Inspirational

February 3rd, 2013 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

Chloe Johnson at HoS reports:

Super mum Melanie Jackson has been pregnant 16 times – and she can’t wait to do it again.

During the past 16 years she has been through eight hospital births, two home births – including a water birth – and six miscarriages.

Ouch, that’s a lot of pregnancies by age 36, and a sad number of miscarriages.

But Melanie, 36, and Craig, 41, have not finished making their family yet.

“We don’t feel in our hearts we have finished,” Melanie said.

Six weeks ago she gave birth to their 10th child, Truleigh, who joined five brothers and four sisters aged between 16 and 2.

The Jacksons live in a six-bedroom home in Hamilton and go through 25 loaves of bread, a tray of eggs and about 30 toilet rolls each week.

Their grocery bill is around $500 a week and they receive no financial assistance from the Government, Melanie said.

I think having lots of children is a great thing if the parents are good parents who can afford to look after them – as is the case here.

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51 Responses to “Inspirational”

  1. wat dabney (3,439 comments) says:

    “and they receive no financial assistance from the Government”

    Free schooling. Free healthcare for children…

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  2. RRM (8,988 comments) says:

    Fuck that.

    Two children and one more on the way here. Plenty…

    (And we’re not govt-funded either :-P )

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  3. jakejakejake (128 comments) says:

    I’d be surprised if they didn’t get enough from WFF each week to cover at least their $500 grocery bill.

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  4. eszett (2,264 comments) says:

    David, how does this story inspire you and to do what?
    Can we expect lots of little DPFs shortly? ;-)

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  5. Viking2 (10,709 comments) says:

    Personally I consider that to be a form of female abuse.
    While it is their choice, once is given to ask is it really her choice or is it driven by religious dogma?

    So much for womens lib and womens career goals.

    As I said thier choice but we still subsidize them in many ways.

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  6. Scott Chris (5,675 comments) says:

    I don’t care if she supports them or not. That’s too many kids. The planet can’t sustain those kinds of numbers.

    Selfish cow.

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  7. toms (301 comments) says:

    Just what we need, with seven billion plus here already.

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  8. Liberty (211 comments) says:

    “no financial assistance from the Government,”
    What a load of twaddle.
    Hospital, Doctor subsidies, WWF, Education (As in half a class room of pupils) etc etc
    So you can cut out this socialist crap that they self fund.. Only around 10%
    of the electorate pay enough tax to pay their way.
    I would be very surprised if it included families that breed like rabbits.

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  9. Monique Watson (1,062 comments) says:

    That’s tripe @Scott Chris and @toms. It’s ridiculous to suggest there is an arbitrary limit on the population before the planet collapses under it;s own weight. That is socialist propaganda. How many children would you allow families to have? One like China? Forced family planning? Lovely.
    Despite the perception back home on the island of New Zealand, there is a lot of open space in the rest of the world.
    Good little socialists get het up about it because it’s an element of life that can’t cbe ontrolled for other people..
    I’d thank her if I were you as the next generation are the ones that are wiping the dribble off your chin in the old folks home. I think that’s selfish attitude on your part.
    Personally I’m a little skeptical. I don’t know how anyone could handle six kids let alone 10. But my Nana did and in a lot of ways it’s a bigger achievement than material wealth. You probably wouldn’t understand that if you measure everything in terms of wealth or lack of it.
    @Viking2 Maybe she’s up to it and bears no sign of abuse by childbirth. You can have a large family and still be “fit”.

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  10. tristanb (1,133 comments) says:

    “Inspirational”??

    You’re just taking the piss, right?

    Nearly any woman can open open her legs and not use contraception and get pregnant two dozen times. There’s nothing clever or inspirational about it. It’s more disgusting, she’s going to be leaking urine with every step she takes in her 50s.

    Now, I don’t mind her doing it. It’s her right, etc. etc. But don’t pretend she’s some sort of New Jesus!

    This is what impoverished people do all the time. It’s what our ancestors did. There’s a reason we don’t do it now – it wrecks the female body, and means each child gets few parental resources. The only people that do shit like this nowadays are stupid or highly religious (a.k.a stupid).

    The only inspiration it causes is the inspiration to get a vasectomy.

    And one more word:
    “Truleigh”

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  11. Michael (880 comments) says:

    Is the Kiwiblog commentator club actually the “Forever Alone” club?

