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		<title>By: Left Right and Centre</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/is_beer_healthy.html/comment-page-1#comment-1097928</link>
		<dc:creator>Left Right and Centre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS: I like using rum and brandy flavoured essence in icing. That&#039;s my cheating way of getting jiggy with something that reminds me of the good stuff. On the ice cream as it melts.... mate mate mate.... oh yeah....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: I like using rum and brandy flavoured essence in icing. That&#8217;s my cheating way of getting jiggy with something that reminds me of the good stuff. On the ice cream as it melts&#8230;. mate mate mate&#8230;. oh yeah&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Left Right and Centre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Left Right and Centre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok... nothing is &#039;fattening&#039;. If you consume more calories than you burn, the body will convert the unburnt calories to fat. Stored in fat cells. 

Where those calories come from doesn&#039;t make any difference.

Alcohol = empty calories. No-one needs the calories from them. 

I am not a wowser. Get fucking shit-faced when it suits. But be an informed shit-faced goon. Personally I&#039;d rather blow my calories on ice cream or sweets.

My alcohol count in 2013 is two beers. To have a beer with visiting friends as a social courtesy. I wanted to fit in with them. 

Comparing wine to beer in terms of calories is a joke. Oh... one of them has slightly more.... so what?

At what point does alcohol consumption become no longer correct to be described as &#039;moderate?&#039;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Moderation, as with most things, &lt;b&gt;is the key&lt;/b&gt;. Few things (except poisons) are totally bad for you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m pleased to see someone else that says &#039;is the key&#039; instead of &#039;is key&#039; or &#039;is key to&#039;. Pet hate of mine. Practice is key to success&#039;. &#039;Practice is the key to success&#039;. &#039;Innovation is key&#039;... yeah... I don&#039;t like it. It&#039;s all over the bloody place too. Like a lot of other Koiwi language... monkey see monkey do straight from the good ol&#039; US of McCulture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230; nothing is &#8216;fattening&#8217;. If you consume more calories than you burn, the body will convert the unburnt calories to fat. Stored in fat cells. </p>
<p>Where those calories come from doesn&#8217;t make any difference.</p>
<p>Alcohol = empty calories. No-one needs the calories from them. </p>
<p>I am not a wowser. Get fucking shit-faced when it suits. But be an informed shit-faced goon. Personally I&#8217;d rather blow my calories on ice cream or sweets.</p>
<p>My alcohol count in 2013 is two beers. To have a beer with visiting friends as a social courtesy. I wanted to fit in with them. </p>
<p>Comparing wine to beer in terms of calories is a joke. Oh&#8230; one of them has slightly more&#8230;. so what?</p>
<p>At what point does alcohol consumption become no longer correct to be described as &#8216;moderate?&#8217;.</p>
<blockquote><p>Moderation, as with most things, <b>is the key</b>. Few things (except poisons) are totally bad for you.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m pleased to see someone else that says &#8216;is the key&#8217; instead of &#8216;is key&#8217; or &#8216;is key to&#8217;. Pet hate of mine. Practice is key to success&#8217;. &#8216;Practice is the key to success&#8217;. &#8216;Innovation is key&#8217;&#8230; yeah&#8230; I don&#8217;t like it. It&#8217;s all over the bloody place too. Like a lot of other Koiwi language&#8230; monkey see monkey do straight from the good ol&#8217; US of McCulture.</p>
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		<title>By: Left Right and Centre</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/is_beer_healthy.html/comment-page-1#comment-1097926</link>
		<dc:creator>Left Right and Centre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 12:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The cheapest, nicest that I drink is Export Gold. So common but I don’t care.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Export Gold cans are pretty looking too. Snap... I&#039;m 80-82kg at this time. Down from 96-98kg at start of October. I&#039;m in my healthy weight range at 80-82kg though. In fact one dipshit now ex-friend thinks I look anorexic. He&#039;s a 107kg lardarse. Next to him I do look anorexic. 

The Scorned....

&lt;blockquote&gt;The calories in/calories out dogma is false and a misapplication of the law of theomdynamics&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I radically reduced the calorie intake in my diet and lost six kilos per month for three months straight. Now that&#039;s a science experiment with factual results. I could help anyone burn fat and lose weight. You could help them wish they hadn&#039;t been born. How many times can you repeat the word &#039;thermodynamics&#039; before most people fall asleep do you reckon? I had a nap after looking at your comment.

