Gilmore resigns

May 12th, 2013 at 5:49 pm by David Farrar

has announced:

“It is with a heavy heart and great sadness that I announce my intention to resign from Parliament.

“After taking counsel from colleagues and family in recent days, I have decided that to stay on in Parliament would only serve to cause my loved ones more upset, and cause me undeserved further stress.

“I have made mistakes. I am human. But the attacks on my integrity have started taking a toll on those around me and this is unfair on them

“I also want to make clear my support for the National Party and Prime Minister John Key remains unwavering.”

“Finally, I want to apologise once again to all those people who I’ve let down with my behaviour. I’m determined to learn from those lessons as I continue my life with more grace and humility.

“I will seek to make a final statement in Parliament on Tuesday.”

It is the right decision for both himself and for the Government.

In the past week the Government has just had a successful float of Mighty River Power, a massive drop in unemployment, an improvement in the financial statements, a top 10 rating from Stand and Poors, an Auckland Housing Accord and this week have their Budget. It is intolerable that so much good news was getting drowned out by this issue.

Congratulations to Claudette Hauiti who will be joining Paul Foster-Bell as a new List MP later this month.

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124 Responses to “Gilmore resigns”

  1. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    About time. Good riddance (and better selection process).

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  2. Jack5 (4,905 comments) says:

    Claudette Hauiti – a Maori lesbian – steps up into Parliament.
    It’s been a great political year for homosexuals.

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  3. hmmokrightitis (1,572 comments) says:

    Oh fuck off Jack. Do you get assessed on whether you suck or blow in your job? Cos I can pick both, just from that post alone.

    About time the right thing was done. Finally, a scrap of decency from Gilmore. Wonder if it took “Want to work in the country again dickhead” to get him to decide?

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  4. SHG (370 comments) says:

    That’s the “I apologise if anybody took offense” version of a resignation statement. That is to say, completely frickin’ clueless.

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  5. Jack5 (4,905 comments) says:

    Now the crocodile tears and ersatz sympathy for Gilmore pour from those who have politically lynched him.

    And hhmokrightis, fuck off yourself with your gay obscenities.

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  6. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    The fundie fuckwits are quick off the mark this weekend. I imagine they have spent a lot of time “researching” depraved homo activities online yet again just to make sure they know how offended they still are by bum sex and fanny munching.

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  7. Tom Jackson (2,529 comments) says:

    Wonder what they threatened him with?

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  8. Jack5 (4,905 comments) says:

    Re expat’s 6.01 post:

    From the tone of your post, Expat, it’s easy to see why born-again Christians, conservative Third World Christians, Muslims and many others are so prejudiced against homosexuals.

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  10. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Jack5

    What has what you do in the bedroom have to do with how you do your job.?

    Presumably you applied for the ones that had’ onanism’ as a job spec.

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  11. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Explain please Jacky as you make no sense to those who aren’t indoctrinated into your special world.

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  12. nasska (10,912 comments) says:

    A Maori lesbian will have their underwear in knots for weeks ‘expat’.

    The bile & brimstone from the Godaddled will engulf KB again. :)

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  13. David Garrett (6,785 comments) says:

    I have moved from not having any sympathy for Mr Gilmore to having considerable – or more correctly, to having considerable sympathy for those around him. It has obviously become clear to him – as it was to me from the beginning – that the media would simply never let this drop. No doubt the little ferrets have been busy over the weekend desparately trying to find more dirt on him. Unless Gilmore was a saint – and he clearly is not – they would eventually find something more to plaster across the newspapers – in my case it was a torrid tale of watching a video (‘Casablanca’, Warner Bros, 1942) at my house about six years before I entered parliament with a woman I met off a dating site. That was considered worth a 1/4 page of that great organ “The Herald on Sunday”. No doubt they had a similar story about Gilmour from some embittered ex girlfriend ready to run next week. At least the guy’s children can now go to school in peace.

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  14. Andrei (2,532 comments) says:

    What a laugh DPF goes on about National being “center right” when all it is is a revitalized Helen Clark, identity politics Labour Government possibly worse.

    Phtttttt

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  15. hmmokrightitis (1,572 comments) says:

    Poor wee Jack – taking it up the scone from the boss again tomorrow? Funny how the blind cannot see, you sad wee person.

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  17. Tom Jackson (2,529 comments) says:

    Does national have more gay MPs than Labour?

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  18. David Garrett (6,785 comments) says:

    Does that pq chap always write like that, or only after sundown?

    Randy: SUCH a brave boy…you presumably know better than I exactly what I was doing and why 30 years ago.

