on, just as it was obvious what was going on in Germany in the 30′s, if you only had eyes.

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  13. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    Manolo

    So, does this mean that you would refer to Christianity as a vile religion with “peaceful followers”? That doesn’t seem particularly fair to me.

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  14. kowtow (6,690 comments) says:

    Why the west was lost.

    Manolo posts about Muslim terrorism and the response is two diversionary attacks referencing totally unrelated matters.

    And it’s not as if Asia Minor is insignificant. EU leaders want it to be a member ,while citizens don’t.70 million dirt poor Muslim Turks.

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  15. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    Why the west was lost.

    Why kowtow is not very intelligent:

    Manolo posts about Muslim terrorism and the response is two diversionary attacks referencing totally unrelated matters.

    [not my red karma BTW]

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  16. Viking2 (10,702 comments) says:

    “The fact National is relying on the Canterbury re-build to rescue our economy shows it has no ideas for growth,” says Shearer.

    Meanwhile:

    Hamilton is enjoying a billion-dollar development boom with construction companies reporting huge work programmes for this year that are likely to spread economic benefits around the city.

    The Waikato Times has identified nearly 30 big commercial construction projects under way or being considered, with several new central city mid-rise office towers, retail and hotel developments edging closer to construction.
    Hamilton is enjoying a billion-dollar development boom with construction companies reporting huge work programmes for this year that are likely to spread economic benefits around the city.The Waikato Times has identified nearly 30 big commercial construction projects under way or being considered, with several new central city mid-rise office towers, retail and hotel developments edging closer to construction.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/8254138/Citys-billion-dollar-building-boom

    And Tauranga is doing the same. More new buildings and more new houses.

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  17. kowtow (6,690 comments) says:

    dawinci,don’t like it up ya ? go have a cry ,along with big blouse the bigot.

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  18. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    V2

    It is hardly surprising that Shearer would say that without remembering that it was the Christchurch earthquakes that resulted in the $30billion dent in our economy. Is further evidence required that Shearer is an out and out fuckwit?

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  19. thedavincimode (6,102 comments) says:

    dawinci,don’t like it up ya

    No doubt about it kowtow; you really stuck it to me – twice in a row in fact.

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  20. Longknives (4,039 comments) says:

    This talentless bint is still defending Lip Synching the biggest gig of her career…

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/8251919/Beyonce-defends-lip-syncing

    Apparently syncing with a backing track is ‘commonplace in the music industry’ and ‘everyone does it’, I’ve seen gigs around the World from artists ranging from AC/DC to ZZ Top, not once have I seen any lip syncing…maybe it is ‘commonplace’ in the talentless circles that Beyonce moves in?

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  21. kowtow (6,690 comments) says:

    The All American President………yeah right.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/9838625/Barack-Obamas-uncle-to-face-deportation-hearing.html

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  22. kowtow (6,690 comments) says:

    dawinci says” that doesn’t seem particularly fair to me”

    But he’s not interested in fair. Along with big blouse and a few others here he’s only interested in anti Catholic bigotry.To the extent he will question the motivation of manolo highlighting Muslim terrorism.

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  23. Longknives (4,039 comments) says:

    Kowtow- Isn’t it amazing how deathly quiet the mainstream media is about The Messiah’s embarrassing old ‘Uncle Onyango’??
    Considering how they dredged every piece of dirt imaginable (and even made some up), about the family of Sarah Palin….

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  24. Redbaiter (6,464 comments) says:

    Sweden has reduced public spending as a proportion of GDP from 67% in 1993 to 49% today. It could soon have a smaller state than Britain. It has also cut the top marginal tax rate by 27 percentage points since 1983, to 57%, and scrapped a mare’s nest of taxes on property, gifts, wealth and inheritance. This year it is cutting the corporate-tax rate from 26.3% to 22%.

