General Debate 6 February 2013

February 6th, 2013 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. Left Right and Centre (2,971 comments) says:

    GD fluff piece:

    I was given Pepsi Max and Coke Zero.

    Double blind taste test time!!

    Used ten identical glasses and marked the bottom of five with a vivid.

    Mixed them up.

    Pity I didn’t bother washing them first. Too lazy. They were dusty and drinking out of them was foul.

    hahaha…I also forgot which fuckin drink had the vivid on the bottom. Decided that they both tasted like shit and gave up.

    I subsequently washed every glass and even cleaned the shelves of that cupboard…. my goodness….

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  2. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    DPF, Peter Dunne, Mike Hosking, ODT Editorial, mamny KB commenters – all saying we need a day to celebrate New Zealand, and Waitangi day is not it – Hone Harawira said today is an opportunity for “robust discussion”.

    In any case Waitangi Day is too much centred and focused on just one place in New Zealand, Waitangi.

    But I heard all this last year, and the year before. And after the grizzling nothing different happens.

    Protest Day? New Zealand Day? Or should it be National Apathy Day? If anyone could be bothered.

    http://yournz.org/2013/02/06/new-zealand-day-protest-day-apathy-day/

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  3. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    ‘Robust discussion is what Waitangi is all about’ – Harawira on Firstline.

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  4. Sofia (856 comments) says:

    Pakeha label ka pai for most
    Half of all the 6518 people surveyed preferred being called a “New Zealander” followed by Pakeha on 31 per cent and Kiwi on 24 per cent.

    Among white New Zealanders, 53 per cent preferred to be known as a New Zealander.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8267422/Pakeha-label-ka-pai-for-most

    This differs a little from an earlier report –

    “Our findings suggest that Europeans who prefer to use the term Pakeha to describe themselves, are likely expressing a desire to recognise a positive relationship with Maori,” Sibley said.
    Findings also showed that the use of the term “Pakeha” was low overall at 14 per cent, compared with “New Zealander” which was used by 50 per cent of those surveyed.
    Of the total 6518 people surveyed, 1163 were Maori
    and 4618 New Zealanders of European descent.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10863639

    “Researcher Carla Houkamau says Maori prefer the term Pakeha to ‘New Zealand European’, ‘Kiwi’ or ‘New Zealander’.”
    But New Zealanders in general don’t.
    Not a very competent attempt at a little social engineering

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  5. Reid (16,290 comments) says:

    So now it’s beneficiaries who are “attacked from all sides.”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10863719

    I keep waiting for a survey that gets to the real victims of discrimination in this society: white men. We’re blamed for everything, all the time. How come no-one ever mentions that?

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  6. Left Right and Centre (2,971 comments) says:

    I’d rather be called fuckin honky than pakeha

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  7. Left Right and Centre (2,971 comments) says:

    ….or cracker. Cracker makes me laugh… hahahaha

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  8. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    I researched it a while ago and as a result feel comfortable with being called pakeha – The soft and loud of “Pākehā”

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  9. nasska (11,277 comments) says:

    How much longer do we have to put up with the clown Joris de Bres mouthing off about discrimination & poor beneficiaries?

    I thought that his time had been called.

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  10. big bruv (13,725 comments) says:

    Oh dear, it seems that “little brother” has been away from NZ for a bit long.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/blogs/bull-dust/8264842/Ten-reasons-why-we-re-better-than-Australia

    Of course Colin is dead wrong in nine of the ten reasons. Yes Aussie does have a truck load of things that can kill you but then again a sector of our community seems to be able to make up for the crocs when it comes to killing our young.

    The rest of Colin’s “reasons” are pure bullshit and simply highlights the insecurity that so many Kiwis display. Where he is right is when he says that all Kiwi’s should leave NZ at least once, because only then do you realise that we are nothing more than a small group of islands at the bottom of the world that nobody else cares about or knows about.

    Only when you leave NZ are you shocked into reality, you quickly find out that….

    1. The rest of the world has never heard of the All Blacks
    2. Everybody else wonders why your sense of dress is so drab given that you wear a black rugby jersey everywhere.
    3. They wonder why you are wearing a piece of last nights roast chicken dinner on a bit of string around your neck.
    4. Roast Lamb is nothing more than that, Europe does not have a party and celebrate NZ everytime they sit down to a roast lamb dinner.
    5. Read same for NZ wine, yes they drink it but they don’t have a party because it comes from NZ.
    6. Most people have no bloody idea where we are…and it does not matter nor is it an insult, we simply are not on their radar.
    7. Dame Kiri who?
    8. Nobody “gets” the Haka, they think it is a rain dance and looks silly.
    9. Nobody knows nor cares that we are nuclear free.
    10. We are seen as perennial moaners and under achievers.
    11. Everybody thinks we are Australian.
    12. Wonders why so many of us are overseas if all we can do is insult our host country by telling them how much better NZ is.
    13. If they do ever visit, those from overseas walk around Palmerston North wondering where the beach is because everybody they met from Palmy told them that all Kiwis lived at the beach. They also wonder why our weather is not a lot better than what they have in the UK.

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  11. big bruv (13,725 comments) says:

    Gay marriage bill passes it first reading in the UK. 400-125

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  12. All_on_Red (1,581 comments) says:

    “Robust debate”?
    About what? I thought the Treaty was agreed to and signed years ago.
    Fucking revisionists.