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  19. Tom Jackson (2,529 comments) says:

    National has at least two gay MPs now. By my count that makes a “gaggle”.

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  20. labrator (1,849 comments) says:

    Amazing the difference between someone who charged his porn to the government on a regular basis until caught and someone who is just a bit of a dick and talks too much crap.

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  21. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Tom, if you count two as a gaggle you are more numerically challenged than David Shearer.

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  22. Tauhei Notts (1,650 comments) says:

    Claudette Hauiti!
    I recall, some years ago, having to correct a new New Zealander who thought that a tangata whenua was a Maori lesbian.
    I’m sure that Claudette’s appointment will bring a wry smile to that bloke’s face. Next Friday night’s drinks with the man will be as hilarious as usual.

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  23. andyscrase (89 comments) says:

    Gilmore clearly has some “issues” as they say. A man with more emotional intelligence would not have got into this pickle, or would at least have got out of it a bit quicker

    I really don’t like the media blood frenzy over what is a relatively trivial issue.

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  24. David Garrett (6,785 comments) says:

    labrator: yes indeed…and with Mr Darren Hughes, who will be back on Labour’s list next time…and anyone who wants to bring up the “swiss ball affair” will be branded as “homophobic” or “muckraking”…Most unlikely the vermin will be camped outside his new bachelor pad looking for comment on said events in the recent past either…

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  25. Nostalgia-NZ (5,045 comments) says:

    ‘Gilmore clearly has some “issues” as they say. A man with more emotional intelligence would not have got into this pickle, or would at least have got out of it a bit quicker’

    Exactly.

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  26. transmogrifier (522 comments) says:

    He should have gone all in on the “it wasn’t me, it was the alcohol” line and got all those people wanting to bring back prohibition on his side, patting him on the head and saying “there, there, it wasn’t your fault, it was NZ’s drinking culture”.

    Or, conversely, he could have just sincerely apologized immediately and then got on with his life.

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  27. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    and someone who is just a bit of a dick and talks too much crap

    Labrator

    Being less than truthful to the boss was the downfall, no trust, no gig. Bullshitting the boss will loose you most jobs

    DG

    Employment law is your bag -do not tell lies to the boss – correct?

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  28. frankdb (150 comments) says:

    He was dead meat, how long he hung was the question.

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  29. David Garrett (6,785 comments) says:

    trans: There are a lot of things he could have done differently, and no doubt in the coming weeks and months – pointless as it is to do so – he will be constantly rolling everything that happened through his mind…but I actually don’t think it would have made a great deal of difference.

    PEB: No, that’s no fatal in a regular employment relationship…in politics, it is definitely the killer…unless of course you are Taito Philip Field…

    If you consider what happened to me, Darren Hughes, Jones, Horan, and now Gilmour, I think you can conclude the following:

    1. If you are from the right, no apology will ever be enough, no matter how long long ago the conduct was, whether it took place while or before one was an MP, and how trivial or serious it might be;

    2. If you are from the left – and especially if you are brown – then how long the Inquisition goes on, and whether you survive to fight another day, depends on how well you perform the mea culpas…although Horan’s case rather disproves my argument….

    I don’t know why they lost interest in him so quickly..he still maintains he did nothing wrong, doesn’t he? Be interesting to see how the jackals react when the next chapter in that sorry saga erupts…as it will soon..

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  30. labrator (1,849 comments) says:

    @pauleastbay If you look at his reasons for resigning it’s not because John Key said to. It’s because of the hounding his family and friends are getting. So yep, he was a dick to the PM too and I agree that’d be a reason give him a long walk of a short plank but that’s not what he’s claiming for his motivation. Resigning on a Sunday night kind of says you can’t bear to start another week of it where it is incessant media pressure.

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  31. big bruv (13,560 comments) says:

    Gilmore is a cock who has done the right thing.

    However, for his (and his families sake) I hope the stories about him making a couple of million (I wonder if Gilmore’s money is in an American bank account?) in the business world are true because the man is now unemployable in this country.

    Of course had he been a Labour MP then he would have been found an easy job with one of the scum unions or the like, the corrupt left always find a way of looking after their own.

    I also found DG’s comments re Darren Hughes interesting, I am sure that Hughes will be back high on the Labour list and I am equally sure that anybody who dares attack him will be pilloried by the left wing media. I would hope that this will not scare anybody away from reminding the public just what Hughes as done, sadly it seems that a young man running naked and scared down the main street in Haitaitai is acceptable to our media.

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  32. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    labrator

    he hasn’t been hounded seriously, he kept it going himself by not coming clean immediately and making a no story out of it. he obviously wasn’t that popular within the party either because no one said a single word in his defense.

