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		<title>By: pq</title>
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		<dc:creator>pq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 19:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[V (536) Says above 
February 3rd, 2013 at 1:05 am 
Good on the trustees for questioning the spend. I don’t see how throwing any money at this particular problem is going to solve anything, until people take responsibility for their own actions.




but
Tauhei Notts (1,196) Says: 
February 2nd, 2013 at 4:30 pm 
The person who has the power to hire and fire trustees effectively controls that inter vivos trust. If Owen Glenn did not attend to that simple matter at the time the deed of trust was prepared I will be astounded. This is very basic trust law.
 Just as the person with the power to hire and fire Television New Zealand directors effectively controls that organisation]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V (536) Says above<br />
February 3rd, 2013 at 1:05 am<br />
Good on the trustees for questioning the spend. I don’t see how throwing any money at this particular problem is going to solve anything, until people take responsibility for their own actions.</p>
<p>but<br />
Tauhei Notts (1,196) Says:<br />
February 2nd, 2013 at 4:30 pm<br />
The person who has the power to hire and fire trustees effectively controls that inter vivos trust. If Owen Glenn did not attend to that simple matter at the time the deed of trust was prepared I will be astounded. This is very basic trust law.<br />
 Just as the person with the power to hire and fire Television New Zealand directors effectively controls that organisation</p>
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		<title>By: V</title>
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		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 12:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good on the trustees for questioning the spend. I don&#039;t see how throwing any money at this particular problem is going to solve anything, until people take responsibility for their own actions. The trustees have obviously recognised a blackhole when they see one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good on the trustees for questioning the spend. I don&#8217;t see how throwing any money at this particular problem is going to solve anything, until people take responsibility for their own actions. The trustees have obviously recognised a blackhole when they see one.</p>
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		<title>By: Longknives</title>
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		<dc:creator>Longknives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 11:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Go to YouTube and search “haka flashmob”..... perform the haka everywhere from in front of the Sydney Harbour Bridge to a suburban Brisbane mall. In one you can see a policeman in full uniform, with a gun on his hip, join in. It’s superb and, for an expat, very moving.&quot;

Hakas are fucking cringeworthy and embarrassing. I saw a load of grossly drunken kiwis doing one in London and I was fucking ashamed...

Why we think the world wants to see us poking our tongues out and going all googly eyed is beyond me...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Go to YouTube and search “haka flashmob”&#8230;.. perform the haka everywhere from in front of the Sydney Harbour Bridge to a suburban Brisbane mall. In one you can see a policeman in full uniform, with a gun on his hip, join in. It’s superb and, for an expat, very moving.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hakas are fucking cringeworthy and embarrassing. I saw a load of grossly drunken kiwis doing one in London and I was fucking ashamed&#8230;</p>
<p>Why we think the world wants to see us poking our tongues out and going all googly eyed is beyond me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Johnboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meanwhile the Johnboy family trust continued to dispense the normal, free,  Saturday fish and chips to all it&#039;s beneficiaries! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile the Johnboy family trust continued to dispense the normal, free,  Saturday fish and chips to all it&#8217;s beneficiaries! <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: gump</title>
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		<dc:creator>gump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@kowtow

Yes - I don&#039;t believe that the examples you mentioned actually happen.

Your paranoia is astonishing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kowtow</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; I don&#8217;t believe that the examples you mentioned actually happen.</p>
<p>Your paranoia is astonishing.</p>
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		<title>By: Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 06:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Huh? What family violence?

Thankfully with the brilliantly well thought-out anti smacking bill in place, this is all a thing of the past.
After all, now before dad takes a baseball bat to his son, and beats him within an inch of his life, he&#039;ll obviously stop and think; &quot; oops wait...that&#039;s illegal...can&#039;t do that anymore&quot;.

No sir, that $80 million would clearly be wasted money.

It&#039;s a relief to know John Key didn&#039;t stomp all over the opinion of 90% of the population for nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh? What family violence?</p>
<p>Thankfully with the brilliantly well thought-out anti smacking bill in place, this is all a thing of the past.<br />
After all, now before dad takes a baseball bat to his son, and beats him within an inch of his life, he&#8217;ll obviously stop and think; &#8221; oops wait&#8230;that&#8217;s illegal&#8230;can&#8217;t do that anymore&#8221;.</p>
<p>No sir, that $80 million would clearly be wasted money.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a relief to know John Key didn&#8217;t stomp all over the opinion of 90% of the population for nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 06:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me explain to you something Dexter - those who go on about  &quot;domestic violence&quot; have zero interest in fostering good, healthy, life giving, sustaining relationships between men and women, just the reverse in fact they seek to destroy them where ever they can.

