Wilson planned to flee to Australia

April 11th, 2013 at 9:59 am by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

Evidence included a statement from the woman alleging Wilson had indicated he would flee New Zealand to escape his parole conditions.

“She also [said] that in their previous telephone conversations Mr Wilson talked about how he wanted to take her to Australia, how he always had $1000 in his back pocket and how it was easy for him to break his bracelet off and run away,” the decision said.

Not even Australia deserves Wilson.

Stewart Murray Wilson was recalled to prison on an interim basis on February 21, pending yesterday’s parole hearing. He has now been recalled indefinitely.

Good. I said when he was released that it would only be a matter of time before he broke his conditions. In prison, there will be no more victims.

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34 Responses to “Wilson planned to flee to Australia”

  1. peterwn (3,312 comments) says:

    He probably thought that you could just board a plane to Oz without a passport and similarly go through Oz immigration, just like you could do in the good old days.

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  2. liarbors a joke (1,069 comments) says:

    Apparently he had a $4000 lotto win…so much for karma

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  3. skyblue (215 comments) says:

    A pity we did not let him leave.

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  4. hj (7,067 comments) says:

    Bullshit he just talked. A commentator on RNZ said he wouldn’t have got beyond the football field… doesn’t even have a passport.

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  5. Graeme Edgeler (3,290 comments) says:

    He has now been recalled indefinitely.

    Nope. He got a finite sentence. He has been recalled until that’s up.

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  6. hamnidaV2 (247 comments) says:

    Can’t understand why he’s still alive.

    What value does he add to society?

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  7. RRM (10,034 comments) says:

    Elderly convicted multiple rapist seeks lady for international travel and sexy fun times.

    Must have funds. Please enclose: Evidence of funds.

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  8. Grendel (1,005 comments) says:

    well Ham, he generates column inches for the media so therefore he has more value than you.

    and yet he is still worthless scum.

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  9. Paulus (2,672 comments) says:

    I cannot understand the fuss over him wanting to go to Australia.

    He has not got a passport, and he would be denied any entry as he has a criminal conviction (Officially – in excess of 12 months).

    Typical media beat up.

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  10. Manolo (14,081 comments) says:

    As if the Australians would need this animal.

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  11. Mark (1,493 comments) says:

    They simply should lock this bloke up permanently.

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  12. Scott (1,821 comments) says:

    According to the article in 1996 he was given an effective sentence of 21 years. Given that he had shown no remorse one wonders why he was released early anyway? Would it have been better to keep him in jail for the full sentence? That way he would not be released until 2017.

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  13. Nigel Kearney (1,051 comments) says:

    If he is determined to go to Australia, I hear there are some asylum seekers with a highly seaworthy vessel they are no longer using.

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  14. Nostalgia-NZ (5,281 comments) says:

    $1,000 in his pocket and (another) fantasy phone call and it’s off to recall he goes. The price of being a fantasist and bragging.

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  15. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    There is plenty of ways to get to Australia without a passport, and there are always people eager to gain money by risking taking someone of his ‘fame’.

    The issue is whether he would have made it to Aus. I doubt it. The type of people he would require assistance from would be well aware that he was ‘disposable’. I doubt he would have got out of NZ waters – his sheer arrogance and obnoxious attitude annoying his rescuers would have assisted in his demise.

    Other than that, if he thinks he could get anywhere in the manner he would need to travel for $1000 or even $4000 he is dreaming. The average boat trip to Australia in such conditions cost the last person caught $20,000.

    He was never going to be on the outside long – just as he is the kind of sex offender that will never be cured – even castration would not stop him offending. He is one of a very small number of psychopathic sex offenders – there is and never will be any rehabilitation of this man.

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  16. labrator (1,850 comments) says:

    Can’t understand why he’s still alive.

    What value does he add to society?

    So you are pro-death-penalty?

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  17. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    In prison, there will be no more victims.

    Actually, he’s due for release in 2015.

