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		<title>By: willtruth</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/nanny_new_york.html/comment-page-1#comment-1103861</link>
		<dc:creator>willtruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This particular policy might be misguided, but that doesn&#039;t mean all paternalistic policies are misguided. Most of us agree with having a degree of paternalism. For example we support infant clothing safety laws that &quot;trample&quot; on the right of manufacturers and consumers to make their own deals and agreements on a case by case basis.  For some thoughtful analysis on the pros and cons of paternalistic policies, here&#039;s an interesting review from the author of &quot;Nudge&quot;.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2013/mar/07/its-your-own-good/?pagination=false]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This particular policy might be misguided, but that doesn&#8217;t mean all paternalistic policies are misguided. Most of us agree with having a degree of paternalism. For example we support infant clothing safety laws that &#8220;trample&#8221; on the right of manufacturers and consumers to make their own deals and agreements on a case by case basis.  For some thoughtful analysis on the pros and cons of paternalistic policies, here&#8217;s an interesting review from the author of &#8220;Nudge&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2013/mar/07/its-your-own-good/?pagination=false" rel="nofollow">http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2013/mar/07/its-your-own-good/?pagination=false</a></p>
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		<title>By: Harriet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harriet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And what was that Tea Party slogan - about socialist Obamacare?

&quot; If Americans think that Healthcare is expensive.........then wait till it is &#039;free&#039; ! &quot;  :cool:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what was that Tea Party slogan &#8211; about socialist Obamacare?</p>
<p>&#8221; If Americans think that Healthcare is expensive&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;then wait till it is &#8216;free&#8217; ! &#8221;  <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Fletch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fletch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check out this nannying as well - banning deer meat being served to the homeless. It&#039;s a disgraceful waste!

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The Louisiana Dept. of Health and Hospitals would rather the homeless go hungry than let them eat deer steaks provided by generous hunters.

That law has hunters across the Sportsman’s Paradise outraged after health officials ordered a rescue mission to destroy $8,000 worth of deer meat because venison is not allowed to be served in homeless shelters.

The Dept. of Health and Hospitals ordered the staff at the Shreveport-Bossier Rescue Mission to throw 1,600 pounds of donated venison in garbage bins – and then ordered then to douse the meat with Clorox – so other animals would not eat the meat.

“Deer meat is not permitted to be served in a shelter, restaurant or any other public eating establishment in Louisiana,” a Health Dept. official told me. “While we applaud the good intentions of the hunters who donated this meat, we must protect the people who eat at the Rescue Mission, and we cannot allow a potentially serious health threat to endanger the public.”

That statement set off a firestorm among hunters and lawmakers who called it outrageous and insulting.

“That’s a mild understatement,” said Richard Campbell, one of the founders of Hunters for the Hungry, a group that has been donating wild game to shelters since 1993. “Hunters are going nuts over it. It’s created an outrage across our state and even over into Mississippi.”

The controversy started when someone being fed at the rescue mission complained about being fed deer meat.

Henry Martin, executive director of the mission, told me they’ve been serving deer meat for years – from deer chili to deer spaghetti.

“This was really good meat,” he said. “It’s high in protein and low in cholesterol. It’s very healthy.”

Martin said he was extremely bothered by the way state health inspectors handled the situation.

“You would think we would have due process,” he said. “But they meant to destroy the meat – that’s for sure.”

The mission’s chef asked if they could at least return the meat to the processing plant – but the state officials said no.

“They actually took it out to the dumpsters, split the packages open and poured Clorox on it,” Martin told me.

He said the rescue mission serves 200,000 meals a year – without a single dime of assistance from the state or federal governments. As a result of the confiscation, he said as many as 3,200 meals were lost.

“It seems like this was a senseless act,” he said. “I don’t think hungry people who come to our mission appreciate the fact they could have been eating some really good venison and as it is now – no one can eat it.”

The Health Dept. defended their actions and said they had to pour Clorox on the meat as an “extra precaution so that animals would not eat it from the dumpster and become sick or die.”

“This is a process called ‘denaturing,’” they stated. Campbell said the venison comes from deer management programs – where hunters have to kill a lot of deer.

“We ask our hunters once they fill up their own freezers to give the extra to the needy,” he said.

Once the deer is donated, a local processing plant prepares the meat for the shelters. And hunters in the Sportsman’s Paradise have always responded to the call – including State Rep. Jeff Thompson.

