Comments on: More from the buffoon

By: pq

pq — Sat, 23 Feb 2013 06:08:42 +0000

Steve Wrathall (111) Says:
February 23rd, 2013 at 1:02 pm
Just sold a mattress on trademe, and as took it out of the garage realised one of the neighbourhood moggies had been emptying its bladder onto one corner.

Knighthood for Gareth.

Know what you mean Steve , once the cat piss is in there its fucked .
I shut my garage at night besause many cats in this neighbourhood, and they don’t seem to have civilised toilet habits

By: Steve Wrathall

Steve Wrathall — Sat, 23 Feb 2013 00:02:16 +0000

Just sold a mattress on trademe, and as took it out of the garage realised one of the neighbourhood moggies had been emptying its bladder onto one corner.

Knighthood for Gareth.

By: Tom Jackson

Tom Jackson — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 19:28:54 +0000

Isn’t it disgraceful Tom. How dare they. A dog at the beach, loping around and just being a great big silly, as they often do, at the beach. Well I never.

Or they could simply go to one of the many beaches that doesn’t have “No Dogs at Any Time” signs posted everywhere by the local council. But that would require exercising some kind of responsibility on their part, or the ability to read which they don’t seem to possess. What part of “No Dogs” don’t these morons understand?

You’re the kind of feral idiot I’m talking about. If people were responsible with their animals, we wouldn’t need draconian rules.

By: hj

hj — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:45:48 +0000

I see the buffoon Morgan doesn’t think councils should fund infrastructure for new developments.
That aint the soft gentle massaging (of the facts) the building industry wants is it?

By: PaulD

PaulD — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:45:43 +0000

pq, no family moggy mentioned but cats certainly are “2.3 The biggest threats to our forests
There are a number of mammals that threaten our native ecosystems – possums,
deer, wild pigs, rats, feral cats and stoats to name a few. However, in terms
of forests there are three that consistently feature on the ‘most wanted’ list –
possums, rats and stoats.” “3.4 … DOC faces a much greater challenge. It must try to kill rats and stoats as well as possums, along with other pests such as cats.”

Why does the SPCA decide that a cat colony isn’t feral just because some nutter promises to feed them?

By: pq

pq — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:24:31 +0000

yes here it goes
a report on which predators are harmimg NZ birds
No moggy mentioned

http://www.pce.parliament.nz/assets/Uploads/PCE-1080.pdf

By: pq

pq — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:16:05 +0000

Sorry I can not find the paper, but it was from Commissioner of Environement mainly about how to deal with bird and tree predators. It dealt with 1080 extensively. Our main enemies of birds are tree climbers, .. possums eat eggs, stoats just move in and eat anything alive ir dead flesh and so do rats. Within the article there was no mention of family cat who gets the odd black bird.
Gareth Morgan is completely mad, he is not dangerous any more and totally isolated with his money and his
moustache and hair lip

By: pq

pq — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:55:01 +0000

By: Reid

Reid — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:35:28 +0000

Lots of wealthy people who never have to work again take up social causes and in the case of the extremely rich not always but often there are hidden agendas. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the work of George Soros are but two of the more well-known global examples, albeit most people really do think their works are designed to benefit the recipients of their largesse because that’s what the media says and in the latter’s case, most people don’t even know what he actually does fund, because the media doesn’t tell people. But the point is it seems to be a trait of the global rich, to do this sort of thing, under the cover of “philanthropy.”

However here in tiny little naive NZ, we find our tiny little junior George Soros local equivalent trying on the same thing but instead of being all subtle and understated about it like the big boys are, Gareth goes completely OTT from the get-go, immediately blurting out the main objective and then not resiling when it appears the populace isn’t very mad keen on the idea of getting rid of their beloved living companions. I mean crikey, who woulda thunk. Apparently he doesn’t even get the elementary fact that cats are wild animals, they enjoy hunting, that’s what their genetic structure is, and you can’t really do that indoors and remain a healthy, free wild animal, even if you spend your entire life indoors and you’ve known nothing else since birth, since it’s in your genes. Apparently, Gareth doesn’t even get that.

But he’ll continue with this, I can tell. He won’t give up, that’s not Gareth. He didn’t get where he is today, by giving up. I suggest he talks to Peter Jackson or Abramov or James Cameron. One of them could probably put him in touch with one of the big boys who could explain how to go about it in a way that achieves the objective yet doesn’t make him look like a complete and utter plonker in the eyes of just about everyone in NZ apart from his immediate family. But it may be too late, for this campaign. They may counsel him it’s just a bridge too far. They may say look, cut your losses, you can’t win, it’s too late to turn it around. Publicly apologise, pay for a giant indoor cattery, with a secret waterslide if you really want to torture them, but leave it at that and just move on. Try this plastic surgeon in Switzerland and start again.

The problem is that New Zealanders are feral. Case in point: go to any beach with a “no dogs” sign. And there’s bound to be at least one asshole with a dog, probably unleashed and running up to random people.

Isn’t it disgraceful Tom. How dare they. A dog at the beach, loping around and just being a great big silly, as they often do, at the beach. Well I never.

By: Tom Jackson

Tom Jackson — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:17:08 +0000

Nope. North America. Raccoons and the like don’t do well with cats, so they stay indoors. Works just fine.

It’s really simple. Don’t force other people to live with the unpleasant consequences of your private choice of pet.

By: Manolo

Manolo — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:10:12 +0000

Other countries manage with indoor cats.

Cuba? It cannot be North Korea, where cats are eaten.

By: Tom Jackson

Tom Jackson — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:07:39 +0000

For people who supposedly care about property rights, you seem fine with people keeping animals that wander and cause a nuisance to others.

Find a way to keep your cat on your own property, or don’t have a cat. It’s that simple. Other countries manage with indoor cats.

By: Eisenhower

Eisenhower — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 04:29:49 +0000

Feral birds! Won’t someone think of the insects???

By: The Scorned

The Scorned — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 04:08:50 +0000

Take my cats life I take yours…..fairs fair…

By: Jack5

Jack5 — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 03:18:27 +0000

Better a plague of cats than a plague of rats.

By: Ross12

Ross12 — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 03:07:43 +0000

I think the line being drawn by many on this that because Gareth has taken on an environmental issue his politics must Green is absolutely ridiculous.
I happen to agree with the general thrust of his argument on this ( maybe not the detail of it) but my political views are far from the general Green Politics ( most of which are just far left and little to do with the environment now).
People who have concerns about an environmental issue can come from all political persuasions.

By: hj

hj — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 03:05:03 +0000

@ Chris Snot:
My point was that I care about the black bird in the garden.

By: Bullion

Bullion — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 02:46:57 +0000

The issue of cats having a negative impact on NZ’s native species (not just birds) has been made many times before e.g.:
http://tvnz.co.nz/close-up/thursday-may-17-4892662/video?vid=4892861
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/blogs/in-our-nature/8215461/Staging-a-pussy-riot

The only reason this issue has gotten attention and been a topic of discussion is because of Gareth’s use of hyperbole. You only hope that those alerted to the issue look at the facts presented:
http://sciblogs.co.nz/politecol/?tag=cat

And then see that there are steps you can take to minimise the impacts on NZ:
http://garethsworld.com/catstogo/#section-n5

By: dime

dime — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 02:22:35 +0000

trout – i suggest moving to be a better area.

By: Yvette

Yvette — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:48:26 +0000

My cat is an avian liquidator – she does kill birds.
So far this year she is one ahead of the number I have hit in the car, on the nearby country road where it is impossible to avoid those birds that burst out of the long grass at an unfortunate moment.