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  12. eszett (2,264 comments) says:

    That’s harsh, tristanb.

    There’s nothing in the piece that would suggest a religious connection and if he can make enough money to support a wife and 10 kids, he surely isn’t that stupid.

    Maybe they just like children and raising kids. I know a family who also have lots of kids and while slightly religious, religion was not a motivation in having that many kids (He says he always wanted a football team, but he still has some way to go)

    Anyway, I am not sure why people here have to be so judgmental about it. It’s there choice and as long as it’s a free choice, why would anyone object. They are not forcing everyone else to have large families, are they now?

    Why should people not be free to live their lives as they see best, as long as they don’t interfere with other people’s lives?

    Even though I don’t quite believe the “no governmental aid” bit (as people have pointed out, they are surely receiving aid, which they probably take for granted and don’t see it as direct aid), I am more than happy to have my tax money go to families.

    Finally I agree, Inspirational is probably the wrong word to use here, Admirable is likely to be more appropriate.

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  13. mikemikemikemike (239 comments) says:

    A lot of people on here must have very lonely lives! It’s not like they are complaining at not being able to live in Mt Eden or are saying they need help. We should be celebrating people who are prepared to live their lives in a way that they choose. For a bunch of people that support free choice and the ability to do as one sees fit you can be an pretty judgmental lot at times!

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  14. jims_whare (389 comments) says:

    A lot of twaddle has been written on here.

    If the parents are able to support their kids and bring them up properly then good on them.

    I’m the youngest of 12 (mid 30′s now) and all my brothers and sisters have either professional educations and/or are working full time and have most of their lives.

    Thats a lotta tax coming in.

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  15. pollywog (1,153 comments) says:

    Shit can change in an instant and the truth is, you don’t know if they are good parents or look after them well…

    Perception is not reality

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  16. gump (1,228 comments) says:

    There are lots of weird angry people here.

    It’s their choice to control the size of their family. I couldn’t handle ten kids, but they seem to be doing fine.

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  17. Jimmy Smits (246 comments) says:

    Michael (647) Says:
    February 3rd, 2013 at 11:48 am

    Is the Kiwiblog commentator club actually the “Forever Alone” club?

    I think if the gay marriage threads are anything to go by, it’s the religious fundamentalists club.

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  18. tristanb (1,133 comments) says:

    I don’t have any problem with what they are doing, but it sure as hell ain’t inspirational.

    I think the title “Inspirational” frames the debate about whether or not they are. Clearly inspirational is a stupid word to use. Really, they shouldn’t even be in the paper. There were larger families and my school. I’d like to know the motive this family had to appear in the Herald.

    “There’s nothing in the piece that would suggest a religious connection”.

    It’s probably this: “We don’t feel in our hearts we have finished”. Yes, I know it’s an expression, but the emphasis on “feel” rather than “think” suggests they believe some God character is guiding them through life.

    In the end, they can do what they want. But if you’re going to agree to appear in a human interest story in a newspaper, expect some people to call you on your lifestyle choice.

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  19. Michael (880 comments) says:

    @Jimmy – I thought religious nutters were generally in favour of large families. Personally, the Jackson’s sound like a loving, stable family who aren’t reliant on direct state support – I would have thought that KB readers would be in favour. And as Jim points out, in the long run these kids are probably going to pay far more in tax than we are on their education, health and other indirect state supports.

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  20. Left Right and Centre (2,390 comments) says:

    Well let’s see….

    If *everyone* had 200 children….. let’s think about where the country would be in 2-3 generations, hmmm?

    Thankfully these nutters make up a small part of society.

    There you go…. living in your own little bubble here on planet earth. To hell with everyone else, I can do whatever I want in my little bubble… and if I want 20 kids… I don’t care what anyone else thinks or what impact that has for anything else. Because I only care about what goes on in my own isolated little bubble where I am king and care not for any other consideration.

    TRULEIGH!!!!!!! WHAT…… THE……… FAAAAAAARK?????? That might just sum them up for me. Nutters that name one of their little rabbits Truleigh. What’s her middle name? Awful? Truly Awful?

    It only works if *not* everyone has *way too many* children.