“As a hunter and somebody who has personally donated deer to this program, I’m outraged and very concerned,” he told me. “You hear about these stories anywhere and it’s a concern – but when it happens in your own backyard it’s insulting.”

Thompson said he is meeting with the heads of state agencies as well as state lawmakers to make sure the rules are changed.

“We take pride in helping our neighbors and to see thousands of dollars worth of meat that would help the hungry go to waste is absolutely disturbing to me,” he said.

I suppose in Louisiana beggars can be choosers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out this nannying as well &#8211; banning deer meat being served to the homeless. It&#8217;s a disgraceful waste!</p>
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The Louisiana Dept. of Health and Hospitals would rather the homeless go hungry than let them eat deer steaks provided by generous hunters.</p>
<p>That law has hunters across the Sportsman’s Paradise outraged after health officials ordered a rescue mission to destroy $8,000 worth of deer meat because venison is not allowed to be served in homeless shelters.</p>
<p>The Dept. of Health and Hospitals ordered the staff at the Shreveport-Bossier Rescue Mission to throw 1,600 pounds of donated venison in garbage bins – and then ordered then to douse the meat with Clorox – so other animals would not eat the meat.</p>
<p>“Deer meat is not permitted to be served in a shelter, restaurant or any other public eating establishment in Louisiana,” a Health Dept. official told me. “While we applaud the good intentions of the hunters who donated this meat, we must protect the people who eat at the Rescue Mission, and we cannot allow a potentially serious health threat to endanger the public.”</p>
<p>That statement set off a firestorm among hunters and lawmakers who called it outrageous and insulting.</p>
<p>“That’s a mild understatement,” said Richard Campbell, one of the founders of Hunters for the Hungry, a group that has been donating wild game to shelters since 1993. “Hunters are going nuts over it. It’s created an outrage across our state and even over into Mississippi.”</p>
<p>The controversy started when someone being fed at the rescue mission complained about being fed deer meat.</p>
<p>Henry Martin, executive director of the mission, told me they’ve been serving deer meat for years – from deer chili to deer spaghetti.</p>
<p>“This was really good meat,” he said. “It’s high in protein and low in cholesterol. It’s very healthy.”</p>
<p>Martin said he was extremely bothered by the way state health inspectors handled the situation.</p>
<p>“You would think we would have due process,” he said. “But they meant to destroy the meat – that’s for sure.”</p>
<p>The mission’s chef asked if they could at least return the meat to the processing plant – but the state officials said no.</p>
<p>“They actually took it out to the dumpsters, split the packages open and poured Clorox on it,” Martin told me.</p>
<p>He said the rescue mission serves 200,000 meals a year – without a single dime of assistance from the state or federal governments. As a result of the confiscation, he said as many as 3,200 meals were lost.</p>
<p>“It seems like this was a senseless act,” he said. “I don’t think hungry people who come to our mission appreciate the fact they could have been eating some really good venison and as it is now – no one can eat it.”</p>
<p>The Health Dept. defended their actions and said they had to pour Clorox on the meat as an “extra precaution so that animals would not eat it from the dumpster and become sick or die.”</p>
<p>“This is a process called ‘denaturing,’” they stated. Campbell said the venison comes from deer management programs – where hunters have to kill a lot of deer.</p>
<p>“We ask our hunters once they fill up their own freezers to give the extra to the needy,” he said.</p>
<p>Once the deer is donated, a local processing plant prepares the meat for the shelters. And hunters in the Sportsman’s Paradise have always responded to the call – including State Rep. Jeff Thompson.</p>
<p>“As a hunter and somebody who has personally donated deer to this program, I’m outraged and very concerned,” he told me. “You hear about these stories anywhere and it’s a concern – but when it happens in your own backyard it’s insulting.”</p>
<p>Thompson said he is meeting with the heads of state agencies as well as state lawmakers to make sure the rules are changed.</p>
<p>“We take pride in helping our neighbors and to see thousands of dollars worth of meat that would help the hungry go to waste is absolutely disturbing to me,” he said.</p>
<p>I suppose in Louisiana beggars can be choosers.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Dean Papa</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/nanny_new_york.html/comment-page-1#comment-1103671</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Papa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 07:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You probably can order a pitcher of soft drink, as long as you then serve the soft drink in individual cups, which I&#039;m guessing is the purpose of using a pitcher in the first place. Although I suppose you could drink straight from the pitcher, but that would be unusual. The NYP is a Murdoch paper, so we shouldn&#039;t expect a high standard of journalism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You probably can order a pitcher of soft drink, as long as you then serve the soft drink in individual cups, which I&#8217;m guessing is the purpose of using a pitcher in the first place. Although I suppose you could drink straight from the pitcher, but that would be unusual. The NYP is a Murdoch paper, so we shouldn&#8217;t expect a high standard of journalism.</p>
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		<title>By: pq</title>
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		<dc:creator>pq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 05:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hinamanu (2,184) Says above : February 26th, 2013 at 2:04 pm first response 
&quot;
Also illegal to collect rain water in America now , Man Arrested For Collecting Rainwater On His Property
 July 30, 2012 by Bryan Nash, Man Arrested For Collecting Rainwater On His Property
 PHOTOS.COM  Guy Harrington was sentenced to 30 days in jail and forced to a pay a $1,500 fine for collecting rainwater.
 When it rains, it pours. A man in Oregon has been sentenced to 30 days in jail for collecting rainwater on his property. The government determined he had “illegal reservoirs.”  
Guy Harrington of rural Eagle Point, Ore., collects rainwater and snow runoff in three locations on his property. Harrington believes a 1925 law is behind the ruckus. The law established that the city of Medford would hold the rights to all the sources of water in the Big Butte Creek watershed and tributaries  

