The cancelled Aro Valley meeting

February 19th, 2013 at 11:00 am by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

What could have been yesterday’s hot political ticket was cancelled, apparently because of too much media interest.

Social media was abuzz at the prospect of NZ First MP outlining his “common sense” views at the Aro St Community Centre, in the first public speech since his infamous “Wogistan” comments came to light.

However organiser Hugh Barr said as a result of a “media beat up” the long organised event had been cancelled. “We were scared that the only people who would turn up would be media.”

Oh I don’t think they were really worried about a lack of people turning up. I knew a lot of people planning to attend.

 

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45 Responses to “The cancelled Aro Valley meeting”

  1. Redbaiter (7,968 comments) says:

    This country is held fast in the death grip of the cultural tyrants of Progressivism.

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  2. RRM (9,630 comments) says:

    It is cultural tyranny when a whole lot of people think your ideas are shit and they say so? :shock:

    (Freedom for MEEEEEEE, not for thee huh?)

    Dick Tosser showing his true colours: afraid to front up to a room of half-stoned Aro Valley Arts / political science students.

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  3. Redbaiter (7,968 comments) says:

    Its cultural tyranny when people are afraid to publicly voice ideas that do not conform to those of Progressives.

    This is just sick institutionalized tyranny and totalitarianism.

    Prosser’s treatment is designed to send a clear message to anyone else who may think of attacking the pseudo-liberal status quo.

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  4. Andrei (2,530 comments) says:

    Ah yes, the circus has been cancelled and an opportunity for the elites mindless rent-a-mob followers to be given an outing to shout abuse in front of TV cameras denied.

    Never mind, we can all primp and preen over the cancellation – and celebrate VICTORY, as another debate shut down as the forces of progress degeneration march forward.

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  5. WineOh (590 comments) says:

    Wait… TOO MUCH media interest? Isn’t that what political parties crave?

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  6. Pete George (23,270 comments) says:

    WineOh – Winston Peters craves attention for sure. Perhaps he wasn’t able to attend.

    Prosser could have used the opportunity to make his views and position clear, it would have been a great opportunity, but chose not to.

    Its cultural tyranny when people are afraid to publicly voice ideas that do not conform to those of Progressives.

    It’s gutlessness when someone who promotes their no-nonsense gonad dangling bravado in a bok and in magazine columns but as soon as the spotlight shines on him he backflips and dives for cover.

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  7. Redbaiter (7,968 comments) says:

    “It’s gutlessness when someone who promotes their no-nonsense gonad dangling bravado in a bok and in magazine columns but as soon as the spotlight shines on him he backflips and dives for cover.”

    Yes, so much braver to be all things to all men.

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  8. Pete George (23,270 comments) says:

    Red – Prosser copped out as badly as you often bluster and retreat when taken to task here.

    No one stopped him attending the meeting but himself.

    He had the most opportunity of pretty much every MP last week to have a platform to speak on, media were queueing up to let him say whatever he wanted to.

    He chose not to. Don’t try to blame that on everyone else.

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  9. Redbaiter (7,968 comments) says:

    Prosser had the entire forces of the totalitarian progressive state mustered against him. An event that a belly crawling political coward like yourself will never have to worry about.

    It is a common characteristic of all left wing totalitarian states to clamp down on any speech or thoughts or attitudes that might threaten their supremacy. The Nazis did it. The Fascists under Mussolini did it. The Soviets did it. The Chicoms are doing it today.

    And the culturally and politically ascendant Progressives are doing it throughout the west.

    There’s no surprise at all in seeing you and so many other gape jawed politically unaware and or hard left commenters cheering these events on. For myself, its nauseating to observe.

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  10. ex-golfer (155 comments) says:

    Prosser and his “gonads” could have attended the meeting as scheduled and said whatever he wanted.
    He “chose” not to.
    No one else to blame but him for “choosing” not to front.
    Now who’s the limp-wristed one?

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  11. RRM (9,630 comments) says:

    So let’s get this straight –

    This Cultural Tyranny, is it something organised from the top by the Ministry of Love, or is it just a whole lot of people agreeing on something?

