So your problem is comprehension. That is twice now you have quoted the same words from me, claiming them to state that I view the masses as ignorant, when they very clearly say no such thing.

“Even when” are very important words in that statement Kea. I empathize that you struggle to grasp them.

How will we choose who rules ?

“Rules” is the wrong term to use – “governs” would be better.

We are a constitutional monarchy with a House of Representatives elected every 3 years. The monarchs’ powers are limited by what they can do without the support of Parliament. In our everyday reality, if not the letter of constitution, NZ is a government “of the people, by the people, for the people” [Although technically and legally it can be argued otherwise.]

The process of determining that government is an election every 3 years which provides for representative democracy. Which, as I pointed out early on yesterday, is the system I support.

Meanwhile seven metres of global warming …. in white!

http://notrickszone.com/2013/02/08/french-ski-resort-shuts-down-because-of-too-much-snow/

Do you agree with bhudson that the majority are ignorant masses who will not respect the rights of minorities and someone (he refused to say who) should be in control of those masses ?

I said no such thing

bhudson, You said.

“Which also then allows for rule by ignorance – the will of the majority being right, even when founded in ignorance and prejudice.”

So back to my question… if the masses don’t get to “rule” who does ?

How will we choose who rules ? ( using your example of the ignorant prejudiced majority, we clearly can not let “them” decide for themselves, now can we)

And please, don’t further erode your remaining credibility by making up silly stories that I am all for trampling the rights of precious minorities. I never said that and specifically have said I am not. That is a red hearing your throwing up to remove focus from your elitist thinking that only a selected few should decide for the rest of us,( least we become ignorant and prejudiced.)

if individual rights are affected then the views of the majority are irrelevent.

A remarkable statement, but at least you had the guts to admit your despicable view.

It seems that if some (minority) right is affected, then the majority are ” irrelevent”. Wow !

And you should not take people for fools, bhudson contempt for the masses came across crystal clear and was clearly expressed. Just like you, he thinks minorities hold some sort of higher ground and the rights of the majority are “irrelevent” because they are ignorant. I am still waiting to hear who decides these things, if not the “irrelevant” ignorant masses ?

2004: Warmist scientist Peter Cox says global warming will destroy Amazonian rainforests:
DR PETER COX (Hadley Centre, Met Office): … If we don’t do anything by about twenty thirty we could have a global warming of exceeding two degrees… 2040 it could be four degrees warmer, the climate change could have led to big drying particularly in the Amazon Basin, that would make the forest unsustainable, we’d expect the forest to catch fire probably, turn into savannah and maybe ultimately even desert if it gets really really dry as our model suggests.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/dimming_trans.shtml

2013: Warmist scientist Peter Cox says global warming will help Amazonian rainforests:
The Amazon rainforest is less vulnerable to die off because of global warming than widely believed because the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide also acts as an airborne fertilizer, a study showed on Wednesday.

The boost to growth from CO2, the main gas from burning fossil fuels blamed for causing climate change, was likely to exceed damaging effects of rising temperatures this century such as drought, it said.

“I am no longer so worried about a catastrophic die-back due to CO2-induced climate change,” Professor Peter Cox of the University of Exeter in England told Reuters of the study he led in the journal Nature. “In that sense it’s good news.”…

“CO2 fertilization will beat the negative effect of climate change so that forests will continue to accumulate carbon throughout the 21st century,” Cox said of the findings with other British-based researchers.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/06/us-climate-amazon-idUSBRE91510O20130206

Only if you put most of the blackcaps and the coach down there with him.

The Don King story is so good it deserves to be true

I am referring to those situations where not all people can have their way, as that is not always possible.”

Again, if individual rights are affected then the views of the majority are irrelevent.

Of course there are always grey areas, but that principle is the starting point and covers most situations.

“Do you agree with bhudson that the majority are ignorant masses who will not respect the rights of minorities and someone (he refused to say who) should be in control of those masses ?”

Seeing as he didn’t say any such thing I wonder what you are trying to achieve here.

” Australian newspaper’s report that ANBF vice-president Alan Moore, a ringside judge for the bout, had no idea it had been shortened to 10 rounds.
“When the ring announcer said over the loud speaker that it was the last round, that was the first we (judges) knew of any change,” Moore was quoted as saying.
“Any international title fight is meant to be fought over 12 three-minute rounds. I have no idea what happened.”

Pathetic. This is the most laughable thing I have seen in over 25 years of watching boxing…

Also

Today, 58 global central banks belong to the BIS, and it has far more power over how the U.S. economy (or any other economy for that matter) will perform over the course of the next year than any politician does.

But I you will probably do as bhudson did and ignore the difficult questions that expose the flaws in your logic.

@Kea,

You have no logic. Merely fatuous arguments designed to try to justify tyranny of the majority as somehow compatible with freedom.

Do you agree with bhudson that the majority are ignorant masses who will not respect the rights of minorities and someone (he refused to say who) should be in control of those masses ?

I said no such thing (as one of your earlier quote demonstrated – “even if” somehow eluding you.) Either you struggle with comprehension, or twisting words is your forte. Either way, you misrepresent what was said.

His wife looked shocked, “I can’t believe you just asked me that in front of the whole pub!”

“Really?” he replied. “I can’t believe you thought I was talking to you. Come on Ron.. Let’s get out of here.”