Labour even complains about new schools!

March 10th, 2013 at 7:00 am by David Farrar

Newstalk ZB reports:

Two new are to be built in north east Hamilton, but the plans are not without controversy.

Minister of Education has announced a primary school will be built in Flagstaff by 2015, and a secondary school by 2016.

Labour MP says locals have been calling for a secondary school for five years, but the primary is not seen as such a priority.

“The proposal for a new primary school? Well that’s come out of left field, or right field as it might be.

“It’s not the priority. The community is very clear about its priorities, they want the secondary school in place.”

Hekia Parata says the evidence shows the primary school will be needed first in the area, which is growing rapidly.

Just because you are in opposition doesn’t mean you need to oppose everything the Government announces. Criticising the Government for spending $10 million on a new primary school for Hamilton is not likely to help you win the seat.

There are projected to be an extra 600 primary age students in North-East Hamilton by 2016.

The new secondary school will be the first new one in 40 years I believe. It reflects how strong the population growth there is.

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17 Responses to “Labour even complains about new schools!”

  1. barry (1,317 comments) says:

    Well Labour need to wake up.

    1.The local primary school (Rototuna) is both absolutely full and is a leaky building. Its only about 5 or 8 years old.

    2. The nearest secondary school is Fairfield college. No parent who cares would send their child there. If it was run well then the pressure would come off the need for another secondary school – but its been run so badly for so long that its reputation is not recoverable. I suspect that when the next secondary opens Fairfield will be sold to be run as a charter school – its reputation is so badly damaged that its would take decades to recover. The problem is that the school board are just idiots and the group is full of opposing interest groups and they dont care what the results of their internal politics is.

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  2. Komata (1,142 comments) says:

    barry

    Agree about Fairfield College – definitely ‘a place to avoid’. Ms Moroney seems more interested in ‘playing politics’ and ideological confrontation ‘at any cost and for any reason’ than being concerned in the welfare of the children (and future genertions of children) within her constituency. She would have been wiser to have kept quiet and get ‘stuck in’ to support what is proposed rather than doing the opposite. She seems unable though, to take the hint. Not one of the bettter ways to get oneself re-elected I would have thought. Hopefully the locals will have long memories come 2014, and throw her out, while the fact that that end of the city seems to be becoming more lower-middle class in its demography (and moving away from Labour as a result) might also have an effect on her future. One can but hope.

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  3. barry (1,317 comments) says:

    Yes Komata – she has never heard of that old phrase – “best keep your mouth closed and be thought an idiot, than to open it and prove you are an idiot”

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  4. Right of way is Way of Right (1,129 comments) says:

    And herein lies the core of Labours problems in opposition.

    Any policy that the National government brings out, no matter what, the Labour party search for some part of it to attack, and then do exactly that. It is an overwhelmingly negative approach, leading to the probably not altogether incorrect position that Labour are, at the core, an overwhelmingly negative group of people.

    This is further exacerbated by Labour being very reluctant to come out with anything resembling a coherent and sensible counter policy. And what policy they do come out with is often flawed, and non workable in anything resembling the real world. Cheap houses in Auckland anyone?

    Should Labour come out with any policy that makes sense, is coherent, and is positive, I may listen. Might be waiting a while though!

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  5. CrazyIvan (88 comments) says:

    Perhaps Moroney should talk to the teachers about the primary school given the head of the principals association for the Waikato region was on the radio this morning praising the decision as its needed due to the massive population increase.

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  6. peterwn (3,215 comments) says:

    She is even mixed up idelogically. The rumblings for a new secondary school is motivated by parents wanting choice rather than a perception that existing secondary schools are bursting at the seams. But Labour does not believe in choice in education.

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  7. Black with a Vengeance (1,711 comments) says:

    Fuck this whole attacking Labour as a hand waving distraction and blaming them for historical stuff is wearing really thin .

    How about Key blaming Labour for his and English blind support of Don Elder as they collectively ran Solid Energy into the ground ?

    http://fmacskasy.wordpress.com/2013/03/09/dear-leader-key-blames-everyone-else-for-solid-energys-financial-crisis-part-rua/

    [DPF: 20 demerits off topic. Use general debate]

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  8. Komata (1,142 comments) says:

    BWAV

    Re: ‘this whole attacking Labour as a hand waving distraction and blaming them for historical stuff is wearing really thin’

    Not so old chap. Not ‘attacking’ Labour per se’ just pointing out the obvious – that, even though it is for the common good of ALL, labour via its local MP, seems to be absolutely and pathologically incapable of actually supporting something that is not in conformance with its own preconceived ideas as to ‘what is best’. The posts are, if you will, motivated by frustration at what is NOT being done.

