Good luck with that

February 18th, 2013 at 12:00 pm by David Farrar

Tracy McVeigh at NZ Herald reports:

Small, volcanic, with a proud Viking heritage and run by an openly gay Prime Minister, is now considering becoming the first democracy in the Western world to try to ban online pornography.

Yeah, that will work.

Ministers are considering the results. “We are a progressive, liberal society when it comes to nudity, to sexual relations, so our approach is not anti-sex but anti-violence. This is about children and gender equality not about limiting free speech,” she said.

“Research shows the average age of children who see online is 11 in Iceland and we are concerned about that and about the increasing violent nature of what they are exposed to. This is concern coming to us from professionals since mainstream has become very brutal.

Brutal? Has it? I think this needs a huge research project with lost of taxpayer funding to investigate.

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18 Responses to “Good luck with that”

  1. Harriet (4,972 comments) says:

    But isn’t porn watched in the privacy of ones bedroom?

    Oh I see…..the government is now allowed into your childrens’ bedrooms!

    This may be a good thing -no confusion- no gay teenage suicide!

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  2. eszett (2,408 comments) says:

    They already seem to have banned off-line porn:

    An online ban would complement Iceland’s existing law against printing and distributing porn, and follow on from 2010 legislation which closed strip clubs and 2009 prostitution laws that criminalised the customer rather than the sex worker.

    I guess that has caused demand for online porn to skyrocket even more than in other countries.

    I wonder why “run by an openly gay Prime Minister” would be relevant to this story?

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  3. Harriet (4,972 comments) says:

    Yet the “progressives” scream: “More, more”.

    G.K. Chesterton once wrote –

    “All healthy men, ancient and modern, Eastern and Western, know that there is a certain fury in sex that we cannot afford to inflame and that a certain mystery and awe must forever surround it if we are to remain sane.”

    Given our current sexual insanity, such healthy men seem to be in very short supply. :cool:

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  4. Longknives (4,753 comments) says:

    ” 2010 legislation which closed strip clubs ”

    I wonder if male strippers are also banned?
    Or is that ‘just a bit of harmless fun for the girls’?

    What a strange World we live in these days.

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  5. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    Shouldn’t they be banning porn in Iceland.

    This is where the bankers all got busted and now they being made fools of to cover for the bankers.

    But this, I agree, is a non story

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  6. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    Porn has evolved.

    10 years ago there was hardly any bdsm porn around. There was a lot of regular. Now BDSM porn is everywhere. illegal in NZ i think.

    Gagging is way more prolific than it used to be.

    Cuckold porn has become massive in the last couple of years.

    So yeah, Dime agrees porn is way harsher than it once was.

    Its glorious.

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  7. Andrei (2,656 comments) says:

    Baboushki in the sex shop with holy water

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  8. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    and no one burst into flames none of the product went on fire. the only thing that happened wa some ones property got wet via some tap wat

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  9. krazykiwi (9,186 comments) says:

    I wonder why “run by an openly gay Prime Minister” would be relevant to this story?

    Not sure.

    But I am sure you would found it relevant if the PM were a Christian, and McVeigh had mentioned it.

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  10. gump (1,649 comments) says:

    @Harriet

    The only person who seems to be confused about gay teenagers is you.

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  11. kowtow (8,485 comments) says:

    “Progressive liberal” is code for CONTROL FREAK.

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  12. ChardonnayGuy (1,207 comments) says:

    Scandinavian states do tend to do stupid statist things. Norway is drug prohibitionist, Sweden bans sex work and Finland went through a period of alcohol prohibition.

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  13. davidp (3,581 comments) says:

    They’d need to make sure people weren’t watching porn at home. One way to do this would be to install television cameras in to people’s bedrooms. To finance this monitoring, you could stream the television feed over the internet and ask people to pay to watch it.

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  14. OctagonGrappler (84 comments) says:

    Online porn is turning Men into Boy’s!! The self gratifying nature of it is changing social habits of Men..

    Men are not interested in having relationships with real women anymore, they would rather watch porn.

    Not interested in playing outside, they would rather play video games..

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  15. Reid (16,467 comments) says:

    Online porn is turning Men into Boy’s!

    It’s turning girls into boys as well. Girls watch it too.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/allison-pearson/9821275/Our-daughters-are-abused-by-a-culture-of-porn.html

    A friend’s daughter recently started at a highly regarded boarding school. When her mother asked how she was enjoying the mixed-sex environment, the girl said quietly: “You have to give the boys oral sex or they get cross.” Reeling with shock, the mum protested that her darling daughter did not have to do anything of the sort. “Oh yes you do,” replied the girl. “And you have to shave down there or the boys don’t like it.”

    The girl in question is not some brazen, street-smart sixth-former; she is 14 years old… Teenagers have always had secrets, places where they go to try on their new selves, be it the pages of a padlocked diary or the back row of the movies. But mine is the first generation of parents that has to protect its young not just in the world we can see and hear, but in a parallel, online universe for which we barely know the password. And it’s really tough. Tougher even than we know.

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  16. Adele Keyshia (39 comments) says:

    I think a lot of modern pornography can be hugely detrimental especially to young men. A lot of porn promotes the degradation and exploitation of women for male gratification and for a lot of young men whose first exposure to sex is through pornography , it can be impossible to distinguish between fantasy and reality often giving them unrealistic perceptions of sex. This being said i also believe that some pornography has a hugely beneficial function for many loving relationships and i know of gay teens in particular who have used it as an important tool in discovering they’re sexuality. I think to outright ban all porn including loving erotiac would be to deprive many people of a fantastic relationship aid.

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  17. Reid (16,467 comments) says:

    I once heard a cop on the news say that porn is like a drug, in that it increments, and the “usual” dose becomes quickly parsee and you want more and harder. And that’s exactly what it is.

    Just think of your own experience, if you’ve ever watched it.

    And kids today or both sexes are jumping right into full on penetration sex without any of the softer porn intro like Playboy and Penthouse that was all that was around, when most of us were growing up.

    That’s why Iceland wants to ban it. And why not. It’s not about consenting adults, it’s about how warped and twisted you would be as an adult now, if you had watched that stuff since you were 10-12.

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  18. ChardonnayGuy (1,207 comments) says:

    All right. Let’s be sensible about this. Media effects tend to get blamed for all and sundry, but that’s actually a crude, vulgar, populist and scientifically dodgy perspective. One unsubstantiated nostrum is assuming that children cannot distinguish real from fantasy narratives, which they actually can from about the age of eight or so. The other is that media effects will have ‘greater’ effects than other background factors like parental interaction and communication, peer groups and subcultures, any religious institutions or secular ethical alternatives, educational levels and so on. Putting it bluntly, if you’re parented by drunken, drug abusing dysfunctional drongos, then don’t be surprised by the hideous final outcome. As for smut, let’s be realistic about this. Most guys are exposed to it during their adolescence, and that’s when most people develop strategic reasoning skills. If you want people to develop healthier attitudes toward sexuality, let’s have comprehensive sex education in schools.

    Iceland is on a hiding to nothing if it implements this silly idea. Whatever happened to parental responsibility and personal purchase of filter software if there’s a need?

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