Waitangi Day pub crawl

February 4th, 2013 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

The Dom Post reports:

An estimated 4000 Kiwi revellers have marked in with the annual pub crawl around the city’s Circle underground line – and won police praise for it.

The event, marked in London for decades, began with a minute’s silence for Jacob Marx, 27, a Kiwi lawyer killed in London last week. He suffered fatal injuries when a sign outside a shop in North London’s Camden Rd fell on his head.

Young men then bared their chests in a chilly London for the traditional haka while others caroused in Kiwi-themed costumes, dressing as sheep, Marmite jars, Fred Dagg, EQC inspectors or Kim Dotcom.

Confronted with the spectacle, bemused Londoners took to Twitter. Alex Johnson wrote: “Kensington is overrun with thousands of Kiwis in sheep outfits. Apparently it’s the Waitangi Day Pub Crawl. Weird, but go #newzealand!”

Police looked forward to the annual celebrations, Inspector Bruce Middlemiss told 3news.

“The crowd have been fantastic, absolutely fantastic. There aren’t too many nations who can have 5000 people on a pub crawl and result in no arrests. It’s been extremely good-natured and New Zealand should be very proud of them, I think.”

Excellent. Kiwis do know how to have lots of fun but not be pillocks.

This is in marked contrast to last year when a Kiwi complained to the New Zealand high commission of being ashamed by the display of debauchery.

Actually it isn’t in contrast at all. The Police said almost the same thing last year. The only contrast was last year one lone person e-mailed in an inaccurate description of the pub crawl. It was later shown that he had said on Facebook that he intended to complain about the pub crawl before it had even occurred!

I recall this story because the Dom Post ran a massive front page story on the basis of this one inaccurate unsubstantiated complaint, and how by the end of the day their online version of the story had basically backed down on it as hundreds came forward to say it was well behaved – including the Police.

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25 Responses to “Waitangi Day pub crawl”

  1. pollywog (1,153 comments) says:

    Fuck kiwi drinking culture…

    Reinforce the status quo by any means necessary?

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  2. Pete George (22,851 comments) says:

    Kiwis do know how to have lots of fun but not be pillocks.

    Some do. Perhaps most of those who have fun drinking have moved to London, there are plenty of drunken pillocks back here.

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  3. Lance (2,451 comments) says:

    Oh look
    pollywog wants to suck the fun out of life for youngsters on their OE.

    This might be news to you pollywog but there are some people who can actually do this once or twice and not end up a dero.

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  4. Longknives (4,464 comments) says:

    “Young men then bared their chests in a chilly London for the traditional haka ”

    There’s a shock. God how cringeworthy…

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  5. pollywog (1,153 comments) says:

    Oh noes Lance…let em have their fun, just don’t report it as news with a police endorsement then bitchmoan about drunken yoof on Courtney place and do nothing to change it

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  6. Lance (2,451 comments) says:

    @pollywog
    I am guessing the youngsters on their OE don’t go around king hitting innocents from behind, knocking people down and stomping on their heads repeatedly and destroying property for laughs.

    You may not realize it but there is a difference.

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  7. pollywog (1,153 comments) says:

    I’m guessing you’re right Lance…your point being?

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  8. James Stephenson (2,033 comments) says:

    Some do. Perhaps most of those who have fun drinking have moved to London,

    Just one of those weird things. Kiwis have a reputation for being hard workers versus the locals in London, an opinion which seems to be reversed in this country.

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  9. Colville (2,081 comments) says:

    You need to work hard in London to be able to afford the farking expensive beer!

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  10. MT_Tinman (2,993 comments) says:

    Longknives (2,119) Says:
    February 4th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
    “Young men then bared their chests in a chilly London for the traditional haka ”

    There’s a shock. God how cringeworthy…

    Given that most would have followed tradition and only remembered the first line I think it would have been hilarious.

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  11. big bruv (13,311 comments) says:

    I watched a clip on the news about this cringe worthy event, and, as usual they had to embarrass us even more at the end of the clip with a shot of a dozen or so white boys stripping off their shirts to perform a rain dance.

    Why is it that Kiwis feel the need to perform this meaningless dance?…it’s not as if people from overseas know what it is all about, they just see a bunch of pissed white boys waving their arms in the air and sticking their tongues out.

    Most foreigners think it is funny, and ,despite what many say here they do not hold the rain dance in awe at all.

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  12. hmmokrightitis (1,511 comments) says:

    The Circle Line pub crawl has long standing roots, dating back to the late 30′s or early 40′s Im told – I cant verify.

    Did it once myself, with a bunch of mates for a stag do, back in the early 80′s. Highlights included being followed into a toilet by a woman who said nothing but was fascinated watching me have a piss; an Indian mate of ours who could not drink at all having 3 half pints, swicthing to lemonade, and then falling asleep in his soup at dinner; and me chasing two gorgeous Spanish grils down the road near Whiteleys begging for a phone number.

    Got the number too :)

    Its fun, no one dies, and we are all young once.

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  13. Jack5 (4,591 comments) says:

    The early 40′s, hmmokrightitis (2.50 post)?

    In the early 40s the young Kiwis in London were in RAF or Navy blue. Most might have enjoyed a beer, but it wouldn’t have been on a haka trek around London.

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  14. Longknives (4,464 comments) says:

    Agreed Jack. I very much doubt our Wartime heroes would have poked their tongues out,done that god-awful throat slitting gesture and drunkenly demanded that ‘you Poms MUST respect our culture’, before drunkenly staggering off to take a piss on Westminster Abbey….