    Reading about him and watching comments from people that actually know him I got the impression he is not the type of personality to worry about 20 year old journalists, in fact I got the impression he was liking it because prior nobody knew who he was .

    He could have closed this down straight away but he tried to be a clever bastard – but it was always going to backfire unless he was 100% honest about events , he wasn’t and he admitted he wasn’t electronically – ergo political death.

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  33. Jack5 (4,905 comments) says:

    hhmokrightis, expat, Pauleastbay, are fuming because the point was raised that Gilmore’s demise clears the path for a Maori lesbian to join Parliament as a National MP.

    Why are they so pissed off? Aren’t we supposed to notice Hauiti’s sexual orientation? Is the next step in gay rights to be making sexual orientation secret under the privacy laws?

    And why do gay posters throw their obscenities at heterosexuals who disagree with them and even imply it is their opponents who are gay?

    If they really support Hauiti, how about spelling out something in her favour: what she’s done, why she moved from Labour to National, and how Hauiti reconciles her film-production experience with National Party philosophy. (Hauiti’s best known film, Children of the Revolution , profiled the sons and daughters of activists.)

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  34. labrator (1,849 comments) says:

    he hasn’t been hounded seriously

    I skim the news daily and he’s been at the top or front of it regularly. Each time it’s something equally idiotic like “former tenant didn’t like him”, really stupid journalism.

    I’m not comparing how he responded, I’m comparing the actions and the outcomes.
    Taxpayer porn habit -> Front bench MP
    Talked shit while drunk -> Career over, unemployable in NZ.
    Run naked from senior MP’s house -> ?

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  35. David Garrett (6,785 comments) says:

    PEB: You are largely right…but I remain of the view that nothing he did would have been enough…the bastards smelled (blue) blood and nothing was going to stop them…I don’t know Gilmour, and never claimed to, but believe me, until you are the fox to the medias hounds you have no real idea what it is like…I tried to remind myself at the time of that great quote by an Aussie cricketer of the 50′s to the effect that pressure in cricket/politics is nothing to having “a messerschmidt up yer arse”…but when your bowels contract every time the “unknown number” signalling a journo calling pops up on the cellphone screen, and when, after it has been off a couple of hours you have 110 new messages…

    But when your son says “Dad, are the media coming tonight?” when you are hiding out at a rellies place that just does something to you… I can almost hear Braunias making his gypsy violin sounds as he reads this…

    ‘Course Darren didnt have to worry about any of that…he was “hiding” at Paul Henry’s beach pad, safe in the knowledge his mates didn’t want to know where he was…and he has no kids…

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  36. Tinshed (118 comments) says:

    Jeez guys, let’s have a “right-wing” pity party shall we? The guy was a tosser, plain and simple, and fortunately he was was found out. Nothing to do with anything else. And those like, our dear Aaron, who blame “the media”, well, cry me a river. Character is destiny.

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  37. Duxton (595 comments) says:

    labrator:

    Perved at schoolgirls in the shower -> protected from questioning by the Speaker

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  38. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    David Garrett- Keith Miller the Aussie Legend!

    From Wiki- “One night, following a duel with Messerschmitts in his Mosquito, he made an unauthorised detour over Bonn because it was Beethoven’s birthplace and he was a lover of the classics.”

    Also took 170 Test wickets and hit 7 Test centuries- What a life!

    Not a Swiss Ball in sight…

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  39. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Jack 5

    You brought up the sexuality – to me she’s just a nother unnecessary burden on the NZ taxpayer, we have 126 in Parliament.

    If she has moved from labour to national she has obviously grown up along the way. Sexuality has nothing to do with he job, why the fascination.

    Have you never worked with any homosexuals? I have and it was in a job at a time when homosexual activity was illegal, imagine being in your own house with someone you care about & you could technically have the police come and drag you off to the watchouse. Absolutely fucking staggering. The really stupid part was there was no offence for lesbians

    The first parliamentary attempt at decriminalisation was made in 1974, with National MP Venn Young’s Crimes Amendment Bill

    It took another 12 years.

    But back to my question what has her sexuality got to do with her being an MP, you bought oit up you must have an answer

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  40. big bruv (13,560 comments) says:

    “Keith Miller the Aussie Legend!” …..He sure as hell was, I was lucky enough to meet the man.

    Another thing that Miller should be applauded for was his total and utter dislike of Don Bradman as a person. While Bradman was a cricketing genius (and without doubt the most dominating sportsman of all time and across all codes) there is also no doubt that Bradman was a small minded and nasty little man who used his position to settle many scores.

