General Debate 5 February 2013

February 5th, 2013 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
Tags:

137 Responses to “General Debate 5 February 2013”

  1. Colville (1,780 comments) says:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/8262417/China-plans-210m-Waikato-milk-plant

    We need more of this.

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  2. iMP (2,154 comments) says:

    Richard III has been found parked under a carpark. 500 year mystery solved.

    Vote: Thumb up 8 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  3. graham (2,211 comments) says:

    The politics of envy is alive and well within the Mana Party.

    John Minto posted last week an article entitled “The feral rich – how can we help them?”, taking aim well and truly at the richest people (and in a previous article he makes it very clear that this includes John Key). He has basically taken an article from “New Internationalist” magazine, whatever the hell that is, which identifies these “undeserving rich” as a menace to the community and suggests 10 ways we could help them. Among the highlights are:

    - Gang culture – break up their vicious criminal gangs (our Business Roundtable?…) by arresting their ringleaders and locking them up.
    - Parenting – provide parenting classes to teach social values and respect for others that they can pass on to their children (a good idea in general, but is he seriously suggesting that only the rich are in need of this???)
    - Housing – move them out of their overvalued ghettos in the centres of the world’s capitals. Turn over the properties that they own, but barely occupy, to public use and social housing.
    - Crime and rehab – crack down on repeated climate crime offenders by confiscating their luxury cars and private jets. Rehabilitate persistent offenders by teaching them how to walk and use public transport.
    - Employment – wean the workshy off the benefits of unearned profits. Break trust fund dependence. Get underserving recipients on to work experience schemes.
    - Profligacy – target contraception towards problem families with morbidly obese carbon footprints fuelled by irresponsible lifestyles.

    The really scary part comes at the end:

    This is useful advice also for us to help the 150 richest New Zealanders (which includes Prime Minister John Key) who had an increase in wealth of $7 billion in 2010.

    Any starters?

    Um … excuse me? Did I read that right? Do we seriously have the vice president of a political party of New Zealand attempting to incite an illegal uprising, having gangs of thugs going around arresting anybody who happens to be “richer” than they consider appropriate for the crime of being a business leader, confiscating their property, and randomly evicting them from their houses so that squatters can move in?

    Well yes … it would appear so.

    Popular. Like or Dislike: Thumb up 47 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  4. Pete George (21,831 comments) says:

    John Armstrong raised serious concerns about Greens housing ‘dog of a policy’. He’s given me more detail on his thoughts on this.

    Another factor was that the Greens’ scheme is a shared equity scheme. I was unable to find another such scheme anywhere which is skewed so heavily in favour of the buyer. That may be neccessary if you are targeting home ownership at the very bottom of the income scale.

    But it carries big risks for the taxpayer.

    Yes, a risk that investors will desert the rental property market because Green policy there is skewed so heavily in favour of the tenant, and the ext tenants will ‘buy’ no deposit no capital repayment houses – homes for life. On the government. On us. For life.

    More from John Armstrong on Green housing policy

    Vote: Thumb up 10 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  5. Lance (2,311 comments) says:

    @graham
    You will suffer brain damage from reading John Minto’s idiotic scribblings.

    It is disconnected from reality and the populous.

    Vote: Thumb up 20 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  6. KiwiGreg (3,129 comments) says:

    @ graham Minto is an ugly, embittered, sad loser. His “finest hour” was 30 years ago. He is an irrelevance and fit only for pointing at and laughing.

    Popular. Like or Dislike: Thumb up 30 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  7. barry (1,317 comments) says:

    Well the stupidity of maori tribal politics continues.

    Yesterday there was a scuffle as the GG was welcomed onto the lower marie at Watangi.
    Today the seniors of that controlling tribe have given into that horrible criminal woman who wants to hold Keys hand as he walks onto the marie to be greeted by some slob screaming and poking out his tongue.

    And they expect to be taken seriously !!!

    And in yetersday Waikato Times the foul mouthed ex truck driver (aka The King of the maoris) has finally realised that the kingi movement is mired in the shit and has called a meeting to try sort out the mess.
    And guess what? he wants that thief Tuku Morgan to run the meeting……

    idiot.

    Popular. Like or Dislike: Thumb up 27 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  8. Keeping Stock (9,791 comments) says:

    This is refreshing; a bloke injured whilst fleeing the police says that he, not the police are to blame. If only that acceptance of personal responsibility was more widespread.

    And I somehow doubt if that was the answer the Herald journo was expecting; it killed off another chance for a free hit at our hard-working front-line police men and women…

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2013/02/taking-responsibility.html

    Popular. Like or Dislike: Thumb up 30 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  9. Viking2 (10,747 comments) says:

    The king didn’t decide, Morgan did. The King has no brain.(or clothes for that role).

    The day of national disgrace is looming.

    Why does Key dignify the charade that is carried out at Waitangi?
    Cause he’s a flake and falls prey to the Taniwha.

    Vote: Thumb up 11 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  10. Keeping Stock (9,791 comments) says:

    Actually Viking2, I’m sure that Key goes to Waitangi just so that blokes like Redbaiter, Manolo and your good self will get all apoplectic :D

    Vote: Thumb up 17 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  11. graham (2,211 comments) says:

    Thanks for your concern, all. :)

    Rest assured I don’t make a habit of reading John Minto’s bile on a regular basis (having suggested avoiding The Standard for much the same reason to others previously). I was actually hunting around to see if Hone Harawira had somewhere written some sort of spin explaining why his mother was bullying everyone on the marae – it’ll be fascinating to see if he does try to justify her behaviour.

    Anyway, clicked through to Mana, see the headline, thought “WTF?” and proceeded to read.

    Vote: Thumb up 4 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  12. Longknives (4,051 comments) says:

    Can anyone explain why John Key feels compelled to attend Waitangi Day and get pushed around, abused and spat at by people that detest his very existence?

    I would have more respect for the guy if he simply said ‘sod it, I’m staying at home’…

    Popular. Like or Dislike: Thumb up 35 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  13. Nookin (2,891 comments) says:

    “Richard III has been found parked under a carpark. 500 year mystery solved.”

    He’s dead! Oh dear, when did that happen?

    Vote: Thumb up 12 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  14. Longknives (4,051 comments) says:

    And Christ how bonkers is Minto??