They do not highlight the positive, ever, and hold it up as a shining light as an example to follow,  they highlight the negative and present it as the norm.

And when they do encounter men and women living together well and in harmony - they mock them]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me explain to you something Dexter &#8211; those who go on about  &#8220;domestic violence&#8221; have zero interest in fostering good, healthy, life giving, sustaining relationships between men and women, just the reverse in fact they seek to destroy them where ever they can.</p>
<p>They do not highlight the positive, ever, and hold it up as a shining light as an example to follow,  they highlight the negative and present it as the norm.</p>
<p>And when they do encounter men and women living together well and in harmony &#8211; they mock them</p>
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		<title>By: Dexter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 05:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please don&#039;t generalize Andrei&#039;s ignorance as the Christian perspective. It&#039;s just a sheltered ignorant perspective spewed by someone with an agenda who has absolutely no first hand experience of how the other half truly live. 

Stupidity is non-denominational and Andrei has been peddling his particular brand for years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t generalize Andrei&#8217;s ignorance as the Christian perspective. It&#8217;s just a sheltered ignorant perspective spewed by someone with an agenda who has absolutely no first hand experience of how the other half truly live. </p>
<p>Stupidity is non-denominational and Andrei has been peddling his particular brand for years.</p>
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		<title>By: krazykiwi</title>
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		<dc:creator>krazykiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 05:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DVM - 
&lt;blockquote&gt;
[Andrei,] Always good to get the Christian perspective on these sorts of issues
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

An identical comment from someone of an unknown religious belief would not have elicited that sneering preamble. Why is it necessary to mock?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DVM &#8211; </p>
<blockquote><p>
[Andrei,] Always good to get the Christian perspective on these sorts of issues
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<p>An identical comment from someone of an unknown religious belief would not have elicited that sneering preamble. Why is it necessary to mock?</p>
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		<title>By: Manolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 04:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can choose your friends, but not your family.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can choose your friends, but not your family.</p>
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		<title>By: duggledog</title>
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		<dc:creator>duggledog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 03:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrei @ 9.32 a.m., couldn&#039;t have put it better. But it&#039;s what you do once you&#039;ve made your pile; start thinking about St Peter &amp; shit, offload some gold.

Still you never know, at least he&#039;s doing it. If it&#039;s wisely invested into, say, agricultural technical courses, more schools like Dilworth etc then all good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrei @ 9.32 a.m., couldn&#8217;t have put it better. But it&#8217;s what you do once you&#8217;ve made your pile; start thinking about St Peter &amp; shit, offload some gold.</p>
<p>Still you never know, at least he&#8217;s doing it. If it&#8217;s wisely invested into, say, agricultural technical courses, more schools like Dilworth etc then all good.</p>
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		<title>By: Tauhei Notts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tauhei Notts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 03:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The person who has the power to hire and fire trustees effectively controls that inter vivos trust.  If Owen Glenn did not attend to that simple matter at the time the deed of trust was prepared I will be astounded.  This is very basic trust law.
Just as the person with the power to hire and fire Television New Zealand directors effectively controls that organisation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The person who has the power to hire and fire trustees effectively controls that inter vivos trust.  If Owen Glenn did not attend to that simple matter at the time the deed of trust was prepared I will be astounded.  This is very basic trust law.<br />
Just as the person with the power to hire and fire Television New Zealand directors effectively controls that organisation.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Widerstrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex Widerstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 03:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Barry

Ban the haka? Are you serious?

So by that logic the US, worried at present about gun deaths, should presumably ban the hundreds of Civil War re-enactment groups that are popular pastimes, particularly in the south?

Go to YouTube and search &quot;haka flashmob&quot;. You&#039;ll find several videos showing groups of presumably expat NZers assmbling, occasionally in their hundreds and certainly in numbers of a dozen or more, to perform the haka everywhere from in front of the Sydney Harbour Bridge to a suburban Brisbane mall. In one you can see a policeman in full uniform, with a gun on his hip, join in. It&#039;s superb and, for an expat, very moving.

And not one of those performances has ended in violence. How can this be?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Barry</p>
<p>Ban the haka? Are you serious?</p>
<p>So by that logic the US, worried at present about gun deaths, should presumably ban the hundreds of Civil War re-enactment groups that are popular pastimes, particularly in the south?</p>
<p>Go to YouTube and search &#8220;haka flashmob&#8221;. You&#8217;ll find several videos showing groups of presumably expat NZers assmbling, occasionally in their hundreds and certainly in numbers of a dozen or more, to perform the haka everywhere from in front of the Sydney Harbour Bridge to a suburban Brisbane mall. In one you can see a policeman in full uniform, with a gun on his hip, join in. It&#8217;s superb and, for an expat, very moving.</p>
<p>And not one of those performances has ended in violence. How can this be?!</p>
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		<title>By: Reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 03:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks a bit dramatic doesn&#039;t it, flying off there. I mean, was the phone broken?

