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		<title>By: Shazzadude</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/latest_roy_morgan_poll-4.html/comment-page-1#comment-1090047</link>
		<dc:creator>Shazzadude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 10:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[S. Russell:

&quot;It is a bit soon to be jumping to conclusions. 

1) Remember that the historical norm is for Govt polling to sag mid-term and rally at election-time as people look more closely at the alternative. I find it hard to believe that voters taking a hard look at Labour and the Greens is going to help them.&quot;

Name one second-term government in New Zealand history that recovered in such a way by the next election. The historical norm is for the opposition to experience significant positive swings heading into the election from that position. 

Voters in general don&#039;t fear the Greens, and the media give them an easy run, so I don&#039;t see the opposition scare-monger factor playing much of a role.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S. Russell:</p>
<p>&#8220;It is a bit soon to be jumping to conclusions. </p>
<p>1) Remember that the historical norm is for Govt polling to sag mid-term and rally at election-time as people look more closely at the alternative. I find it hard to believe that voters taking a hard look at Labour and the Greens is going to help them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Name one second-term government in New Zealand history that recovered in such a way by the next election. The historical norm is for the opposition to experience significant positive swings heading into the election from that position. </p>
<p>Voters in general don&#8217;t fear the Greens, and the media give them an easy run, so I don&#8217;t see the opposition scare-monger factor playing much of a role.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 08:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once the war in the middle east gets properly underway later this year folks will flock back to a strong leader.

No need to worry team unless the UN sacks Helen for mismanagement and she comes home! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once the war in the middle east gets properly underway later this year folks will flock back to a strong leader.</p>
<p>No need to worry team unless the UN sacks Helen for mismanagement and she comes home! <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: pq</title>
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		<dc:creator>pq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 07:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cunningham (297) Says: 
February 1st, 2013 at 11:33 am 
National is slowely building up some ammunition which they can use come the election campaign. Labours wonky housing figures, Normans printing press, Norman as Finance minister. They will just hold these little gems and then hammer the shit out of the left with them next year. Shearer will be like a deer in the headlights.
 

very funny Mr Cunningham, but are you sure we shoot Shearer, or that other]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cunningham (297) Says:<br />
February 1st, 2013 at 11:33 am<br />
National is slowely building up some ammunition which they can use come the election campaign. Labours wonky housing figures, Normans printing press, Norman as Finance minister. They will just hold these little gems and then hammer the shit out of the left with them next year. Shearer will be like a deer in the headlights.</p>
<p>very funny Mr Cunningham, but are you sure we shoot Shearer, or that other</p>
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		<title>By: pq</title>
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		<dc:creator>pq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 07:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wreck1080 (2,620) Says: 
February 1st, 2013 at 11:49 am 
Being purely selfish I may vote for labour or even the greens next election. 
I imagine they will cause the dollar to go lower thus improving my income. 
Although, I’m seriously considering throwing in the towel anyway as I’ve given up on the dollar falling and my income has nearly halved in the last 5 years. I wonder how many are feeling like me? (providing IT services to overseas companies)
 

wreck1080, would you be prepared to give me a figure on income from overseas, and how could Labour Green help]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wreck1080 (2,620) Says:<br />
February 1st, 2013 at 11:49 am<br />
Being purely selfish I may vote for labour or even the greens next election.<br />
I imagine they will cause the dollar to go lower thus improving my income.<br />
Although, I’m seriously considering throwing in the towel anyway as I’ve given up on the dollar falling and my income has nearly halved in the last 5 years. I wonder how many are feeling like me? (providing IT services to overseas companies)</p>
<p>wreck1080, would you be prepared to give me a figure on income from overseas, and how could Labour Green help</p>
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		<title>By: pq</title>
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		<dc:creator>pq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 07:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NZ First has votes, its like  money in the bank, yes we do have problems with affiliation, 
but you can forget about the Greens and I am going to get my backside kicked for saying so. 
Coalition NZ Nat 42% NZ First 9% $NZ 0.89]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NZ First has votes, its like  money in the bank, yes we do have problems with affiliation,<br />
but you can forget about the Greens and I am going to get my backside kicked for saying so.<br />
Coalition NZ Nat 42% NZ First 9% $NZ 0.89</p>
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		<title>By: hj</title>
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		<dc:creator>hj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All that&#039;s left of United Future (in terms of polling) is the whiff of smoke (tobacco of course).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that&#8217;s left of United Future (in terms of polling) is the whiff of smoke (tobacco of course).</p>
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		<title>By: hj</title>
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		<dc:creator>hj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Winston knows this:

“The big adverse gap in productivity between New Zealand and other countries opened up from the 1970s to the early 1990s. The policy choice that increased immigration – given the number of employers increasingly unable to pay First-World wages to the existing population and all the&lt;b&gt; capital requirements that increasing populations involve – looks likely to have worked almost directly against the adjustment New Zealand needed to make and it might have been better off with a lower rate of net immigration. &lt;/b&gt;This adjustment would have involved a lower real interest rate (and cost of capital) and a lower real exchange rate, meaning a more favourable environment for raising the low level of productive capital per worker and labour productivity. The low level of capital per worker is a striking symptom of New Zealand’s economic challenge.
”
http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/reviews-consultation/savingsworkinggroup/pdfs/swg-report-jan11.pdf

I&#039;d say that 158,000 owed by NZ First is money well spent.
The vested interests behind National  sure have deep pockets (and the odd diesel powered super yacht too no doubt)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winston knows this:</p>
<p>“The big adverse gap in productivity between New Zealand and other countries opened up from the 1970s to the early 1990s. The policy choice that increased immigration – given the number of employers increasingly unable to pay First-World wages to the existing population and all the<b> capital requirements that increasing populations involve – looks likely to have worked almost directly against the adjustment New Zealand needed to make and it might have been better off with a lower rate of net immigration. </b>This adjustment would have involved a lower real interest rate (and cost of capital) and a lower real exchange rate, meaning a more favourable environment for raising the low level of productive capital per worker and labour productivity. The low level of capital per worker is a striking symptom of New Zealand’s economic challenge.<br />
”<br />
<a href="http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/reviews-consultation/savingsworkinggroup/pdfs/swg-report-jan11.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/reviews-consultation/savingsworkinggroup/pdfs/swg-report-jan11.pdf</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that 158,000 owed by NZ First is money well spent.<br />
The vested interests behind National  sure have deep pockets (and the odd diesel powered super yacht too no doubt)</p>
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		<title>By: CrazyIvan</title>
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		<dc:creator>CrazyIvan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Add in the real possibility of the Maori Party losing a couple of electorates (Turia&#039;s and Sharples&#039;), maybe even all of them, and you have a possibility of left and right tied in terms of total seats with Winston the kingmaker (yuck).  

Conservatives I don&#039;t think are a real coalition option - unles something really changes in the next 18 months they&#039;d need to triple their share of the party vote to get over 5% and look unlikely at taking an electorate seat anywhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add in the real possibility of the Maori Party losing a couple of electorates (Turia&#8217;s and Sharples&#8217;), maybe even all of them, and you have a possibility of left and right tied in terms of total seats with Winston the kingmaker (yuck).  </p>
<p>Conservatives I don&#8217;t think are a real coalition option &#8211; unles something really changes in the next 18 months they&#8217;d need to triple their share of the party vote to get over 5% and look unlikely at taking an electorate seat anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: wreck1080</title>
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		<dc:creator>wreck1080</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being purely selfish I may vote for labour or even the greens next election. 

I imagine they will cause the dollar to go lower thus improving my income. 

Although, I&#039;m seriously considering throwing in the towel anyway as I&#039;ve given up on the dollar falling and my income has nearly halved in the last 5 years.   I wonder how many are feeling like me?   (providing IT services to overseas companies)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being purely selfish I may vote for labour or even the greens next election. </p>
<p>I imagine they will cause the dollar to go lower thus improving my income. </p>
<p>Although, I&#8217;m seriously considering throwing in the towel anyway as I&#8217;ve given up on the dollar falling and my income has nearly halved in the last 5 years.   I wonder how many are feeling like me?   (providing IT services to overseas companies)</p>
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		<title>By: Cunningham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[National is slowely building up some ammunition which they can use come the election campaign.  Labours wonky housing figures, Normans printing press, Norman as Finance minister.  They will just hold these little gems and then hammer the shit out of the left with them next year.  Shearer will be like a deer in the headlights.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>National is slowely building up some ammunition which they can use come the election campaign.  Labours wonky housing figures, Normans printing press, Norman as Finance minister.  They will just hold these little gems and then hammer the shit out of the left with them next year.  Shearer will be like a deer in the headlights.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[National may be short of Coalition partners. So what
Labour is in a far more tenuous position. With it unresolved leadership problems. 
The greens polling nearly 50% of labour. That would Guarantee  Norman  as minister of finance.
New Zealand First with its  incoherent leader will be dog tucker come the next election. 
Then there is  Mana .  Hona in cabinet.   The joys of democracy. 
The Gang of 4 is going to work together  like one big happy family. Sure and pigs might fly.
There are more chances of seeing  Jesus walk down the street than the Gang of 4  forming
a  long term viable government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>National may be short of Coalition partners. So what<br />
Labour is in a far more tenuous position. With it unresolved leadership problems.<br />
The greens polling nearly 50% of labour. That would Guarantee  Norman  as minister of finance.<br />
New Zealand First with its  incoherent leader will be dog tucker come the next election.<br />
Then there is  Mana .  Hona in cabinet.   The joys of democracy.<br />
The Gang of 4 is going to work together  like one big happy family. Sure and pigs might fly.<br />
There are more chances of seeing  Jesus walk down the street than the Gang of 4  forming<br />
a  long term viable government.</p>
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		<title>By: s.russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>s.russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a bit soon to be jumping to conclusions. 

