Comments on: Hypcrisy alert

By: Rodders

Rodders — Sat, 16 Feb 2013 03:27:32 +0000

NZ First has always been synonymous with hypocrisy. I recall when their MP, Gilbert Myles used parliamentary privilege to accuse the former MP for Onehunga, Fred Gerbic of unethical behaviour re donations. This is the same Gilbert Myles who has been a JP and now has a conviction for the obstructing the course of justice.

By: Johnboy

Johnboy — Sat, 16 Feb 2013 03:26:44 +0000

Jesus. When JK is scratching to put a coalition together in 2014 I reckon Winnie and Richard Prosser will both be pretty acceptable.

Hypocrisy will take on a whole new meaning here at KB!!

By: Akaroa

Akaroa — Sat, 16 Feb 2013 03:09:20 +0000

Just a couple of points about Winston Peters.

(BTW, I should declare that I”m in my early seventies, so I guess i’m in the demographic from which W Peters is said to garner his most loyal support)

Well, that may be so, but my view of Mr Peters is – I suspect – similar to that of many other people. He gives every indication of being what used to be called a ‘chancer’, and, if you want a definition of that, think ‘Main Chance’. Need I say more?.

However! And there’s always a ‘however’, isn’t there!!

Winston Peters was the man who got the older generation their Seniors Card. And I can tell all you young guys out there that its a very handy bit of plastic to have, believe you me.

So, the bottom line is that although W Peters MP Esq has pulled a few flakey fast ones in his time, he also has a very strong baseline of support from those who have benefitted as a result of his championship of the senior citizens in our midst.

Ergo; continuing support for him is likely for the foreseeable future from a large segment of the older voting public.

(I would here add the disclaimer that nothing in the above should be taken as indicating where my own political loyalties lie!!)

By: PhilP

PhilP — Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:05:14 +0000

Great post DPF – Hypocrisy Alert. I have never liked that lying, thieving Winston Peters even when he was part of the Bolger government. The utter hypocrisy that falls out of his old and now tired mouth knows no bounds. Does he really believe what he
says?…..I guess a monumental fucktard such as he, does. It is really sad that so many (6%) were sucked in at the 2011 election.
Remember this…. The Rt Hon Winston Raymond Peters (that title is not deserving) stole $158,000 of taxpayer money (parliamentary services) and has never repaid it. Oh yes… he fund raised then gave it all away to charity. If I were a charitable recipient I would have told him where he could stick his cash… shame on those charities that accepted.
Of course the REAL REASON for Winnies outbursts are purely to get back at John Key for publicly refusing to work with NZF, but more importantly himself, and JK saying he could not trust him. That had to really hurt Winston and he’s never forgotten.
Build a bridge Winston….time to move on…hate is so damaging and draining.
That’s my rant,

cheers Phil.

By: pq

pq — Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:55:23 +0000

stigie (17) Says:
February 16th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
Peters is just a prick, always throwing around baseless allegations for his own benefit.
I think most people have had a gutsfull of this hypocrite, and as Michael says
a National/NZ First Government makes me feel sick. Hope Key sticks to his word and not
have this bastard in his government!!

pq says ” Stigie friend , add numbers “

By: pq

pq — Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:48:48 +0000

subject vaguely off, probably no demerit points
I met Nicky Wagner [ Christchurch Central MP] today at the supermarket , and I said I told you so we will make you MP, I told you so , and she looked in my face and she was happy, We never spoke about Mainzeal at all

By: hinamanu

hinamanu — Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:45:03 +0000

““the best argument against democracy is a 15 minute conversation with the average voter..”

You’re scared of the Kiwi voter

By: pq

pq — Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:44:06 +0000

You want a conservative Government or not,? if you want good Government you have to look at the figures, don’t worry about NZfirst they are in the bag already, Winston wants Ministerial and so what is the problem

By: Pete George

Pete George — Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:30:14 +0000

DG:

Do you really think the member for Clutha (or his Labour equivalent) would cross the floor on a matter directly affecting his constituents to their detriment, but which was his/her major party policy?

It seems nuts to me that people with the biggest jobs in Government like PM and Minister of Finance should also be supposed to properly represent an electorate. They like to have safe electorates because it suits them but it seems contrary to common sense.