    Sweden has also donned the golden straitjacket of fiscal orthodoxy with its pledge to produce a fiscal surplus over the economic cycle. Its public debt fell from 70% of GDP in 1993 to 37% in 2010, and its budget moved from an 11% deficit to a surplus of 0.3% over the same period. This allowed a country with a small, open economy to recover quickly from the financial storm of 2007-08. Sweden has also put its pension system on a sound foundation, replacing a defined-benefit system with a defined-contribution one and making automatic adjustments for longer life expectancy.

    Most daringly, it has introduced a universal system of school vouchers and invited private schools to compete with public ones. Private companies also vie with each other to provide state-funded health services and care for the elderly. Anders Aslund, a Swedish economist who lives in America, hopes that Sweden is pioneering “a new conservative model”; Brian Palmer, an American anthropologist who lives in Sweden, worries that it is turning into “the United States of Swedeamerica”.

    Why are the Nordic countries doing this? The obvious answer is that they have reached the limits of big government. “The welfare state we have is excellent in most ways,” says Gunnar Viby Mogensen, a Danish historian. “We only have this little problem. We can’t afford it.”

    Time to get rid of all the bludging non producers on the government payroll right Thedavaselinemode?

    http://www.economist.com/news/special-report/21570840-nordic-countries-are-reinventing-their-model-capitalism-says-adrian

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  25. Redbaiter (6,464 comments) says:

    “along with big blouse and a few others here he’s only interested in anti Catholic bigotry.”

    Anti Christian bigotry really. They’re just doing their best for their good buddy Karl Marx, who hated Christianity because it was incompatible with Marxism.

    Marx also wanted to weaken opposition to Marxism by dividing the forces opposed, and like so many of the lame ignorant commies that proliferate on Kiwiblog, and in their confusion claim to represent the right, Bigot Bruv and Thedavaselinemode do their bit there too.

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  26. Left Right and Centre (2,388 comments) says:

    KS-

    I think Cory Jane is brilliant. With or without him the Canes make up the numbers and that’s it though.

    Caketin is missing a key ingredient- spectators. Same for all franchises in NZ. Dumb as it might sound…. in theory at least… shouldn’t games fill venues to capacity? I remember a Hurricanes vs Crusaders round robin match at the Roundhouse that sold out… awesome.

    Here’s a question….. could you fill the Donut even if it was free entry? What about a flat $5/ seat? Obviously that’s a hypothetical scenario… I’m just saying…

    Will Chiefs go back to back?

    And let’s not forget… it’s the longest title drought in franchise history for the Crusaders… four seasons and counting…..

    If Sir Depression somehow steers the Blues to title no. four, what honour comes next after being knighted?

    And is it just me or are the northern hemisphere players…. especially English…. man-monsters physically compared to kiwi players now? Shit… they make Ma’a Nonu and Sonny Bill look like just two more players now.

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  27. Left Right and Centre (2,388 comments) says:

    You can take my blind green vote for Redbaiter out of my cold dead mouse-clicking hand.

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  28. Reid (15,507 comments) says:

    This is one small example of how people like Manolo are transformed from being critical thinkers into braying fools. And it all happens under their radar, they don’t even know it’s been happening. How stupid can you be.

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  29. Manolo (12,617 comments) says:

    Thank you, Reid. I’m deeply moved by the compliment.

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  30. Reid (15,507 comments) says:

    It’s never too late to change Manolo. Being a braying fool isn’t mandatory…

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  31. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Here is an interesting statistic to conjure with.

    1 in 20 homosexual men in the UK are now riddled with Aids.
    Rising to 1 in 12 in London

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2271468/Risky-sexual-behaviour-blame-NO-drop-HIV-gay-bisexual-men-decade.html#axzz2JgWmjiiZ

    Wonder what the rate is in say, Grey Lynn in Auckland ?

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  32. Left Right and Centre (2,388 comments) says:

    Hey… talking of Gareth Morgan hating the SPCA….

    I love cats…. had a stray hanging off my cat’s food bowl. Years back now.

    Rang the good ol SPC of A. Can I drop this bugger off there? You sure can pal… for the bargain service fee of something fuckin stupid that I had no intention of paying like $150. To get it fixed and have shots etc. How about…. $0 I’m thinking?

