So much for no boat people wanting to come to NZ

April 10th, 2013 at 12:00 pm by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

A ramshackle fishing boat carrying 66 suspected asylum seekers from Sri Lanka has arrived in Australia – carrying passengers holding a sign saying “We want to go to New Zealand”.

The overcrowded wooden fishing vessel carrying men, women and children was spotted off the coast of Geraldton, about 400km north of Perth in Western Australia.

It is believed to be the first boat to have travelled so far south in recent years. Most asylum seekers arrive near Christmas Island, more than 2000km north, where they are usually intercepted.

The boat, thought to have been at sea for 44 days, was spotted by two local men testing the motor of a dinghy about 500m offshore.

It was met by customs and police officers about 12pm yesterday and towed into harbour.

Photographs show a group of passengers holding a sign with the words: “We want to go to New Zealand. Please help us”.

A New Zealand flag was flying on the boat.

While I admire their good taste in choosing New Zealand over Australia, these journeys are very dangerous.

The passengers included four babies and a pregnant woman.

Could easily have been tragic.

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44 Responses to “So much for no boat people wanting to come to NZ”

  1. Tristan (63 comments) says:

    oh jesus fucking christ don’t start a John Howard style scare campaign. Sure it might buy you an election but at what cost?

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  2. Harriet (4,771 comments) says:

    “….Could easily have been tragic….”

    That’s why it has to stop.

    Government can’t encourage people to do dangerous things.

    TPO’s worked – Howard had it down to 2 boats in his entire final year in office.

    Labor have drowned more than 500 men women and children by lifting the TPO’s.

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  3. dime (9,799 comments) says:

    “Labor have drowned more than 500 men women and children by lifting the TPO’s.” – ouch!

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  4. CameronFoxton (28 comments) says:

    maybe instead of schooling or whatever NZ aid to these countries could be in the form of safer boats for people smugglers, it might be worth it just to see the look on winston’s face when they start cruising into tauranga

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  5. Viking2 (11,346 comments) says:

    So they spent 44 days at sea with no idea where they were going and how they were going to get there.
    Hmm and they wanted to land in NZ. Just in case you lost your way we need to point out that NZ is to the East of Australia and the boat was on the West Coast of Australia with a largish island in between.

    Fancy being conned by some press set up.

    Maybe it was Mc Cully on his way to China.

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  6. Harriet (4,771 comments) says:

    Sorry it’s supposed to be TPV – temporary protection visa.

    Which brings me to what Andrew Bolt said a couple of weeks ago:

    “What is not known[by the public] is that the boat people who are given refugee status in Australia because it is too ‘dangerous’ to be sent home use welfare payments to return home as soon as possable.So as to get future wifes, and to place applications[to australia] for visas for extended families.”

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  7. toms (301 comments) says:

    “…So much for no boat people wanting to come to NZ…”

    Lots of people want to come to New Zealand from the third world. Hell, lots of people want to come here from everywhere (why we are not busily recruiting the ten of thousands of unemployed young Italians and Spaniards as the new 10 Euro migrants I don’t know, but that is another story).

    Getting here in a boat is a different matter, given that they would have Australia in sight for the first half of the trip and nowhere in sight for the second half of the trip as they cross 1500km of the Tasman Sea. The windy, stormy Tasman Sea.

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  8. david (2,571 comments) says:

    Stuff won’t publish a comment suggesting that the naysayers who gave the Government shit for creating contingency plans only a few months ago should stand up and apologise. Doesn’t fit the MSM narrative obviously …. knuckledragging pricks