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  41. Steve (North Shore) (4,524 comments) says:

    Why compare Gilmore to anyone else?
    He is full of himself, the bullshit has caught up and he has been called out, there has been mention of turning down $800,000 pa to become an MP. What about the SAS?
    HTFU Gilmore, some would like to see how you would go with the SAS in a country with conflict.
    Wimp that has run home to mummy on Mother’s Day, you own your own shit sunshine

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  42. Nostalgia-NZ (5,045 comments) says:

    ‘he hasn’t been hounded seriously, he kept it going himself by not coming clean immediately and making a no story out of it. he obviously wasn’t that popular within the party either because no one said a single word in his defense.’

    What surprises me a little is that there doesn’t seem to be a network of support, or a protocol of taking advice from the senior ranks (an advisor.) I’d think most people would have understood that this was going to unfold and therefore, the basic rule would be to speak the truth or shut up and advise that an official press conference would be called shortly, the former being the the most logical with the best chance of success. I guess politics in NZ hasn’t evolved that way yet, either that or it’s ‘selectively’ applied. I see many practical and basic comments here about not bull crapping the boss and therefore not leaving them likely to walk into one, it’s hardly unknown in business or in the wider world – but for some reason not applied to Gilmore’s situation earlier. The answer might be that Key and National are perfectly entitled to expect that common sense is a given among MPs and get on with leading a Government and strengthening the economy.

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  43. OneTrack (2,823 comments) says:

    There will be high-fives and drinks all round in the newsrooms tonight – yep, they got another one. And only 18 more months to go.

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  44. Jack5 (4,905 comments) says:

    Pauleastbay at 7.24 asks what does Hauiti’s sexuality have to do with her becoming an MP.

    I would argue it is relevant. NZ has just extended the concept of marriage to cover gay relationships, and there are continuing ramifications from this which may well require legislatitive tinkering. The margin between religious freedom and marriage definition is one.

    With a right wing religious party likely to contest the next election, and with the recent legislative amendments likely to be raked over, many people, morally rightly or wrongly but politically within their rights, at the next election will want to know the orientation of parties’ MPs. In a more trivial example, if there was going to be a vote over national fluoridation, wouldn’t it be relevant to know if an MP or candidate was a dentist, or had kids who might or might not benefit from fluoridation, or if the MP or candidate had false teeth, or was an anti or pro-fluoridation campaigner? Democracy requires free information flow.

    I would also argue that we have the right to know the biographical information of all MPs, including list ones, as the supporters of driving out Gilmore surely must concede.

    Sexual orientation, as well as things like gender, race, religion, political background, legal record is relevant to most voters, whether or not the gay community or liberals want this to be to be the position.

    I agree the historical persecution of homosexuals in New Zealand and elsewhere in the West was wrong, and the case of Turing was one of the most unjust and saddest. But why return homosexuality to the closet, albeit in a protective way?

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  46. big bruv (13,560 comments) says:

    Ever thought of taking your own advice Frankdb?

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  47. Jack5 (4,905 comments) says:

    Re frankdb (7.44): What, shot himself for one night’s leer up? You are bloody sick.

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  48. Mags (38 comments) says:

    As labrater and David Garret have indicated, it would be good to compare recent media ‘investigations’ and outcomes for various MP’s that have transgressed…the MSM in NZ has been so poor at balanced reporting and seem determined to undermine at every opportunity. It’s left to DPF and Whale to try to bring some light with limited resources and audience. Though I am noticing a distinct change in the wider community questioning media coverage, so we’ll see if the groundswell has starred.

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  49. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Jack 5

    Good comment

    And I agree about the openess but I don’t believe this chick has attempted to deny her homosexuality at all – but if you want to go that track will the Craig followers (some) want to be outed on just how fundalmentalist their beliefs are.

    I’d be happy if IQ test results were published for list MP’s, due diligence should have uncovered the fact that Gilmore could be a knob on the piss, just like it would have uncovered the fact that darren Hughes was predatory when pissed.

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  50. dime (9,668 comments) says:

    frankdb – meet your new friend 50 demerits

    personally id just ban you cause youre either a sad troll or a sad little man.

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  51. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    OneTrack (407) Says:

    May 12th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
    There will be high-fives and drinks all round in the newsrooms tonight – yep, they got another one. And only 18 more months to go.