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  12. Keeping Stock (10,166 comments) says:

    @ ex-golfer – I disagree. I rather suspect that Prosser received a command not to attend the meeting from the highest echelons of NZ First; Winston hates competition for the limelight :D

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  13. ex-golfer (155 comments) says:

    @ KS – so would that make Winston a Nazi, a Fascist, a Soviet, a Chicom or a culturally and politically ascendant Progressive?

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  14. Keeping Stock (10,166 comments) says:

    All of the above, and a control freak

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  15. eszett (2,355 comments) says:

    Its cultural tyranny when people are afraid to publicly voice ideas that do not conform to those of Progressives.

    Free speech and the right to free assembly. Oh, the tyranny.
    Oh dear, people may speak their mind.

    Isn’t it ironic that that you are the one who wants to surpress any dissent to what Prosser has said?

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  16. lastmanstanding (1,233 comments) says:

    Although I oppose what Richard Prosser said sadly every day freedom and speech are being further separated in New Zealand.

    I wont quote Voltaire but those with a brain should think very hard about the negative reactions to Prosser and start to see that slowly bit by bit the freedom to express ones opinions are being eroded by those who wish to ensure that citizens are only allowed to speak the Correct speak.

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  17. David Farrar (1,870 comments) says:

    if an MP comes out and says 34,000 New Zealand citizens should be banned from flying because they are or look Muslim, then he should be pilloried and castigated.

    If an MP came out sand said Jews should not be allowed to run banks, I’d say the same.

    We have freedom of speech. What some seem to want is freedom from consequences.

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  18. RRM (9,630 comments) says:

    bit by bit the freedom to express ones opinions are being eroded by those who wish to ensure that citizens are only allowed to speak the Correct speak.

    You don’t seem like someone who’d subscribe to the “there are no right or wrong answers, every child achieves in their own way…” PC nonsense, Lastmanstanding?

    Maybe it is simply wrong to say that all Muslims look like terrorists from Wogistan and should be barred from airlines?

    You know… rightwrong…?? ;-)

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  19. Redbaiter (7,968 comments) says:

    “If an MP comes out and says 34,000 New Zealand citizens should be banned from flying because they are or look Muslim, then he should be pilloried and castigated.”

    How about reasoned with?

    I’ve got two books on my bookshelf at the moment you need to read-

    Ben Shapiro- Bullies. How the left’s culture of fear and intimidation silences America.

    Greg Gutfield- The Joy of Hate. How to triumph over whiners in the age of phony outrage.

    You need to read them.

    This isn’t about Islam, its about daring to hold an unapproved opinion, and daring to advocate for that unapproved view.

    You mentioned Jews. You seem to forget that the German majority were once all for Hitler, and when those who opposed the Nazis were persecuted and murdered, nobody said anything.

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  20. RRM (9,630 comments) says:

    THE HITLER CARD! :-P

    http://s1010.beta.photobucket.com/user/RRM22/media/TheHitlerCard.jpg.html

    All of us bullying and persecuting Tosser are like Nazis tormenting the Jews. Oh, I see it all now. How could I have been so blind…?

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  21. Redbaiter (7,968 comments) says:

    “All of us”

    I’m not saying every one is like you RRM. You’re a special kind of jackal.

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  22. Griff (6,988 comments) says:

    Redbaiter the blogger who rants about not accessing any media that does not have a teabaggers stamp of approval.

    Fascism thrives when sheepie are manipulated by propaganda.

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  23. AG (1,797 comments) says:

    This isn’t about Islam, its about daring to hold an unapproved opinion, and daring to advocate for that unapproved view.

    Funny. I thought this was about daring to hold an unapproved opinion, then folding like a piece of wet cardboard at the thought of a room full of Aro Valley liberals frowning at you and tut-tutting through their hipster facial hair.

    Maybe reddy could step in and have a meeting at the Aro St Community Center and show us how REAL big gonaded lunatics do it?

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  24. Redbaiter (7,968 comments) says:

    None of you progressive scum would frighten me AG. I know you from history, and I know that as long as I have adequate personal security I am safe. Until you get in government, and eventually crush all dissent, and control the police and the armed forces, and then nobody is.

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  25. thedavincimode (6,589 comments) says:

    Oh dear. Guess who’s got a ladder in his brand new fish nets.

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  26. RRM (9,630 comments) says:

    Redbaiter rolls with FIVE armed Russian guards, don’t you know?