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  9. Dave Stringer (188 comments) says:

    easoem to leave Sri Lanka and claim to be refugees.
    The Tamil Tigers (LTTE) are gone, that civil war ended nearly 5 years ago now. Yes, there are still several ethnicities in Sri Lanka (Tamil, Sinhala, Muslim (not truly an ethnicity but thought of as one over there,) Burghers (they are the decendants of aliances between pre-British colonisers and locals – again, not really an ethnicity but that’s their way of thinking,) and others I can’t remember right now, the point is that they are all treated the same by the government. Yes, the governmnt is probably corrupt, that’s how things happen in countries like that – just look at the way a single family brought about a powerhouse like SIngapore and you get the idea.
    The bottom line is that they have free schooling, free hospitals, a reasonable economy and are recovering from an internal conflict that destroyed infrastructure and fostered hatred. The infrastructure is being rebuilt and the hatred is no longer apparent to me, and I’ve visited many times. Certainly there is no persecution of a class of people based on religion, ethnicity or race, any more than there is here in New Zealand.
    My view, send them, and any other Sri Lankans already here in NZ based on a claim for refugee status, back and refuse them refugee status, keep that for peoples who are being persecuted,

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  10. kowtow (8,154 comments) says:

    the whole boat people thing is a scam.

    Can’t call em illegal immigrants ,why not?

    These people have been known to fly to Europe ,take a ship across the Atlantic to Canada and then set ashore in life boats. And the canadians still took them in!

    Illegal immigrants,tow their fucking boats back out to sea!If they could sail to Australia they can fucking well sail “home” again.

    We’re broke ,why accept more debt?

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  11. kowtow (8,154 comments) says:

    Even better ,the boat was meant to be aid for fishermen after the tsunami!

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/deutsche-bank-donated-asylum-boat-hits-our-shores/story-e6freuy9-1226616276978

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  12. Muzza M (291 comments) says:

    And what attracts them to NZ, in one word WELFARE. When I lived in Nelson we have a lot of refugees from Burma, the local lotto outlet did a good trade in scratchy cards from them.

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  13. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    Could easily have been tragic

    It’s already tragic.

    One of their compatriots, a ruthless crook, has already taken their life savings with the promise (aka lie) of a fresh start.

    That person should be found and used as shark bait.

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  14. calendar girl (1,213 comments) says:

    “…. it might be worth it just to see the look on winston’s face when they start cruising into tauranga”

    Winston Peters doesn’t care about Tauranga – he never did. The Tauranga electorate was just a home of political convenience. Now he’s safely ensconced in his trendy harbourside residence in central Auckland. Not much to worry about after a near-lifetime in politics.

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  15. OneTrack (2,970 comments) says:

    “toms (214) Says:
    April 10th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
    “…So much for no boat people wanting to come to NZ…”

    Getting here in a boat is a different matter, given that they would have Australia in sight for the first half of the trip and nowhere in sight for the second half of the trip as they cross 1500km of the Tasman Sea. The windy, stormy Tasman Sea.”

    Are you saying the Sri Lankans are incapable of sailing across the Tasman sea? That’s a bit bigoted isn’t it?

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  16. Fisiani (1,024 comments) says:

    If God forbid there was ever a Labour-Greens government in New Zealand that would signal to every illegal immigrant in the world that the doors to New Zealand were wide open to anyone who made it within cooee. The Greens have NEVER opposed illegal immigration. They have actually argued FOR illegal immigrants. Not only would they ruin the NZ economy by printing money, borrowing billions and increase taxes they would as pacifist limp wristed Lefties fail to defend New Zealand. Too many people sadly give an unthinking vote to the Greens as we have seen in the last three elections. Imagine Catherine Delahunty as Minister of Immigration 2014-17 and imagine how that would devastate New Zealand

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  17. Bob R (1,358 comments) says:

    @ Fisiani,

    In theory the Greens should be against increasing population numbers in developed countries via immigration as this increases the carbon footprint. However, their environmental concerns quickly go out the window when that quandry arises.

    The Sierra Club in the US are an interesting example.

    http://articles.latimes.com/2002/jun/09/magazine/tm-45400

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  18. RRM (9,770 comments) says:

    So much for no boat people wanting to come to NZ

    There’s a big difference between wanting something and achieving it, as I am sure you know well DPF.