    Vote: Thumb up 13 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  15. KiwiGreg (3,129 comments) says:

    If the government just said “fuck it, you’re rude and unwelcoming, we’re not coming” and “oh and by the way, we’re not paying any more either” the whole ghastly charade would come to an end.

    Popular. Like or Dislike: Thumb up 33 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  16. Elaycee (4,089 comments) says:

    @Keeping Stock 8.31… Yup. Well spotted.

    Chances are tho… this admission from the P fuelled moron won’t please the panty waists who think the best way to sort out criminal behaviour is to legalise everything = no crime.

    The undisputed fact remains: this entire scenario [accident / long term injuries etc] would not have happened if the moron had stopped when instructed to by the Police.

    Vote: Thumb up 9 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  17. kowtow (6,734 comments) says:

    Keeping Stock@835

    Making a joke of Key attending Waitangi is pitched the right level .It is a joke.

    Sadly it makes a joke of the whole nation.

    Vote: Thumb up 11 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  18. kowtow (6,734 comments) says:

    Richard III.

    As Aotearoan children aren’t taught English history (they get Vietnam rammed down their throats) or much Shakespeare in English ( they get film studies,usually with an evil white oppressing an innocent black as the theme) the relevance of of that much maligned, lamely and unfashionable creature would be lost on them.

    Vote: Thumb up 12 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  19. Keeping Stock (9,791 comments) says:

    Quite so Elaycee; but to the MSM, stories about the police actually catching criminals and putting them behind bars don’t sell newspapers. They get far better sales by demonising the police, and making victims out of those who flee.

    Vote: Thumb up 7 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  20. Colville (1,780 comments) says:

    I dunno why the guy on the bike didnt stop. With the soft cock Judges we have on the bench he would have got a slap on the wrist at worst anyways…

    Vote: Thumb up 4 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  21. Pete George (21,831 comments) says:

    More on housing – some Labour + Greens housing policy maths

    Labour want to build 10,000 houses per year at an average $300,000. Thats $3 billion per year.
    Greens want to provide people with house ‘ownership’ with no requirement to pay back any capital.

    They want to be seen as a Labour+Green election choice, so we need to see what Labour+Green policies might look like.

    Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  22. Paulus (2,304 comments) says:

    If I were John Key I would enjoy going to Waitangi if only to watch the pathetic part maori shit fighting that goes on.
    Classic annual.
    Labour’s Mr Gobble Gobble is trying to make the whole thing serious – he thinks that the part maoris will vote Labour – stop dreaming – they do not really care a f… for either Labour, Greenpeace or any other party who will shit on them as in the past as soon as possible after the vote. But they are open to as much money as they can get from this divided nation.
    Labour’s history with part maori is well open to view – it has been awful.
    Greenpeace will promise the world, and do the opposite at the first opportunity.

    Vote: Thumb up 5 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  23. dime (8,790 comments) says:

    yesterday it was reported boeings 787′s could be grounded for “years”.

    i note the stock price was up today. that suggests to me the story was complete horse shit. Dime follows boeing stock closely so will keep you all updated :D

    cause i know you all give a shit

    Vote: Thumb up 14 Thumb down 3 You need to be logged in to vote
  24. Chthoniid (1,967 comments) says:

    @dime

    cause i know you all give a shit

    Indeed we do. One needs to punctuate the flow of penguin stories from our esteemed media with other news.

    Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  25. Pete George (21,831 comments) says:

    @MorganGodfery

    Former Act MP and convicted criminal Donna Awatere has been elected to the Maori Council. Not the best advertisement for the MC

    But it was by election, their choice.

    Vote: Thumb up 6 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  26. calendar girl (1,108 comments) says:

    Thanks, Dime. And the 0.75% rise in Boeing’s stock price is against the day’s trend in the Dow which is down 0.75%.

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  27. Viking2 (10,747 comments) says:

    KS. Seems that plenty agree with me.
    Sad but true.
    Allowing yourself to be bullied by bullies to the detriment of the other 87% of citizens ain’t a sign of a leader.

    Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  28. Pete George (21,831 comments) says:

    Accidentally mislaying someone’s walking sticks would solve a few Waitangi problems.

    Vote: Thumb up 11 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  29. KiwiGreg (3,129 comments) says:

    It’s just not a very volatile stock Dime – it’s basically traded between $70 and $75 all year. The bigger issue for the company isn’t media beat ups about “in flight fires” on the dreamliner but more the impact of defense cuts on its military business.

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  30. hj (5,720 comments) says:

    Delahunty waffles:
    http://blog.greens.org.nz/2013/02/04/te-tiriti-o-waitangi-and-constitutional-change/

    In a convoluted response SPC uses the “stolen meme” without clarifying what he/she is talking about since Maori (some) claim everything within their territory (at time of colonisation) less private property “legitimately purchased” as their own:

    Those comfortable acknowledging their own privilege are presumably aware that pakeha benefited from the theft of land of the indigenous people despite their land ownership being protected in the Treaty. Given the Treaty promise of chieftainship was predicated on continuing land ownership monetary settlement for the land taken is patently less than comprehensive.

    ..
    Elizabeth Rata’s clarity is in marked contrast to Delahunty.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10861949

    I heard Mathew Palmer and he spoke in high moral tone (sounded supremely confident) about incorporating the treaty etc but it occurred to me that the interpretation of the treaty used by the Greens etc is based on the notion of we are owners as we were here first and moral tone sinks to whatever the level of behaviour
    the holy landlord race wants.

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  31. Viking2 (10,747 comments) says:

    Looks like its raining at Naaska’s this morning.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  32. Viking2 (10,747 comments) says:

    Pete George (16,101) Says:
    February 5th, 2013 at 9:38 am

    Accidentally mislaying someone’s walking sticks would solve a few Waitangi problems.
    ————————–
    You will recall her time at Carrington Psychiatric hospital and the manner in which she abused patients.

    Hopefully one of them might arrive and kick the sticks from under her and give her back some of her own nastiness.

    Vote: Thumb up 10 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  33. cha (3,545 comments) says:

    30 months to build costing $40m and weighing in at 1850000kg – gone in 10 seconds.