&lt;blockquote&gt;likelyhood&lt;/blockquote&gt; Red tick. Spelling. Are you in year 9? Is Harriet spelt correctly or did you get that wrong too? Hey, I&#039;m no fuckin Karl du Fresne myself but seriously. Also; I take it you&#039;ve got some relevant credentials to spout about nutrition?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The cheapest, nicest that I drink is Export Gold. So common but I don’t care.</p></blockquote>
<p>Export Gold cans are pretty looking too. Snap&#8230; I&#8217;m 80-82kg at this time. Down from 96-98kg at start of October. I&#8217;m in my healthy weight range at 80-82kg though. In fact one dipshit now ex-friend thinks I look anorexic. He&#8217;s a 107kg lardarse. Next to him I do look anorexic. </p>
<p>The Scorned&#8230;.</p>
<blockquote><p>The calories in/calories out dogma is false and a misapplication of the law of theomdynamics</p></blockquote>
<p>I radically reduced the calorie intake in my diet and lost six kilos per month for three months straight. Now that&#8217;s a science experiment with factual results. I could help anyone burn fat and lose weight. You could help them wish they hadn&#8217;t been born. How many times can you repeat the word &#8216;thermodynamics&#8217; before most people fall asleep do you reckon? I had a nap after looking at your comment.</p>
<blockquote><p>likelyhood</p></blockquote>
<p> Red tick. Spelling. Are you in year 9? Is Harriet spelt correctly or did you get that wrong too? Hey, I&#8217;m no fuckin Karl du Fresne myself but seriously. Also; I take it you&#8217;ve got some relevant credentials to spout about nutrition?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve (North Shore)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve (North Shore)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 06:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The cheapest, nicest that I drink is Export Gold. So common but I don&#039;t care.

And in between drinks I have Durbanville Hills Shiraz, common but it&#039;s $9.99 and I like it

Now this beer pot/fat guts thing. Well I had some surgery and gave up smoking. That and eating better food and more food is the reason for the weight gain. Alcahol has nothing to do with it.

Phark I&#039;m just over 80kg now]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cheapest, nicest that I drink is Export Gold. So common but I don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>And in between drinks I have Durbanville Hills Shiraz, common but it&#8217;s $9.99 and I like it</p>
<p>Now this beer pot/fat guts thing. Well I had some surgery and gave up smoking. That and eating better food and more food is the reason for the weight gain. Alcahol has nothing to do with it.</p>
<p>Phark I&#8217;m just over 80kg now</p>
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		<title>By: Viking2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Viking2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t care if its healthy it will be going down a treat round here today.
Bloody hot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t care if its healthy it will be going down a treat round here today.<br />
Bloody hot.</p>
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		<title>By: MT_Tinman</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/is_beer_healthy.html/comment-page-1#comment-1097769</link>
		<dc:creator>MT_Tinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;A standard (wine) glass tends to be ....... up to 150 mls only. &lt;/i&gt;

Your glasses may be, I&#039;m bloody sure mine aren&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A standard (wine) glass tends to be &#8230;&#8230;. up to 150 mls only. </i></p>
<p>Your glasses may be, I&#8217;m bloody sure mine aren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: jonno1</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/is_beer_healthy.html/comment-page-1#comment-1097732</link>
		<dc:creator>jonno1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Something wrong with the units here (but only by a factor of 1000, so no worries). Still, if the numbers are right we can drink more! But sadly, I think Mr Williams means kilocalories, not calories. Does he also write for the Herald? I know that kcal is sometimes loosely written as Calories or Cal, but never calories.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something wrong with the units here (but only by a factor of 1000, so no worries). Still, if the numbers are right we can drink more! But sadly, I think Mr Williams means kilocalories, not calories. Does he also write for the Herald? I know that kcal is sometimes loosely written as Calories or Cal, but never calories.</p>
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		<title>By: marcw</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but isn&#039;t ethanol a carbohydrate? So it should be low carb including low alcohol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but isn&#8217;t ethanol a carbohydrate? So it should be low carb including low alcohol.</p>
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		<title>By: The Scorned</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Scorned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 00:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The most recent science is showing it is in fact sugar and carbohydrates that cause weight gain. The calories in/calories out dogma is false and a misapplication of the law of theomdynamics. Its how your body responds to the source of the calorie that determines if you get fatter or not. Basically Carbohydrates drive insulin which drives body fat accumulation. If you drink beer then drink the low carb stuff....tastes as good and not as bad for you weight wise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most recent science is showing it is in fact sugar and carbohydrates that cause weight gain. The calories in/calories out dogma is false and a misapplication of the law of theomdynamics. Its how your body responds to the source of the calorie that determines if you get fatter or not. Basically Carbohydrates drive insulin which drives body fat accumulation. If you drink beer then drink the low carb stuff&#8230;.tastes as good and not as bad for you weight wise.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 00:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DPF is looking awfully healthy these days! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DPF is looking awfully healthy these days! <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 00:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[redeye, I am only pulling your leg. Relax, have drink :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>redeye, I am only pulling your leg. Relax, have drink <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: redeye</title>
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		<dc:creator>redeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 00:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where did I say you weren&#039;t allowed to read them? I just pointed out the so-called &#039;study&#039; might be a bit biased. For the people that may want to use them as an excuse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where did I say you weren&#8217;t allowed to read them? I just pointed out the so-called &#8216;study&#8217; might be a bit biased. For the people that may want to use them as an excuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Kea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 00:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; I personally know of borderline alcoholics that use these sort of ‘studies’ as a justification for getting shit faced daily. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Then the problem is their drinking, not the &quot;studies&quot;. The alternative is to suggest only certain approved findings (of studies) should be presented for public consumption. The next question is, who will decide what we are allowed to read ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> I personally know of borderline alcoholics that use these sort of ‘studies’ as a justification for getting shit faced daily. </p></blockquote>
<p>Then the problem is their drinking, not the &#8220;studies&#8221;. The alternative is to suggest only certain approved findings (of studies) should be presented for public consumption. The next question is, who will decide what we are allowed to read ?</p>
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		<title>By: redeye</title>
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		<dc:creator>redeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 00:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing puritan about me Kea. But this sort of marketing is dishonest. And I personally know of borderline alcoholics that use these sort of &#039;studies&#039; as a justification for getting shit faced daily.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing puritan about me Kea. But this sort of marketing is dishonest. And I personally know of borderline alcoholics that use these sort of &#8216;studies&#8217; as a justification for getting shit faced daily.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 00:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Few things (except poisons) are totally bad for you.&quot;

