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		<title>By: gump</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/some_bsa_complaints.html/comment-page-1#comment-1091953</link>
		<dc:creator>gump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 04:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@iMP

In my experience, most TGs live in stealth mode and are afraid of being outed or identified as TG. 

This means that they are careful to never refer to each other as anything aside than the gender with which they identify.

There are, of course, some TGs who announce their situation publicly (such as Georgina Beyer). But that seems to be fairly rare.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@iMP</p>
<p>In my experience, most TGs live in stealth mode and are afraid of being outed or identified as TG. </p>
<p>This means that they are careful to never refer to each other as anything aside than the gender with which they identify.</p>
<p>There are, of course, some TGs who announce their situation publicly (such as Georgina Beyer). But that seems to be fairly rare.</p>
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		<title>By: iMP</title>
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		<dc:creator>iMP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 00:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, do trans-gender persons of either gender or none at all, use &quot;trannies&quot;?  ie transistor radios?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, do trans-gender persons of either gender or none at all, use &#8220;trannies&#8221;?  ie transistor radios?</p>
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		<title>By: edhunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>edhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 00:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rape &#039;is&#039; a real crime &amp; a serial rapist of the calibre of Stewert Wilson should never have been let out of prison in the first place &amp; I&#039;d go a step further &amp; say a nice peaceful sleep from which he would never wake up from should have  been a sentencing option.
 But that is not the case, Wilson is back in the community under very strict conditions, constant referral to him as the Beast of Blenheim by the MSM does more damage than good to any chance of his successful rehabilitation.
 This is not the MSM reporting a story this is them sensationalising a story (nothing unusal there). 
It would seem you get better treatment from the media for being  convicted of infanticide or patricide than of being a mere rapist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rape &#8216;is&#8217; a real crime &amp; a serial rapist of the calibre of Stewert Wilson should never have been let out of prison in the first place &amp; I&#8217;d go a step further &amp; say a nice peaceful sleep from which he would never wake up from should have  been a sentencing option.<br />
 But that is not the case, Wilson is back in the community under very strict conditions, constant referral to him as the Beast of Blenheim by the MSM does more damage than good to any chance of his successful rehabilitation.<br />
 This is not the MSM reporting a story this is them sensationalising a story (nothing unusal there).<br />
It would seem you get better treatment from the media for being  convicted of infanticide or patricide than of being a mere rapist.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Thomson</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/some_bsa_complaints.html/comment-page-1#comment-1091857</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;However, it agreed that the host’s use of the term was unnecessary in context and potentially offensive to the transgender community. Having upheld the complaint, the broadcaster said that the host had been counselled on the matter.&quot;

So the complaint is upheld because they think it is *potentially* offensive to a particular group of people. How many of those people did the BSA actually ask? And how about the fact that their decision is *actually* offensive to people who value free speech and good humor.

I consider myself reasonably easily offended by things in the media, but I&#039;m puzzled about what it is about this that is so inappropriate. Is there a particular part of &#039;pre-op tranny&quot; that is considered pejorative? Is is the &quot;pre-op&quot; part or the &quot;tranny&quot; part, or the combination thereof? Is it the use of the abbreviation? Inquiring minds...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However, it agreed that the host’s use of the term was unnecessary in context and potentially offensive to the transgender community. Having upheld the complaint, the broadcaster said that the host had been counselled on the matter.&#8221;</p>
<p>So the complaint is upheld because they think it is *potentially* offensive to a particular group of people. How many of those people did the BSA actually ask? And how about the fact that their decision is *actually* offensive to people who value free speech and good humor.</p>
<p>I consider myself reasonably easily offended by things in the media, but I&#8217;m puzzled about what it is about this that is so inappropriate. Is there a particular part of &#8216;pre-op tranny&#8221; that is considered pejorative? Is is the &#8220;pre-op&#8221; part or the &#8220;tranny&#8221; part, or the combination thereof? Is it the use of the abbreviation? Inquiring minds&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RRM</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/some_bsa_complaints.html/comment-page-1#comment-1091841</link>
		<dc:creator>RRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;domestic violence, a significant social issue particularly in households containing white christian hetrosexual males who as you may not know yet are responsible for all the worlds ills&lt;/blockquote&gt;