    New Zealand is a lot further from Sri Lanka than Perth is. (A LOT further – check it out!) And I would imagine especially so if your craft is an overcrowded, rotten old wooden POS like that.

    I’m no sailor but I know a few, apparently the Tasman sea is a nasty place even if you have a good ship and all top quality gear.

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  19. UrbanNeocolonialist (267 comments) says:

    Really easy way to stop boat people, asylum seekers and economic refugees from coming to NZ:

    Pay other countries (probably mostly 3rd world) that will give citizenship to any such people arriving in NZ. If we were to offer $10-20,000 per refugee for other countries to give them citizenship and ensure their welfare for the next 5-10 years then there would be no shortage of takers. Genuine refugees would still get somewhere safer to go than the country they came from and economic refugees would stop trying it on.

    Would save NZ a huge amount of money and trouble, and would cut down massively on the number of refugees trying it on.

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  20. RRM (9,770 comments) says:

    Is 750 refugees each year coming into a country of 4 million people really a big problem?

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  21. toms (301 comments) says:

    “…Are you saying the Sri Lankans are incapable of sailing across the Tasman sea..?”

    Try Googling images “boat people Australia” and look at the vessels they are bobbing about in. It would defy a bunch of Vikings commanded by Shackleton to make it here in one of them.

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  22. Jack5 (5,007 comments) says:

    Refugees?

    These people are Tamil queue jumpers, possibly ex-guerrillas.

    Why should they get priority over genuine refugees who apply to be part of the annual quota?

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  23. calendar girl (1,213 comments) says:

    “Is 750 refugees each year coming into a country of 4 million people really a big problem?”

    Perhaps you should pose that question only when you have established the true number – including all dependents (relatives and others) of each who are allowed into NZ subsequently on compassionate grounds. A series of OIA questions should enable you to assemble factual information.

    If the “multiplier” effect proves to be 10:1 as has been suggested in some circles, or even greater, the basic premise of the your question would represent a material understatement.

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  24. RRM (9,770 comments) says:

    No wisearse, I’ll pose my question my way, thank you very much.

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  25. Judith (8,531 comments) says:

    Jack5

    I agree, no queue jumpers. It is not fair to those that show the initiative and sense of propriety by doing it properly.

    I suppose if they make it to Perth, the Australian government gives them a first class ticket to NZ – because that is where they want to be?

    Apparently we are short of Taxidermists (they are a dying profession – no pun intended)

    Any of those that manage to make it this far can stay – for the rest – next stop South America.

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  26. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    Is 750 refugees each year coming into a country of 4 million people really a big problem?

    That depends, in a NIMBY kinda way …

    The area I live in has a significant Somaili refugee population, and it’s been steadily growing. Some of their attitudes to women and girls appear to be resistant to any assimilation coaching, the result being local schools having difficulty with parents not supporting education of their daughters. Actually they actively oppose it, and the management of this impacts the learning of all students.

    Of couse there are plenty of NZers who have never met a refugee, let alone been impacted by large groups demonstrating counter-cultural values, so I guess it’s not really ‘a big problem’ for them.

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  27. dime (9,799 comments) says:

    “Is 750 refugees each year coming into a country of 4 million people really a big problem?”

    depends.

    do they know how to treat women properly? thats the first question of many

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  28. calendar girl (1,213 comments) says:

    “No wisearse, I’ll pose my question my way, thank you very much.”

    Touchy! You have a good day.

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  29. Black with a Vengeance (1,770 comments) says:

    Of course boat people want to come to NZ. They always have and always will.

    How is this even news?

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  30. Bob R (1,358 comments) says:

    ***Is 750 refugees each year coming into a country of 4 million people really a big problem?***

    There are 200,000 children living in poverty aren’t there? We can’t afford to provide for people here as it is.