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  34. dime (8,790 comments) says:

    kiwigreg – someone posted a story from gizmodo yesterday. said the 787 would be grounded for years.

    we agreed to disagree! my theory being the stock price will plummet if thats the case.

    the defense spending cuts are a bitch. but boeing is at the start of a new product cycle – 737max, 787. revenues were up 20% of or so in 2012. their production is ramping up big time.

    i still like the stock.

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  35. dime (8,790 comments) says:

    As we all know, the majority of unions are thugs and all round pieces of shit.

    but now they have taken it to a new level.

    Dime just hates them. entitled pricks.

    They are messing with my favourite sport. Mixed Martial Arts. (cue PG and other weak as piss males to tell me its grown mean fighting near naked blah blah same dumb shit that gets said about rugby).

    ANYWAY

    the owners of the UFC also own casinos in Vegas. Their casinos arent unionised.

    So the culinary union of vegas just hates them. using their bullying tactics they have managed to keep the UFC out of New York. isnt that just total bullshit?

    one of their newest “tactics” is to launch a boycot of Toys R US because they sell UFC action figures. “the UFC is violent”.

    i can say this though – no one has died working for the UFC. how many people have unions terrorised and killed over the years?

    in summary, fuck unions.

    rant over

    Vote: Thumb up 11 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  36. Andrei (2,431 comments) says:

    Jolly good – I’m so glad that we have authorities to rule upon what it is unreasonable to find offensive and come up with reasons why it is unreasonable.

    Apparently being offensive is not offensive if you are “promoting debate” or something

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  37. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    Andrei, “offence” is an emotion and is purely subjective. It does not describe another persons actions or anthing external to the “offended” party. Offence is claimed most commonly to manipulate others and prevent views being expressed freely.

    If you go down that path, then many could claim to be “offended” by religion, and for good reason too !

    Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  38. cha (3,545 comments) says:

    in summary, fuck unions.

    So you’re bummed about Rob Maysey and the MMAFA dime.

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  39. KiwiGreg (3,129 comments) says:

    @ dime I dont have a considered view on the stock (at 6.8x trailing EBITDA it looks cheap but you’d need to take a view on the future), I agree the “grounded for years” is just horseshit. The global duopoly with EADS is a good market structure but having your competitor as a state owned and subsidised company not so much.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  40. dime (8,790 comments) says:

    cha – i said the majority of unions. but who are they anyway?

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  41. Andrei (2,431 comments) says:

    Kea I am poking the borax at the very concept of having tribunals to rule upon what is or isn’t offensive and not leaving it up to each individual to decide for themselves – sorry if this is too obscure mate

    Ironically DPF has just posted on this matter, more or less simultaneously as I made my comment – though this particular ruling did not catch his attention nor elicit a comment from him

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  42. bhudson (4,720 comments) says:

    Richard III has been found parked under a carpark.

    Was it a hit and run?

    Vote: Thumb up 6 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  43. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    Andrei, all the tribunal should be disbanded. It is an absurd idea to form a tribunal to decide what we find offensive. It is up to the individual to decide. Usually compliants come from vocal minorities that are not representative of society generally.

    I do not need the help of self appointed moral guardians and nor do most others.

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  44. Manolo (12,643 comments) says:

    Isn’t wonderful to have a socialist as president? http://www.myfoxny.com/story/20958959/argentina-freezes-prices-to-break-inflation-spiral

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  45. cha (3,545 comments) says:

    dime – the MMAFA looks an awful lot like the NBA, NFL and NHL player associations.

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  46. dime (8,790 comments) says:

    Kiwigreg – off the top of my head they have about $300 billion in order backlogs for commercial planes. the backlog increased over the last quarter.

    i forget the production numbers but they are up huge. up from like 30 a month to 50.. that sorta jump. would have to research it again.

    pretty sure their defense revenue wont be too badly affected. they are either building a heap of new refueling tankers or upgrading existing. its worth a lot.

    they still churn out f15′s, f18′s and apaches when needed. lots of drones too!

    they are still building Dimes favourite big plane. the C-17. they are building for the indians. was a big deal when Obama visted there. he got boeing a 6 billion dollar order blah blah

    anyway, thats all i know off the top of my head. I like em :)

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  47. Manolo (12,643 comments) says:

    Is the buffoon taking the piss? http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-praises-french-militarys-incredible-competence-and-capability_699359.html

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  48. dime (8,790 comments) says:

    cha – i know the UFC arent unionised. they still offer medical insurance and other benefits.. who would have thought that would be possible without a union.

    as for player associations. greedy mofo’s for the most part.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  49. sbk (299 comments) says:

    “crack down on repeated climate crime offenders by confiscating their luxury cars and private jets. Rehabilitate persistent offenders by teaching them how to walk and use public transport”…yep…Al Gore first,then to be followed up by the re-education of the jet flying,BMW cruising delegates of the UN.

    Vote: Thumb up 4 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  50. Scott Chris (5,687 comments) says:

    30 months to build costing $40m and weighing in at 1850000kg

    If you look carefully at the video, just as the platform disappears beneath the waves, you can almost catch a glimpse of a smug looking MOSSAD frogman flippering his way back to his micro-sub.

    Vote: Thumb up 6 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  51. cha (3,545 comments) says:

    dime – The MMAFA is modelled on other players associations with UFC owner Lorenzo Fertitta saying it’s up to the fighters to decide on whether or not they join.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  52. Manolo (12,643 comments) says:

    Neville promising the impossible.

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 3 You need to be logged in to vote
  53. Fletch (5,727 comments) says:

    Re: Richard III – someone has a pic on my facebook of Blackadder the 1st with a quote, “Really Baldrick? Under a car park? That was your cunning plan?”

    Vote: Thumb up 5 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  54. Scott Chris (5,687 comments) says:

    Alas, poor Richard

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  55. Tauhei Notts (1,512 comments) says:

    A bit off topic but I saw this in today’s NZ Herald (A16).
    A criminal lawyer has been charged with smuggling illicit goods into Mt Eden prison. She says her 80 visits over 9 months was to help prepare an appeal against her client’s conviction.
    Now, over nine months there are about 180 working days. On 80 of those days she visited her client. In Auckland’s congested traffic each such visit would entail at least 60 minutes travel. That’s 80 hours on travel, before any talking is done. Incredible!
    None of lawyer mates can ever think of any matter whatsoever that would require a lawyer to make 80 individual visits to a client in a 9 month period.
    This reads to me like a massive rort of the legal aid system.

