Iran’s obsession with space

February 8th, 2013 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

Asher Moses at SMH reports:

Fresh from controversy over a suspicious space-faring monkey, is now under fire over a suspect stealth fighter jet breakthrough that one Australian defence analyst said “looks like it might make a noise and vibrate if you put 20 cents in”.

Unveiling the Qaher F313 (Dominant F313) earlier this month, Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmedinejad described it as “among the most advanced fighter jets in the world” with features including the ability to evade detection by radar and hit both ground and air targets.

Aviation experts have questioned whether the jet shown can even fly as it was too small to accommodate a real pilot and the controls and wiring looked too simple.

It also lacked the bolts and rivets found on all aircraft and offered wonky aerodynamics.

“It looks like the Iranians dumped some rudimentary flight controls and an ejection seat into a shell moulded in what they thought were stealthy angles,” wrote Foreign Policy magazine.

Andrew Davies, senior defence analyst and director of research at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, said the jet was a “laughable fake”.

“It looks like it might make a noise and vibrate if you put 20 cents in,” he told Fairfax Media.

The monkey that changed appearance was laughable enough, but this takes the cake. You wonder if those in charge are morons, or just think everyone else is? Fourth formers could do better fakes!

“I can see (almost) how North Korea gets away with transparent nonsense due to isolation, but Iran has a population that’s much more switched on and connected, at least in the cities.

Hopefully it will lead to greater unrest amongst the population. People don’t like a Government that lies and turns their country into a laughing stock.

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22 Responses to “Iran’s obsession with space”

  1. nasska (10,659 comments) says:

    From the quoted report:

    ….”Iran is sticking to its guns and Ahmedinejad has claimed he will personally be heading off into space. “…..

    The Iranian people probably think that the world’s scorn & laughter is a small price to pay if their idiot president does follow through with his promise.

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  2. Manolo (13,367 comments) says:

    Allahu Akbar (a thousand times)

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  3. flipper (3,557 comments) says:

    They are morons…. (Allauh Akbar, as manolo says).
    But so are the pin heads in the MSM who swallow and give legs to the “dizzijad” rubbish.

    Good post DPF

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  4. RRM (9,451 comments) says:

    Sad…

    I remember getting a “FW: FW: fwd: FW: God bless America – R.I.P. rag heads!” type e mail in which some proud US citizen waxed lyrical about his nation’s military and technological supremacy, he’d seen a still photo from the movie Stealth of a futuristic U.S. jet fighter on the deck of a carrier (complete with Pilot Jessica Biel at the controls ) and thought it was real, and gotten a bit carried away with patriotic fervour.

    The truly sad thing about this Iranian govt propaganda, is – that it’s not even as well done as this lunatic’s e mail faff was!

    And Iran must know that the IDF would send over half a dozen hard dudes in F-16s to knock out any serious new military threat they to put up. (Unless Ahmedinejad is too young or not well-enough read to realise that?)

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  5. Tom Jackson (2,458 comments) says:

    Still better than the F22 and F35.

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  6. MikeMan (171 comments) says:

    The video is obviously an RC model using a hobby turbine for power.

    It is laughable :)

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  7. sHr0oMaN (23 comments) says:

    As Tom Jackson says: “Still better than the F22 and F35.”

    And still cheaper than the F22 (considering the AirFix model costs 10 quid)

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  8. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    Still better than the F22 and F35.

    You’ve just compared a wooden mock up to two of the best 5th generation combat aircraft in the world.

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  9. RRM (9,451 comments) says:

    Bevan – I think the issue might be that the F-22 doesn’t have missiles on its wingtips like the F-16… an addition that would make it look far more awesome!

    Clearly the designers are a bunch of amateurs…

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  10. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    Yeah, but if you just want your fighter to look cool, you’d buy French.

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  11. Richard Hurst (755 comments) says:

    “among the most advanced fighter jets in the world” with features including the ability to evade detection by radar and hit both ground and air targets…..and it glows blue when Jews, Christians or western atheists are nearby.

