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	<title>Comments on: One FCV reflagged</title>
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		<title>By: Griff</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/03/one_fcv_reflagged.html/comment-page-1#comment-1108567</link>
		<dc:creator>Griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 01:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seamen will be seamen.
Its all ok.
The stewards and any one from merchant or navy  will tell you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seamen will be seamen.<br />
Its all ok.<br />
The stewards and any one from merchant or navy  will tell you.</p>
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		<title>By: thedavincimode</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/03/one_fcv_reflagged.html/comment-page-1#comment-1108565</link>
		<dc:creator>thedavincimode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 01:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate you more you ... you ... you &lt;b&gt;rape culture denier&lt;/b&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate you more you &#8230; you &#8230; you <b>rape culture denier</b>.</p>
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		<title>By: RRM</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/03/one_fcv_reflagged.html/comment-page-1#comment-1108564</link>
		<dc:creator>RRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 01:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate you.</p>
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		<title>By: thedavincimode</title>
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		<dc:creator>thedavincimode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 01:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RRM

See, you&#039;re in denial.  Proof of the rape culture if indeed any more proof were required.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RRM</p>
<p>See, you&#8217;re in denial.  Proof of the rape culture if indeed any more proof were required.</p>
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		<title>By: RRM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 01:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK I give up - I&#039;ve searched the site for 20 minutes. 

What&#039;s this &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;rape culture&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; thing everyone keeps on about? 

And should it have a # in front of it? ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I give up &#8211; I&#8217;ve searched the site for 20 minutes. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s this <i><b>rape culture</b></i> thing everyone keeps on about? </p>
<p>And should it have a # in front of it? <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: thedavincimode</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/03/one_fcv_reflagged.html/comment-page-1#comment-1108548</link>
		<dc:creator>thedavincimode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 00:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Surely you aren&#039;t suggesting that there is a ... &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;rape culture&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; on board these foreign vessels ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely you aren&#8217;t suggesting that there is a &#8230; <b><i>rape culture</i></b> on board these foreign vessels &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RRM</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/03/one_fcv_reflagged.html/comment-page-1#comment-1108546</link>
		<dc:creator>RRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 00:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;it’s going to be a bit strange when a “NZ” vessel crewed by Ukrainians arrives home in the Ukraine. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You mean, like when all those container ships go &quot;home&quot; to Monrovia? ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>it’s going to be a bit strange when a “NZ” vessel crewed by Ukrainians arrives home in the Ukraine. </i></p></blockquote>
<p>You mean, like when all those container ships go &#8220;home&#8221; to Monrovia? <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: toms</title>
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		<dc:creator>toms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 00:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;... if Air NZ were forced to pay their flight crews European rates, and the staff were forced to join European trade unions...&quot;

Jetstar use Thai based cabin crews to operate their Phuket flights, and pay them about 8k a year. i know plenty of fight attendents who would would LOVE to see Thai crews paid higher pay rates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; if Air NZ were forced to pay their flight crews European rates, and the staff were forced to join European trade unions&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Jetstar use Thai based cabin crews to operate their Phuket flights, and pay them about 8k a year. i know plenty of fight attendents who would would LOVE to see Thai crews paid higher pay rates.</p>
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		<title>By: davidp</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 00:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So if a fishing vessel works in several different EEZs, does it have to be reflagged locally every time it drops nets?  Even if it only fishes in NZ waters, it&#039;s going to be a bit strange when a &quot;NZ&quot; vessel crewed by Ukrainians arrives home in the Ukraine. Do NZ transport and law enforcement staff need to be able to inspect the vessels when they&#039;re tied up at their home base?

Lastly, how does this work if other countries decide that, say, Air NZ aircraft need to be registered in Europe in order to fly there?  I presume that their European competitors would be quite happy if Air NZ were forced to pay their flight crews European rates, and the staff were forced to join European trade unions.

[DPF: There is no comparison to an aircraft flying though a country for a few hours, and a fishing vessel with crew who live on board for months at a time in a country&#039;s EEZ.

The fishing boats are here to fish New Zealand quota, on behalf of NZ companies that own that quota. The vessels tend to spend most of their time in one country.

Being flagged here mainly means that they are subject to NZ law when in NZ waters. I tend to think being able to stop people getting anally raped on board a ship working for a NZ company fishing NZ quota is a good thing]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if a fishing vessel works in several different EEZs, does it have to be reflagged locally every time it drops nets?  Even if it only fishes in NZ waters, it&#8217;s going to be a bit strange when a &#8220;NZ&#8221; vessel crewed by Ukrainians arrives home in the Ukraine. Do NZ transport and law enforcement staff need to be able to inspect the vessels when they&#8217;re tied up at their home base?</p>
<p>Lastly, how does this work if other countries decide that, say, Air NZ aircraft need to be registered in Europe in order to fly there?  I presume that their European competitors would be quite happy if Air NZ were forced to pay their flight crews European rates, and the staff were forced to join European trade unions.</p>
<p>[DPF: There is no comparison to an aircraft flying though a country for a few hours, and a fishing vessel with crew who live on board for months at a time in a country's EEZ.</p>
<p>The fishing boats are here to fish New Zealand quota, on behalf of NZ companies that own that quota. The vessels tend to spend most of their time in one country.</p>
<p>Being flagged here mainly means that they are subject to NZ law when in NZ waters. I tend to think being able to stop people getting anally raped on board a ship working for a NZ company fishing NZ quota is a good thing]</p>
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