    Vote: Thumb up 12 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  56. Fletch (5,727 comments) says:

    Pornography, and the sexualization of our children. But porn is harmless, right?

    The girls are fast approaching 13, the age that Chevonea Kendall-Bryan was when she leaned out of one of the windows on the fourth floor of a block of flats on this street. A boy she knew was down here on the ground, but this was not Romeo and Juliet. Far from it.

    Chevonea had been pressurised into performing a sex act on him, and he had shared a phone clip of her doing so with all his mates. She threatened to jump from the window if he did not delete it. She had been bullied by boys since the age of 11, a coroner heard earlier this month. At 13, she was forced to perform a sex act on an 18-year-old after a party. A boy of 15 later demanded the same treatment – or he would smash the windows of her south London home. When she obeyed, he filmed her on his phone and shared the clip around her school. She threatened to jump from the window if he did not delete it.Then she slipped and fell 60 feet to the ground, dying from massive brain injuries.

    Researchers who carried out an in-depth study of the lives of pupils at two London schools in 2010 say that year eight was when they began to feel confused and overwhelmed by sexual expectations and demands.

    Claire, who must be 12 or 13, is quoted as saying of the boys in her class: “If they want oral sex, they will ask every single day until you say yes.”

    Kamal, a boy in the same year, says: “Say I got a girlfriend, I would ask her to write my name on her breast and then send it to me and then I would upload it on to Facebook or Bebo or something like that.” The profile picture on his phone, seen by everyone to whom he sends messages, is an image of his girlfriend’s cleavage. Some of the boys at his school have explicit images of up to 30 different girls on their phone. They swap them like we used to swap football cards. If they fancy a girl, they send her a picture of their genitals. As one teenage girl said after the report came out, sending pictures of your body parts is “the new flirting”.

    Chloe Combi, a former teacher who began her career in “a pretty posh school”, has written in the Times Educational Supplement about when it goes further: “The hardest conversation I’ve ever had was with a distraught, confused man of about 45. I had to explain to him that we had to exclude from school his seemingly non-abused, non-disturbed, well-loved daughter because she had been caught administering fellatio to a line of young men in the boys’ toilets for cash.”

    Ms Combi went on: “A friend of mine, who teaches at another school (much more posh than mine) said that it had got so bad they had to go on patrol every lunchtime to prevent similar incidents.”

    What is the cause of all this? We need more research, the experts say. But to a dismayed parent, it seems like the horrific result of a massive experiment. Thanks to the internet, our boys and girls are the first children to grow up with free, round-the-clock access to hardcore pornography. Porn has become part of the adult mainstream, colouring everything from advertising to best-selling books like Fifty Shades of Grey. Of course our children are affected.

    As adults, we also have to be clear where the blame lies. I’m reminded of that as I travel home to hug the girls, and a text arrives from a 14-year-old friend of the family. Responding to the call to talk about the pressure she’s under, she texts: “DON’T bash the kids. We don’t sell porn. Grown-ups do. YOU FIX IT!!!!”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/9828589/Children-and-the-culture-of-pornography-Boys-will-ask-you-every-day-until-you-say-yes.html

    Vote: Thumb up 6 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  57. Fletch (5,727 comments) says:

    Looks like Obama has a new test for military commanders – they must be able to give the order to fire on American citizens, according to a Facebook post by Noble Peace Prize nominee and humanitarian Dr. Jim Garrow

    Noble Peace Prize nominee and humanitarian Dr. Jim Garrow is not known for outrageous accusations. Dedicated to his humanitarian work, he has not ventured into the spotlight for a moment other than to write a book about the trouble of China’s one-child policy. That has changed as he has recently divulged information he says he received from a former senior military leader in the Obama Administration.

    Garrow announced,

    “I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new ‘litmus test’ in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. ‘The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not.’ Those who will not are being removed.”

    “The man who told me this is one of America’s foremost military heroes.”

    https://www.facebook.com/jim.garrow.1/posts/10151209214442015

    Dr. Jim Garrow has spent the last 16 years rescuing baby girls from the harsh realities and near-certain death of China’s one-child-per-couple rule. From his efforts to raise awareness of the problem and his willingness to facilitate the adoption of these infants, it is estimated that he has saved 40,000 babies and has been considered for a Nobel Peace Prize. While he has not released who his source is, Garrow has maintained a pretty low profile and seems to not be associated with any fringe ideologies.

    Looks like Obama is tooling up for another civil war.

    Vote: Thumb up 4 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  58. Nookin (2,891 comments) says:

    I wonder who will be paying Richard III’s parking infringement fees?

    Vote: Thumb up 4 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  59. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    9/11: The Engineers’ Report

    Just the facts

    There are four kinds of people who don’t get this:

    1. They have not taken the time to look into it

    2. They don’t want to know

    3. They’re intellectually deficient

    4. They somehow benefit from going along with the bullshit coverup because it’s a way to avoid criticism or, in the case of cops, it’s a way to get expensive new toys – and limitless overtime – to “fight terrorism.”

    From YouTube:

    This is the 1-hour version of our groundbreaking documentary 9/11: Explosive Evidence — Experts Speak Out which is available for purchase as a DVD in our online store at http://www.AE911Truth.org or as a download or video-on-demand at http://www.911ExpertsSpeakOut.org .

    Public Broadcasting Station, Colorado Public Television (cpt12.org), have courageously thrust themselves at the forefront of our nation’s public service media network. CPT12 recently aired this powerful and controversial film as a featured premium during their Summer fundraising campaign. The PBS national website then posted the re-broadcast which quickly became one of their “Most Watched” as well as “Most Shared” programs on PBS.

    http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/the-911-files/911-the-engineers-report.html

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 7 You need to be logged in to vote
  60. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    Eric Holder threw a hissy fit.

    Justice Department’s Lanny
    Breuer just quit.

    Why?

    PBS Frontline just nailed them
    as enablers of the biggest
    financial fraud in history.

    Video:

    http://www.realecontv.com/page/22090.html

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  61. dime (8,790 comments) says:

    lmao @ hinamanu

    there is something about pot smokers. they see conspiracies everywhere. go get high, loser.