    There’s too many people on earth now. How many too many? I don’t know… 5 billion? Most of the 7B alive now are fucking miserable… horrible poverty… they’ve got nothing!! Shitty lives. How many people with miserable existences do you want alive at one time? 20 billion? 50? Where’s the bloody limit? I don’t care how you manage food resources… **there’s a ceiling somewhere**. You want to pile up to the ceiling just for a laugh? Ha!! Good one cretins!!

    If humans are smarter than other animals… you’d never know it from the way they are breeding to the limit of the carrying capacity of their habitat. That’s what lower animals do. Breed mindlessly out of programmed instinct.

    This will cop a lot of flak but I’m just being honest… if you’re just trying to rack up kids like morons… miscarriage is a check and balance of nature that I don’t have a problem with in this instance.

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  21. tvb (3,938 comments) says:

    The woman is incontinent with children. Once upon a time large families were common but not so today.

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  22. Andrei (2,429 comments) says:

    Hilarity results

    Left Right and center

    If *everyone* had 200 children….. let’s think about where the country would be in 2-3 generations, hmmm?

    Nobody, well no woman, has ever had 200 children. In pre revolutionary Russia, with no contraception available the norm was 4 or 5.

    Thankfully these nutters make up a small part of society.

    One day you are going to be grateful to the people who are having kids now because those kids are going to be the adults who are going to pay your super, keep the wheels of commerce turning, milking the cows and of course keeping your bottom clean for you when you are old and in your dotage

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  23. Barnsley Bill (929 comments) says:

    At 50k income per year they will get nearly 900 bucks per week in WFF
    At 100k income per year they will still get over 670 bucks per week in WFF
    People getting WFF don’t consider it govt assistance. They consider it their right.

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  24. Barnsley Bill (929 comments) says:

    You can bet a dollar that Chloe Simpson did not ask them whether they were getting WFF and you can bet your left nut that the editor who would have approved the story did not ask either.

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  25. Left Right and Centre (2,390 comments) says:

    Andrei…

    *centre*- Get it right mate if you’re going to be a cunt about everything…

    I’m glad I gave you some kind of laughter…. you should be thankful…

    Listen mate… you need some kids…. not that many ya clown. How many have you got?

    I don’t even clean my bottom now mate so you can cross that one off your list. I hope they’re good with their hands though. Mine are both fairly had it now so I’ll have to wait until those kids are at least 18+ first… know what I mean?

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  26. Fox (182 comments) says:

    Given that we currently have to import thousands of immigrants each year simply to maintain the population in this country, I’m not really sure what the problem is.

    And I’m assuming the people talking the talk about how this planet is overpopulated are also walking the walk and refraining from having any children?

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  27. Fletch (5,719 comments) says:

    A buddy of mine that I went to high school with, now has 11 kids (I think!).
    He home schools as well

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  28. Fletch (5,719 comments) says:

    Left Rigght and Center, it’s been proven that the Earth is in no danger of overpopulation.
    Paul Erlich wrote a book called ‘The Population Bomb’ in which he reckoned the Earth would be overpopulated by the 1970s

    The Population Bomb began with this statement: The battle to feed all of humanity is over. In the 1970s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. At this late date nothing can prevent a substantial increase in the world death rate …

    He was wrong of course. In fact, there is a famous wager with Julian Simon that he lost about it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon%E2%80%93Ehrlich_wager

    The thing most forget is, the more people there are – the more workers we have. And the more workers we have allows us to harvest more food, so it can be looked at as kind of self-sustaining?

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  29. Left Right and Centre (2,390 comments) says:

    yeow Fox… no progeny here…. and thank goodness for that… I’m a foul-mouthed sponging fucktard…. my kids would kill all the other kids…

    Well you can tell by the way I talk the talk, I aint got no kids… and there aint no stork…

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  30. Left Right and Centre (2,390 comments) says:

    Fletch… that is the dumbest thing anyone has ever shared with other people.

    Ok… feed 10 000 billion people. Yeah. There’s a limit man. Now show the world that you do in fact possess the capacity for rational thought and give us your best guess of where the limit may be?

    Religious nutters… oh dear. Ooooooooooh dear. Are you the ultimate troller? Posing as a religious nutter? I find it hard to believe you are in fact ‘you’ as it were. I think you’re really a bored trolling athiest or something.