http://personalliberty.com/2012/07/30/man-arrested-for-collecting-rainwater-on-his-property/
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pq says
I went to Medford, it was so hot in july they fine sprayed us with water from above to hotel seats outside.
 I washed my shirt and put it on, and I walked ourtside and my shirt was dry 40 degrees immediately 
The above agument is about the City and State reataining control of water fall off,
It is disgraceful of course, you can not collect water from your own fall down there in Oregon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hinamanu (2,184) Says above : February 26th, 2013 at 2:04 pm first response<br />
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Also illegal to collect rain water in America now , Man Arrested For Collecting Rainwater On His Property<br />
 July 30, 2012 by Bryan Nash, Man Arrested For Collecting Rainwater On His Property<br />
 PHOTOS.COM  Guy Harrington was sentenced to 30 days in jail and forced to a pay a $1,500 fine for collecting rainwater.<br />
 When it rains, it pours. A man in Oregon has been sentenced to 30 days in jail for collecting rainwater on his property. The government determined he had “illegal reservoirs.”<br />
Guy Harrington of rural Eagle Point, Ore., collects rainwater and snow runoff in three locations on his property. Harrington believes a 1925 law is behind the ruckus. The law established that the city of Medford would hold the rights to all the sources of water in the Big Butte Creek watershed and tributaries  </p>
<p><a href="http://personalliberty.com/2012/07/30/man-arrested-for-collecting-rainwater-on-his-property/" rel="nofollow">http://personalliberty.com/2012/07/30/man-arrested-for-collecting-rainwater-on-his-property/</a><br />
&#8221;<br />
pq says<br />
I went to Medford, it was so hot in july they fine sprayed us with water from above to hotel seats outside.<br />
 I washed my shirt and put it on, and I walked ourtside and my shirt was dry 40 degrees immediately<br />
The above agument is about the City and State reataining control of water fall off,<br />
It is disgraceful of course, you can not collect water from your own fall down there in Oregon.</p>
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		<title>By: mara</title>
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		<dc:creator>mara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 05:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whatever happened to civil disobedience? Democracy has its good points but when the elected go mad and become overbearing, rational  citizens should laugh and ignore them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever happened to civil disobedience? Democracy has its good points but when the elected go mad and become overbearing, rational  citizens should laugh and ignore them.</p>
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		<title>By: shoreboy57</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/nanny_new_york.html/comment-page-1#comment-1103602</link>
		<dc:creator>shoreboy57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 05:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have no doubt this is what Robyn Toomath and her friends at Fight the Obesity Epidemic (FOE) want and more. They are seeking a complete ban on sale of Coca Cola and similar beverages.
Their latest argument is obesity is a genetic issue. Some are wired so to be incapable of making good food  choices (their means of getting round the personal responsibility issue -it is impossible for these people to help themselves.
Couple that with the famed Dr Doug Sellman who is now peddling the line that such products are addictive and agin you have teh message that the public cant help but stuff themselves with bad food
Media lap up these fools]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have no doubt this is what Robyn Toomath and her friends at Fight the Obesity Epidemic (FOE) want and more. They are seeking a complete ban on sale of Coca Cola and similar beverages.<br />
Their latest argument is obesity is a genetic issue. Some are wired so to be incapable of making good food  choices (their means of getting round the personal responsibility issue -it is impossible for these people to help themselves.<br />
Couple that with the famed Dr Doug Sellman who is now peddling the line that such products are addictive and agin you have teh message that the public cant help but stuff themselves with bad food<br />
Media lap up these fools</p>
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		<title>By: Northland Wahine</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/nanny_new_york.html/comment-page-1#comment-1103598</link>
		<dc:creator>Northland Wahine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 04:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d prefer my pizza to be served with beer...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d prefer my pizza to be served with beer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pauleastbay</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/nanny_new_york.html/comment-page-1#comment-1103587</link>
		<dc:creator>Pauleastbay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 04:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[new york, new york- you can buy a whore and boy, or crack till die but on manhatten street corners but you can&#039;t buy a tub of coke to drown in  , good god.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>new york, new york- you can buy a whore and boy, or crack till die but on manhatten street corners but you can&#8217;t buy a tub of coke to drown in  , good god.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulL</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 03:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last time I was in the USA a 3 litre bucket of coke had about 300mls of coke and 2.7 litres of ice in it.  Things are not necessarily as they seem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last time I was in the USA a 3 litre bucket of coke had about 300mls of coke and 2.7 litres of ice in it.  Things are not necessarily as they seem.</p>
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		<title>By: La Grand Fromage</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/nanny_new_york.html/comment-page-1#comment-1103570</link>
		<dc:creator>La Grand Fromage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 03:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@dime. They are not banning them. They are simply saying that, as a bunch of fat fucks, the sepo&#039;s obviously don&#039;t get what a personal serving of soda should be and the restaurants aren&#039;t helping them with this info by offering massive 3 litre buckets as being a legitimate personal serving for consumption at one sitting.