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  13. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    That’s a big vote in favour, not far off the proportion voting for it here. The weight of opinion has swung very much for equalising rights and recognising differences rather than trying to deny them.

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  14. Scott Chris (6,060 comments) says:

    American study on cats:

    both the pet Fluffies that spend part of the day outdoors and the unnamed strays and ferals that never leave it — kill a median of 2.4 billion birds and 12.3 billion mammals a year, most of them native mammals like shrews, chipmunks and voles rather than introduced pests like the Norway rat.

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  15. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    Except that seems to be wrong. It was 400-175.

    The Commons voted in favour of the The Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill, by 400 to 175, a majority of 225, at the end of a full day’s debate on the bill.

    Prime Minister David Cameron has described the move as “an important step forward” that strengthens society.

    About 140 Conservative MPs are thought to have voted against the plans.

    Former children’s minister and Conservative MP Tim Loughton told the BBC that he believed “140 or so” of his party colleagues had voted against the plans, along with “a small rump of Labour MPs” and “four Lib Dem MPs”.

    He added: “Apparently there’s 132 Conservative MPs that voted in favour, so I think what we’re going to see is that more Conservative MPs voted against this legislation than for it.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21346220

    That’s still a big majority.

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  16. Andrei (2,570 comments) says:

    That’s a big vote in favour, not far off the proportion voting for it here. The weight of opinion has swung very much for equalising rights and recognising differences rather than trying to deny them.

    Another Pete George pompous pontification.

    The only thing being denied here, Pete George, is reality – The once Great Britain is now a sorry degenrate country, nearly bankrupt financially, slowly surrendering its sovereignity to a European technocratic elite and whose native population is being replaced by the more dymanic peoples of Southern Asia and West Africa.

    And while this going their leadership are spending their energies on providing vanity “marriages” for upper middle class homosexuals and lesbians so they can feel validated.

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  17. wiseowl (869 comments) says:

    1. The word pakehaha is derogatory and a bloody insult as far as I am concerned. New Zealanders just should not accept its use as a description at all.

    2. The vote in UK shows how so many cannot get into their heads that marriage is between a man and woman. Fullstop.

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  18. wiseowl (869 comments) says:

    Where in the media was the coverage of the excellent speech up North by John Ansell.

    You can’t hide from the truth.

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  19. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    John Key’s Waitangi Day speech, he’s quite forthright on some things.

    http://johnkey.co.nz/archives/1592-Waitangi-Day-Speech.html

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  20. MT_Tinman (3,136 comments) says:

    10. We are seen as perennial moaners and under achievers.
    11. Everybody thinks we are Australian.

    These two appear to be self explanatory Big Bruv.

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  21. big bruv (13,725 comments) says:

    Andrei

    The reality is that the UK (NZ will soon follow) is mature enough to understand that gays should not be discriminated against.

    It is also a huge “fuck you” to the religious faction and that is always a good thing.

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  22. Azeraph (604 comments) says:

    So does anyone here agree with Canada stripping it’s native peoples of their treaty rights for resource exploration? Native Indian women are under attack all the time, It’s quite shocking to see the numbers. A lot are murdered or just disappear. There is something wrong going on in there country.

    You all are thinking “So what, there just Pocahontas, their not real people” The true gold is the resources, frak the Indians kill them all like they should have done. Sieg heil!

    But the resources leave the country and never return giving them a finite existence. We should watch Canada closely because the blues are watching them as well, aren’t you sweeties?

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  23. Hodor (38 comments) says:

    hello all, long time reader, first time commenter.

    firstly, thanks to everyone for their thoughts and comments, I really enjoy reading this site. I thought I would list some feedback on some regular posters here:

    Worst Commenter – easy decision – Penny. I don’t bother to read anything she writes and I doubt anyone else does either. Someone nailed her for unpaid rates a couple of weeks ago, which was gold.

    Best Sprayer of Bile and Venom – another easy one – Red. I will probably get called a fucking communist retard for saying so…

    Most prolific user of the term Braying Fools – Reid. Maybe time to find something new?

    Most Religious – Andrei. Too hard out for me, I always find it strange that religious types want to control other ppls lives when what others are doing is not really impacting on them, but anyway…

    Most Consistent User of Emoticons – Johnboy. Congratulations (would put smiley face with sunglasses but don’t know how, and don’t really want to find out).

    My Favourite Commenter – Dime. Hodor really looks forward to your posts.

    Thats it. I am sure you will all let me know your thoughts!

    Lastly, would anyone really be sad if Titewhai Harawira [deleted by DPF: Don't advocate harm to others please]

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  24. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    Andrei, the numbers show the reality is that we live in far more enlightened times than those of strict dogma, control and discrimination that you seem to want to cling to. You’re even becoming isolated from mainstream modern Christan thinking.

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  25. CHFR (227 comments) says:

    I am sick of John Minto and his self publicity. And the old addage about every man who is his own lawyer, has a fool for a client seems appropriate.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8267524/John-Minto-Police-singled-me-out

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  26. CHFR (227 comments) says:

    Pete the numbers show first world issues. We are about to drown in a sea of red ink and the pollies think gay marriage is an issue. Seriously most of us who are opposed are sick of people like you who claim to be ‘enlightened” calling us bigots for not agreeing with you.