:shock:

So have you stopped beating your wife yet, Andrei?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>domestic violence, a significant social issue particularly in households containing white christian hetrosexual males who as you may not know yet are responsible for all the worlds ills</p></blockquote>
<p> <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So have you stopped beating your wife yet, Andrei?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;What if it was a man slapping a woman?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He wouldn&#039;t be slapping her gazzmaniac, he&#039;d be beating the snot out of her and it would be fine because it would be &quot;&lt;i&gt;raising awareness&lt;/i&gt;&quot; to the issue of domestic violence, a significant social issue particularly in households containing white christian hetrosexual males who as you may not know yet are responsible for all the world&#039;s ills]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What if it was a man slapping a woman?</p></blockquote>
<p>He wouldn&#8217;t be slapping her gazzmaniac, he&#8217;d be beating the snot out of her and it would be fine because it would be &#8220;<i>raising awareness</i>&#8221; to the issue of domestic violence, a significant social issue particularly in households containing white christian hetrosexual males who as you may not know yet are responsible for all the world&#8217;s ills</p>
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		<title>By: gazzmaniac</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/some_bsa_complaints.html/comment-page-1#comment-1091799</link>
		<dc:creator>gazzmaniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 22:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Wayne Lowry complains that a promo for Coronation Street during Breakfast TV showed a woman slapping a man in the face. The horrors.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
What if it was a man slapping a woman?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wayne Lowry complains that a promo for Coronation Street during Breakfast TV showed a woman slapping a man in the face. The horrors.</p></blockquote>
<p>What if it was a man slapping a woman?</p>
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		<title>By: RRM</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/some_bsa_complaints.html/comment-page-1#comment-1091797</link>
		<dc:creator>RRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 22:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*Eunochs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Eunochs.</p>
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		<title>By: Harriet</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/some_bsa_complaints.html/comment-page-1#comment-1091794</link>
		<dc:creator>Harriet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 22:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Based on some of the conversations we have had over the last 40 minutes… when we talked about [name] becoming the editor of KIWIBLOG we have had a text which says, “[name] running a publication called KIWIBLOG is a bit like making a UNIK editor of PENTHOUSE.”.

Heh, that’s really funny. I suspect DAVID would find it great also. So what was complained about?

Formal complaint...blah...blah.....radio network....blah.....perpetuates bigotry and hatred...blah....

Oh, Good God. It was a jibe at DAVID, not UNIKS.   :cool:

See?....No demerits...just harmless Tuesday fun!   :cool:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on some of the conversations we have had over the last 40 minutes… when we talked about [name] becoming the editor of KIWIBLOG we have had a text which says, “[name] running a publication called KIWIBLOG is a bit like making a UNIK editor of PENTHOUSE.”.</p>
<p>Heh, that’s really funny. I suspect DAVID would find it great also. So what was complained about?</p>
<p>Formal complaint&#8230;blah&#8230;blah&#8230;..radio network&#8230;.blah&#8230;..perpetuates bigotry and hatred&#8230;blah&#8230;.</p>
<p>Oh, Good God. It was a jibe at DAVID, not UNIKS.   <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>See?&#8230;.No demerits&#8230;just harmless Tuesday fun!   <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: hmmokrightitis</title>
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		<dc:creator>hmmokrightitis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 22:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Correct me if Im wrong, but isnt every man a pre-op trannie?  Its merely a decision away...