If you want to drink 3 litres of coke then no one is going to stop you but if you are in a restaurant you will have to do it from 6 different glasses which might help you realise what a fat, greedy cunt you are being.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dime. They are not banning them. They are simply saying that, as a bunch of fat fucks, the sepo&#8217;s obviously don&#8217;t get what a personal serving of soda should be and the restaurants aren&#8217;t helping them with this info by offering massive 3 litre buckets as being a legitimate personal serving for consumption at one sitting.</p>
<p>If you want to drink 3 litres of coke then no one is going to stop you but if you are in a restaurant you will have to do it from 6 different glasses which might help you realise what a fat, greedy cunt you are being.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulL</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 03:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It comes back to fundamental rights, and it is one of the things I like about the USA (notwithstanding that this example is actually from the USA).

A strict utilitarian argument leads us to the conclusion that it&#039;s OK to feed the Christians to the lions, so long as enough Romans enjoy watching it to outweigh the extreme displeasure that the Christians feel.

To put it another way, there are some things that shouldn&#039;t be decided by majority vote, because they are a matter of freedom - the many don&#039;t have the right to oppress the few.

Sure, the size of your soda bottle isn&#039;t exactly a red line issue, but there&#039;s a reason there&#039;s a saying about death by a thousand cuts.  I believe that:
1. Policies of this nature don&#039;t have any useful affect on obesity - the fat people just buy multiple drinks, the skinny people who are really thirsty get disadvantaged
2. The deadweight cost of regulation is quite substantial
3. There is a substantial impact on freedom of people starting to think it&#039;s OK for the government (meaning a few well meaning lobbyists) to tell you what to do every minute of the day

As always, it&#039;s the chardonnay socialists who come up with these ideas.  And funnily enough none of these ideas involve restricting consumption of chardonnay.  Like those of my friends who are convinced that the planet is coming to an end through global warming, but still personally drive an SUV because it&#039;s much more convenient with the kids.  NIMBYism in another form.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It comes back to fundamental rights, and it is one of the things I like about the USA (notwithstanding that this example is actually from the USA).</p>
<p>A strict utilitarian argument leads us to the conclusion that it&#8217;s OK to feed the Christians to the lions, so long as enough Romans enjoy watching it to outweigh the extreme displeasure that the Christians feel.</p>
<p>To put it another way, there are some things that shouldn&#8217;t be decided by majority vote, because they are a matter of freedom &#8211; the many don&#8217;t have the right to oppress the few.</p>
<p>Sure, the size of your soda bottle isn&#8217;t exactly a red line issue, but there&#8217;s a reason there&#8217;s a saying about death by a thousand cuts.  I believe that:<br />
1. Policies of this nature don&#8217;t have any useful affect on obesity &#8211; the fat people just buy multiple drinks, the skinny people who are really thirsty get disadvantaged<br />
2. The deadweight cost of regulation is quite substantial<br />
3. There is a substantial impact on freedom of people starting to think it&#8217;s OK for the government (meaning a few well meaning lobbyists) to tell you what to do every minute of the day</p>
<p>As always, it&#8217;s the chardonnay socialists who come up with these ideas.  And funnily enough none of these ideas involve restricting consumption of chardonnay.  Like those of my friends who are convinced that the planet is coming to an end through global warming, but still personally drive an SUV because it&#8217;s much more convenient with the kids.  NIMBYism in another form.</p>
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		<title>By: krazykiwi</title>
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		<dc:creator>krazykiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 03:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marketing opportunity in Times Square: &lt;b&gt;Bring your thirst to New Zealand&lt;/b&gt;  :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketing opportunity in Times Square: <b>Bring your thirst to New Zealand</b>  <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dime</title>
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		<dc:creator>dime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 03:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jimbob - are you saying maori and pacific islanders are too stupid to realise they could just buy 6 cans instead of the 2 litre bottle?