    Vote: Thumb up 5 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  62. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    Anyone would think I make up all these vids and not the professionals who produce them.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 3 You need to be logged in to vote
  63. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    This man is the no 1 financial blogger internationally

    If you don’t know him you know little about whats really going on

    In this episode of the Keiser Report, Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert discuss the global yellow cake baking, talcum powder shaking, perpetual war making, balloon boy chasing, fake it til you make it economy in which spoof trading and a shadow banking system collateralised by a combination of liar loans and temporary workers consuming genetically modified food-like products produces such heroes for our times as Robb U, the guy who was handed $6 million in loans based on having a YouTube music video with a million plus views. In the second half of the show, Max Keiser talks to former Scotland Yard fraud squad detective, Rowan Bosworth-Davies of Rowans-Blog.blogspot.co.uk about justice departments and regulators going after the ‘little guy’ because he is ‘easier’ to get than the too-big-to-fail.

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  64. Harriet (4,013 comments) says:

    “…..Jolly good – I’m so glad that we have authorities to rule upon what it is unreasonable to find offensive and come up with reasons why it is unreasonable….”

    20 yrs ago we knew what racism & sexism was in the vocabulary sense – anything said that was pointless and unconstructive. Most people had the manners to listen to what was said, and then reject it if it had no value. End of matter.

    Now we can’t even refer to some people at all without them instantly ‘feeling’ ‘offended’!

    Minorities and some women are now very impolite, self absorbed, and obviously clueless about how humans interact to better themselves and society!

    They’re fucken dismal – and I fear for the mental welfare of their children! :cool:

    Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 3 You need to be logged in to vote
  65. Manolo (12,643 comments) says:

    The Stone Agers are waiting for a piece of the action: http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/8262058/Maori-wait-on-radio-spectrum-decision

    Vote: Thumb up 5 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  66. Pete George (21,831 comments) says:

    For anyone interested in prmoting discussion on cannabis law:

    Is Cannabis Prohibition Working?

    Arguably, cannabis prohibition has failed to produce results for too long. More and more people are using cannabis every day. Let’s start the conversation about our cannabis laws and try to get better results for our communities.

    Let’s start the conversation: http://www.conversation.org.nz/

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  67. kowtow (6,734 comments) says:

    Fletch

    You are quite right about the sexualisation of our children. It’s appalling. They are truly the victims of our progressive,permissive society that has largely abandoned it’s old values,to be replaced by this mass abuse of youngsters?

    http://www.rogersandall.com/sexualizing-everyday-life/

    Vote: Thumb up 4 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  68. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    In a major victory for taxpayers in Iceland, an obscure transnational court ruled against the European Union and a similar supranational body last week, deciding that the tiny population of the island nation was not responsible for the massive liabilities of a private Icelandic bank that went bust during the 2008 economic meltdown. Establishment analysts blasted the decision as a “blow to global banking,” but Icelanders and proponents of the free market celebrated the verdict as a big win for the people and market principles — after all, they argue, citizens should not be forced to pay for the reckless and potentially criminal actions of a few bankers, widely criticized as “banksters” in recent years.

    The Luxembourg-based European Free Trade Association (EFTA) court, of which the Icelandic government is a member, issued its landmark ruling on January 28 addressing two key charges against national authorities. Despite Iceland’s not being a member of the EU, one of the cases against the country was filed by the European Commission, a sort of “executive branch” in the sprawling, increasingly powerful and out-of-control European superstate. The EFTA “Surveillance Authority” also filed a case alleging a violation of its rules.

    The first complaint was that the Icelandic government failed to obey an EU directive ordering it to pay about $25,000 worth of “insurance” to every foreign depositor by extracting it from domestic taxpayers — a proposition that would have devastated the 300,000 or so Icelandic citizens and their already-ruined economy for generations to come. While the bankrupt bank’s assets have been used to compensate foreign depositors, the EFTA court ruled that citizens were not responsible for the liabilities.

    Full article: thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/14415-iceland-taxpayers-win-key-case-against-european-establishment

    Vote: Thumb up 4 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  69. Weihana (4,475 comments) says:

    Pete George (16,109) Says:
    February 5th, 2013 at 12:40 pm

    For anyone interested in prmoting discussion on cannabis law:

    Let’s start the conversation: http://www.conversation.org.nz/

    Although opponents of reform don’t want a conversation. Fear and ignorance permits the status quo and a conversation can only undermine that.

    For my part the conversation is fairly straightforward: Legalize, tax and regulate. Anything less is not a real conversation about Cannabis law reform though any watering down of the current law and any reduction in the amount of government expenditure on these laws should be welcomed by all.

    Vote: Thumb up 5 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  70. Weihana (4,475 comments) says:

    Fletch (3,857) Says:
    February 5th, 2013 at 11:11 am

    …But porn is harmless, right?

    Of course not. Severe ocular irritation can occur. I suggest wearing goggles.

    …she had been caught administering fellatio to a line of young men in the boys’ toilets for cash

    Thanks to the internet, our boys and girls are the first children to grow up with free, round-the-clock access to hardcore pornography.

    And as we all know: young people never had sex before the internet.

    Vote: Thumb up 6 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  71. graham (2,211 comments) says:

    I don’t think anybody is arguing the point that young people had sex before the Internet, Weihana. The point is that the Internet provides “free, round-the-clock access to hardcore pornography” that children can – and do – access easily. This is undesirable.

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 5 You need to be logged in to vote
  72. RightNow (6,350 comments) says:

    A 5-year-old boy who was being held hostage in an underground bunker in Alabama for nearly a week has been released while his abductor is now dead, authorities said Monday.

    Best news I’ve read all week.
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/04/boy-in-center-alabama-hostage-standoff-released-source-says/#ixzz2Jz9eCuRS

    Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  73. Weihana (4,475 comments) says:

    graham (1,586) Says:
    February 5th, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    I don’t think anybody is arguing the point that young people had sex before the Internet, Weihana. The point is that the Internet provides “free, round-the-clock access to hardcore pornography” that children can – and do – access easily. This is undesirable.

    Easily? Well sure it’s easy. All they need to do is get a job, buy themselves a computer and then purchase a broadband connection. If they can manage that on their own then maybe they’ve earned the right to jerk off to something other than a lingerie catalogue.

    Now if no one is arguing that young people didn’t have sex before the internet then an example of young people having sex is hardly proof that pornography is either the cause or the problem. If you don’t want your kids (or rather, your teenage boys) to be jerking off 24/7 to pornography then do something about it.

