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		<title>By: pq</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/the_new_norman_kirk.html/comment-page-1#comment-1093830</link>
		<dc:creator>pq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 07:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[every day I wake up and do my best and i love my country and i do my best, that is my life.
Farrar has 85 demerit points, I like him best when he walks in the Otago hills, but he 
is in danger
http://paulscottfilms.blogspot.co.nz/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>every day I wake up and do my best and i love my country and i do my best, that is my life.<br />
Farrar has 85 demerit points, I like him best when he walks in the Otago hills, but he<br />
is in danger<br />
<a href="http://paulscottfilms.blogspot.co.nz/" rel="nofollow">http://paulscottfilms.blogspot.co.nz/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rodders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 17:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[pq @ 10.24pm - a comment from you that isn&#039;t off-topic. Well done!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pq @ 10.24pm &#8211; a comment from you that isn&#8217;t off-topic. Well done!</p>
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		<title>By: pq</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/the_new_norman_kirk.html/comment-page-1#comment-1093385</link>
		<dc:creator>pq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 09:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[get tough dudes, talking is fine, we are  going to win,I want NZ strong]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>get tough dudes, talking is fine, we are  going to win,I want NZ strong</p>
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		<title>By: HC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/02/the_new_norman_kirk.html/comment-page-1#comment-1093380</link>
		<dc:creator>HC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 09:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much as I have a rather critical, dim view of David Shearer&#039;s &quot;leadership skills&quot;, I feel this is a bit below the belt! Whosoever put this together has an agenda, that is clear. Now, one must speculate, was this perhaps started by someone belonging to the severely dissenting ones on the left, or does David Farrar have some undisclosed, unofficial &quot;connections&quot; to certain skilled video makers with the more extreme National or ACT ties, who want to do all to completely dismantle what is left of Labour now?

In any case, once things go this far, the excuses to keep a leader facing such acts in the position, who is now incessantly, prayer-like repeating &quot;hands on&quot;, &quot;hands on&quot;, &quot;hands on&quot;, and then being &quot;without pants on&quot;, referring to different forms of government, they are fast running out now.

Surely, NZ is overdue for better government and serious policy changes, but neither of the big parties appear to be able to offer any real, sensible solutions.

But this is a sad day in NZ politics. The fight is heading below the belt-line now.

[DPF: As I said, I have absolutely no idea at all who is behind this. If I know who sent me something I will say - not who it is, but that they are a reader or something. This was totally anonymous. My assumption is it is an unhappy leftie]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I have a rather critical, dim view of David Shearer&#8217;s &#8220;leadership skills&#8221;, I feel this is a bit below the belt! Whosoever put this together has an agenda, that is clear. Now, one must speculate, was this perhaps started by someone belonging to the severely dissenting ones on the left, or does David Farrar have some undisclosed, unofficial &#8220;connections&#8221; to certain skilled video makers with the more extreme National or ACT ties, who want to do all to completely dismantle what is left of Labour now?</p>
<p>In any case, once things go this far, the excuses to keep a leader facing such acts in the position, who is now incessantly, prayer-like repeating &#8220;hands on&#8221;, &#8220;hands on&#8221;, &#8220;hands on&#8221;, and then being &#8220;without pants on&#8221;, referring to different forms of government, they are fast running out now.</p>
<p>Surely, NZ is overdue for better government and serious policy changes, but neither of the big parties appear to be able to offer any real, sensible solutions.</p>
<p>But this is a sad day in NZ politics. The fight is heading below the belt-line now.</p>
<p>[DPF: As I said, I have absolutely no idea at all who is behind this. If I know who sent me something I will say - not who it is, but that they are a reader or something. This was totally anonymous. My assumption is it is an unhappy leftie]</p>
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		<title>By: pq</title>
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		<dc:creator>pq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 09:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NZ   election 2014
NZ Nat     =42%     NZ Labour = 35%
NZ Fiirst = 07%     NZ Green = 11%
add figures,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NZ   election 2014<br />
NZ Nat     =42%     NZ Labour = 35%<br />
NZ Fiirst = 07%     NZ Green = 11%<br />
add figures,</p>
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		<title>By: pq</title>
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		<dc:creator>pq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 09:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim (259) Says: February 7th, 2013 at 8:58 pm 
The old Norman Kirk was a little more fluent: 
http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/frost-over-new-zealand-the-leaders-1973
 
What has happened to the quality of speech over the past 40 years?
 
pq response is 
hey thanks Jim, what a riveting interview that was, with David Frost, my God where is Frost,. Kirk was just so good I admired Kirk  and he motivated me]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim (259) Says: February 7th, 2013 at 8:58 pm<br />
The old Norman Kirk was a little more fluent:<br />
<a href="http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/frost-over-new-zealand-the-leaders-1973" rel="nofollow">http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/frost-over-new-zealand-the-leaders-1973</a></p>
<p>What has happened to the quality of speech over the past 40 years?</p>
<p>pq response is<br />
hey thanks Jim, what a riveting interview that was, with David Frost, my God where is Frost,. Kirk was just so good I admired Kirk  and he motivated me</p>
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		<title>By: Reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 08:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No wonder he doesn&#039;t read blogs, if that&#039;s all he hears. How dweadful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wonder he doesn&#8217;t read blogs, if that&#8217;s all he hears. How dweadful.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 08:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[agree @nocommentkiwi

And on that topic I admit that I just can&#039;t stand John Key&#039;s voice. There is no other [current] party leader that I would want to be PM, so I look past it, but it grates. Not an inspiring orator by a long stretch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree @nocommentkiwi</p>
<p>And on that topic I admit that I just can&#8217;t stand John Key&#8217;s voice. There is no other [current] party leader that I would want to be PM, so I look past it, but it grates. Not an inspiring orator by a long stretch.</p>
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		<title>By: nocommentkiwi</title>
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		<dc:creator>nocommentkiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 08:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t much like David Shearer. I am not a Labour voter either. But I do think this is a silly video, and hardly an indictment on him is his intellect. You read some of the papers this guy&#039;s written and it&#039;s quite clear that he does have a brain (maybe one that I don&#039;t tend to agree with - although DPF might when it comes to &#039;Outsourcing War&#039;). 