groups get traction because of moron people out there &quot;oh i dont drink soft drinks, gross. they should ban them&quot;. 

problem is morons, eventually they get to something YOU enjoy and then how do you like it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimbob &#8211; are you saying maori and pacific islanders are too stupid to realise they could just buy 6 cans instead of the 2 litre bottle?</p>
<p>groups get traction because of moron people out there &#8220;oh i dont drink soft drinks, gross. they should ban them&#8221;. </p>
<p>problem is morons, eventually they get to something YOU enjoy and then how do you like it?</p>
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		<title>By: labrator</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/nanny_new_york.html/comment-page-1#comment-1103531</link>
		<dc:creator>labrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 02:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They should&#039;ve gone the smoking route first and put photos of fat children on the cans. And then photos of 300kg behemoths being removed via crane through a hole in the side of their house.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should&#8217;ve gone the smoking route first and put photos of fat children on the cans. And then photos of 300kg behemoths being removed via crane through a hole in the side of their house.</p>
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		<title>By: The Scorned</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/nanny_new_york.html/comment-page-1#comment-1103530</link>
		<dc:creator>The Scorned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 02:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All because the state mussled its way into healthcare and taxes you for the inconvenience....get them out.....solved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All because the state mussled its way into healthcare and taxes you for the inconvenience&#8230;.get them out&#8230;..solved.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulL</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 02:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fat end of the wedge.  Implying that this is the end of their aspirations, rather than the start.  I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s true.  Perhaps it&#039;s sort of the middle of the wedge - or even just a little bit beyond the point?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fat end of the wedge.  Implying that this is the end of their aspirations, rather than the start.  I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s true.  Perhaps it&#8217;s sort of the middle of the wedge &#8211; or even just a little bit beyond the point?</p>
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		<title>By: b1gdaddynz</title>
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		<dc:creator>b1gdaddynz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 01:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@hinamanu I thought New Zealand had problems but that is just disgusting...they should have thumped the little weasel and then told him to explain to the queue of starving people that they couldn&#039;t eat!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@hinamanu I thought New Zealand had problems but that is just disgusting&#8230;they should have thumped the little weasel and then told him to explain to the queue of starving people that they couldn&#8217;t eat!</p>
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		<title>By: La Grand Fromage</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/nanny_new_york.html/comment-page-1#comment-1103495</link>
		<dc:creator>La Grand Fromage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 01:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well said RRM. 

Being able to guzzle gallons of pop from one vessel was a key freedom that the founding fathers intended when creating the USA.

When I grew up coke only came in small cans or bottles along side the massive &quot;family sized&quot; one litre bottle. It makes me realise we were savages back then, I don&#039;t know how we coped, it was like living in soviet Russia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said RRM. </p>
<p>Being able to guzzle gallons of pop from one vessel was a key freedom that the founding fathers intended when creating the USA.</p>
<p>When I grew up coke only came in small cans or bottles along side the massive &#8220;family sized&#8221; one litre bottle. It makes me realise we were savages back then, I don&#8217;t know how we coped, it was like living in soviet Russia.</p>
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		<title>By: Pauleastbay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pauleastbay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 01:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yep jimbob, there will now be no more fat people in New York, brilliant, this law has solved the problem of fatt lazy bastards, awesome]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep jimbob, there will now be no more fat people in New York, brilliant, this law has solved the problem of fatt lazy bastards, awesome</p>
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