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  31. Left Right and Centre (2,390 comments) says:

    Fox… factually inaccurate. The immigrants create a net increase in population. They don’t just maintain it.

    And mainly in Auckland, where damn near all of the increase over the last 30 years has been foreigners. The rest of NZ trends a lot lower in growth rates. Way behind Auckland. Way behind. Have you seen Wellington mate? Someone puts up a new house in a street and it’s exciting… we don’t have any of that one new suburb a month sprawl that Auckland does.

    Auckland is how many times bigger than number two NZ region? Is it now…. almost four? You’ve got two NZs… Auckland and everything else. And the everything else resembles the slow going no rush easy does it pace of growth it always has done. Auckland… you’ve changed man… now you’re just melting into oblivion. It’s like an international airport with 1.4M stranded passengers.

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  32. Fletch (5,719 comments) says:

    LR&C, it’s not that simple.

    If we looked after everyone as we should then we’d have enough for everyone.
    Do you realize that America burns one third of it’s wheat by producing bio-fuel to keep cars going? Which in turn pushes up food costs.

    This from The Economist magazine –

    But the rise in prices is also the self-inflicted result of America’s reckless ethanol subsidies. This year biofuels will take a third of America’s (record) maize harvest. That affects food markets directly: fill up an SUV’s fuel tank with ethanol and you have used enough maize to feed a person for a year. And it affects them indirectly, as farmers switch to maize from other crops. The 30m tonnes of extra maize going to ethanol this year amounts to half the fall in the world’s overall grain stocks.

    http://www.economist.com/node/10252015?story_id=10252015

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  33. Left Right and Centre (2,390 comments) says:

    Even Gareth Morgan will not like this large family. What if when these kids grow up they get right into cats?

    How many extra cats is that going to be then… hmmm? A lot potentially. This family could have a large negative impact on native birds. According to Gareth’s thinking.

    What if…. one of the kids is barren… and so because they can’t have their own large family… as kids of large families are often want to follow in their parent’s footsteps…. they turn into a crazy person and get 20 cats as child substitutes? You see… I hope the parents are teaching their kids about the possible pitfalls uniquely associated with their choice of family size.

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  34. Fletch (5,719 comments) says:

    Fletch… that is the dumbest thing anyone has ever shared with other people.

    Pot… kettle…. black

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  35. Left Right and Centre (2,390 comments) says:

    Fletch…..

    I will never never never never never never ever ever click on any of your links. Ever. But I reserve the right to flip flop like I’m running down the beach.

    And anywa I’ve seen all of that carry on before plus it’s coming from you so it must just be total lunacy of the highest order is probably a fairly safe assumption to draw…

    Fletch… the world is **fucked** right now this instant already buddy. You couldn’t possibly hope to give every last human on this earth the lifestyle you enjoy today. Now or ever. Even if you could hold the holes closed enough to level off at 7B. Keep it real. Real is the word between deluded and round the twist mate.

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  36. Left Right and Centre (2,390 comments) says:

    Fletch-

    Pot kettle black is one of the wankiest cliches going around at the moment. Suits you.

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  37. WineOh (428 comments) says:

    I honestly can’t imagine a family of 10 kids. How do you go on holiday anywhere? How do you go shopping without leaving the brood at home? How many houses in NZ can cope with that sized brood?
    As one of the kids, how much individual attention would you get from your parents, help with schooling, clothes & shoes, trips to the doctor. What does cooking for 12 at once look like.

    And who didn’t think of the MontyPython skit, “Child birth in the 3rd world” (every sperm is sacred…)

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  38. Viking2 (10,709 comments) says:

    One thing I must say. Didn’t appear to be a Tainui amongst them. :lol:

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  39. Viking2 (10,709 comments) says:

    What does cooking for 12 at once look like.

    Cooking for 12. Two barbeques brother.

    Well bath time would be fun. :o: :cool: :lol:

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  40. swan (651 comments) says:

    For these guys not to be getting WFF, they are either not applying for it deliberately or the guy earns $250,000 (assuming a stay at home mum). So it is believable, but he must be some sort of executive I suppose. Quite possible they are just not applying for it.

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  41. Chuck Bird (4,403 comments) says:

    This is New Zealand not Bangladesh or Pakistan. New Zealand is far better encouraging working couples – married particularly ones to have children than bring in immigrants with alien cultures, particularly those who worship a long dead paedophile.