And yes, red, for the record, I include you.  SPECIFICALLY you :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct me if Im wrong, but isnt every man a pre-op trannie?  Its merely a decision away&#8230;</p>
<p>And yes, red, for the record, I include you.  SPECIFICALLY you <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: radvad</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/some_bsa_complaints.html/comment-page-1#comment-1091772</link>
		<dc:creator>radvad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Oh, Good God. It was a jibe at Cam, not pre-op trannies.&quot;

So what if it was. Have pre-op trannies been elevated to protected status? Bah humbug.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oh, Good God. It was a jibe at Cam, not pre-op trannies.&#8221;</p>
<p>So what if it was. Have pre-op trannies been elevated to protected status? Bah humbug.</p>
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		<title>By: RRM</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/some_bsa_complaints.html/comment-page-1#comment-1091770</link>
		<dc:creator>RRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Not long ago the notion of two men &lt;b&gt;[landing on the moon]&lt;/b&gt; would have been dismissed out of hand as “nutty”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Not long ago the notion of two men <b>[landing on the moon]</b> would have been dismissed out of hand as “nutty”.</p></blockquote>
<p> <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MT_Tinman</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/some_bsa_complaints.html/comment-page-1#comment-1091769</link>
		<dc:creator>MT_Tinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once again confirmation that these bastards should be paying for their entertainment, not the poor bloody taxpayer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again confirmation that these bastards should be paying for their entertainment, not the poor bloody taxpayer.</p>
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		<title>By: RRM</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/some_bsa_complaints.html/comment-page-1#comment-1091767</link>
		<dc:creator>RRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I can just see a legion of nutters and malcontents doing daily complaints.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Doesn&#039;t this already exist? (Kiwiblog General Debate...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I can just see a legion of nutters and malcontents doing daily complaints.</p></blockquote>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t this already exist? (Kiwiblog General Debate&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Truthiz</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/some_bsa_complaints.html/comment-page-1#comment-1091765</link>
		<dc:creator>Truthiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know one fella, who would salivating at the prospect of an Online Communications Tribunal  ..  

;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know one fella, who would salivating at the prospect of an Online Communications Tribunal  ..  </p>
<p> <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: In Vino Veritas</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/some_bsa_complaints.html/comment-page-1#comment-1091755</link>
		<dc:creator>In Vino Veritas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would this be the queer James Burford? The same James Burford who dealt with queers and trans as a youth worker in Dunedin? The James Burford that is getting a studying for a doctorate in, wait for it: &quot;the connections between negative emotions and doctoral writing in the social sciences/humanities. Particularly focussed on the queer potential of negative affects to contribute to other ways of knowing doctoral writing/writer identities&quot;?
I kid you not. And he expects to get a job with this. If it is the same, what a twat. Its OK to call them trans, but not tranny&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would this be the queer James Burford? The same James Burford who dealt with queers and trans as a youth worker in Dunedin? The James Burford that is getting a studying for a doctorate in, wait for it: &#8220;the connections between negative emotions and doctoral writing in the social sciences/humanities. Particularly focussed on the queer potential of negative affects to contribute to other ways of knowing doctoral writing/writer identities&#8221;?<br />
I kid you not. And he expects to get a job with this. If it is the same, what a twat. Its OK to call them trans, but not tranny&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrei</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/some_bsa_complaints.html/comment-page-1#comment-1091752</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whoever it was who made the &quot;tranny&quot; comment should have used &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8264042/Gay-Jesus-billboard-not-offensive&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the &lt;i&gt;&quot;promoting debate&quot;&lt;/i&gt; defense&lt;/a&gt; which works for the ASA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever it was who made the &#8220;tranny&#8221; comment should have used <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8264042/Gay-Jesus-billboard-not-offensive" rel="nofollow">the <i>&#8220;promoting debate&#8221;</i> defense</a> which works for the ASA</p>
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		<title>By: kowtow</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/some_bsa_complaints.html/comment-page-1#comment-1091744</link>
		<dc:creator>kowtow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not long ago the notion of two men &quot;marrying&quot; would have been dismissed out of hand as &quot;nutty&quot;. Today that crazy notion is being bandied about as a human right!

The lunatics have taken over the asylum and what was once nutty is now being passed off as mainstream and normal and to criticse any of these new notions borders on the  criminal!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not long ago the notion of two men &#8220;marrying&#8221; would have been dismissed out of hand as &#8220;nutty&#8221;. Today that crazy notion is being bandied about as a human right!</p>
<p>The lunatics have taken over the asylum and what was once nutty is now being passed off as mainstream and normal and to criticse any of these new notions borders on the  criminal!</p>
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