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  18. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    The irony is that now that he’s back in prison, he can contact the woman he was not permitted to contact while he was out of prison. :)

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  19. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    ross69 (2,191) Says:
    April 11th, 2013 at 12:38 pm
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    I guess it could be called entrapment, but they should have let him try to leave the country, then they could have put him inside on the new conviction, and made sure he was there a lot longer.

    No more victims in prison? Really – with all the young men that get sent there on driving charges etc – there will always be victims where this man is – maybe not physical ones, but he will be stuffing with someones mind – no matter where he is.
    He should be isolated for the rest of his life. He requires very specialist attention which I believe the standard prison is unable to provide him.

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  20. krazykiwi (9,186 comments) says:

    He planned to flee, and we stopped him?

    Many kiwis would line up at the saussage sizzle to fund his trip, and then onwards to a job down a deep, deep mine… where his co-workers could ‘show’ him how that dangerous drilling equipment is used.

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  21. flipper (4,231 comments) says:

    Apart from one or two sensible contributions (Graeme E, Judith Nostalgia) the contributions on this matter simply illustrate the ignorance and stupidity of the masses….Dept. of Corrections and, in this case, the parole Board, included. But they at least have appropriate reasons to practice the precautionary principle.

    Unless Wilson took the route Judith canvassed he would never make it to Australia….that is even supposing he could defeat the bracelet, monitoring arrangements and actually get to the Wanganui Harbour and a yacht, or the Wanganui airport and a private jet. :)

    Look, this asshole has two legal, non-internet capable cell phones, and gets National Super as a source of income. But he has virtually nothing apart from food on which he can spend $600+ per fortnight. Hence the $4000 referred to is not unreasonable.

    Eventually this creature will be released, like it, or lump it. Accept it. It is not negotiable… unless he commits a serious criminal offence immediately upon release. .

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  22. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    The woman he communicated with has apparently been communicating with him for the last 7 years. She didn’t want him recalled to prison.

    http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/beast-blenheim-s-pen-pal-slams-prison-recall-5366015

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  23. RRM (10,034 comments) says:

    Actually, he’s due for release in 2015.

    At which time he’ll be 69.

    He’s 66 now but he looks about 96 in the most recent photos of him I’ve seen in the news. If that sack of shit makes it to 2015 I have my doubts about his capability of waging violent crime…

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  24. nasska (11,813 comments) says:

    Wilson must rue the way he chose his victims. A little forethought on his part & the name suppression normally granted to sex offenders would have been automatic. Instead of being treated as a pariah & having his parole conditions publicly scrutinised by the media he would by now be set up in a suburb free to get on with his hobbies.

    Rather than sizing up his next mark while being protected & coddled by mad, overeducated know alls he’s back banged up in pokey for another year or two.

    All because the unfeeling justice system didn’t follow its normal protocol of protecting the predator & creating new victims.

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  25. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    flipper (1,488) Says:
    April 11th, 2013 at 12:43 pm

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    Totally agree – he will be free one day. The question is how does the community deal with that because as you say, we will have to.

    He should be at the Mason Clinic – I do not understand why he continues to be mainstream. I believe enough sections have been conducted – but none make the ultimate recommendation. Psychopathy is a tricky thing – some say it is ‘insanity’ however many argue it is not. He knew and still knows exactly what he is doing. There is some question as to whether he even believes his crimes are ‘wrong’.

    Nasska – the justice system does not have the ability or legal right to keep him in prison – its got nothing to do with what they think or would like to do. They went to great lengths to protect the community – and actually achieved that – he did not commit any crime – he just broke his parole conditions. They cannot keep him in prison forever, our laws just do not allow that.

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  26. nasska (11,813 comments) says:

    Judith

    On this rare instance I agree with you. The system has on this occasion worked as well as the law of the land permits.

    I was more thinking of the ramifications if the normal pattern of name suppression had occurred. You surely are not so naive to believe that things wouldn’t have been much easier for him had his identity been unknown to the press & public.

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  27. David Garrett (7,565 comments) says:

    As couple of sensible comments in there along with a lot of dross….