    Bread and circuses spring to mind.

    Azeraph you sir are a fool.

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  27. mandk (968 comments) says:

    Pete George @ 8.36.
    I’m quite happy to recognise differences. That’s why I think marriage should be for heterosexuals and homosexuals should have a different institution.

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  28. TheContrarian (1,085 comments) says:

    @Big Bruv:

    1. The rest of the world has never heard of the All Blacks
    – Patently false. I have traveled all over the world and even in the slums of Mexico City I had a homeless guy praise Jonah Lomu

    2. Everybody else wonders why your sense of dress is so drab given that you wear a black rugby jersey everywhere.
    – I have rarely seen (outside Western Europe) seen Kiwi’s wearing rugby jerseys.

    3. They wonder why you are wearing a piece of last nights roast chicken dinner on a bit of string around your neck.
    – Err, you mean a bone carving? Considering bone is worn by many cultures I don’t know what you are getting at.

    4. Roast Lamb is nothing more than that, Europe does not have a party and celebrate NZ everytime they sit down to a roast lamb dinner.
    – All the best restaurants I have been in feature NZ Lamb and wine near the top of the price list

    5. Read same for NZ wine, yes they drink it but they don’t have a party because it comes from NZ.
    – It is usually extremely expensive

    6. Most people have no bloody idea where we are…and it does not matter nor is it an insult, we simply are not on their radar.
    – True.

    7. Dame Kiri who?
    – True

    8. Nobody “gets” the Haka, they think it is a rain dance and looks silly.
    – In South Africa they love the haka (whites especially). As do the Yanks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haka_performed_by_non-New_Zealand_sports_teams)

    9. Nobody knows nor cares that we are nuclear free.
    – not sure about this

    10. We are seen as perennial moaners and under achievers.
    – NZers are known in Western Europe and the states as hard workers.

    11. Everybody thinks we are Australian.
    – Most, not everyone

    12. Wonders why so many of us are overseas if all we can do is insult our host country by telling them how much better NZ is.
    – No idea what you are talking about.

    13. If they do ever visit, those from overseas walk around Palmerston North wondering where the beach is because everybody they met from Palmy told them that all Kiwis lived at the beach. They also wonder why our weather is not a lot better than what they have in the UK.
    – 75% of all NZ lives within 10k of the sea.

    Have you ever been overseas?

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  29. Griff (7,517 comments) says:

    Christian and thinking in the same sentence PG?
    Don’t you mean Christians and the blind belief in the Jesus zombie myth of ancient goat herders.

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  30. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    CHFR – I didn’t call anyone a bigot. Andre is more like a smallot, minded-wise.

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  31. TheContrarian (1,085 comments) says:

    @P.George

    Andrei once said he had a Christian “live and let live” attitude…so he/she is a liar too.

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  32. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    Mike attended dawn service at upper marae, conducted mostly in New Zealand’s two official languages, Maori and Sign. Astonishingly, English is not an official language of New Zealand!

    (Now that’s interesting)

    It’s time to stand up for truth

    I’ve come here, to Waitangi, as a proud fifth generation indigenous New Zealander.

    Or at least I’m no less indigenous than others whose forebears also sailed here many generations ago from distant islands.

    http://treatygate.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/its-time-to-stand-up-for-truth/#comments

    http://treatygate.wordpress.com/

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  33. Andrei (2,570 comments) says:

    Andrei, the numbers show the reality is that we live in far more enlightened times than those of strict dogma, control and discrimination that you seem to want to cling to.

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    Matey modern “Great” Britain is ruled by strict dogma enforced by the police and courts, where just speaking your mind on a train can see you imprisoned, or displaying the New Testament on a screen in your very own cafe can earn you a visit from the police and so forth.

    By golly only the other day the BBC saw fit to censor an old TV comedy because it no longer conformed with the expected mores of the age.

    Enlightened? I think not, more like off their trolleys.

    …..discrimination that you seem to want to cling to

    What “discrimination”? That is empty sloganizing. “Gays” cannot procreate, marriage is about forming procreative couples, always has been and always will, despite legislators in fantasy land passing bills.

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  34. TheContrarian (1,085 comments) says:

    ” “Gays” cannot procreate, marriage is about forming procreative couples, always has been and always will, despite legislators in fantasy land passing bills.”

    So people who are sterile shouldn’t be married either?

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  35. Left Right and Centre (2,971 comments) says:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8268894/Teen-killed-evading-police

    *The 17-year-old driver was thrown from the vehicle and died at the scene.*

    Now that’s what I’m talking about.

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  36. CHFR (227 comments) says:

    Pete you prove my point…numpty

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  37. kowtow (8,323 comments) says:

    Sofia et al, “pakeha” etc

    The media are pushing this nonsense and often use the term.( I suspect they were told to) Govt and education are well into it. Social engineeriing from the elites who know best.Note the insistence on Maori pronounciation of place names like OH ah maru on news broadcasts.
    Whenever possible this elitist nonsense should be highlighted and resisted.

    Happy New Zealand Day.

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  38. Andrei (2,570 comments) says:

    You’re even becoming isolated from mainstream modern Christan thinking.