    Vote: Thumb up 4 Thumb down 3 You need to be logged in to vote
  74. TheContrarian (1,043 comments) says:

    “I don’t think anybody is arguing the point that young people had sex before the Internet, Weihana. The point is that the Internet provides “free, round-the-clock access to hardcore pornography” that children can – and do – access easily. This is undesirable.”

    There are many things parents can do to minimize exposure.

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  75. dime (8,790 comments) says:

    The internet is a beautiful thing!

    Dime has been known to sleep with girls in their early 20s. all i have to say is – holy shit!! its amazing what these girls think is normal sex. they basically act like porn stars.

    Vote: Thumb up 6 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  76. bhudson (4,720 comments) says:

    I wonder who will be paying Richard III’s parking infringement fees?

    @Nookin,

    They’ve been waived in recognition of his long internship with the Council

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  77. cha (3,545 comments) says:

    Worst thing I’ve read all week.

    http://boingboing.net/2013/02/04/former-pilot-and-911-conspira.html

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  78. chiz (1,095 comments) says:

    It’s worth noting that the results about Richard III haven’t actually been published in a peer-reviewed journal yet, they were released to coincide with a TV documentary. Some people have already been urging caution about the DNA claims (here and here).

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  79. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    Regulate drugs on the harm the do.
    http://www.police.govt.nz/service/drugs/faq.html#3
    Some almost harmless options are now class A With a possible 6 months jail for possession and life for selling.

    Lsd and mushrooms should not be class A They are harmless for all intents.

    Far more dangerous drugs are sold at you local diary than most the recreational drugs common on the black market in New Zealand.
    http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/11/drugs_cause_most_harm

    Those that oppose drug reform often do not recognize the cost of damage done by alcohol. Alcohol drives a significant proportion of crime and accidents With half of both violent crime and weekend A&E admissions involving drink.

    If we ease up on safer options we would Save money and reduce crime .

    Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  80. Fletch (5,727 comments) says:

    I did think it was quite lucky that they found something the first place they dug in, and the first skeleton turned out to be the right one. But, maybe they were lucky.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  81. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    i note that i recieved many negative votes for pointing out out that 1 in
    20 male homosexuals in New Zealand are now aids carriers
    ( i might have agravated some by using the term “riddled with aids,”

    i pointed this out because i was unaware of this fact and was appalled when i found
    out it was true. ( not disputed by the NZ aids Foundation )

    What does the fact that that i received such a negative reaction for posting that statistic
    mean?

    1 Many homos post on kiwiblog.
    2 NZ has become such a PC society that we are unable to deal with truth.
    3 ?????

    What do you think ?

    Vote: Thumb up 11 Thumb down 10 You need to be logged in to vote
  82. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Bereal, that you are a trolling homophobic christian (or perhaps catholic and we all know what they do to little boys).hth’s

    Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 8 You need to be logged in to vote
  83. chiz (1,095 comments) says:

    Maybe people just don’t like you bereal.

    Btw, killed any more cats lately?

    Vote: Thumb up 4 Thumb down 4 You need to be logged in to vote
  84. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    OK well there is the first reaction.
    from expat.

    others will be able to judge its value.

    Always just pathetic to attack the messenger and ignore the message.

    Right expat ?

    Have you anything to contribute ?

    If not, …………..

    and chiz, add something to the conversation or just F.O.

    Vote: Thumb up 5 Thumb down 6 You need to be logged in to vote
  85. Colville (1,780 comments) says:

    Re: Drugs.

    For me (and my taxes) I would have marijuana and E legal for personal use. The state should manufacture E. Its a far better drug for young dancers/party animals than booze. (I have a glass of wine beside me) Pot if sold free of additives is recreational tho I dont go there myself.

    the fact that NZ is way down the bottom of the world means we get only the dregs of the chemicals and they are unbelieveably harmful. Is it 2 mil E users each weekend in the UK now? at 2 quid a pop. cheap clean fun.

    Vote: Thumb up 5 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  86. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Troll. Are you a god botherer?

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 4 You need to be logged in to vote
  87. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    i’d be intersested to hear from anyone who would care to dispute the fact that 1 in 20 male
    homosexuals in New Zealand are now riddled with aids.

    What about say, expat or say, chiz.

    Vote: Thumb up 6 Thumb down 3 You need to be logged in to vote
  88. Reid (15,608 comments) says:

    i’d be intersested to hear from anyone who would care to dispute the fact that 1 in 20 male
    homosexuals in New Zealand are now riddled with aids.

    I think the point is bereal, who cares? What’s your real point?

    The internet is a beautiful thing! Dime has been known to sleep with girls in their early 20s. all i have to say is – holy shit!! its amazing what these girls think is normal sex. they basically act like porn stars.

    Bought to you by feminism dime. I wonder what those girls will think of themselves and their lives once they let their biological tick away and look around at their lonely, wasted life?

    Vote: Thumb up 6 Thumb down 3 You need to be logged in to vote
  89. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Be real, are you a practising christian? Are you from a modern ‘born again’ church?

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  90. nasska (9,559 comments) says:

    A head cold must have been fun in the old days.

    Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/fl9b0wiczlqk5k9/Cough.png

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  91. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Be real? Witch finder general got your tongue?

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  92. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Dear Reid,
    the point is, that as this statistic is not published ( for whatever reason)
    many young men., who may be tempted, for whatever reason, are not
    aware of the risk they run.
    If they were aware that that they stood a 1 in 20 chance of contracting aids they may think twice.

    Of course, it is in the interest of of … who do you think…. to suppress this fact ?

    Three facts about male homosexuals for your info.

    1 The most promiscuous animal on earth is the male homosexual.

    2. The male homosexual has up to 1000 contacts per year.

    3. There is an element amongst male homosexuals who obtain their ultimate gratification
    from corrupting a youth.

    Wanna argue with those facts ?

    Vote: Thumb up 4 Thumb down 5 You need to be logged in to vote
  93. nasska (9,559 comments) says:

    Medical researchers have just announced that they have discovered a new illness which has no symptoms. It is impossible to detect and has no known cure. Fortunately no cases have been reported yet.

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  94. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Be real, you believe in the sky fairy?

    Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  95. Weihana (4,475 comments) says:

    Reid (12,939) Says:
    February 5th, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    Bought to you by feminism dime. I wonder what those girls will think of themselves and their lives once they let their biological tick away and look around at their lonely, wasted life?

    You are aware that women get old even if they do not have sex?

    http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01973/Teresita_1973530c.jpg

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  96. Mary Rose (392 comments) says:

    >2. The male homosexual has up to 1000 contacts per year.

    Three different blokes every night (well, 2.7 )?????

    Hard to argue with facts like that.

    (Of course ‘up to’ could actually mean 0).

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  97. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    bereal says
    1 The most promiscuous animal on earth is the male homosexual.

    http://www.popfi.com/2010/03/25/natures-sluttiest-animal/

    If you thought the most promiscuous animals in nature were syphilitic Facebook users, then you were wrong. Even the horniest pervert online has nothing on the Littorina saxatilis, or rough periwinkle snail, which is the most promiscuous animal in nature. The females lay clutches of eggs in groups of 70 or so, and for every 70 eggs, the female snail averages about 19 or so male fertilizing partners. As for the male snails, they track other snails via mucus trail (sexy!) and will mate with pretty much anything they come across, even if it’s not the right species or gender for breeding purposes

    wrong again bereal, but you are a sport, limited your outlook may be but you keep on giving it the old college try, good on ya mate

    Vote: Thumb up 8 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  98. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Those three observations regarding male homosexuals are not my origional thoughts.
    They came from Daryl Gates, (look him up pauleastbay. he is a an ex cop and one who makes you look
    just like the fool you are) you fool.

    The huge intellect, Pauleastbay, has come up with a contradiction.

    The Littorina saxatills.
    Well done paul…

    FFS

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 5 You need to be logged in to vote
  99. Johnboy (13,439 comments) says:

    Depending on the size of his flock I suspect the average sheepherder could outroot any of them homo fellers! :)

    Vote: Thumb up 4 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  100. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    That would be the genius Daryl Gates who was Police Chief when the LA riots broke out. The Police Chief that turned the LAPD into one of the most depised police departments in the world, yep I’ve heard of him

    A quick wiki however fails to disclose any medical background or even research history that would enable him to statisically prove anything you have posted, but never fear, we were all aware that they weren’t your original thoughts bereal because they are too stupid even for you, even if you were totally hammered and suggesting fellow commentators here ‘ kill themselves’

    By the way there is no contradiction , there is a rather large difference between a ‘fact’ and a contradiction

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  101. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    The same daryl gates who was police Chief in the Rodney king era? Fucking awesome. Bet he wasn’t a bigoted ole boy who believed in the sky fairy.

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  102. Viking2 (10,747 comments) says:

    rain down your ways johnboy and naaska?

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  103. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    expat

    Bet he wasn’t a bigoted ole boy who believed in the sky fairy.

    ‘fraid so mate,

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  104. Johnboy (13,439 comments) says:

    A bit more would have been better V2.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  105. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    JB

    Move to Wanganui, it pissed down there this afternoon and it was snowing on Ruapehu at 4.30

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  106. Johnboy (13,439 comments) says:

    I went into town today and the great unwashed looked just as shitty as last time! :)

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  107. Viking2 (10,747 comments) says:

    the late Sir Paul Holmes – who had a wonderful way with words – wrote the following:

    “Waitangi Day produced its usual hatred, rudeness, and violence against a clearly elected Prime Minister from a group of hateful, hate-fuelled weirdos who seem to exist in a perfect world of benefit provision. This enables them to blissfully continue to believe that New Zealand is the centre of the world, no one has to have a job and the Treaty is all that matters.

    “I’m over Waitangi Day. It is repugnant. It’s a ghastly affair. As I lie in bed on Waitangi morning, I know that later that evening, the news will show us irrational Maori ghastliness with spitting, smugness, self-righteousness and the usual neurotic Maori politics, in which some bizarre new wrong we’ve never thought about will be lying on the table.

    http://www.nzcpr.com/

    Vote: Thumb up 6 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  108. Johnboy (13,439 comments) says:

    Nice place PEB but I’ve always had trouble getting my tongue round the “Wh” aspect! :)

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  109. Viking2 (10,747 comments) says:

    Good soak up here and just had a couple of hours heavy as the southerly went threu. Cool but clearing skies.
    Waikato v dry so ots of feed being sold and sfifted from the port.
    Hope it pisses down at waitangi tomorrow.

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  110. Johnboy (13,439 comments) says:

    Do you think the rain might wash off the shit the Murri’s toss at JK V2? :)

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  111. nasska (9,559 comments) says:

    V2

    56mm on the rain gauge by late arvo…..very much appreciated but it may be too late for the higher ground.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  112. Viking2 (10,747 comments) says:

    you mean JK don’t you?

    Who cares, shit always smells like shit. If he is stupid enough to dignify going to that shit hole then he desrves what he gets. I watched him trying to dignify his attendence there, tonight on the telly, how pathetic.
    They have got him and the Nats. exactly where they want thewm . And too bad for the rest of us.

    http://www.nzcpr.com/weekly360.htm

    “Well, it’s a bullshit day, Waitangi. It’s a day of lies. It is loony Maori fringe self-denial day… No, if Maori want Waitangi Day for themselves, let them have it.”[1]

    Sir Paul Holmes.

    The Waitangi “season” is here – that time of year when our political leaders embark upon their political pilgrimages of atonement and appeasement, firstly to Ratana pa, then on to Waitangi in Northland. This annual charade will culminate in the “official” Waitangi Day “celebrations”, when the northern clans traditionally indulge in their offensive, often violent and always insulting behaviour, only this time, it happens where the treaty was signed. New Zealanders will be urged to commemorate and celebrate this day on which we are supposed to believe we are a united society.

    http://www.nzcpr.com/weekly360.htm

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  113. big bruv (12,388 comments) says:

    Don’t know what you rural types are moaning about. Just get your local National MP to declare it a drought and the good old tax payer will be forced to cough up funds to get you through the “tough times”, all you have to do is keep voting for the Nat’s.

