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		<title>By: St Hubbins</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/03/the_battle_for_west_sydney.html/comment-page-1#comment-1107480</link>
		<dc:creator>St Hubbins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 00:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PaulL is right, Mara.

If you snigger at the &quot;budgie smugglers&quot; innuendo, you&#039;ve fallen for the media bullshit. Surf lifesavers wear speedos as part of their uniform. 

Abbott is also a volunteer firefighter.

The only charity work Gillard seems to have done is dodgy off-the-books legal stuff for her union mates when she was at Slater &amp; Gordon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PaulL is right, Mara.</p>
<p>If you snigger at the &#8220;budgie smugglers&#8221; innuendo, you&#8217;ve fallen for the media bullshit. Surf lifesavers wear speedos as part of their uniform. </p>
<p>Abbott is also a volunteer firefighter.</p>
<p>The only charity work Gillard seems to have done is dodgy off-the-books legal stuff for her union mates when she was at Slater &amp; Gordon.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulL</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 09:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing shameful about participating in sport - more politicians should.  If you participate in surf lifesaving, you wear budgie smugglers.  That&#039;s the way of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing shameful about participating in sport &#8211; more politicians should.  If you participate in surf lifesaving, you wear budgie smugglers.  That&#8217;s the way of it.</p>
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		<title>By: mara</title>
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		<dc:creator>mara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 03:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If John Howard  was standing he would win hands down. Also he is not believed to be a wearer of &quot;budgie-smugglers.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If John Howard  was standing he would win hands down. Also he is not believed to be a wearer of &#8220;budgie-smugglers.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Manolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 03:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All out after comrade Juliar: http://www.spectator.co.uk/australia/australia-features/8851081/a-slow-motion-car-crash/

&lt;i&gt;Above all else, Gillard is an oxymoron.  This is a woman who once championed an ‘independent’ foreign policy (left-wing code for snubbing Washington) only to now march in lockstep with Uncle Sam in a way that would make Harold Holt proud.  A woman who implemented a carbon tax after promising she would do no such thing.  A childless, unmarried feminist who is to the right of Dick Cheney on gay marriage.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All out after comrade Juliar: <a href="http://www.spectator.co.uk/australia/australia-features/8851081/a-slow-motion-car-crash/" rel="nofollow">http://www.spectator.co.uk/australia/australia-features/8851081/a-slow-motion-car-crash/</a></p>
<p><i>Above all else, Gillard is an oxymoron.  This is a woman who once championed an ‘independent’ foreign policy (left-wing code for snubbing Washington) only to now march in lockstep with Uncle Sam in a way that would make Harold Holt proud.  A woman who implemented a carbon tax after promising she would do no such thing.  A childless, unmarried feminist who is to the right of Dick Cheney on gay marriage.</i></p>
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		<title>By: MT_Tinman</title>
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		<dc:creator>MT_Tinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 01:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt; F E Smith (2,356) Says: 
March 5th, 2013 at 1:15 pm

And yet the political pundits all say that Abbot is heartily disliked and that the Libs should go back to Malcolm Turnbull as leader.

Perhaps the only place that Abbott is truly disliked is within Fairfax Newspapers?  &lt;/i&gt;

And, of course, in my cab - by 100% of the Ocker businessmen I have talked with recently (at least a dozen).

The feeling appears to be the Coalition will win despite Abbott but they would win convincingly with Turnbull.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> F E Smith (2,356) Says:<br />
March 5th, 2013 at 1:15 pm</p>
<p>And yet the political pundits all say that Abbot is heartily disliked and that the Libs should go back to Malcolm Turnbull as leader.</p>
<p>Perhaps the only place that Abbott is truly disliked is within Fairfax Newspapers?  </i></p>
<p>And, of course, in my cab &#8211; by 100% of the Ocker businessmen I have talked with recently (at least a dozen).</p>
<p>The feeling appears to be the Coalition will win despite Abbott but they would win convincingly with Turnbull.</p>
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		<title>By: DrDr</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrDr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 00:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was in Sydney last week and the prospect of Gillard&#039;s visit to West Sydney was getting a lot of coverage.  Most interviewed on the tv and in the papers didn&#039;t want a bar of it.  There was also criticism of her slumming it in a Novotel in Rooty Hill, rather than commuting from the Prime Minister&#039;s Official Residence.  I think she has well and truly cooked Labor&#039;s goose in Western Sydney and the only way they have any hope of recovery is to change back to Kevin Rudd.  Of course that will make more problems in caucus.  Interesting times...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in Sydney last week and the prospect of Gillard&#8217;s visit to West Sydney was getting a lot of coverage.  Most interviewed on the tv and in the papers didn&#8217;t want a bar of it.  There was also criticism of her slumming it in a Novotel in Rooty Hill, rather than commuting from the Prime Minister&#8217;s Official Residence.  I think she has well and truly cooked Labor&#8217;s goose in Western Sydney and the only way they have any hope of recovery is to change back to Kevin Rudd.  Of course that will make more problems in caucus.  Interesting times&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PaulL</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 00:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been tracking some of this (and commenting on it occasionally on my poorly visited blog: http://technpol.wordpress.com/2013/03/04/roads-in-western-sydney/