    Another Pete Georgeism of breathtaking ignorance.

    Of course he can look to NZ Anglicanism for validation of this point of view: Church edges closer to same-sex blessings but these people are way out of step with the vast majority of Anglicans in the world and NZ Anglicanism is dying anyway.

    This topic is not even on the radar in Orthodox Christianity and hardly at all in Catholic Christianity which are what mainstream Christianity is

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  39. Azeraph (604 comments) says:

    CHFR (103) Says:
    February 6th, 2013 at 9:15 am

    There is always a way to dismantle something or to swap allegiances. Take the superbowl, it got media coverage here for over half an hour the other night. I don’t know about you but another countries game that isn’t a world game get’s that much coverage and does anyone understand it here? Soccer which is a world game gets about 5 minutes and yet American football gets half an hour.

    So, are we Kiwi’s or do you want to become Americans?

    Compared to soccer how big is American football on the world stage? 1%?

    What ever happened to the great british comedy, now it’s just some strange sci fi law enforcement programs that dupe people into believing that crime can be solved in a lab in ten minutes.

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  40. Left Right and Centre (2,971 comments) says:

    here’s another genius that’s playing chicken in a better place now….

    *Miller was hit by the train and was carried some distance down the line.*

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8267578/Man-killed-by-train-after-game-of-chicken

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  41. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    “Gays” cannot procreate.

    Wrong. They can and do procreate.

    Priests aren’t supposed to procreate, but they can and do.

    Celibates don’t intend to procreate, but they can get married. I don’t think celibacy is condemned as unnatural although it’s less natural than homosexuality, it is actually a real choice.

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  42. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    kowtow;

    Did you know;
    Mike attended dawn service at upper marae, conducted mostly in New Zealand’s two official languages, Maori and Sign. Astonishingly, English is not an official language of New Zealand!

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  43. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    Andre, there is strong parliamentary and poll support for gay marriage. A lot of people are Christian so many Christians must be in favour.

    When I referred to mainstream Christian I was talking about the main bulk of Christians, ordinary people who live in the real world amongsat the rest of us.

    Religious head offices are not mainstream, they struggle more and more to keep up with the modern flow of opinion.

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  44. mandk (968 comments) says:

    Here’s one for a those who think homosexual marriage is a fight against oppression and discrimination. It’s just an absurdity.

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  45. Azeraph (604 comments) says:

    I don’t understand why the Anglican organization did what they did.

    They’re outside now.

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  46. Dean Papa (784 comments) says:

    “They wonder why you are wearing a piece of last nights roast chicken dinner on a bit of string around your neck.”

    TMML

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  47. Nookin (3,282 comments) says:

    “English is not an official language of New Zealand!”

    Yes it is and always has been. Special legislation was passed to designate Maori and sign as official languages.

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  48. mandk (968 comments) says:

    Pete George “Andre, there is strong parliamentary and poll support for gay marriage. A lot of people are Christian so many Christians must be in favour.”
    Solipsism

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  49. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    “They wonder why you are wearing a piece of last nights roast chicken dinner on a bit of string around your neck.”

    Or a lump of rock that is used to weigh the brain down.

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  50. Dean Papa (784 comments) says:

    “I have traveled all over the world and even in the slums of Mexico City I had a homeless guy praise Jonah Lomu”

    I can’t decide if this is a sarcastic remark, or is it a genuine observation?

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  51. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    Nookin. apparently its not. Its like us, here because we are.

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  52. Scott Chris (6,060 comments) says:

    The word pakehaha is derogatory and a bloody insult as far as I am concerned.

    [my emphasis]

    Corrupting a language that is deemed sacred by many of its speakers is also considered to be a bloody insult. Kind of ironic really.

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  53. TheContrarian (1,085 comments) says:

    @Dean

    It was genuine.

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  54. Nookin (3,282 comments) says:

    To be “official” does not necessarily require statutory foundation. Try telling the courts that English is not an official language and you are not prepared to converse in English, in Court

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  55. Scott Chris (6,060 comments) says:

    I didn’t call anyone a bigot. Andre is more like a smallot, minded-wise.

    What’s an ot?

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  56. James Stephenson (2,153 comments) says:

    So people who are sterile shouldn’t be married either?

    I’m so f-ing tired of this nonsensical response, and the knee-jerk accusations of religious bigotry.

    The complementary union of opposite genders is special and it is different and no amount of grandstanding by political parties trying to prove how “modern” and “right-on” they are is going to change that.

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  57. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    While English may not have been designated offical by legislation like Maori and Sign it appears to be legally accepted as official in other legislation.

    interpretation, in relation to New Zealand Sign Language, means—

    (a) the expression in New Zealand Sign Language of words spoken in English or Maori or both; and

    (b) the oral expression in English or Maori or both of messages expressed in New Zealand Sign Language

    http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2006/0018/latest/DLM372761.html

    And…

    Maori Language Act 1987
    interpretation, in relation to the Maori language, means the oral expression in English of words spoken in Maori and the oral expression in Maori of words spoken in English

    http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1987/0176/latest/DLM124124.html

    English is legal entrenched.