Leftwing/socialist beliefs are a poison. Who&#039;d have guessed! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Few things (except poisons) are totally bad for you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Leftwing/socialist beliefs are a poison. Who&#8217;d have guessed! <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: marcw</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 00:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ethanol has 10 times as many calories as sugar - so drinking two glasses of beer compared to 1 glass of wine is only marginally less fattening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ethanol has 10 times as many calories as sugar &#8211; so drinking two glasses of beer compared to 1 glass of wine is only marginally less fattening.</p>
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		<title>By: Harriet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harriet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s peoples&#039; genetic make-up which partially, and in some people mostly, decides if foods/drinks are bad/good/better for them.

As an aside, all foods and/or chemicals[Government regulated quantities] in foods, won&#039;t GIVE you cancer/etc, nor will they INCREASE the likelyhood of you getting cancer from them. It&#039;s largly a matter of your genetic make-up being predisposed to being &#039;effected&#039; by them that they &#039;might&#039; increase the &#039;likelyhood&#039; of you getting cancer/ect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s peoples&#8217; genetic make-up which partially, and in some people mostly, decides if foods/drinks are bad/good/better for them.</p>
<p>As an aside, all foods and/or chemicals[Government regulated quantities] in foods, won&#8217;t GIVE you cancer/etc, nor will they INCREASE the likelyhood of you getting cancer from them. It&#8217;s largly a matter of your genetic make-up being predisposed to being &#8216;effected&#8217; by them that they &#8216;might&#8217; increase the &#8216;likelyhood&#8217; of you getting cancer/ect.</p>
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		<title>By: Kea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[redeye (572) Says: 
February 16th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
“commissioned by the British Beer and Pub Association”.

No bias there.

redeye youjoyless  puritan . Would you consider a finding by the usual tax payer funded busy-bodies to be any less bias ?


dime (5,508) Says: 
February 16th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
vodka &amp; soda. 50 calories per double from memory.

My drink of choice has recently changed from beer to vodka and soda. I find it is a totally different feeling and is gentler on the body. I have noticed I have lost some weight too, though I usually only drink one night a week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>redeye (572) Says:<br />
February 16th, 2013 at 12:41 pm<br />
“commissioned by the British Beer and Pub Association”.</p>
<p>No bias there.</p>
<p>redeye youjoyless  puritan . Would you consider a finding by the usual tax payer funded busy-bodies to be any less bias ?</p>
<p>dime (5,508) Says:<br />
February 16th, 2013 at 12:09 pm<br />
vodka &amp; soda. 50 calories per double from memory.</p>
<p>My drink of choice has recently changed from beer to vodka and soda. I find it is a totally different feeling and is gentler on the body. I have noticed I have lost some weight too, though I usually only drink one night a week.</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
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		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;If you drink more than a litre of wine you will be highly unlikely to carry on drinking.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Speak for youself, DPF. I&#039;m sure your mate Cactus Kate would disagree with you on that point too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you drink more than a litre of wine you will be highly unlikely to carry on drinking.</p></blockquote>
<p>Speak for youself, DPF. I&#8217;m sure your mate Cactus Kate would disagree with you on that point too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mobile Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mobile Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All beer is good. Some is just better...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All beer is good. Some is just better&#8230;</p>
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