I agree with Mumble, the polls blogger at The Australian (and a not so closet leftie) that it&#039;s not really about Western Sydney, they&#039;re a symptom of the fact that Labor is losing support across Australia.  In NSW in particular they have a real problem with the corruption allegations relating to the previous State Govt, so despite the new Liberal govt generally being seen as useless, at least they&#039;re not (yet) corrupt.

The way that Julia is going about this is just wrong.  She&#039;s offering bribes, but they&#039;re not good bribes.  If you bribe someone with their own money, there&#039;s really not much point in putting conditions on it, and if you&#039;re in a bidding war it&#039;s kind of important that your bid be higher than the last guy&#039;s.   

In short, I think she&#039;s getting really bad advice on this stuff, and further, she&#039;s not self aware or astute enough to notice that it&#039;s bad advice.  I think things are going bad for her, and her main hopes that are left (at least at the moment - a week is of course a long time in politics) are:
1.  To make people dislike Abbott more than they already do.  I think that&#039;s hard, a lot of people already dislike him, the remainder will be hard to convince.  People aren&#039;t supporting him because they like him, they&#039;re supporting him because he&#039;s better than the alternative.  (And I note that I kind of like Abbott, but I know I&#039;m in the minority there)
2.  To hope that the Libs implode through doing stupid shit.  They have a history of doing that, but so far Abbott and co are running a really disciplined machine.

I think Labour are in trouble.  A couple weeks back I had it as a 50/50 thing.  At the moment I&#039;d say the Libs are looking pretty safe.  But they are capable of stuffing it up.  I don&#039;t think Julia is capable of taking it away from them, so it&#039;s up to Tony to make or break.  But a change of leader on either side would change the calculations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been tracking some of this (and commenting on it occasionally on my poorly visited blog: <a href="http://technpol.wordpress.com/2013/03/04/roads-in-western-sydney/" rel="nofollow">http://technpol.wordpress.com/2013/03/04/roads-in-western-sydney/</a></p>
<p>I agree with Mumble, the polls blogger at The Australian (and a not so closet leftie) that it&#8217;s not really about Western Sydney, they&#8217;re a symptom of the fact that Labor is losing support across Australia.  In NSW in particular they have a real problem with the corruption allegations relating to the previous State Govt, so despite the new Liberal govt generally being seen as useless, at least they&#8217;re not (yet) corrupt.</p>
<p>The way that Julia is going about this is just wrong.  She&#8217;s offering bribes, but they&#8217;re not good bribes.  If you bribe someone with their own money, there&#8217;s really not much point in putting conditions on it, and if you&#8217;re in a bidding war it&#8217;s kind of important that your bid be higher than the last guy&#8217;s.   </p>
<p>In short, I think she&#8217;s getting really bad advice on this stuff, and further, she&#8217;s not self aware or astute enough to notice that it&#8217;s bad advice.  I think things are going bad for her, and her main hopes that are left (at least at the moment &#8211; a week is of course a long time in politics) are:<br />
1.  To make people dislike Abbott more than they already do.  I think that&#8217;s hard, a lot of people already dislike him, the remainder will be hard to convince.  People aren&#8217;t supporting him because they like him, they&#8217;re supporting him because he&#8217;s better than the alternative.  (And I note that I kind of like Abbott, but I know I&#8217;m in the minority there)<br />
2.  To hope that the Libs implode through doing stupid shit.  They have a history of doing that, but so far Abbott and co are running a really disciplined machine.</p>
<p>I think Labour are in trouble.  A couple weeks back I had it as a 50/50 thing.  At the moment I&#8217;d say the Libs are looking pretty safe.  But they are capable of stuffing it up.  I don&#8217;t think Julia is capable of taking it away from them, so it&#8217;s up to Tony to make or break.  But a change of leader on either side would change the calculations.</p>
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		<title>By: RightNow</title>
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		<dc:creator>RightNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 00:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t worry about that too much Cunningham, they have a decade of structural deficit ahead of them already thanks to Juliar&#039;s short time at the helm.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/treasury/decade-of-deficits-puts-focus-on-spending-cuts-says-new-economic-modelling/story-fn59nsif-1226589535108]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t worry about that too much Cunningham, they have a decade of structural deficit ahead of them already thanks to Juliar&#8217;s short time at the helm.<br />
<a href="http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/treasury/decade-of-deficits-puts-focus-on-spending-cuts-says-new-economic-modelling/story-fn59nsif-1226589535108" rel="nofollow">http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/treasury/decade-of-deficits-puts-focus-on-spending-cuts-says-new-economic-modelling/story-fn59nsif-1226589535108</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cunningham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 00:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bugger, I am sure New Zealand can catch up with Australia much quicker with Labor in charge over there so we should be hoping they win again :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bugger, I am sure New Zealand can catch up with Australia much quicker with Labor in charge over there so we should be hoping they win again <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: F E Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>F E Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 00:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;If given the choice of four prime ministers, 39.2 per cent of voters would choose Mr Abbott, followed by Mr Rudd at 26 per cent, Malcolm Turnbull at 22.1 per cent, and Ms Gillard at just 13.2 per cent.&lt;/em&gt;
  
