If you ask me they’re all fucked up. The old ones and the young.

Simple choice.
- Encourage smoking by allowing them to target people’s weak emotions.
- discourage.

The Young Nats have failed to see the wood from the trees.

They would be taken much more seriously if they disagreed over something worth arguing over – like asset sales or a financial transaction tax, etc

John Key did not. (although he’d probably be a far better PM if he had)

Neither did Margaret Thatcher.

John Howard did not.

Ronald Reagan did not.

Its just one of your typically leftist prejudices.

Amongst their laughable statements was this pearler: “Buyers should also have the right to exercise their power of consumer choice and absorb the responsibilities that come with such choices”

While I agree with the first proposition, the second is so ludicrous as to be laughable. Since when have smokers (said as an ex 17 year long smoker myself) assumed the responsibilities the come with such choices? I’ve never seen a smoker who doesn’t use public health services to treat (and in rare cases, cure) their various health issues that result from smoking.

I agree with RRM – young (insert political description) advocates should all recieve public kickings until they realise that they should drinking and rooting (safely of course), not worrying themselves silly about commerical intellectual property rights.

If YOU were to get up and say you think it is too easy for too many bone idle parasites to get away with doing sweet fuck all work in this country, because everyone else will just pay and pay for them, then I would have a certain amount of respect your opinion, and I would even agree with you up to a certain point.

But that’s because you are clearly a grumpy old bastard who’s made his way in the world for a long time, and paid a lot of tax, and can make these observations with some credibility.

Whereas the ignorant hypocrisy in some of the shit that these kids come up with is so unfunny, it’s almost funny again in a meta kind of way…

You are one of those who say that if we do not want the so called “poor” to break into our houses and loot us, the only other available option is to elect politicians who will legislate to loot us.

Despicable really, and illustrates so clearly how most progressives are missing their moral compass.

Something about kids from well-to-do households clocking up interest-free student loans while receiving an 80% taxpayer-funded tertiary education, and then pontificating loudly in the student bar about personal responsibility and independence and how there is too much nanny-state social welfare in this country… Vomit.

It just makes me want to kick them

The Young Nats are a group of young people who stand for freedom, choice, independence and ambition. We believe in less government and the promotion of personal freedom and individual responsibility, whatever that means – I’m 20 and came here straight from school to do a b.com LOL! I think it’s CRIMINAL how much tax my daddy pays to the socialists and solo mums…

Hard to imagine what could have led them to think that individual freedom and personal responsibility are the values of the National Party.

FIFY