    Are these people insane? It’s a stray… that’s got nothing to do with me. Dicks.

    I grabbed the stray and we went for a ‘ride’ to a ‘nice suburb’ and the stray jumped out of the car window. The cost of the petrol only. Negligible.

    Gareth… you can’t have a speaking voice like Worzel Gummidge if he had a dire cold and his hand on a live electric fence *and* come across as a ludicrous looney-tunes lunatic loop de loop lollygagging loolapalooza loser. It’s just too much mate.

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  33. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    We dislike Christianity because its incompatible with reality not because of Marx reedy.

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  34. Left Right and Centre (2,388 comments) says:

    Conversation with young 7s bloke in nightclub…..

    Me: Make sure you keep that body up when you get older, don’t let it turn to shit mate…
    Him: Yeah…no way, no way…
    Him: Let’s get some older women, you and me, you and me bro…
    Me: How old is old do you reckon?
    Him: *stops to think about it*….. mmmmm…… 30?
    Me: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Him: How old are you?
    Me: Let’s not go there….
    Me: That’s still too young mate… they’re still fucked in the head at 30!!
    Him: Ah yeah… well I’m 19…..

    He seemed like a decent dude. Bad breath. Rotorua bad.

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  35. big bruv (12,326 comments) says:

    bereal

    How many Gay All Blacks have aids?

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  36. Reid (15,507 comments) says:

    We dislike Christianity because its incompatible with reality not because of Marx reedy.

    It’s funny Griff (but not in a humorous way) how most people who “dislike Christianity” don’t even know what it really is. They think they know, but they don’t. Most of them seem to have some hallucination they’ve developed over the years which makes them think it’s some kind of strict self-righteous judgemental doctrine whereas it is in fact nothing of the kind. But Satan isn’t called the Deceiver and the Slanderer for nothing, and he does quite well at pulling the wool over all sorts of eyes. It’s precisely the same mechanism that is being used in the bogus ‘war on terror’ which aims to make braying fools think that all Muslims are terrorists but on a different scale and on a different timeline.

    And Marx does in fact have a lot to do with it. It wasn’t for nothing that the Russian commies banned the Russian Orthodox church and the fact is, we’re living today in the West, in societies that have a lot in common with communist doctrine. Of course it’s not as blatant as placing an official ban on religion, and people point to the vote as “evidence” that it’s not communist driven, but you look at for example the strength and longevity of the political correctness bandwagon, the design of society where most families require two incomes merely to stay afloat, the fact that young girls are taught by communists feminists that they have to think and act like men and suppress their feminine instincts, and the wise observer recognises the signs. Of course, most don’t recognise the signs for what they really are, most think they’re simply a natural result of sophisticated modern society and there’s nothing “designed” about it at all, it’s all just random events. But again, that’s Satan operating with his Deception hat on.

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  37. RRM (8,988 comments) says:

    I can’t believe I have only just discovered this :-D

    Artichokes – Waiwhakamukau

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  38. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    big bruv

    How many in Rainbow Labour ?

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  39. Paulus (2,292 comments) says:

    The comment re NZ Citizenship as an avenue to Australia is known to me employing a woman of Cape Coloured South African family.
    Good hard working. Hard working childreen. Husband finished an MBA here, but felt not really wanted.
    They told me that they only wanted to get to Australia, as MBA better understood.

    Ultimate goal I found was actually USA. Also it was easier to get to Canada from Australia, than from New Zealand.

    Canada first, thence to USA, where family now ensconced. Took some years but that’s what they wanted.

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  40. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    You lost me Reid when you referenced the anti god in your argument.

    As Christianity teachers god is responsible for all it follows that god is responsible for the creation of the devil.

    This means that the evil in Satan is the creation of god.

    Hence god IS evil.

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  41. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    I have worked with a number of immigrants and refugees that have consciously used New Zealand as a stepping stone to Aussie.

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  42. Fletch (5,719 comments) says:

    Oh dear. Obama has nominated this guy as the new Secretary of Defense….
    He doesn’t even know the stance of the U.S on issues.