    Thats the problem with MMP they are like bloody weeds, another one pops up – you should be able to ” spray and walk away”

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  52. David Garrett (6,785 comments) says:

    One track: You are absolutely right…I have it on good authority that a picture of me was on the “trophy wall” in TVNZ’s parliamentary office for some months after my departure…

    PEB: If “can be a knob on the piss” was the fatal flaw for politicians, the chamber would be virtually empty…on all sides…

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  53. Nostradamus (3,149 comments) says:

    David Garrett:

    How did you get on in the end with Frankdb (who says above that “[Gilmore] should have done the honourable thing and put a shotgun in his gob and blown his fucking brains out”) after his tough-talking the other night? Did the two of you meet?

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  54. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    “You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately… Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!”

    Good grief. Nothings changed since 1653! :)

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  55. wiseowl (832 comments) says:

    frankdb. you are certainly a bloody sick person.Piss off.

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  56. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    I never put the Winchesters on the courier Nostra! :)

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  57. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    To be fair on the media ( I know I know)

    But who hasn’t been publicised.?

    I can remember, Gilmore, Horan, DG, Dyson, Hobbs, Fitzsimmons (curtains or something) Tugger Jones , the National guy over the bottle of wine, Mark Peet ? pissed driving? .the only one that truly reeks of utter corruption was Field being protected by Clark.

    So they do go after the indiviual

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  58. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    The hemp curtains was the turning point PEB.

    Parliament has turned into a Punch and Judy sideshow/soap opera since they were drawn to our attention! :)

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  59. frankdb (150 comments) says:

    Whoa down people its the media and you arseholes that have been calling for his head on the block. I just said what you arseholes were saying. Fuck off.

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  60. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    It’s nice to converse with an intellectual giant such as yourself at KB frankdb! :)

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  61. David Garrett (6,785 comments) says:

    PEB: With the greatest of respect (as they say in the trade) I disagree…I believe some media studies course somewhere has a paper which compares the media coverage of me vs. Hughes…both within about two months of each other; one on the left, one on the right; … the paper looks at how much coverage; to what depth; areas of the lives delved into etc…I am very confident if someone did a PhD on all the cases you have listed, there would be a marked difference, and it would be seen as a left-right “cleavage” (as they used to say in Pols all those years ago) Field wouldn’t have had the coverage I got, and he got a six year prison sentence FFS!…But I was the right wing “outlier” among that bunch..now they have Gilmore as well…I would be most interested to read someone’s learned paper on it…

    Was that frankdb chap the one who wanted a rumble “anywhere in Auckland”, but suddenly was unable to read when I gave him my address? I had quite forgotten him…

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  63. Nukuleka (276 comments) says:

    Ms Hauiti claims that her membership of Grassroots Labour was something of an aberration- she only joined up for ‘research purposes’. Maybe she only joined up to the Lesbian lobby for ‘research purposes’ too. She’s clearly a flexible woman! You never know, she might jump ship from that aberration too.

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  64. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    “To” should have two “o”‘s frankie! :)

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  65. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    But with the greatest respect DG you were the gift that kept on giving there for a while – not one thing but two things- the nation was tranfixed and yes franky wanted to get it on anywhere anytime with anyone because he was the toughest of us computer jocks, still is by the sounds of it

    Dear oh dear franky do bugger off, I know Whale banned you and it wasn’t for your towering intellect it was because you are boring

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  66. Nostradamus (3,149 comments) says:

    Frankdb:

    And that Cameron Slaterbug is to [sic] much of a coward to kill himself

    I’m so envious – you must be the centre of attention at dinner parties.

    By the way, just so we know what kind of nutter we’re dealing with, is this you?

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  67. Michael (899 comments) says:

    Did Gilmore help or hinder National and the Government? He would continue to hinder for the next 18 months so his going is probably the best thing he should do.

    But the number of MPs that have gone have me thinking just who is going to be in Parliament next year?

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  68. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    Do you know frank’s hourly rate Nostra?

    I was thinking of getting a new gatepost and 250mm H5′s are awfully expensive these days! :)

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  69. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    “But the number of MPs that have gone have me thinking just who is going to be in Parliament next year?”

    AussieCommieGinga and ForgotMeAccount! :)

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  70. Yvette (2,745 comments) says:

    So has the next person on the List worked out if she is still a National Party member or not – didn’t seem to know when media asked her – promising?

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  71. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    I hope you are not a Lesbophobic Yvette. :)

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  72. David Garrett (6,785 comments) says:

    Johnboy: I wouldn’t hire him mate…if I have read the interweb entry thing right, he’s been a “member” for nine years, but he hasn’t actually completed any “projects” !! Funny how these brave chaps seem to proliferate after dark…

    Talking of brave chaps, where’s Red? He will be sorely disappointed in Gilmore…

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  73. Yvette (2,745 comments) says:

    No, Johnboy. National seem a little bit behind [sick] in that respect

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  74. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    frankdb (89) Says:
    May 12th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
    And that Cameron Slaterbug is to much of a coward to kill himself

    Care to show us how brave you are by contrast ?