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  58. Left Right and Centre (2,971 comments) says:

    ot:

    It’s a mystery… apparently they come in sizes though… small, medium and big….

    bigot = big prejudice

    medot = fair to middling prejudice

    smallot = small prejudice

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  59. TheContrarian (1,085 comments) says:

    @James Stephenson

    I never said religious bigotry. Andrei said the purpose of marriage is to procreate, suggesting that is why homosexuals shouldn’t marry. So the natural question is “what about people who are sterile, celibate or choose not to have children? Should they also be denied marriage?

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  60. Andrei (2,570 comments) says:

    Pete George, have you ever been outside of New Zealand, spent any time in a country where they don’t speak English?

    The world is a much bigger place than you realize and the center of the Universe is not Wellington

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  61. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    What a great idea…

    A great idea from Aussie union leader Dave Oliver; transferable work benefits. The ACTU want workers to take leave and other entitlements with them when they change jobs. Nice reminder of what a plonker Tony Abbott is, too.

    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/union-fight-on-work-rights-20130205-2dwn7.html

    …not. That is devoid of any understanding of business. Transferring the liabilities of one business to another – which is what transferring entitlements means – is crazy.

    What next? Preventing employers from discriminating against those applying for jobs who have entitlements/liabilities?

    Leave entitlements are dealt with now. If you resign from a job you get all outstanding annual leave paid up, so your entitlement is fully paid up.

    Time in Lieu would be ludicrous to carry over.

    Bereavement Leave entitlement is available regardless – it would be ludicrous to accumulate leave for all your grannies dying and then take that entitlement to a new job.

    Sick leave is part of your contract entitlements.

    But in any case if you get a new job you can always try negotiating carried over entitlements into your contract.

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  62. Left Right and Centre (2,971 comments) says:

    Is Seven Sharp turning into the worst ever programme to screen at 7pm in decades?

    How long before it gets canned?

    What’s the mood like at TVNZ knowing that the general consensus is that it’s a big fat juicy lemon flop of the highest order?

    How clueless are these highly paid morons?

    And can you bring yourself to watch TV3 with some grinning chipmonk who looks so far left he can kiss himself on the right cheek….

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  63. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    Defintion of bigot:

    a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

    Origin:
    1590–1600; < Middle French ( Old French: derogatory name applied by the French to the Normans), perhaps < Old English bī God by God

    We can make up our own minds who we think that might be applicable to.

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  64. James Stephenson (2,153 comments) says:

    I never said religious bigotry

    No you didn’t, but I was on the subject of boring arguments by advocates of legislating to ignore the blindingly obvious, so I chucked it in for good measure.

    I’m guessing that, now this legislation has passed in the UK, we will start to see the same forces that pushed this through start to work to sideline the words “husband” and “wife” in favour of the neutral “partner”…it’ll be a double win, getting rid of words that discriminate between genders as well as against teh gayz at the same time.

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  65. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    “now this legislation has passed in the UK”

    No, it has only passed the first vote in the House of Commons.

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  66. Left Right and Centre (2,971 comments) says:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/columnists/chris-trotter/8247430/Our-future-as-a-nation-is-bleak-if-we-do-not-eliminate-the-Tail

    *The task would be easier if the Tail was entirely white – but it is not. Overwhelmingly, the ethnic composition of the Tail is Maori and Pasifika.*

    Why is it that PI folks don’t match white folks across all income bands?

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  67. Andrei (2,570 comments) says:

    Definition of Bore

    One that is wearingly dull, repetitive, or tedious.

    We can make up our own minds who we think that might be applicable to.

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  68. cha (3,943 comments) says:

    RIP Reg Presley

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  69. Elaycee (4,375 comments) says:

    Pete George:

    Defintion of bigot: …a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions…

    You’re being a bit harsh on yourself, aren’t you Pete? :D

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  70. questions (198 comments) says:

    http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/020413_DOJ_White_Paper.pdf

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  71. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    That would be very harsh Elaycee. Maybe those who say I’m a wishy washy fence sitter (the total opposite of obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions) will jump to my defence,

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  72. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    NZ Police ‏@BetterWorkStory

    Back at station I noted a big lump on the forehead of a burglary suspect.
    “Wen yous cops showed up I got a fright, ran straight into a tree”

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  73. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    On our national day here is a remeinder about our near neighbours.

    http://screencast.com/t/ayBRKWi6gHF

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  74. Manolo (13,580 comments) says:

    It promises to be an interesting trip: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/02/05/obama-to-visit-israel-for-first-time-as-president/

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  75. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/teen-dies-after-police-pursuit-in-hamilton-5334910

    Headline should read:

    “Teen after failing to pull over and stop as required by the laws of the land , instead is a smart arse, does a runner and unfortunately kills himself “.

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  76. Longknives (4,690 comments) says:

    “Only when you leave NZ are you shocked into reality, you quickly find out that….
    1. The rest of the world has never heard of the All Blacks”

    But Bruv- Martin Snedden kept banging on that the Rugby World Cup was the third biggest sports event ever! (Even though the stadiums were half empty for quarter finals and the event generated little or no media coverage overseas etc) Surely he wouldn’t lie to us??

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  77. Longknives (4,690 comments) says:

    The Contrarian- So the Homeless people of Central/South America worship the mighty All Blacks eh?? I have travelled extensively through South America- if only I knew wearing an All Black jersey, a fake tiki, and doing a googly eyed/tongue poking haka would see me safely through the ‘Favelas’…..