    The fact is that Hamilton North DOES need a new primary school, it DOES need a new secondary school , yet Moroney, despite being the local (Labour) MP, and supposedly interested in the welfare of the locals (especially the children, those whom labour has insisted over the years are ‘the future’), insists on attacking the Minister instead of saying, yes, this is a most excellent idea let’s all get in and make it work. The comments are made ‘more in sorrow than in anger’ and are motivated by a wish that this person (Moroney) would actually get out and actually do something FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE rather than for her own, narrow, political self-interest, which is what she is doing. Sadly, sue comes across as being more-interested in getting re-elected adn back into teh house, than actually supporting something which the community really needs. She would of course, deny such a suggestion…

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  9. thor42 (971 comments) says:

    Typical Moron-ey nonsense. Whine, whine, whine.

    Air NZ should look at replacing their jet engines with Labour MPS.
    They blast out hot air, they make the same whining sound and they’d be a darned sight cheaper to run.

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  10. Francis_X (149 comments) says:

    If the locals want a secondary school, what’s the point of wasting more of our taxes on something else? This doresn’t make any sense and the “support” for Parata on this page seems more of a kneejerk than thinking through the issues. Change the names of the story that DPF has given us from National to Labour and vice versa and we’d be screaming blue murder at Labour for not recognising what locals want. If they’re going to spend my taxes on something then do it according to what’s needed.

    As for Parata, her use-by date expired a year ago.

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  11. Black with a Vengeance (1,711 comments) says:

    complaining about Labour complaining…oh the ironing.

    I think motive and intent should be questioned in any topic.

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  12. Paulus (2,565 comments) says:

    Francis X – surely every National Education Minister is ratshit, whatever they do.

    Tolley was treated most rudely and arrogantly by the so called “Teacher’s Unions”.

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  13. RightNow (6,843 comments) says:

    Francis_X (108) Says:
    March 10th, 2013 at 10:46 am

    If the locals want a secondary school, what’s the point of wasting more of our taxes on something else?

    Have you done a survey?
    I’ll assume you have, since you know what the locals want.
    Since you’re clearly keen to not waste taxes I expect your survey covered:
    How many secondary school places are needed and when?
    How many primary school places are needed and when?

    Your answers appear to contradict this: “There are projected to be an extra 600 primary age students in North-East Hamilton by 2016.”
    I think you should make contact urgently with the MoE and let them know that you have better data than them to base these decisions on.

    You could be a real hero.

    Or you could just be full of shit and mouthing off like a whiny bitch with no facts to back it up.

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  14. Mike Readman (361 comments) says:

    “The new secondary school will be the first new one in 40 years I believe. It reflects how strong the population growth there is.”

    Don’t you mean how weak the population growth there is? If there was strong population growth there would need to be one more than every 40 years.

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  15. PhilP (159 comments) says:

    @ Komata

    “The fact is that Hamilton North DOES need a new primary school, it DOES need a new secondary school , yet Moroney, despite being the local (Labour) MP”

    I may have read this wrong but I was under the impression that Tim McIndoe (National) was the local MP with Sue Moroney the local “list” MP, just saying…..

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  16. nickb (3,675 comments) says:

    Someone reading this blog would be forgiven for thinking Labour were still in power

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  17. Tom Jackson (2,519 comments) says:

    Moroney happens to be right. North Hamilton is served by two secondary schools, neither of which have a good reputation. Fairfield College is a mess, and Fraser High takes a large portion of its students from a couple of very bad areas (and some nice ones). It’s not that way with the primary schools. North Hamilton needs a big secondary school to serve Flagstaff, Rototuna and probably Pukete, for geographical reasons if nothing else. I live near Pukete and there’s no secondary school for miles.

    A lot of upwardly mobile people have bought properties zoned for Fairfield, and don’t want to send their kids there. Boys High and Girls High are OK schools, but its a lottery to get in. It’s all a bit hopeless really, but a lot of it is middle class angst.

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