    “If I could go back I would.. and change the words, and the meaning”

    And Lindsey Graham hammers him on some of his previous anti-Jewish statements, which he now has nothing to back them up with.

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  43. kowtow (6,690 comments) says:

    griff

    You are a fundamentalist atheist,ergo as bad as the fundamentalist Christians you love to hate . Or just plain thick. Or both.

    longknives .
    http://www.torontosun.com/2011/09/02/the-great-obama-cover-up

    Ezra did this on you tube and the delivery was exellent. Sorry can’t find the link anymore.

    Red .yes they are anti Christian. But there’s a cabal here who take particular delight in anti Catholicism.

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  44. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    Thanks for pointing out how thick I am kow tow
    Can you counter my argument?
    Is not god the supreme being?
    Does good and evil predate god?
    If so how does that impact your philosophy?
    After all, I am so thick I like to see proof of assertions….

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  45. Pete George (21,798 comments) says:

    If we get a Green led or Green fed government we may be all be able to choose whetehr we have to work or not.

    High time to stop fucking around and introduce a universal social wage that people can freely choose to live on. An income we can augment by taking up worthwhile work if we want to.

    Universal social wage and choose to work? That will result in a Green bled country.

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  46. Reid (15,507 comments) says:

    As Christianity teachers god is responsible for all it follows that god is responsible for the creation of the devil.

    This means that the evil in Satan is the creation of god.

    Hence god IS evil.

    Griff God in His wisdom has decided to allow evil as a choice. Who knows why that is, but that is how it is. My own hypothesis is that He allows evil to exist by giving us the choice to commit it or not, because making the correct choices as we move through life builds spiritual muscle and we are all on this Earth because it’s a school because we are all on an evolutionary path as spiritual, not physical beings. It is not our physical bodies that make a good or bad choice, it’s our spiritual component which manifests itself in our thoughts which then makes us make the choice. If there was no choice because evil didn’t exist we wouldn’t grow, but our ultimate goal is to achieve a state of spiritual enlightenment such that we voluntarily abandon evil. The essential thing to know is that we are not physical beings with a spiritual component, we are spiritual beings having a temporary physical experience.

    Dec 21, 2012 was the beginning of a new shift of consciousness towards this state of being. You wouldn’t think it to look at the world, would you, but that’s what it was, cosmologically. Bearing in mind we’re talking multi-thousand-year timescales, it’s possible this could be. But at the moment there is so much evil in the world precisely because we are entering the ultimate showdown.

    If you look at what the US has become since the bogus ‘war on terror’ was launched, what with its police state-apparatus. (For example I heard a guy from the US on the radio yesterday saying it would have been good if they’d hired TSA guards who knew how to handle people and he suggested a person with 2 years military or 3-years training would be an appropriate measure, he said. But what they’ve actually gone and done he said, is they’ve gone and hired extremely low-level pretty stupid and arrogant people, instead. Now it occurs to me, if you were the head of the TSA, and you really did only want to do what they say their function is, why the fuck would you hire an entire workforce of guards with those powers who had those traits? I mean where is the upside in getting huge numbers of people like that, unless you wanted to use them as an easily manipulatable group of people, at some later point?)

    If you look at stuff like that and there’s a lot more, like the NDAA that allows rendition and torture and life in prison without trial for you and me, as well as Americans, when you look at stuff like that, and ask yourself the same question I asked of the TSA head, you get the same answer: i.e. where precisely is our world heading? And the only answer you can come up with based on geopolitical behaviour over the last say ten-fifteen, twenty years, is a global war. Between Muslims and Christians and also between China-Russia vs the US. It will pit both Australia and ourselves against the large Muslim SE Asian countries and it will pit the US, UK, Canada, possibly South America although she may stay out of it, against China, Russia and the ME Muslim nations. All sides will use nukes early on, too. And biologicals will almost certainly be used.

    All of this is of course monstrous evil. Isn’t it. Yet that’s precisely the road humanity is currently on, and so far the plan is proceeding apace with no sign of recognition from anyone except those in the govts of all the main protagonists, and they’re not saying a thing about it.