Good electorate MPs may not make the best ministers and the best ministers may not make the best electorate MPs. We have an odd system that has good aspects in theory but is used and abused by MPs and parties to suit themselves far more than their constituents.

By: Reid

Reid — Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:17:21 +0000

It is bloody scary that more than 5% of them (voters) can be continually fooled by the lying prick…

It occurs to me they’re probably the people who do the Neilson ratings or whatever we use over here. That’s why TV News bosses hallucinate that their audience wants more pap and less substance. It has to be. How else can does one explain it?

NZF voters would have to be descendants of those people in the wild west who bought double large bottles of snake oil from just anyone, all the time. And the ones who lived in shacks with their kids dressed in rags even on Sunday, not because they were oppressed but because they were too fucking stupid to look at their neighbours and do what they were doing.

By: David Garrett

David Garrett — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:27:05 +0000

Yes..Peters always reminds me of a lesser known Churchill quote: “the best argument against democracy is a 15 minute conversation with the average voter..” It is bloody scary that more than 5% of them (voters) can be continually fooled by the lying prick…

rightoverlabour: Get with the program man! List MP’s represent everyone… When I was one people from all over the place asked for my assistance, and when I could, I gave it….MMP – like it or loathe it – gives primacy to the party vote…get used to it!

Do you really think the member for Clutha (or his Labour equivalent) would cross the floor on a matter directly affecting his constituents to their detriment, but which was his/her major party policy?

By: radvad

radvad — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:20:27 +0000

“Hope Key sticks to his word and not have this bastard in his government!!”

Ditto

By: stigie

stigie — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:07:16 +0000

Peters is just a prick, always throwing around baseless allegations for his own benefit.
I think most people have had a gutsfull of this hypocrite, and as Michael says
a National/NZ First Government makes me feel sick. Hope Key sticks to his word and not
have this bastard in his government!!
,

By: Judith

Judith — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:16:15 +0000

toad (3,494) Says:
February 16th, 2013 at 11:12 am
@Judith 10:54 am

Shipley resigned as Chair of the Mainzeal board 31 December last year – 6 weeks ago

Thank you.
Something about ‘rats’ and ‘sinking ships’ springs to mind but perhaps I won’t ‘go there’.

By: bringbackdemocracy

bringbackdemocracy — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:15:43 +0000

Winston’s a crook. The only good thing in NZ politics at the moment is the rise of the Conservatives.
In the last Roy Morgan poll the Conservatives were one of only two parties to show an increase in their support.
The Conservatives polled 2% which was more than Act, United,Mana and the Maori party combined!

http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2013/4865/

By: toad

toad — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:12:13 +0000

@Judith 10:54 am

Shipley resigned as Chair of the Mainzeal board 31 December last year – 6 weeks ago

By: Judith

Judith — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:54:38 +0000

Did I read somewhere that Dame Jenny Shipley was also a director and only just recently resigned? Anyone know, I can’t find the information again now.

By: Jack5

Jack5 — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:54:08 +0000

DPF is right that business people as well as others should be able to donate to political candidates, as long as this is open, and presumably the Sharples gift was, or how would Peters have known about it?

IMHO, much more concerning is former MPs getting involved with companies that later prove to be questionable or worse. The company principals obviously flatter the politicians that they need their skills, when really all they are after is the value of their name.

What was Jenny Shipley thinking when she became a director of Yan’s listed company?

By: Michael

Michael — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:53:29 +0000

Remember Cushing vs Peters? The judge commented that the only thing Peters got right was Cushings name, so by implication all the rest of Peters allegations of corruption were lies. Peters has a long history of throwing around baseless allegations with no evidence for his own political benefit.

That he fools so many people into voting for him for so long makes me despair at the intelligence of some voters.

And any suggestion of a National-NZ First Government makes me feel a bit sick…

By: barry

barry — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:46:39 +0000

DPF – you always take evry opportunity to tell us what a dog winston is….

But dont forget that after the next election he just might be your best friend (or if its not him – its the conservatives – who would be a better group) by keeping national in power.

Dpnt keep biting the hand that might be feeding you one day soon.