I wonder if Owen&#039;s going to give the boys a good britches-down thrashing, at some point in the proceedings?

Maybe they should start an ipredict stock on that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks a bit dramatic doesn&#8217;t it, flying off there. I mean, was the phone broken?</p>
<p>I wonder if Owen&#8217;s going to give the boys a good britches-down thrashing, at some point in the proceedings?</p>
<p>Maybe they should start an ipredict stock on that.</p>
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		<title>By: barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 02:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now if he was putting money into getting the violence out of the maori culture (IE: ban the haka) then Id be interested because thats the only solution to most of the violence in NZ.

But what hes doing at the moment is a total waste - and I think the trustees have become aware of that and are a little worried that they might be held liable for wasting the money - which the very well might be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now if he was putting money into getting the violence out of the maori culture (IE: ban the haka) then Id be interested because thats the only solution to most of the violence in NZ.</p>
<p>But what hes doing at the moment is a total waste &#8211; and I think the trustees have become aware of that and are a little worried that they might be held liable for wasting the money &#8211; which the very well might be.</p>
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		<title>By: pq</title>
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		<dc:creator>pq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 01:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would be amazed if Owen Glenn is not executive trustee, 
and Settlor with power of appointment or dismissal]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be amazed if Owen Glenn is not executive trustee,<br />
and Settlor with power of appointment or dismissal</p>
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		<title>By: kowtow</title>
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		<dc:creator>kowtow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 22:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gump you&#039;re a chump.

the proposals listed are wat they want you to think and approve of.

dad says to kid Who are you talking to on facebook etc,I don&#039;t approve of that guy etc.You&#039;re spending too much time on playstation etc

Kid complains and the stasi come knocking. Don&#039;t believe it happens?

Wake up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gump you&#8217;re a chump.</p>
<p>the proposals listed are wat they want you to think and approve of.</p>
<p>dad says to kid Who are you talking to on facebook etc,I don&#8217;t approve of that guy etc.You&#8217;re spending too much time on playstation etc</p>
<p>Kid complains and the stasi come knocking. Don&#8217;t believe it happens?</p>
<p>Wake up.</p>
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		<title>By: RRM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 22:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cue a whole lot of crap comments about how rich pricks never pay their share...?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cue a whole lot of crap comments about how rich pricks never pay their share&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: pq</title>
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		<dc:creator>pq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 21:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Slightly off  family abuse  subject but not too much I hope , my neighbours had a terrible argument  the man and his wife  and it was violent,  but there seemed no threat to life. There was some physical activity I thought so  I went outside. This is a good street in Christchurch and believe me this was an unlikely incident. I did not go to speak to the man neighbor because he was already going through verbal abuse  hell. There had been some sexual infidelity, and they were completely out of control. My other neighbor he came across it was 2am, and I said what do I do , and he said you stand here beside me  until it is finished , then I go inside your place you give me a cup of coffee and I did. The next morning nothing had happened]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slightly off  family abuse  subject but not too much I hope , my neighbours had a terrible argument  the man and his wife  and it was violent,  but there seemed no threat to life. There was some physical activity I thought so  I went outside. This is a good street in Christchurch and believe me this was an unlikely incident. I did not go to speak to the man neighbor because he was already going through verbal abuse  hell. There had been some sexual infidelity, and they were completely out of control. My other neighbor he came across it was 2am, and I said what do I do , and he said you stand here beside me  until it is finished , then I go inside your place you give me a cup of coffee and I did. The next morning nothing had happened</p>
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		<title>By: thedavincimode</title>
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		<dc:creator>thedavincimode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 21:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Lol “Family violence” is not a problem to be fixed by throwing money at it, only silly liberals could believe that&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Andrei

Always good to get the Christian perspective on these sorts of issues, but I didn&#039;t notice any suggestion that Glenn was intending to &quot;throw money&quot; at the issue, or indeed how he was proposing that the grant be spent.

Presumably you have some greater insight into this so perhaps you could share with us precisely what Glenn is intending to do and why that will fail to achieve anything at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Lol “Family violence” is not a problem to be fixed by throwing money at it, only silly liberals could believe that</p></blockquote>
<p>Andrei</p>
<p>Always good to get the Christian perspective on these sorts of issues, but I didn&#8217;t notice any suggestion that Glenn was intending to &#8220;throw money&#8221; at the issue, or indeed how he was proposing that the grant be spent.</p>
<p>Presumably you have some greater insight into this so perhaps you could share with us precisely what Glenn is intending to do and why that will fail to achieve anything at all.</p>
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