Using a similar analogy to tristanb’s, imagine public roads with checkpoints at every intersection to ensure all vehicles travelling on the road, and their occupants and cargo, are legal.

Actually, it was Reid with that sensible analogy.

I just said something stupid about rape. I wouldn’t try following my analogy any further!

That’s Hollyweird, RightNow.

Disgusting, isn’t it. :0

Some do throttle P2P traffic as a relatively small number of very heavy users gobble up a lot of bandwidth. More common in Oz than here.

I really don’t get what the concern is about a $25 fee – they just need to get, say 10, convictions and show that people can get caught when they pirate then it will stop a lot of it.

Of course, it’s not that hard to use a torrent downloader which hides one’s IP address anyway.

An ISP could put filters on their network to prevent torrent traffic (as an example) – they would then have to charge more to cover the infrastructure cost, and their network would be slower due to the filter overhead.

Using a similar analogy to tristanb’s, imagine public roads with checkpoints at every intersection to ensure all vehicles travelling on the road, and their occupants and cargo, are legal.

So you’re saying we should charge them $200 RightNow? I agree. They’re Americans from Hollyweird. If they can’t afford it, who can?

But seriously, imagine how many copyright violations they’d pore over before they decided to “invest” their eventual say $700 as an upshot of a likely worldwide fee revolt, inspired by us! Hurray! We’ll become the interweb’s Norway. Ha! Take that, Norway, you Norwegians you.

If we play this right, this could be much more fun than the nuclear ships row. This isn’t just the poofy little US govt with its diplomacy and tact, this is them plus Hollyweird, in full plummage.

Let battle commence!

I don’t know why Hollyweird is worried quite frankly because the NSA vacuums all the traffic and stores it in giant data centres and if a person’s name is called up their software collates a complete profile of that person’s activities at any given moment or they can view the whole thing in time sequence slices, if they like. At some point they will pass a law allowing that to be mined and used in court. Why not wait till then?

BTW, I wonder what the TPP is going to say about this? I bet it won’t be good.

As ISP’s earn income from selling data they are directly profiting from piracy.

Not to mention those damn rape crisis counsellors directly profiting from rape.

Only in the same sense someone who provides a road profits from those who drive on it for nefarious purposes. What should they do? Not provide the road to everyone because some people do that sometimes?

ISPs: “That will cost us about $100.”

Government: “We’re standing our ground. We’ll make a law that enables you to spy on internet users, contact them with just their IP address, consider them guilty based on what we say, allow this for a civil (not criminal) matter, and have your legal system pay for the court procedures. But you’ve got to pay $25 for it.”

What a brave government we have. Nice to know they’re on our side.

” I am one of the NZ public and I never bent over.

Well said from another Net Taxpayer