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  42. seanmaitland (402 comments) says:

    Scott Chris you are an idiot – NZ’s population decreased last year, and you’re calling her a selfish cow for having a happy big family, which requires no tax payer assistance.

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  43. Left Right and Centre (2,390 comments) says:

    Viking2… safe to say you’d always be waiting to use the toilet? How many toilets do they have in the house? How about showers… general bathroom use… whoa…

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  44. Left Right and Centre (2,390 comments) says:

    Really Sean? The population of NZ is decreasing?

    Oh well… Mel is only 36… plenty of time left… she can just about take care of that herself eh?

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  45. Fletch (5,719 comments) says:

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  46. Monique Watson (1,062 comments) says:

    @tristanb.
    I trust you’ll get a vasectomy prior to exploring fatherhood then. You seem to be quite paranoid about the female leaking vagina and won’t want to go there.
    #

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  47. Monique Watson (1,062 comments) says:

    Sooooooo. Going back to the original story, it would appear that the family receives no financial help:
    “Their grocery bill is around $500 a week and they receive no financial assistance from the Government, Melanie said.

    “My husband is working and building a business so it is not unlike him to get up 4am to do invoicing, then go to work at 6am, come home at 6pm and help with the kids.”

    So there, misanthropes.

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  48. Lucy (32 comments) says:

    I’m absolutely outraged!!! There is nothing in the least bit ‘inspirational’ about having 10 kids! This is not something to aspire to! Albert Einstein is inspirational, Sir Edmond Hilary is inspirational, doctors, nurses and teachers that help people every day are inspirational. But the fact that two people had ten kids and are raising them themselves? They are just doing what they should do! Since when do we congratulate people for simply doing their job? Have our standards really sunk that low? It’s like congratulating someone for not cheating on their partner. Doing the very minimum that is expected is NOT inspirational!
    No, no, no – ‘inspirational’ is reserved for those people who go beyond doing their jobs. For those people who are helping others, who are making a difference in our communities. Not people who are merely looking after the children they chose to create. It’s not like they took in ten kids off the street and are raising them – now that would be inspirational. But raising your own kids? How are they helping our community? And the fact that you label this an ‘inspiration’ and something that we should all ‘aspire’ to is quite frankly disgusting.
    Please David – don’t make any ‘inspirational’ speeches to teenagers! I can just see your speech now – ‘the most inspirational thing is for men and women to get married, have children AND look after them!’ Have you gone mad? It seems our bloggersphere has joined the mainstream media in ‘dumbing’ down our society further.
    I have no problem with this couple having as many kids as they want. My only objection is you singling it out as something remarkable, inspirational or special. It is none of those things.

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  49. Fletch (5,719 comments) says:

    Lucy, you’re a feminist right? And never had any kids?
    I’m just guessing.
    I doubt you have any idea what it’s like to raise 10 kids. You think it’s easy?

    It IS an inspirational story, especially when you consider how many children come from broken homes, or how many are aborted before they even make it into this world.

    Yes, it’s what women and families are supposed to do, but quite often we find miracles in the so-called ordinary or mundane.

    When someone does well at their profession (and being a mother is a job) should they not deserve praise?
    When a musician who is just doing his job does it very well, he is praised. Or a painter, or a scientist, or a cricketer. These are all just people doing their jobs. Scoeity looks at the best of them and say, ‘well done’; and they inspire others.

    Well, being a mother is no less than any other of these jobs (albeit unpaid monetarily). Some do it better than most. Some do it very well. Some excel. And should they not be praised as much as anyone else who excels at their work?

    This is what marriage is all about. This is what family is all about. This is what society is all about.
    When parents do well at bringing up children they add perhaps more to society than even a musician or a poet.
    They create the future and populate it with their values.

    This type of family grows our country and our country’s future.

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  50. Alan Johnstone (910 comments) says:

    They look nice people.

    If they can pay the bills, what’s the issue?

    Looks like they are raising a brood of future productive, happy taxpayers.

    Our demographics aren’t great, we need more babies to pay the bills in future.

    What’s not to like ?

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  51. pollywog (1,153 comments) says:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/8260180/McLarens-ghost-revisits-deadly-crash-site

    That’s inspirational^^^

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