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  15. Paulus (2,502 comments) says:

    I am not sure that young Kiwi’s in Airforce Uniform, or any other uniform, in the 1940s knew of the haka, other than a Maori dance as part of a concert party.
    Certainly not as overused today.

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  16. mister nui (975 comments) says:

    Well, I have just spent Australia Day in Japan, and witnessed some of the most disgusting drunken yobbo behavior I have ever seen. The Australian bogan youth is certainly a cretinous animal.

    I now know why the Australian tourism industry is fucked, no tourist will ever want to visit the place after seeing the country showcased overseas by these imbeciles.

    I look forward to seeing Waitangi celebrations here for a comparison – dollars to doughnuts the Kiwis will be better behaved. I do pray that no one starts that stupid rain dance though. The only thing worse than that is a drunken bogan doing the Aussie, Aussie, Aussie chant!

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  17. Komata (1,111 comments) says:

    The Kiwi’s in wartime London would have been familiar with the idea, if not the actual event in relation to the Haka – 28th Maori Battalion was well known throughout Empire Military Forces. From memory, it was actually performed ‘in anger’ before several scraps in the Western Desert campaign,and I believe that Freyberg was accorded at least one ‘performance’ in his honour (at Maaadhi Camp) while in the Middle East as Officer Commanding NZ Military Forces Middle East. However, the Haka was widely (and correctly IMHO), perceived as something that was very specifically Maori, (and very special and worthy of respect, as a result) and as 28th Maori were operating in Italy and the Western Desert the haka would have been unlikely to have been overly familiar in London. Unfortunately I can’t remeber if Bill Jordon (NZ Hi Commissioner to London) was accorded the honour of a haka while he was in London or not. (it was along time ago). i somehow doubtr it – there were other minor distractions at the time – a war, for instance. Hope this helps.

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  18. Ross_Bell (12 comments) says:

    Here’s the background into last year’s beat-up: http://drugfoundation.org.nz/matters-of-substance/opinion/pub-crawl

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  19. tropicana (79 comments) says:

    Well, I have just spent Australia Day [overseas], and witnessed some of the most disgusting drunken yobbo behaviour I have ever seen. The Australian bogan youth is certainly a cretinous animal.

    Yeah right. And the Kiwi bogan youth overseas is a perfect young swain by comparison. Yeah right, LMFAO, Mr nui.

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  20. KevinH (1,131 comments) says:

    At eight quid a pint, it would be difficult to get pissed in London these days. Pub crawls aren’t exactly the best way to celebrate your national day but it’s better than not celebrating it at all. Let’s hope it goes well and not to many expats make tits of themselves.

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  21. mister nui (975 comments) says:

    I never said that tropicana. The kiwi youth overseas can certainly do bogan well, but from my perspective, as someone who has travelled significantly and seen more than their fair share of poor behavior, I have never seen anything remotely as disgusting and embarrassing as what I just saw on Australia Day. Absolute national disgrace.

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  22. Liberal Minded Kiwi (1,563 comments) says:

    What utter claptrap. I have done the pub crawl 10 times, Saturday was my 10th and I always expect the same fucking idiot arm chair Kiwis back home to pass judgement upon it. God you lot are a moaning judgemental bunch and 100% incorrect, as I expected since you probably only saw that 2 minute clip on TV1 news. We cringe when we see the newspaper clippings of the shame that Kiwis back home commit on Waitangi Day, protests and violence and on the other hand, absolute apathy.
    At least we respect it – ZERO arrests, police admitting that 5000 of us are better behaved than 100 Brits, no damage to property and at this stage no complaints made to the police or high commission.

    Ignorance is bliss guys. No wonder so many Kiwis in the UK are desperate to stay over here and do what they can to get their visas changed to stay longer. Petty negative nonsense like these comments, over a day that produced less trouble than the Wellington 7s. Says it all really. Grow up.

    PS. Kevin, pints are not 8 quid each. It’s cheaper here to buy a pint than it is in NZ.

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  23. hmmokrightitis (1,511 comments) says:

    For the record, I didnt mean kiwis and Circle Line pub crawls – I meant Circle Line pub crawls. Apparently its been a done thing for some time. My wife’s grandfather flew Dakota’s during the war, and he recalls his mates going on them in the late 30′s and into and during the war. He wasnt sure if it was Circle Line, but they were well established even back then.

    More power to them I say :)

    And kevin, if youre paying 8 quid for a pint, I have a bridge you can buy :)

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  24. Left Right and Centre (2,821 comments) says:

    Waitangi Day is as good a reason as any to get shit-faced….

    National Day? Really? What a joke. What a fucking joke.

    And what will this year’s sideshow be? What will the angry restless natives do this time to provide the media images for the 6pm news?

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  25. Liberal Minded Kiwi (1,563 comments) says:

    The Waitangi Circle Line was 30 this year. The types of Circle Line that the police discourage are the ones where Brits participate in. In fact Westminster council are very strict on these events – and the police enforce the drinking laws rigidly. However foer Waitangi Day, the drinking laws are relaxed (unofficially) and the police actively pursue a policy of commonsense – which we mostly reciprocate. A few minutes of TV airtime will never tell the true story of the fun and good natured fun that people had on this day. But it sure gets the armchair experts in a right tizz. :)

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