Shearer&#039;s not exactly Einstein, but it&#039;s a frustrating and scary degeneration of politics that the measure of a party leader is their ability to orate perfectly prepared soundbites rather than well-considered ideas - even if they stutter a little amount. 
It&#039;s not actually like this guy is an out-lier in terms of other leaders; the Prime Minister isn&#039;t a fantastic speaker either, but it&#039;s not really their appearance or articulation that I judge our politicians by.  What they say is more important than how they say it.  I wager good money that we could probably present Judy Bailey in a similar fashion if we selected the right bits of film. Or even Stephen Fry.

Notwithstanding, I am not sure Shearer is the right man for the job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t much like David Shearer. I am not a Labour voter either. But I do think this is a silly video, and hardly an indictment on him is his intellect. You read some of the papers this guy&#8217;s written and it&#8217;s quite clear that he does have a brain (maybe one that I don&#8217;t tend to agree with &#8211; although DPF might when it comes to &#8216;Outsourcing War&#8217;). </p>
<p>Shearer&#8217;s not exactly Einstein, but it&#8217;s a frustrating and scary degeneration of politics that the measure of a party leader is their ability to orate perfectly prepared soundbites rather than well-considered ideas &#8211; even if they stutter a little amount.<br />
It&#8217;s not actually like this guy is an out-lier in terms of other leaders; the Prime Minister isn&#8217;t a fantastic speaker either, but it&#8217;s not really their appearance or articulation that I judge our politicians by.  What they say is more important than how they say it.  I wager good money that we could probably present Judy Bailey in a similar fashion if we selected the right bits of film. Or even Stephen Fry.</p>
<p>Notwithstanding, I am not sure Shearer is the right man for the job.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 07:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The old Norman Kirk was a little more fluent: http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/frost-over-new-zealand-the-leaders-1973

What has happened to the quality of speech over the past 40 years?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The old Norman Kirk was a little more fluent: <a href="http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/frost-over-new-zealand-the-leaders-1973" rel="nofollow">http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/frost-over-new-zealand-the-leaders-1973</a></p>
<p>What has happened to the quality of speech over the past 40 years?</p>
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		<title>By: duggledog</title>
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		<dc:creator>duggledog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 07:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Poor old chap. Did you see his little face.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor old chap. Did you see his little face.</p>
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		<title>By: Black with a Vengeance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black with a Vengeance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 07:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Captain Mumblefuck is still infinitely preferable to Key as Major Stumblefuck .

Stumbling from one major clusterfuck to the next with narry a clue how to fixit...

Enter stage right, Joyce as General Rumblefuck...generally full of sound but signifying fuck all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hidden due to low comment rating. <a href="javascript:crSwitchDisplay('ckhide-1093317');" title="Click to see comment">Click here to see</a>.</p><div id='ckhide-1093317' style="display:none; opacity:0.6;filter:alpha(opacity=60) !important;"><p>Captain Mumblefuck is still infinitely preferable to Key as Major Stumblefuck .</p>
<p>Stumbling from one major clusterfuck to the next with narry a clue how to fixit&#8230;</p>
<p>Enter stage right, Joyce as General Rumblefuck&#8230;generally full of sound but signifying fuck all.</p>
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		<title>By: sparky</title>
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		<dc:creator>sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 07:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL. OMG, he sure as hell is nothing like Norm Kirk. Sorry Mr Shearer, you are an embarrassment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. OMG, he sure as hell is nothing like Norm Kirk. Sorry Mr Shearer, you are an embarrassment.</p>
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		<title>By: pq</title>
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		<dc:creator>pq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 06:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[fabulous , there is a lot of clean and tidy editing there, 
25 frames per second, breaking up voice clips and reintroducing, 
I am glad we have him, it makes the work easier]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fabulous , there is a lot of clean and tidy editing there,<br />
25 frames per second, breaking up voice clips and reintroducing,<br />
I am glad we have him, it makes the work easier</p>
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		<title>By: Steve (North Shore)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve (North Shore)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 06:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So when are you going to get a real job Mr Shearer?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when are you going to get a real job Mr Shearer?</p>
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		<title>By: Colville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 05:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sent by eddie@thestandard.org.nz  &gt;&gt;==&gt;&gt; lprent &gt;&gt;==&gt;&gt; DPF ?  classy  :-)

But long may Mumblefuck stay Captain of the Liarbore Titanic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sent by <a href="mailto:eddie@thestandard.org.nz">eddie@thestandard.org.nz</a>  &gt;&gt;==&gt;&gt; lprent &gt;&gt;==&gt;&gt; DPF ?  classy  <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But long may Mumblefuck stay Captain of the Liarbore Titanic.</p>
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		<title>By: Longknives</title>
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		<dc:creator>Longknives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 05:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[His dog&#039;s name is &#039;Tino rangatiratanga&#039;.

The guy is a prize twat..End of story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFF0F5 !important"><p>His dog&#8217;s name is &#8216;Tino rangatiratanga&#8217;.</p>
<p>The guy is a prize twat..End of story.</p>
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		<title>By: Manolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 05:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shearer is a bumbling fool who fully deserves his moniker &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Captain Mumblefuck&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shearer is a bumbling fool who fully deserves his moniker <i><b>Captain Mumblefuck</b></i>.</p>
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