    A tell on the non-military, regime-change side is the current repatriation of everyone’s gold reserves to inside their home borders. Sure if that was the only thing that was happening and nothing else was happening in other arenas, you could say that’s just a reflection of current economic lack of confidence and I agree that does explain it. What I look at however is connections to dots in other arenas. That’s when the pictures start to merge.

    Now if this is not by design, and it’s all just a series of random coincidences with no patterns whatsoever, then it’s an amazingly coherent coalescing of various strands into a rope, isn’t it. I mean the world condition is reality, it’s what has happened, so you can’t pretend it doesn’t exist, although at least half of us try to (lefties). And what I said is possible, isn’t it. It may not be true and I can’t prove it since I’m not allowed to hack into the NSA and get the evidence, I don’t want to get renditioned under the NDAA, you see. But it’s a possible explanation, isn’t it.

    That being the case and exploring further as a hypothesis, to me it’s evident there’s probably some intelligence behind this, it can’t possibly be just random coincidence, it’s got too many moving parts all driving in the same direction over the course of decades. The question therefore becomes, who is it.

    To me the ultimate answer is Satan, the Deceiver and the Slanderer. This explains why his human minions are heavily into Satanic worship. Apparently the most senior minions look down on the Satanists but it’s said the Rothschilds have their very own coven and AFAIK they’re one of the most senior families. But who knows. However when you give yourself over to the faith of God through voluntary surrender (remember the choice we make?) to His justice and love which we receive not because we deserve it but through God’s grace, you quickly realise that this world has dimensions in addition to the one which forms and informs our physical reality.

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  47. krazykiwi (9,188 comments) says:

    Who says adherents of Islam lack innovation: Iran unveils finger amputating machine for use on thieves.

    It looks to be portable, for great entertainment in towns and villages right across Iran.

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  48. Manolo (12,617 comments) says:

    For Griff, Al Gore’s #1 fan:
    http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/02/01/report-show-un-admitting-solar-activity-may-play-significant-role-in-global/

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  49. wat dabney (3,429 comments) says:

    Who says adherents of Islam lack innovation

    I do.

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  50. Reid (15,507 comments) says:

    Saturday arvo viewing: Great Ships: The Frigates

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  51. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    BB

    there’s no way bereal will tolerate any All Blacks being gay mate, that means they’d hate new Zealand and you can’t have that.

    I will now await something meaningful from that him like ‘go and kill yourself’ or something equally deep like we used to hear on the play ground when we were 8.

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  52. krazykiwi (9,188 comments) says:

    Gillard has lost two senior ministers.

    While Chris Evans’ departure, after eight years as Labor’s Senate leader, was relatively easy to manage, Nicola Roxon’s decision to quit after just 12 months as the country’s first female Attorney-General is a body blow to Gillard.

    Not only is she one of the government’s most articulate, appealing and able ministers, she has been one of the prime minister’s staunchest and most effective supporters.

    Ouch!

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  53. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    i reproduced that article from the Daily Mail because i was suprised and shocked that 1 in 20
    homo males in the UK were riddled with aids. (1 in 12 in London)

    Now i find that at least 1 in 20 homos in New Zealand are also riddled with aids.
    That’s according to international figures and the NZ aids foundation.
    That is not just homos that don’t practice ‘safe sex’ thats 1 in 20 male homos across the board.

    Why are such shocking statistics supressed in NZ ?

    How much does it cost national health to treat all these aids patients in NZ ?

    Does the average homo realise that they have such a high risk of catching aids ?

    If these statistics were widely reported maybe it would encourage some youngsters to think twice
    before ….

    Also, as usual the resident moron Pauleastbay rises to the occaison with a puerile comment.
    Well done Paul, you can always be relied on to post something stupid. Idiot.

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  54. bhudson (4,720 comments) says:

    @bereal,

    Really? So at least 95% of gay men in NZ are not ‘hell bound homos, cursed by god’ then?

    Well that’s telling…

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  55. big bruv (12,326 comments) says:

    bereal is about to go into depression. The NZ team got beaten by Kenya at the 7′s.