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  78. thedavincimode (6,710 comments) says:

    What a bunch of grumpy humourless old gits.

    People will start thinking of KB as a home for sad angry old men who just want to shout at their keyboards. Hard to believe I know, but … !!

    ” … mmmerrrrr … life’s a bitch, I hate the gummint … I hate murris … I hate myself … I hate my life … I want David Shearer to completely fuck the economy so the exchange rate will go down… mmmmerrr .. :( :( :(”

    Instead, do what I did yesterday: buy the Celebration Day DVD and chill TFO watching it with a soothing libation at hand. Orrrrrrrrrr …….. ssssaaaaaarrrrmmmmm!

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  79. wreck1080 (3,884 comments) says:

    Tsunami watch in effect … i wonder why nz civil defense does not have this on the main webpage?

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  80. Reid (16,290 comments) says:

    What a bunch of grumpy humourless old gits.

    Perhaps we just don’t enough flags. The US has the right idea. Flags are bright and gay, aren’t they, they’ll cheer everyone up no end. Imagine if the govt passed a law saying every single property had to always fly a flag. It doesn’t matter which it is, but it must fly. Imagine how gay that would be. What fun just driving even short distances would become.

    And we could make it compulsory for everyone to let off at least three large firework rockets every month or so, just to light up the night in a similarly gay way.

    Then we wouldn’t be grumpy or humourless, would we. How could we be with all that going on, all the time?

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  81. All_on_Red (1,581 comments) says:

    Why is the Maori separatists flag flying on the Auckland Harbour bridge? I thought this was a day of unity.
    Fuck you Len Brown
    Methinks John Ansell is right.

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  82. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    NZ ship found after WW2 sinking
    10:51 AM Wednesday Feb 6, 2013

    The wreckage of New Zealand cargo ship the MV Limerick has been found off the New South Wales coast almost 70 years after it was torpedoed by Japanese submarines during World War II.

    The New Zealand-owned ship was part of a coastal convoy from Sydney to Brisbane when it was struck by a torpedo at 1am on Anzac Day in 1943.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10863763

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  83. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    hedavincimode (4,426) Says:
    February 6th, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    What a bunch of grumpy humourless old gits.

    People will start thinking of KB as a home for sad angry old men who just want to shout at their keyboards. Hard to believe I know, but … !!

    ” … mmmerrrrr … life’s a bitch, I hate the gummint … I hate murris … I hate myself … I hate my life … I want David Shearer to completely fuck the economy so the exchange rate will go down… mmmmerrr .. :( :( :(

    Instead, do what I did yesterday: buy the Celebration Day DVD and chill TFO watching it with a soothing libation IN hand. Orrrrrrrrrr …….. ssssaaaaaarrrrmmmmm!
    ————————————–

    There fixed that.:lol:

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  84. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    Mainzeal goes into receivership
    Updated 3:30 PM Wednesday Feb 6, 2013

    Mainzeal Property and Construction – one of New Zealand’s largest construction companies – has gone into receivership.

    In a statement issued this afternoon, Mainzeal director Richard Yan said the company could no longer continue trading due to a “series of events that had adversely affected the company’s financial position”, combined with a general decline in commercial construction activity and lack of shareholder support.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10863801

    Ah the great General Shipley. Like her mate Ruth. All mouth and trousers.

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  85. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    If a wave were to hit New Zealand the estimated arrival times would be: North Cape, 6.05pm; Auckland west, 7.06pm; Auckland east, 7.47pm; East Cape, 7.15pm; Gisborne, 7.39pm; New Plymouth, 7.51pm; Wellington, 8.03pm; Milford Sound, 8.20pm; Napier, 8.27pm; Westport, 8.30pm.

    Well the hori’s had better quit the beach up northin a bit of a hurry.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/8269589/Magnitude-8-quake-hits-off-Solomon-Islands

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  86. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    All-girl rockers disband after cleric’s edict
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    Last updated 14:47 06/02/2013

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    Indian rock band Pragaash, meaning ‘first light’ in English, breaks up after a cleric’s edict.

    The first all-girl rock band in Indian-controlled Kashmir has decided to disband after only one concert because of threats its teenage members received on social media and a demand from a top Muslim cleric that they stop performing.

    The fate of Pragaash, which means ‘First Light’ in Kashmiri, highlights the simmering tension between modernity and tradition in Muslim-majority Kashmir, where an armed uprising against Indian rule and a relentless crackdown by government forces have killed more than 68,000 people since 1989.

    Separatists criticised the band for what it said was ‘‘Western-style cultural waywardness’’.
    —————————
    More peace, goodwill and enlightment from the savage religion.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/8269598/All-girl-rockers-disband-after-clerics-edict

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  87. Reid (16,290 comments) says:

    For those few aware who know what Madonna’s ad really was at last year’s Superbowl, this is the one from this year.

    http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/the-2013-mercedes-super-bowl-commercial/

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  88. Manolo (13,580 comments) says:

    That’s very sad news, Viking2.
    Mainzeal is (was) one of the largest in the field.

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  89. thedavincimode (6,710 comments) says:

    Reid

    How many copies of Catcher in the Rye do you have?