    Keep your free speech to yourself or you’ll get a taste of his AR-15 :lol:

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  27. Peter (1,662 comments) says:

    Ah, MMP. If your meeting is too well attended by the public, if things are getting just a little too representative, that’s a bad sign.

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  28. Pete George (23,270 comments) says:

    those with a brain should think very hard about the negative reactions to Prosser and start to see that slowly bit by bit the freedom to express ones opinions are being eroded by those who wish to ensure that citizens are only allowed to speak the Correct speak.

    Do you mean that when someone says or publishes something stupid no one should criticise just in case they get hurt feelings?

    Or does “the freedom to express ones opinions” cut both ways, where a right of response is as important as a right to speak in the first place?

    This “aw, someone said something back, it’s not fair” is wimpy crap.

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  29. AG (1,797 comments) says:

    None of you progressive scum would frighten me AG. I know you from history, and I know that as long as I have adequate personal security I am safe.

    So … the meeting is when?

    And isn’t “as long as I have adequate personal security I am safe” a bit of a tautology?

    And why do you have such personal security if you are not frightened of progressive scum?

    So many questions, which reddy will answer IN PERSON … when???

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  30. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Great comments Redbaiter especially at a time when the Turkish guy and his associates are making great progress in their long standing attempt to make criticising islam a crime world wide….I for one , will never shut up about it , but then I have lived , well existed under it. Many of the most vociferous in recent days , probably haven’t even visited an islamic hellhole.
    For an update on this world wide agenda and other things islamic , see Winds of Jihad.

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  31. Redbaiter (7,968 comments) says:

    “Do you mean that when someone says or publishes something stupid no one should criticise just in case they get hurt feelings?”

    One day you are going to say something with some small vestige of truth to it and I will collapse of shock.

    You know very well the outrage that followed Prosser’s comments amounted to much more than criticism.

    If he had murdered someone’s grandmother the reaction would have been far less.

    This country is a totalitarian progressive/ PC basket case and you need to FUCKING WAKE UP..!!

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  32. Rex Widerstrom (5,327 comments) says:

    Peter says:

    Ah, MMP. If your meeting is too well attended by the public, that’s a bad sign.

    Goodness me, our pampered and protected list MPs mustn’t ever have to face actual voters, Peter!

    All they must do is genuflect before the party powerbrokers to assure their list ranking, then settle back for three years of doing nothing whatsoever so they can give the appearance of “learning politics” before being promoted to Cabinet where they get to make laws and decisions curtailing the freedoms of those they do not represent and to whom they are unanswerable.

    Why do you think former electorate MPs, even those in safe seats, have in the past opted to become list-only candidates? MMP has made electors nothing more than an inconvenience which occasionally gets in the way of someone’s party-given right to rule.

    How dare mere citizens think they can question, let alone criticise, this new breed of emperors?!

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  33. Harriet (4,614 comments) says:

    RRM…AG….PG….davinci

    PG -”…Or does “the freedom to express ones opinions” cut both ways, where a right of response is as important as a right to speak in the first place?…”

    Fuck off you liars!

    Geert Wilders……..in aussi now… :cool:

    With well over 30 venues and counting rejecting a visiting Dutch MP, it is getting very hard indeed to see how freedom and democracy have much of a leg to stand on in Australia. Things may already be too late. When a guest speaker is not allowed to warn us of threats to our freedoms, then things may have reached the point of no return.

    One of the latest debacles was another Perth venue breaking its contract at the last minute, leaving many hundreds with nowhere to go. So at this late stage Wilders may not be able to speak there at all. In a democracy, allowing those with a different point of view the right to speak is paramount. But we are seeing this screeching to a halt here in Australia.

    The activist groups have been working overtime here, using the social media especially for a search and destroy mission: they have been asking anyone who knows where the meetings will be, or any catering for them, etc, to be exposed, so they can come and be their intolerant best – all in the name of tolerance of course.

    All of this has a name: it is called dhimmitude, and it fully proves Geert’s point. The silencing of all opposition and alternate opinion, which is a hallmark of Islam, is working very well here. So too is the radical left’s hatred of all contrary views.

    The odd thing is, all over the West the radical left is in bed with radical Islam. But as soon as the Islamists get into power, the first ones to lose their heads will be these stooges from the left.