    Not that anybody inside the stadium cares…

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  56. nasska (9,479 comments) says:

    Quick survey…do you think there’s too much rugby on TV?

    Jiggle your tits for YES or scratch your nuts for NO.

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  57. Steve (North Shore) (4,317 comments) says:

    Thanks nasska, you almost made the beer come out my nose, but I controlled it by falling sideways

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  58. nasska (9,479 comments) says:

    Looking your best.

    Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/aofgtib6jrk7dze/Shave.jpg

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  59. bhudson (4,720 comments) says:

    @nasska,

    “Quick survey”

    It is a matter of great depression that I was able to answer YES

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  60. Rodders (1,790 comments) says:

    nasska :D

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  61. cha (3,527 comments) says:

    Gotta be a candidate in this years awards.

    http://www2.tbo.com/news/pinellas-news/2013/jan/10/st-pete-man-18-dies-after-accidentally-shooting-se-ar-603022/

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  62. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    OK NZ might not win the Sevens.
    Good on Crowley and kudos to Taranaki for producing him but, other than big bruv who gives a fuck ?

    Seriously folks.
    If at least 1 in 20 male homos in NZ is riddled with aids.
    (and that figure is not disputed by the NZ aids foundation.)

    And manypeople are unaware of this fact, and

    i for one had no idea untill today, probably due to the power of the homo lobby, some of whom acknowledge,
    obtain their ultimate satisfaction from corrupting a youth.

    Would it not be a good idea to publish that fact in order that our youngsters (some who may be weak)
    are able to make an informed choice wether or not to bend over ?

    What is the reason that this alarming fact (1 in 20 are riddled with aids) is supressed in NZ ?

    Who benefits from keeping this info quiet ?

    Not your son Pauleastbay. You idiot.
    Or you bhudson. (i thought you had more about you)

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  63. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    Beryl we were disusing the interesting question. Do one in twenty all blacks have aids?
    I note your reference to bend over, is this in fond memory of your youthful exploits in the changing rooms. I am sure you delighted in the boys showering together after getting hot and sweaty in the rucks and scrums with your team of ball players.

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  64. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    What the fuck were you disusing Griff and with who, you fuckwit ?

    before today were you aware that 1 in 20 homos in NZ were riddled with aids ?

    Do you care about that ?

    Maybe your son would be interested to know that fact.

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  65. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    Can you not keep up teach?

    big bruv (11,006) Says:
    February 2nd, 2013 at 11:06 am

    That one in twenty all blacks have aids
    Thank you for that beryl

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  66. Longknives (4,039 comments) says:

    First England destroy the allegedly ‘invincible’ All Blacks at Twickenham and then they win the sevens at Wellington- That must just burn the die hard one-eyed All Black supporters….

    Oh by the way, I don’t think rugby is a very big deal in Kenya. Maybe a bit less time practicing your tongue-poking hakas and a bit of footy practice eh lads?

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  67. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    just so we can all keep up.

    Two questions.

    Is it true that 1 in 20 male homosexuals in New Zealand are riddled with aids ?

    If so, is that an issue ?

    Another couple of questions.

    If it is true, why should it be kept secret ? and,

    Who would stand to gain by keeping it a secret ?

    Simple questions.
    Maybe bhudson or Griff can have a try at an answer
    for each or either.

    Don’t hold your breath waiting.

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  68. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    If either Griff or bhudson are too tired or too emotional to answer tonight
    i will fill them in tomorrow.

    Watch this space girls.

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  69. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    I can tell you now beryl that it would be a cold day in hell before I would ever let you “fill me in”.
    Just because it went on in the showers of your youth does not mean that I am going to play your filthy game.

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  70. Left Right and Centre (2,388 comments) says:

    7s rugby is bullshit running around like chooks with no head.

    If you wanted to have predictable winners make it 10 a side. Kenya wouldn’t get near a final.

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  71. Manolo (12,617 comments) says:

    A good article: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/terminal-dimmitude_699166.html

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