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  75. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    I just thought if he was set in 900mm of concrete he wouldn’t annoy us so much David! :)

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  76. Nostradamus (3,149 comments) says:

    Johnboy:

    I think, before you get to the hourly rate, you should ascertain what “skills” he has – judging by that website, none! :)

    Some further details about Claudette Hauiti can be found here.

    A pocket dynamo and former Grassroots Labour supporter now determined to represent National, Ms Hauiti founded television and film production company Front of the Box Productions in 1993.

    Specialising in Maori, Pasifika and gay and lesbian programming, her company’s output has included hard-hitting documentaries about the female experience in gangs, and Qantas media award winning Children of the Revolution.

    What’s interesting is that, back in 2011 she said her past affiliations with Labour were “for research purposes rather than personal reasons”.

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  77. David Garrett (6,785 comments) says:

    Johnboy: Ah! you had him in line for a passive role then… the catamite to your gate as it were…Not actually required to DO anything,,,just stand there like a knob…

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  78. Nostalgia-NZ (5,045 comments) says:

    Yvette.

    On the face of it not promising. But of course now she employs her chance. The relative intellect and calmness of character is now observed for Hauiti. I look forward to her contribution.

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  79. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    It probably wouldn’t be wise in these litigious times to mention National Party members and behinds Yvette, unless of course you have photographic evidence of course! :)

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  80. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Front of the Box

    dear oh dear, I’m getting too infantile for myself even, bed time

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  81. Tom Jackson (2,529 comments) says:

    If the National Party keeps gaining homosexuals at this rate, they’ll soon be rivalling the premier British gay power organisation: the Conservative Party.

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  82. Nostalgia-NZ (5,045 comments) says:

    The sensible thing was to ‘pay’ Gilmore to leave in some way, that’s likely what happened.

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  83. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Nostradamus , having a womin with Ms Hauiti’s lefty credentials can only help National win votes. Especially since she jumped ship from Labour.

    Poor old Labour. Even lesbians with an axe to grind are abandoning them :)

    Welcome aboard Ms Hauiti.

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  84. Johnboy (15,586 comments) says:

    And if they get much browner they’ll have the biggest bunch of dicks in parliament outside of Jamaica TJ.

    Even after they’ve got shot of Gilmore!

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  85. RightNow (6,844 comments) says:

    Frankdb’s car?
    http://www.carjam.co.nz/photos/?user=frankdb

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  86. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Labour are arrogant elitists who assume that brown people and gays would automatically vote for them.

    To be fair, this sort of thinking exists on the [far] right too. Halfwits like Redbaiter think being gay is a political statement.

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  87. Nostalgia-NZ (5,045 comments) says:

    I’d say at the minimum an equivalent of his salary to the next election, and some opportunity before and after then. That would be pragmatic.

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  88. nasska (10,912 comments) says:

    Kea

    Did you ever watch “Lincoln Lover” on American Dad Series 3? It is a real piss take of a bigot’s presumption of the way a person would vote based on their sexual orientation.

    Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Lover

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  89. gump (1,553 comments) says:

    “After taking counsel from colleagues and family in recent days, I have decided that to stay on in Parliament would only serve to cause my loved ones more upset, and cause me undeserved further stress.”

    ————-

    Undeserved?

    Has he really learned nothing at all from this incident?

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  90. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    nasska, never heard of it before, but I read your link. I liked this : “Stan states in his speech, with much surprise to the convention, that they are not gay by choice, but nevertheless are Republicans by choice and that all Republicans should band together to direct their hatred from the gays to the Democrats, who choose to be that way.”

    Very well said.

    Speaking of poofters… I agree gump, re the “undeserved” comment from Gilmore.

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  91. Keeping Stock (10,181 comments) says:

    David Garrett said

    Does that pq chap always write like that, or only after sundown?

    pq says on his website (no names; no packdrill) that “I did not tell her I was an industrial grade alcoholic.
    My alcoholism turns me from a timid person into a belligerent lunatic.

    ‘Nuff said?

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  92. Viking2 (11,281 comments) says:

    DG, would you trust that fellow Andrew from Chch. ever to do business with.
    Gilmore might be a pratt but someone who shits on his team mates is unemployable IMHO.

    Nio doubt labour lite will give the arsewipe a safe seat next time round.

    Frankly its no wonder The National Socialists are so piss poor at everything. God awful chosers of their members.