    Pity that other business folk have to take insurance out to cover any interruption to their operations.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  114. Viking2 (10,747 comments) says:

    Well I guess its all welcome and the temp erature is down a bit. The winies down by the lake won’t be as happy as you.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  115. Yvette (2,591 comments) says:

    “My attitude is that gays and lesbians should have access and opportunity the same way everybody else does in every institution and walk of life,” Obama said. “The Scouts are a great institution that are promoting young people and exposing them to opportunities and leadership that will serve people for the rest of their lives. And I think nobody should be barred from that.”
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/10643057

    Déjà vu …

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  116. Johnboy (13,439 comments) says:

    My virtual sheep only eat virtual grass anyway so rainfall is virtually meaningless to me! :)

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  117. Viking2 (10,747 comments) says:

    Ok so did your virtual fencer ever get that barbed wire knitted for you?

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  118. Johnboy (13,439 comments) says:

    Wasn’t there a rumour that Baden-Powell a tad dodgy Yvette?

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  119. Yvette (2,591 comments) says:

    Harawira Day – déjà vu … again

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  120. Johnboy (13,439 comments) says:

    Still waiting V2. I am eternally hopeful of a meaningful consummation of our contract. :)

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  121. Viking2 (10,747 comments) says:

    Well the council are looking to sell her Auckland estate for the rates bill so she may well want to come and stay soon. That would be fun for you,

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  122. Yvette (2,591 comments) says:

    Johnboy – you mean Robert Stephenson Smyth Baden-Powell, 1st Baron Baden-Powell of Gilwell ?
    At least he said “be prepared” so maybe he was :-)

    Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  123. nasska (9,559 comments) says:

    Time to clean out the virtual pigsty for your new border JB. :)

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  124. graham (2,211 comments) says:

    I commented earlier that the Internet provides “free, round-the-clock access to hardcore pornography” that children can – and do – access easily. This is undesirable.

    Weihana replied at 3:48 pm:

    Easily? Well sure it’s easy. All they need to do is get a job, buy themselves a computer and then purchase a broadband connection. If they can manage that on their own then maybe they’ve earned the right to jerk off to something other than a lingerie catalogue.

    Yuh. Right. Because there’s NO WAY any teenager would, ooh, use their dad’s computer and broadband connection. Or maybe the iPad they “needed for school, dad.” Just like kids never had sex before the Internet, and pornography doesn’t affect people (well obviously porn doesn’t have that big an impact, because there’s so little of it around …)

    Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  125. Viking2 (10,747 comments) says:

    oh so what porn ya bin watchin tonight then?

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  126. nasska (9,559 comments) says:

    Come on graham…. time to ‘fess up. The title was ‘Anal Nymphomaniacs do K Road’ wasn’t it? :)

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  127. Johnboy (13,439 comments) says:

    I wonder if Obama reads:

    “Contrary views of Baden-Powell’s actions during the siege argue that his success in resisting the Boers was secured at the expense of the lives of the native African soldiers and civilians, including members of his own African garrison. Pakenham stated that Baden-Powell drastically reduced the rations to the native garrison.[17] However, in 2001, after subsequent research, Pakenham decidedly retreated from this position.[7][18]”

    “Baden-Powell was accused of illegally executing a prisoner of war in 1896, the Matabele chief Uwini, who had been promised his life would be spared if he surrendered. Uwini was shot by firing squad under Baden-Powell’s instructions. Baden-Powell was cleared by an inquiry, and later claimed he was “released without a stain on my character.”

    “Tim Jeal, who wrote the biography Baden-Powell, argued that Baden-Powell’s distrust of communism led to his implicit support, through naïveté, of fascism. In 1939 Baden-Powell noted in his diary: “Lay up all day. Read Mein Kampf. A wonderful book, with good ideas on education, health, propaganda, organisation etc. – and ideals which Hitler does not practise himself.”[7]:550 Baden-Powell admired Benito Mussolini early in the Italian fascist leader’s career.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Baden-Powell,_1st_Baron_Baden-Powell

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  128. Yvette (2,591 comments) says:

    Wai [water] nui [big] o [of] Mata [woman's name] supposedly refers to the women who came over the Wainuiomata Hill to evade marauding tribes from the north – like those evading Auckland city council rates – sat in the stream crying big time.
    Déjà vu – Johnboy

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  129. Johnboy (13,439 comments) says:

    You are always welcome to come over the hill and bathe in my stream Yvette! :)

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  130. Reid (15,608 comments) says:

    Meanwhile some staggering insights from the survey the taxpayer funded into how we all, apparently, feel about the Maowi:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10863639

    e.g.

    “Our findings suggest that Europeans who prefer to use the term Pakeha to describe themselves, are likely expressing a desire to recognise a positive relationship with Maori,” Sibley said.

    What an insight. Boy. Wow. Fucking hell. Who’da thunk in a gajillion years, that such could possibli be so, in any way, at all, ever.

    Maybe Delahunty was the only person they “surveyed.” Boy, good thing the watchdog media is discerning enough to see straight through the propaganda bullshit that we pay for which Maori academics serve up to us on the eve of Waitangi day, isn’t it. I feel all cuddly and gooey.

    Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  131. Johnboy (13,439 comments) says:

    Since I stopped being a direct descendant of nomads from the Caucasus Mountains or a fellow from Europe (as our Government likes to categorise us Whitey’s in all their official forms) and became a simple New Zealander it is as if a lifetime of guilt and indecisiveness has been lifted from my shoulders.

    I really feel like I belong here now! :)

    Vote: Thumb up 5 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  132. Yvette (2,591 comments) says:

    Not after Kiatoke, johnboy – shinny dipping in a pool there – peaceable quite, i thought, until several families suddenly turned up shallow end and the only way out was to climb a cliff at the other end, then sneak back through the trees to the car.

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  133. Johnboy (13,439 comments) says:

    My stream is private Yvette. Just us! :)

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  134. Yvette (2,591 comments) says:

    Pity about Baden-Powell and Mein Kampf and Hitler and Benito Mussolini – I wasn’t prepared for that!

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  135. kowtow (6,734 comments) says:

    Big news. Paedophile ring busted in New Zealand!

    Silence from Slater as no Catholic clergy were involved.

    Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  136. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Kowtow, what’s your point?

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  137. big bruv (12,388 comments) says:

    “Silence from Slater as no Catholic clergy were involved.”

    Are you sure Kowtow?, I imagine that most people heard that news and just assumed that the accused were Catholic Priests. It does seem to be fairly normal behaviour for the Catholic clergy.

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to post a comment.