Youth wings are meant to disagree with their parties sometimes

February 22nd, 2013 at 4:00 pm by David Farrar

I’m a big believer that youth wings of political parties should from time to time disagree with their parties. They are not doing their job if they do not. Their role isn’t just to sell their party to young people, but to represent the views of young people to their party. Sycophancy does neither side a favour.

So I was pleased to see the come out this week with this release:

The Young Nats oppose the Government’s assault on freedom and responsibility as it moves to introduce .

“This is just plain populism and nanny state interference all over again. We can’t see how this will actually reduce the harm of smoking” says Young Nats Policy Officer, Megan Hands.

The Young Nats champion individual freedom and personal responsibility.

“All companies should have the right to package their goods as they choose. Buyers should also have the right to exercise their power of consumer choice and absorb the responsibilities that come with such choices” says Hands.

Plain packaging sends a message that it’s acceptable for the Government to interfere wherever and whenever they like.

The Young Nats urge the Government in the strongest terms to consider the values of our party before blindly supporting nanny state antics.

Again, this is a good thing – not a bad thing. Of course, you don’t want your youth wing disagreeing with the parliamentary party constantly – that then becomes destabilising and marginalises you. But sycophancy is just as unhelpful.

So well done Young Nats on speaking up. I don’t agree with everything that have said, but it is good to see them prepared to criticise the Government when they think it has made a wrong decision.

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17 Responses to “Youth wings are meant to disagree with their parties sometimes”

  1. cha (3,856 comments) says:

    Youth wings are meant to disagree with disgrace their parties sometimes too.

    FIFY

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  2. Nigel Kearney (917 comments) says:

    Hard to imagine what could have led them to think that individual freedom and personal responsibility are the values of the National Party.

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  3. Andrew M (46 comments) says:

    You’ve set your auto-post schedule in a fairly obvious pattern today it seems: 3pm Denigrate opposition youth wing – 4pm Praise Government youth wing – 5pm Review play (probably) 6pm – Holiday Snaps (probably)

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  4. RRM (9,661 comments) says:

    Hate to say it but I find young conservatives every bit as tragic as aging pinkoes like Minto, Bradford et al.

    Something about kids from well-to-do households clocking up interest-free student loans while receiving an 80% taxpayer-funded tertiary education, and then pontificating loudly in the student bar about personal responsibility and independence and how there is too much nanny-state social welfare in this country… Vomit.

    It just makes me want to kick them :-)

    The Young Nats are a group of young people who stand for freedom, choice, independence and ambition. We believe in less government and the promotion of personal freedom and individual responsibility, whatever that means – I’m 20 and came here straight from school to do a b.com LOL! I think it’s CRIMINAL how much tax my daddy pays to the socialists and solo mums…

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  5. Redbaiter (8,022 comments) says:

    That’s because you are by nature a thief RRM.

    You are one of those who say that if we do not want the so called “poor” to break into our houses and loot us, the only other available option is to elect politicians who will legislate to loot us.

    Despicable really, and illustrates so clearly how most progressives are missing their moral compass.

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  6. Changeiscoming (159 comments) says:

    Great to see the Young Nats following the lead of Colin Craig and the Conservative Party. There might be a glimmer of hope for National yet.

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  7. RRM (9,661 comments) says:

    Believe it or not Wedbaiter…

    If YOU were to get up and say you think it is too easy for too many bone idle parasites to get away with doing sweet fuck all work in this country, because everyone else will just pay and pay for them, then I would have a certain amount of respect your opinion, and I would even agree with you up to a certain point.

    But that’s because you are clearly a grumpy old bastard who’s made his way in the world for a long time, and paid a lot of tax, and can make these observations with some credibility.

    Whereas the ignorant hypocrisy in some of the shit that these kids come up with is so unfunny, it’s almost funny again in a meta kind of way…

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  8. Redbaiter (8,022 comments) says:

    Thanks for the laugh Nigel K. Very good, and too true.

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  9. Parlyguy (22 comments) says:

    As an attender of many National Party conferences, the Young Nats always managed to annoy with spotty faced, socially awkward eagerness to smooze

    Amongst their laughable statements was this pearler: “Buyers should also have the right to exercise their power of consumer choice and absorb the responsibilities that come with such choices”

    While I agree with the first proposition, the second is so ludicrous as to be laughable. Since when have smokers (said as an ex 17 year long smoker myself) assumed the responsibilities the come with such choices? I’ve never seen a smoker who doesn’t use public health services to treat (and in rare cases, cure) their various health issues that result from smoking.

    I agree with RRM – young (insert political description) advocates should all recieve public kickings until they realise that they should drinking and rooting (safely of course), not worrying themselves silly about commerical intellectual property rights.

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  10. Redbaiter (8,022 comments) says:

    How do you know these people come from “well to do households”?

    John Key did not. (although he’d probably be a far better PM if he had)

    Neither did Margaret Thatcher.

    John Howard did not.

    Ronald Reagan did not.

    Its just one of your typically leftist prejudices.

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  11. barry (1,317 comments) says:

    But its not a good look to be disagreeing on something like smoking which is fully accepted as dangerous – in fact its one of the few products that if used as the manufacturer suggests – will kill you.

    They would be taken much more seriously if they disagreed over something worth arguing over – like asset sales or a financial transaction tax, etc

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  12. Redbaiter (8,022 comments) says:

    That you don’t understand why this is important Barry suggests that you will never get it, and will go on like so many other self professed anti-leftists, busily gift wrapping this country to hand it over to the Marxists.

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  13. Bill (94 comments) says:

    Tragic, that well educated kids should be so easily confused.

    Simple choice.
    - Encourage smoking by allowing them to target people’s weak emotions.
    - discourage.

    The Young Nats have failed to see the wood from the trees.

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  14. kowtow (7,945 comments) says:

    They disagree with HQ when Key is following the Maoris on smokes but the Young gNats are Labour followers on the so called same sex marriage bill.

    If you ask me they’re all fucked up. The old ones and the young.

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  15. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    I’m almost certain that the Hitler Youth never disagreed with their leader! :)

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  16. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    So, what about the emasculated National Party elders? Who cut their gonads?

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  17. BlairM (2,306 comments) says:

    Good call by the Young Nats. National needs to institute the “Wyatt Creech Rule” ie. “Would even Wyatt Creech have done something so fucking stupid?”, and if the answer is no, don’t do it.

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