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  90. thedavincimode (6,710 comments) says:

    It’s the Government’s fault Manolo – all these anti-inflationary policies.

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  91. kowtow (8,323 comments) says:

    that’s a good one

    dawinci moaning about moaners ,when he’s one of the first to hit the keyboard when there’s any Catholic bashing to be done!

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  92. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    Wednesday, 6 February 2013
    Something is rotten in the state of Denmark

    Denmark rarely makes the news here in New Zealand, except perhaps when the left want to point out how it, along with Sweden is an example of a modern and ‘successful’ socialist state. However, these days ‘something is rotten in the state of Denmark’ as Shakespeare’s Marcellus was inclined to say.

    Yesterday a prominent critic of Islam, seventy-year-old Lars Hedegaard survived an assassination attempt as he answered the doorbell at his home. A gunman pretending to be a postman fired a shot at his head, and missed. The gun jammed, a scuffle ensued and the assailant escaped.
    http://brendanslongblog.blogspot.co.nz/2013/02/something-is-rotten-in-state-of-denmark.html

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  93. Reid (16,290 comments) says:

    How useful is 3D printing going to become? Scientists have produced human stem cells using it.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/130204220838.htm

    Presumably eventually by inserting your DNA into the cells you’ll be able to grow your very own body part.

    Crikey.

    How many copies of Catcher in the Rye do you have?

    I’ve never owned one. Somehow I probably knew how I’d turn out and I didn’t want to leave a paper trail. But seriously, you know what the Madonna ad was? I mean just look at it.

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  94. thedavincimode (6,710 comments) says:

    Why kowtow, you do me an injustice. Some of my best friends and indeed family are Catholics. In fact you do them an injustice too, because they aren’t tiny-minded racist bigots completely lacking in self-awareness.

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  95. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    Milk up 2.4% in GDT auction

    The trade weighted index increased 2.4% in this morning’s GlobalDairyTrade auction.

    This is the fourth price gain in succession.

    GDT Trade Weighted Index Changes

    GDT feb 6The increase is particularly good news as this was the first auction since news broke of tiny traces of the nitrogen inhibitor DCD being found in some milk products.Even though there was no food safety risk there was a perception risk but that doesn’t seem to have impacted on demand.Price changes: Anydrous milk fat was up 7.2%; butter milk powder increased 3.7%; cheddar was down .1%; milk protein concentrate was up 1.2%; rennet casein increased 3.3%; skim milk powder increased .5% and whole milk powder, which has the biggest impact on the farm gate price, increased 5.4%.

    http://homepaddock.wordpress.com/2013/02/06/milk-up-2-4-in-gdt-auction/

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  96. Manolo (13,580 comments) says:

    Actually, davinci attacks whoever disagrees with Labour lite’s masterful policies. He’s the ultimate John Key fan. :D

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  97. thedavincimode (6,710 comments) says:

    So what did you think of his speech at Camp Hatfield Manolo?

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  98. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    MANOLO That’s politics for ya. All weve been hearing from the lady lately is why we should have m ore women in high places. apparently its so you can go broke quicker.

    Mainzeal have been building the Rotorua Hospital Block. Staff have said its a dog of a thing cf Tauranga. Leaked and all.

    Politicans are builders not.

    Wonder if said Lady will resign from her China bank job now.
    Karma in a way. After what she did to health and beneficiaries with the help of that other failing business woman from the south.
    Must be the water they grow up in. I mean add the Hubards and there’s lots of dosh down the tubes.

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  99. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    yep dvi and KS are the base camp followers on planet key.

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  100. RF (1,380 comments) says:

    Re Mainzeal. Could prove interesting for our Christchurch friends who suffered Earthquake Damage and are insured with Vero. Mainzeal are project managing their insurance claims.

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  101. Reid (16,290 comments) says:

    You know who that guy is next to Braun? A German electrical engineer who designed a power station at a secret research centre in Poland in WWII. Braun made him a Flight Controller.

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  102. Johnboy (16,077 comments) says:

    Viking2 (8,736) Says:
    February 6th, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    Bah. Humbug.

    Anyway I have hopes that Lucia Maria will warm to me! :)

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  103. Azreal (15 comments) says:

    Leftist language alert! (10:57am)
    Pacifika
    Only 30 years after Amerika fizzled out

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  104. RF (1,380 comments) says:

    Up date for the good people in Christchurch who are insured with Vero. Business as usual as the Mainzeal collapse will not affect Vero claims. My reliable source advises that Mainzeal Property and Construction are separate to the EQ partnership with Vero.

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  105. big bruv (13,725 comments) says:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10863719

    It is a good thing that Kiwis are starting to hit back at the bludgers and parasites. Long may bene bashing continue.

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  106. Johnboy (16,077 comments) says:

    Is Paula your sister BB? :)

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  107. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4779302/The-Troggs-frontman-Reg-Presley-dies-aged-71.html

    Who hasn’t played air guitar to “Wild Thing”?

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  108. big bruv (13,725 comments) says:

    Johnboy

    Nah, but she is not bad for a westie.

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  109. TheContrarian (1,085 comments) says:

    @Longknives – “So the Homeless people of Central/South America worship the mighty All Blacks eh??”

    Yeah I never said that.