    And before you all ramble on about how great they art, we now owe more money than ever before.

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  93. Dave Mann (1,190 comments) says:

    I had previously thought the guy was a fuckwit…. but his resignation statement reads well, with dignity and contrition and it is very moral of him to have resigned rather than wait to eventually be expelled from caucus and then hang on until the next election in no-mans-land drawing a salary and perks for doing absolutely nothing. Good on him for facing up to life and doing the right thing.

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  94. goldnkiwi (1,179 comments) says:

    Of course now the media has let his blood they will lose the scent, not. A higher standard indeed is expected of the unelected list MP, than of every other drinker out on the town, let alone pissed journalists, of which I am sure there are more than a few.

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  95. NK (1,138 comments) says:

    Reason number 1,456,392 why good people will never enter politics and so it generally will be full of dropkicks. Sure, Gilmour behaved like a dick, and when it broke he failed miserably in handling it. But to lose your MPs job out of this? Complete nonsense. I feel sorry for the guy, and yes, it does bring back awful memories of David Garrett’s appalling hounding and utter overkill. Yeah, good people will stay away, and we’ll get Mallards, Cosgroves, Fentons, Asenati whatshername, et al.

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  96. Pete George (23,345 comments) says:

    Dave Mann – yes, it’s easy to criticise him, and he’s given good reasons for doing that, but he has done the best thing here for himself, his family and the party in a reasonable manner (no point in quibbling over minor detail).

    It will be good to see the end of the media obsession and excesses.

    NK – I think the biggest pity is this media circus will keep more good people away form politics. Many will understandably not be prepared to expose themselves to the potential level of scrutiny – and especially pressure on family – that can go with the job.

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  97. David Garrett (6,785 comments) says:

    KS: If this clown has identified himself as an aggressive alky lunatic on his own website, why protect his identity?

    God, I am finding myself agreeing with Captain Sensible’s batman…must be time to go and read a book…

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  98. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    KS: If this clown has identified himself as an aggressive alky lunatic on his own website, why protect his identity?

    I checked out the site. I liked it :)

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  99. NK (1,138 comments) says:

    @PG – exactly what I thought I said!

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  100. adam2314 (377 comments) says:

    The question has to be asked..

    Gilmore is an up himself fuckwit…

    Who were the up themselves fuckwits that put him there ??

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  101. hamnidaV2 (247 comments) says:

    Gilmore Fucktard Tory Scum.

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  102. Nostradamus (3,149 comments) says:

    Andrea Vance has the Hamnida disease:

    Anger among the party faithful is justified. With his gob-smacking arrogance and lack of self-awareness Gilmore has made Prime Minister John Key appear weak.

    He has also undone all Key’s solid work in smashing the perception that Tory politicians are entitled and self-serving.

    Hmmm… “the perception that Tory politicians are entitled and self-serving”?

    Clearly she’s graduated from the school of impartial and balanced journalism.

    Edit: fuck me… speaking of Hamnida…

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  103. Psycho Milt (2,368 comments) says:

    I did not tell her I was an industrial grade alcoholic.

    Well, not except on the internet, but who ever looks there?

    Nah, he seems like a good bloke, and you don’t pass vet quals if you’re not up the top end of the IQ bell curve. No doubt he’s taking the piss – anyway, this bit:

    My alcoholism turns me from a timid person into a belligerent lunatic

    applies to at least half of us on Kiwiblog, doesn’t it?

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  104. RightNow (6,844 comments) says:

    Nostradamus, can you say Klaatu barada nikto

    Just want to see what happens.

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  105. wreck1080 (3,813 comments) says:

    He could have survived if he’d told the truth perhaps.

    I’m a believer in that everyone can make a mistake and simply deal with it in honesty and move on.

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  106. Pete George (23,345 comments) says:

    DG – I was initially critical of Gilmore and still think he was not well suited to being an MP, and think he is best gone. But the media excesses can be awful and unjustified – they should report but there is no justification for the levels of harassment that’s been evident over the last week, especially involving family, friends and possible acquaintances from the past. I thought the same in your case.

    A strong media is essential for a strong democracy, but we need a better way of holding the media to account. This needs to be something that can work rapidly. Writing to someone and waiting months for a Gilmore strength apology at best is pathetic.

    A virtually unchecked media is one of the biggest weaknesses in our democracy. They have potentially huge power, and know it. They can decide the future of politicians, they can decide the future of parties, they can sometimes decide elections.

    They need to hold each other to account, and social media should also play a part.

