The gap between NZ First and the Conservatives is narrowing. NZ First 3.0% -1.0 and Conservatives 2.0% steady.
Similar result to the Fairfax poll which showed NZ First 2.8% -1.0 and Conservatives 1.6% +0.2
The good folk at The Standard are the ones claiming that Shearer is a right wing neolib. They turn puce at the thought of National due to the perceived right leanings of the National Party. Heaven only knows why as apart from the founding belief of individual responsibility instead of the collective responsibility pitched by the Aotearoa Socialist Parties.
But I couldn’t point to which right wing policies define National as a right wing party. Not even beneficiary and student bashing defines National anymore as they appear to be going soft on Child Support which gives a rather conflicting message.
Pete? What say you? What happens to the Dads with shitloads of debt? Is it forgiven?
Monique, depends on the circumstances, it’s a complex issue. I strongly support fathers financially supporting their children – and playing significant role in their lives. I wouldn’t be too quick forgiving those who have deliberately avoided their responsibilities.
Regardless of the arguments David Cunliffe gave a rousing speech in parliament on this, as good as they get. There was a comment of “what a waste” from the Government bench at the conclusion – presumed to mean what a waste of talent. The Labour benches where virtually deserted.
At the end of the day, come 2014, due to the quirks of MMP, Shearer, Winnie, Norman and Hone combination will be in power. None of these polls matter. Shearer knows this and that is why he has that stupid grin on his face all the time and Norman is talking about cabinet positions. Folks NZ is for a bad period from 2014 to 2023 when finally National will make a reappearance.
I wouldn’t count on it thankfully, Sir C. The older people get the more right wing their beliefs. Two big aging population bubbles should skew the voting Right. The question is whether anyone with a real vision for NZ will pop up in the porridge. Ryall and English are bean counters typical if that generation. A safe pair of hands, sure but no master plan.
I don’t think I’m deranged or afflicted and I wouldn’t categorise National as being on the right – in absolute terms. The National Party agrees with many social democratic assumptions and disagrees with many conservative principles (enduring moral order, adherence to custom and tradition, prescrition and continuity).
As a conservative myself, however, I recognise that Nation is on the right relative to the political centre of the New Zealand demos – and is about as good a Government as one can expect New Zealanders to consent to.
Conservatives would do well to stop attacking politicians and recognise that they are just guided by the culture. You need to establish the conditions under which it is “politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing” as Milton Freidman said.