    Reread the comments and try again. You ain’t stupid.

    Better luck next time.

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  110. wreck1080 (3,884 comments) says:

    “One of New Zealand’s larger building groups Mainzeal Property and Construction has collapsed into receivership.”

    Unbelievable, I’d love to know the reasons.

    Given that christchurch is being rebuilt you’d think that an experienced construction company would have their order books completely full with lucrative contracts.

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  111. Johnboy (16,077 comments) says:

    Maybe someone X-rayed the joints in some of the stuff thrown up in Wellington before the 87 crash?

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  112. nasska (11,277 comments) says:

    Remind you of any organisations you’ve worked for?

    Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/sk3um0oilzr9hjr/CEO.jpg

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  113. thedavincimode (6,710 comments) says:

    What a superb catch. And it would have been so easy for him to touch the boundary rope.

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  114. Johnboy (16,077 comments) says:

    We always give complementary umbrella’s to the lower rank and file. :)

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  115. thedavincimode (6,710 comments) says:

    … better make that two …

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  116. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    An engineer dies and reports to hell.

    Pretty soon, the engineer gets dissatisfied with the level of comfort in hell, and starts designing and building improvements.
    After a while, they’ve got air conditioning and flushing toilets and escalators, and the engineer is a pretty popular guy.
    One day God calls Satan up on the telephone and says with a sneer, “So, how’s it going down there in hell?”
    Satan replies, “Hey things are going great. We’ve got air conditioning and flushing toilets and escalators, and there’s no telling what this engineer is going to come up with next.”
    God replies, “What??? You’ve got an engineer? That’s a mistake — he should never have gotten down there; send him up here.”
    Satan says, “No way. I like having an engineer on the staff, and I’m keeping him.”
    God says, “Send him back up here or I’ll sue.”

    Satan laughs uproariously and answers, “Yeah, right. And just where are you going to get a lawyer?

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  117. nasska (11,277 comments) says:

    My dream job of driving trucks in Australia turned into a nightmare when I broke down in the outback hundreds of kilometres from civilisation.

    After three days the water ran out and I started drinking my own urine. After another three days I could no longer recycle my piss and realised I was out of options and had to accept the inevitable.

    So I opened some of the Fosters I was delivering.

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  118. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    Sonny Bill to quit if he loses

    Sonny Bill Williams says he has “no future” in boxing if he loses Friday’s fight with Francois Botha in Brisbane while the South African says Williams is “going to get hurt”. (01:55)

    http://media.smh.com.au/sport/sports-hq/sonny-bill-to-quit-if-he-loses-4007582.html

    What a surprise.

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  119. Johnboy (16,077 comments) says:

    Anyone whose parents were so thick they could only name him “Sonny” was born a loser! :)

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  120. thedavincimode (6,710 comments) says:

    V2

    What’s happening here? When did you decide to become a low rent version of Stuff & The Herald? :(

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  121. Left Right and Centre (2,971 comments) says:

    Sale of Liquour Act 1989…..

    Is a licensee required by law to ask for proof of age before closing a sale?

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  122. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    Getting beaten by a 44 year old would not be a great look.

    Is the league team he’s going to play for in a golden oldies competiton?

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  123. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    All there for your edification DVM.

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  124. dime (9,856 comments) says:

    “Getting beaten by a 44 year old would not be a great look.”

    Dime found that out the hard way. But she had a big rack and was dressed in fetish gear…

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  125. Griff (7,517 comments) says:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/feb/05/two-police-units-dead-children-ids
    Second police spy unit stole dead children’s IDs

    Met police’s deputy assistant commissioner admits to Commons committee that both units broke internal guidelines.

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  126. thedavincimode (6,710 comments) says:

    Thanks for that Griff.

    When did you decide to branch out from reporting on clicking on links to global warming?

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  127. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    http://screencast.com/t/EISx84UdJ

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  128. nasska (11,277 comments) says:

    European inter-country relationships for beginners:

    Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/oilgfc2kdoxiso0/Geopolitics.jpg

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  129. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    “Teen after failing to pull over and stop as required by the laws of the land , instead is a smart arse, does a runner and unfortunately kills himself “.

    N.Z legislation is not the law of the land, common law is. Driver legislation only applies to persons in the civil sense, not people in the common law sense, who have the right of ordinary use of public roads.

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  130. Viking2 (11,413 comments) says:

    ‘God made a farmer’

    Here’s a video for all farmers – one that got 2.2 million views in the past 2 days

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  131. Longknives (4,690 comments) says:

    “Getting beaten by a 44 year old would not be a great look.”

    Botha is a 44 year old journeyman who has been easily beaten by every top fighter he has faced- but on ability he would destroy SBW in a couple of rounds.
    Why? Botha is a genuine experienced professional-not some showpony All Black flexing his biceps, boxing part-time, and living out his Sugar Ray fantasies against paid actors (see Clarence Tillman)..
    But wait a minute- Botha has financial problems..and Mundine, Nasser and co would not have signed this fight unless there was some ‘agreement’ that made this apparent mismatch worthwhile.
    I therefore predict an early knockout to Sonny Bill, the self professed “Greatest since Ali”, and a whole lot of bullshit media hype proclaiming him as the next World Champ.
    But the Klitschkos won’t lose much sleep….

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