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And yet the political pundits all say that Abbot is heartily disliked and that the Libs should go back to Malcolm Turnbull as leader.

 Perhaps the only place that Abbott is truly disliked is within Fairfax Newspapers?&#160; Not to worry, they will be defunct soon and they dislike Abbott all they like on their own time.
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>If given the choice of four prime ministers, 39.2 per cent of voters would choose Mr Abbott, followed by Mr Rudd at 26 per cent, Malcolm Turnbull at 22.1 per cent, and Ms Gillard at just 13.2 per cent.</em></p>
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<p>And yet the political pundits all say that Abbot is heartily disliked and that the Libs should go back to Malcolm Turnbull as leader.</p>
<p> Perhaps the only place that Abbott is truly disliked is within Fairfax Newspapers?&nbsp; Not to worry, they will be defunct soon and they dislike Abbott all they like on their own time.</p>
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		<title>By: krazykiwi</title>
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		<dc:creator>krazykiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 23:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
What is it about the left that they do “Hate” so well 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hate is &#039;subjective and emotional&#039;, and appears naturally when one is incapable of &#039;objective and rational&#039;.

Gillard is toast. Unless of course she can have people vote for her multiple times like Barry managed to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
What is it about the left that they do “Hate” so well
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<p>Hate is &#8216;subjective and emotional&#8217;, and appears naturally when one is incapable of &#8216;objective and rational&#8217;.</p>
<p>Gillard is toast. Unless of course she can have people vote for her multiple times like Barry managed to.</p>
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		<title>By: kowtow</title>
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		<dc:creator>kowtow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 23:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great. When Juliar loses ,we won&#039;t have to take their illegal immigrants.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great. When Juliar loses ,we won&#8217;t have to take their illegal immigrants.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Snack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Snack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 23:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do note from reading the comments, that the primary Labor election tactic, that is manufacturing a false meme of hatred for Abbott, is alive and well in a certain segment of the Australian commentariat.

What is it about the left that they do &quot;Hate&quot; so well ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do note from reading the comments, that the primary Labor election tactic, that is manufacturing a false meme of hatred for Abbott, is alive and well in a certain segment of the Australian commentariat.</p>
<p>What is it about the left that they do &#8220;Hate&#8221; so well ?</p>
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		<title>By: Manolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 23:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a few more months comrade Gillard will be history.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a few more months comrade Gillard will be history.</p>
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