    Like PG….RMM…AG….Davinci…..“useful idiots”. :cool:

    This of course was the phrase Lenin used of all those gullible and ignorant Westerners who actually supported the agenda of the Communists.

    They were so clueless as to the real aims of murderous Communism that they actually defended Marxism in the West. Yet whenever the Marxists got into power, the first one’s executed were all these useful idiots.

    The warnings Geert Wilders came here to share with us may not be allowed to be vocalised because of the dhimmi status of Australian society. But his very inability to speak may be even more telling – it fully proves his point:

    Islam does not allow any contrary points of view. Nor does the radical left.

    When the two work together to stifle freedom of speech and crush our democratic freedoms, then we are seeing firsthand tyranny on the march. Geert wanted so much to warn us of all this, and learn from what is already happening in Europe. But the way he has been treated makes for a perfect illustration of our already existing dhimmi status.

    We are eyewitnesses to our own execution. These are very sad days indeed for the West.

    You pussies want to back your ‘freedom of speech’ rants and say Wilders and Steyn are welcome in NZ?

    Pussies! :cool:

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  34. Redbaiter (7,968 comments) says:

    Pussies is what they are.

    Lame subservient to the progressive state pussies.

    Their fathers and grandfathers died protecting our culture of freedom from the totalitarians and these cowards and brain fucked surrender monkeys would give it up today without a whisper.

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  35. Ryan Sproull (7,057 comments) says:

    In World War II, who do you think would be more likely to advocate banning access to flight on the basis of religion or race? Allies or Axis?

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  36. eszett (2,355 comments) says:

    So, Reddy, where and when are you going to have your public outing then?
    I am keen to meet your 5 russian female bodyguards you need to protect your sorry arse from us pussy progressives.
    Are you certain they are all real females? I mean, did you check personally?

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  37. Ryan Sproull (7,057 comments) says:

    Wilders and Steyn should be free to say what they like, and Prosser’s a bigoted idiot.

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  38. Rex Widerstrom (5,327 comments) says:

    @Harriet

    Let’s place the blame where it lies. Yes, there are some Muslims who don’t want Wilders to be allowed to speak. But the Islamic Council of WA has merely opted to ignore him, as of course is their absolute right.

    They’ve even gone so far as to say they will not sanction protests against him.

    So who’s behind this campaign against freedom of speech? Some extremist lefties with a radical agenda

    No, the “Liberal” Premier of WA, Colin Barnett, who kicked off, and mandated, the vilification by banning Wilders from any State-owned venue.

    So we have a supposedly intolerant religion preaching tolerance… or at least politely ignoring what could, for them, be seen as provocation… and an elected representative sequestering publicly owned assets so views with which he does not agree do not get aired.

    The silencing of opposition voices is increasingly a hallmark not of Islam but of the supposed democracies in which we live. Yet we elect and re-elect the overweening despots who impose their will by fiat.

    Not only are we eyewitnesses to our own execution, we give praise to our executioners.

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  39. Redbaiter (7,968 comments) says:

    “In World War II, who do you think would be more likely to advocate banning access to flight on the basis of religion or race? Allies or Axis?”

    Race has nothing to do with it. Muslims like Christians come from all races. That’s why those who scream racism on issues like this are nothing more than brain fucked Progressive ignoramuses.

    The issue is not that anyway, its about the lemming like reaction to what Prosser said, and the clear evidence that NZers are so utterly and hopelessly influenced by progressive brainwashing. Our culture is so incredibly perverted.

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  40. thedavincimode (6,589 comments) says:

    Traffic is flowing freely on the Tauranga bridge, signalling that veteran toll activists are pre-occupied with even more important matters.

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  41. eszett (2,355 comments) says:

    Our culture is free and open, red, you just can’t handle what people freely and openly think and say.
    If anything is incredibly perverted then it’s certainly not our culture, but rather your understanding of freedom and free speech.

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  42. Johnboy (15,537 comments) says:

    Stop press:

    Devon and lower Aro Streets to be four laned so students can get on the piss quicker after their lectures.

    Celia says she is “Relaxed about it as long as drunken cyclists needs are catered for”. :)

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  43. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Harriet
    Is Geert Wilders visit being mentioned in any of our rags?

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  44. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Why should criticizing a so called religion be illegal? Why is one so called religion so completely off limits?

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  45. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    Joana, you could call it the apocalypse.

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