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  12. LabourDoesntWork (282 comments) says:

    Strictly for laughs.
    http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/UnNews:Iran_launches_monkey_into_space

    “Although these are uncertain economic times, I believe we must show Iran that we can still put monkeys into space. In fact, we may even go back to the moon, to prove America can still do what it once did. The time has come to boldly go were we went before. Supposedly, most US research labs are retiring their chimps. Instead of sending them to animal sanctuaries, I propose blasting them into space.”

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  13. Jim (398 comments) says:

    I can just imaging the early versions: “It’s too round at the top. It needs to be pointy. Round is not scary, pointy is scary!”

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  14. Tom Jackson (2,458 comments) says:

    You’ve just compared a wooden mock up to two of the best 5th generation combat aircraft in the world.

    They’re rubbish, bro. Haven’t you been reading the news.

    I don’t know what it is, but the US has gone from being the producer of exceptionally fine aircraft to producing expensive, dysfunctional hunks of metal.

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  15. Lance (2,451 comments) says:

    @Tom Jackson
    No not really, it’s just that major breakthroughs in aviation tech always takes a shit load of time, money and set backs.
    It’s just that it is all under the microscope now.

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  16. dime (9,430 comments) says:

    lance – yep.

    tom – youre an idiot.

    The F35 is still in development FFS.

    I can just see Tom strolling through Apple HQ a few years ago. He spots an iphone prototype. its months away from being released. after a few minutes he turns to jobs “its rubbish bro”.

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  17. cha (3,779 comments) says:

    The Qaher F313 with its 300kph airspeed indicator, heat moulded plastic panels and various bits and pieces.

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  18. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    @tom, what – news articles written by hacks who wouldn’t know the first thing about military aircraft? You know they said the same thing about the F-15 & 16 during the same stage of their development and look how they’ve turned out. Hell I recall numerous articles about the Mig 29 being far superior to both when it showed up… What’s the kill-loss ratio on that one again?

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  19. David in Chch (508 comments) says:

    By the way, I have seen many reports and much discussion of this Iranian “aircraft”, but cannot find a link anywhere so that I can see it for myself. I love the Aussie’s description of it, though, and really wanted to see what this toy looked like. Anyone have a link they can share?

    Cheers

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  20. RandySavage (196 comments) says:

    casual racism abounds through the op post

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  21. Tom Jackson (2,458 comments) says:

    No not really, it’s just that major breakthroughs in aviation tech always takes a shit load of time, money and set backs.
    It’s just that it is all under the microscope now.

    Absolute nonsense. If you knew anything about military aviation, you would know that both the F22 and F35 are expensive white elephants. The problems they have are unprecedented with a major US fighter aircraft, and its worse because the USAF has put all its eggs in these baskets.

    The F 35 is a flying pig. It’s been designed to do too much and won’t do anything well. The F 22 is an expensive lemon that is not cost effective. It is weak in close range combat and was easily bested by the Eurofighter Typhoon in dogfights. Look it up yourself. The F-22 is a costly bet that it can keep enemies at long range. As anyone who has studied air combat knows, that is a futile expectation. The Americans themselves already know this with their experiences in Vietnam. The F 4 originally had no cannon, and had to get one sharpish in order to compete. In addition the damn thing won’t stay in the air without ridiculous amounts of maintenance and suffocates its own pilots. It’s a lemon.

    I honestly don’t know what has happened to US aircraft design. They used to be awesome. But they’ve dropped the ball. Too much official meddling, I suspect.

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  22. Yoza (1,543 comments) says:

    Tom Jackson (295) Says: ” I honestly don’t know what has happened to US aircraft design. They used to be awesome. But they’ve dropped the ball. Too much official meddling, I suspect.”

    The US ‘defence’ establishment works as a conduit through which public revenue (taxes) are channelled to private corporate ‘defence’ contractors. Producing effective ordnance is secondary to the requirement of providing the funds for high-tech engineering with an extremely expensive research and development component – not to mention the necessity to provide healthy profits to augment the share dividends those contractors return to their shareholders – and the downstream effects of a small portion of that research and development being converted to commercial products for sale into the civilian economy.

    One of the primary reasons Germany and Japan became so industrially sophisticated at such a quick rate is precisely because those countries did not muck about providing private corporations massive R&D funds by channelling taxes through a resource hungry military complex, they provided funds directly to the corporate entities which appeared most likely to facilitate state aspirations in the field of high-tech R&D.

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