1) Remember that the historical norm is for Govt polling to sag mid-term and rally at election-time as people look more closely at the alternative. I find it hard to believe that voters taking a hard look at Labour and the Greens is going to help them.

2) If this polling is right (and I admit that&#039;s a big if) it would only take a 1pc rise for National and a 1pc fall for NZ First and National would likely be re-elected, so things are still pretty close.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a bit soon to be jumping to conclusions. </p>
<p>1) Remember that the historical norm is for Govt polling to sag mid-term and rally at election-time as people look more closely at the alternative. I find it hard to believe that voters taking a hard look at Labour and the Greens is going to help them.</p>
<p>2) If this polling is right (and I admit that&#8217;s a big if) it would only take a 1pc rise for National and a 1pc fall for NZ First and National would likely be re-elected, so things are still pretty close.</p>
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		<title>By: bringbackdemocracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>bringbackdemocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[smittc

History tells us that Winston says one thing and then does the opposite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>smittc</p>
<p>History tells us that Winston says one thing and then does the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: sweetd</title>
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		<dc:creator>sweetd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Greens haven&#039;t had any detail put on them yet.  Key gave Norman some simple truths the other day in the house, and I think come election time, their lovely Green policies will be exposed as to how much they will cost.

But regardless, its really just the same left block moving between Labour and the Greens  with the serious nut jobs going for Mana, the overall left block number does not change, National still commands the middle ground, but only just.  

The lack of any partners of note and the &quot;relaxed National voters who think that they are 10 points ahead of Labour so why do I need to vote old style FPP&quot; thinking may yet be be the undoing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Greens haven&#8217;t had any detail put on them yet.  Key gave Norman some simple truths the other day in the house, and I think come election time, their lovely Green policies will be exposed as to how much they will cost.</p>
<p>But regardless, its really just the same left block moving between Labour and the Greens  with the serious nut jobs going for Mana, the overall left block number does not change, National still commands the middle ground, but only just.  </p>
<p>The lack of any partners of note and the &#8220;relaxed National voters who think that they are 10 points ahead of Labour so why do I need to vote old style FPP&#8221; thinking may yet be be the undoing.</p>
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		<title>By: thedavincimode</title>
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		<dc:creator>thedavincimode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 22:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Has he developed a teflon coating, or is it my imagination&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Purely a result of the oleaginous little dumpling&#039;s glands working overtime during the summer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Has he developed a teflon coating, or is it my imagination</p></blockquote>
<p>Purely a result of the oleaginous little dumpling&#8217;s glands working overtime during the summer.</p>
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		<title>By: smttc</title>
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		<dc:creator>smttc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SCS, history tells us that Winston won&#039;t have a bar of the Greens being in government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SCS, history tells us that Winston won&#8217;t have a bar of the Greens being in government.</p>
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		<title>By: bringbackdemocracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>bringbackdemocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[National do have a problem with a viable coalition partner, especially with the demise of Act and the Maori party.
The Conservatives continue to remain a realistic option, especially as they have the potential to draw votes from NZ First and Labour.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>National do have a problem with a viable coalition partner, especially with the demise of Act and the Maori party.<br />
The Conservatives continue to remain a realistic option, especially as they have the potential to draw votes from NZ First and Labour.</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Cullen's Sidekick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir Cullen's Sidekick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This poll is actually bad news for National. The left block consists of Labour-Green-Mana-NZ First will easily form the Government though National could end up as the largest party. I think unfortunately due to lack of partners National will end up as a two term government. This is bad news for NZ as John Key and his Government has steered NZ skilfully through really tough economic times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This poll is actually bad news for National. The left block consists of Labour-Green-Mana-NZ First will easily form the Government though National could end up as the largest party. I think unfortunately due to lack of partners National will end up as a two term government. This is bad news for NZ as John Key and his Government has steered NZ skilfully through really tough economic times.</p>
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		<title>By: ChardonnayGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChardonnayGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good to see the Selfservatives polling within the margin of error anyway. Has anyone else noted that CC is currently missing in action in the context of the marriage equality debate and looks shinier? Has he developed a teflon coating, or is it my imagination :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see the Selfservatives polling within the margin of error anyway. Has anyone else noted that CC is currently missing in action in the context of the marriage equality debate and looks shinier? Has he developed a teflon coating, or is it my imagination <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: krazykiwi</title>
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		<dc:creator>krazykiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[pq - when will Winston pay back the &lt;b&gt;$158,000&lt;/b&gt; he still owes us?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pq &#8211; when will Winston pay back the <b>$158,000</b> he still owes us?</p>
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