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  31. mara (762 comments) says:

    These so called refugees are really just destination shoppers who can afford to pay smugglers to provide transportation to a soft cock Western country like Australia, which is known to be too queasy to treat them as the invaders that they really are. Australia says it is powerless to prevent them from heading to NZ; hello, calling John Key whose first duty is to protect our borders … what are you going to do about this big boy?

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  32. Black with a Vengeance (1,770 comments) says:

    What would you like him to do mara?

    And what would you do if you saw a boatload trying to land here ?…go all postal on them?

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  33. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    We DO NOT need these people. Send them back!

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  34. Black with a Vengeance (1,770 comments) says:

    That’s probably what all Pasifikan people thought when whitey sailed up to their shores too ,Manhole. :)

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  35. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    Manhole – LOL

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  36. Viking2 (11,346 comments) says:

    calendar girl (873) Says:
    April 10th, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    “…. it might be worth it just to see the look on winston’s face when they start cruising into tauranga”

    Winston Peters doesn’t care about Tauranga – he never did. The Tauranga electorate was just a home of political convenience. Now he’s safely ensconced in his trendy harbourside residence in central Auckland. Not much to worry about after a near-lifetime in politics.
    =-==========================

    He was good for Tauranga. He got us a noice bridge which we are ever grateful for, and without a toll on it. After all we did pay for the first one ourselves and we do have NZ’s first toll Rd which National and the roads outfit refuse to buy or fund despite its necessity.
    So unless you know what you are talking about please remain ignorant and keep your trap shut.
    Cheers

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  37. calendar girl (1,213 comments) says:

    V2, as I said, a home of political convenience for Winston. He was always good at pork barrel politics, but he soon turned his back on Tauranga for greener pastures.

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  38. Nostalgia-NZ (5,093 comments) says:

    His family actually come from Tauranga calender girl, try to say something informed.

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  39. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    I thought he was from Northland actually

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  40. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    We DO NOT need these people. Send them back!

    Decisions based on need favour the strong, not the lawful.

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  41. Reid (16,189 comments) says:

    Is 750 refugees each year coming into a country of 4 million people really a big problem?

    750 people who can bring all their families over in due course, get free housing and actually get a house GIVEN yes GIVEN to the original refugees, spend all their life on the dole, bring more family over, get free health care, free education, all the things AND MORE than we, the people who pay for it all, get.

    And it happens each and every year. Year after year. Decade after decade.

    I don’t know.

    Is that a problem?

    Gee, what a puzzle.

    It wouldn’t be if we didn’t let them bring their families over and GIVE yes GIVE them free houses not just pay their rent and MADE their kids get jobs and MADE their kids support their parents like they did in the old country, but we don’t do any of that. That would be wacist.

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  42. enjiner (17 comments) says:

    Perhaps you should pose that question only when you have established the true number – including all dependents (relatives and others) of each who are allowed into NZ subsequently on compassionate grounds. A series of OIA questions should enable you to assemble factual information.

    If the “multiplier” effect proves to be 10:1 as has been suggested in some circles, or even greater, the basic premise of the your question would represent a material understatement.

    Those dependents are still counted as part of the 750 quota, believe it or not. Unless they arrive not as refugees but as regular migrants, in which case I understand the barrier is a lot higher. Can you point me to the immigration qualifier that allows this? What I’ve read about this situation indicates that non-refugees have to have basic English and economic sufficiency.

    get free housing and actually get a house GIVEN yes GIVEN to the original refugees

    WOW! Please tell me how this works, I’m helping a refugee family at the moment and Refugee Services didn’t tell me anything about this. This family just rents a house from Housing New Zealand, same as regular low-income kiwis, although they keep it in much better shape than the yobbos next door. I had NO IDEA they qualified for a free house.

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  43. Nostalgia-NZ (5,093 comments) says:

    Partly from Northland milkenmild, also Welcome Bay and the Mount,

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  44. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    You sound a bit bitter calendar girl?

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