    Scott: He was released earlier because of the Parole Act, but also so the Parole Board could impose conditions on him. When he is released in 2015 or 2017 or whatever it is, they are unable to put any conditions on him, unless one of these new extended supervision orders is successfully applied for…is that possible in his case Graeme E? Given when he was sentenced?

    RRM: The assumption that older – or even elderly – offenders are “past it” is often wrong, especially sex offenders like this guy. The oldest prisoner in NZ is an 84 year old sex offender in Pare who is considered too dangerous to release. Stan Reid was 83 when he was released in 1983 at the urging of a Christchurch do gooder…six weeks later he tried to rape a nun.

    Wilson is an example of the kind of problem we created when we walked away from truly harsh penalties, and that move began even before the abolition of the death penalty in 1961. In former times, Wilson would have been worked to death breaking rocks in the quarry next to Mt Eden. We are not allowed to do that now because it’s considered inhumane, (never mind the victims) so we have to work out other ways of dealing with the truly unreformable individuals who will always pose a risk.

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  28. Scott (1,821 comments) says:

    Thanks for your comments David, very informative. It is a difficult situation because once the guy has served out his 21 years then he must be released. We cannot keep a person in prison indefinitely based on what they might do? That could lead to all sorts of abuses.

    But yes perhaps hard labour might be the answer?

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  29. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    David Garrett (3,538) Says:
    April 11th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
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    I agree with most of what you say except the last bit.

    The problem is not the harsh penalty or that there should be the death penalty – that is simply not an option unless we want to start joining the sorts of regimes we have been fighting against.

    The issue is very much to do with mental illness and the manner in which we define it and diagnose forensically.
    This individual is not just a sex offender, he is a psychopath and that makes him an entirely different and dangerous type of person to deal with because he can and does ‘pass’ the psychiatric assessments. However one does not have to be a qualified psychiatrist to know that this man will never be able to live in the community because his mental functioning is ‘wrong’. He shows no remorse, does not believe his behaviour is wrong, sees nothing wrong with sexual relations with young children, adults, animals and even cardboard boxes (don’t ask I can’t tell you).

    Now, is he mentally ill ? – in essence he meets most of the criteria – but the way we assess people like him (due to the system not being geared to recognise the behaviour as a mental illness) means he cannot be institutionalised using current criteria.

    It is that criteria that allows people that have either psychological or psychiatric illnesses to be included in the mainstream, and therefore fall under the radar that should be preventing their release.

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  30. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    nasska (6,058) Says:
    April 11th, 2013 at 1:09 pm

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    Yes I agree – had he got name suppression we would not know who he was, however, his crimes were such that name suppression was never an option. Name suppression is not given for the offender in cases like his – only to protect the victims – and even then there are times when it is applied for, and the Courts will state that in the matter of public safety it cannot be granted. In such cases other means are sometimes taken to protect the victims.

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  31. gump (1,662 comments) says:

    What the hell is wrong with women?

    This isn’t the first time that some crazy bird has fallen in love with a high profile prisoner. Are they attracted to the notoriety?

    http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/beast-blenheim-s-pen-pal-slams-prison-recall-5366015

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  32. Scott (1,821 comments) says:

    Judith – I just can’t agree with your assessment that he is mentally ill. With the decline of the use of the Christian worldview we have somehow got the idea that people who do bad things are mentally ill. What about, he is a bad person who chooses to do bad things? So he could change, but chooses not to change. Because he likes what he is doing.

    I am just a great believer in the sinfulness and falleness of mankind. It just makes so much sense when we see people like this. He is a moral actor who is making moral choices. That’s the only way we can have a decent justice system.

    It also gives dignity to the man. It means that he can change. Right now he just chooses not to.

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  33. Steve (North Shore) (4,591 comments) says:

    This is all by design, he will be free in a few years – untouchable

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  34. hmmokrightitis (1,595 comments) says:

    Gren, you made my day :)

    “well Ham, he generates column inches for the media so therefore he has more value than you.

    and yet he is still worthless scum.”

    Pure gold. Thank you :)

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