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  107. NK (1,138 comments) says:

    Pete, as soon as this story broke, you could just tell that Gower was looking back to the year 1354 to see what Gilmore’s great, great, great,great,great, grat, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, uncle had for dinner one night and what he might have said to his wife (or something similar). It’s vile. It’s despicable. And it’s just bloody wrong. Fuck Judging the Judges. Who’s judging these odious goons?

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  108. frankdb (150 comments) says:

    Yet PG you have no problem as Chief Mudraker when it suits

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  109. David Garrett (6,785 comments) says:

    Ah! the Great Threatener has returned..do you need my address again Frank, or wouldn’t that make any difference?

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  110. Steve Taylor (211 comments) says:

    Frankdb: While I am no fan of Cameron Slaters politics, methods, faith paradigm, or treatment of others, I don’t weld any of these to his humanity – his right to exist. Disagreement over the former does not have to mean the extinguishing of the latter – especially not over something as fundamental as a difference of opinion. Anger must never trump reason, in my humble opinion.

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  111. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    Only cowards fear jackals.

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  112. BlairM (2,307 comments) says:

    I don’t understand the hatred and vitriol over Aaron Gilmore. Sure, he lost the confidence of the PM, and that renders him largely ineffective as a National MP. But his offence was not against us. He hasn’t done anything really damaging, like Michael Cullen or Sue Bradford. He hasn’t even cost the taxpayer money, since we are always going to be paying for that number of MPs. I’d prefer him to sit out the rest of his term as NZ’s biggest dole bludger than have wets like Foster-Bell and Hauiti in there.

    I’m more upset by John Key’s lack of testicular fortitude in government than I will ever be by one narcissistic MP who can’t handle his liquor.

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  113. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    Who is Andrea Vance but a useless hack from an obscure rag?

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  114. Psycho Milt (2,368 comments) says:

    I don’t understand the hatred and vitriol over Aaron Gilmore.

    It’s straightforward enough – NZers really hate that kind of Tory-style born-to-rule arseholery. In this particular case, we don’t like:
    1. Rudeness to low-paid serving staff just doing their jobs.
    2. The question “Don’t you know who I am?”, the answer to which is always “No, I’m not a connoisseur of self-important blowhards.”
    3. Threats along the lines of “I know so-and-so and will get you fired.” This one displays a character that is weak, cowardly, malicious and conceited all at the same time.

    All the above is bad enough, but he ratcheted up the contempt by lying about it an in attempt to weasel out of admitting it, then was beautifully caught out in the lies. If National kept him on, the voting public was entitled to assume the party endorses the character traits mentioned above. Key won’t want that at any price.

    I’m interested in the concept that Gilmore’s failure here is just that he “couldn’t hold his liquor.” This isn’t the only place I’ve seen it But being drunk doesn’t make you a different person, it just lowers your inhibitions – what we got to see here was the real Aaron Gilmore. Is it the general feeling among right-wingers that the character traits he’s displayed here are typical of National Party members, but most manage to avoid displaying them?

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  115. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    “NZers really hate”

    Milt, don’t write your boilerplate leftist garbage here presuming to tell me what my own opinions are you disgusting commie dirtbag. Why are you always so completely devoid of respect?

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  116. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    Accept it, comrade Milt. You were born to serve. Tough luck. :-)

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  117. BlairM (2,307 comments) says:

    Milt – I don’t think anyone disputes that Aaron Gilmore is an arsehole. That is beyond doubt. He’s not even the only MP who is an arsehole. (I notice that Andrew Williams is still an MP, for example) But you (and everyone else who is so freaking mad at him) need to get over yourself. Stop being so offended on behalf of other people. The Left are always carping on about how people’s private lives are none of our business – well be consistent about it. Gilmore being an arsehole to a waiter has nothing to do with his work as a legislator. The only conceivable reason anyone should be mad at him is if you voted for the National List and you think his lying to the PM distracts from the work of the Government. But even then, it needs to be kept proportionate. He didn’t kill anyone. He didn’t even put up their taxes. Why waste emotional energy on him?

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  118. Daigotsu (451 comments) says:

    good points blair, but the thing is when gilmore threatened to get the pms office involved it really stopped being a private matter.

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  119. Pete George (23,345 comments) says:

    I’m interested in the concept that Gilmore’s failure here is just that he “couldn’t hold his liquor.”

    It was obviously more than that, unless he drinks on the job and drinks on tenant visits and drinks before TV interviews.

    In any case booze is not a reasonable excuse.

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  120. CHFR (220 comments) says:

    “Is it the general feeling among right-wingers that the character traits he’s displayed here are typical of National Party members, but most manage to avoid displaying them?”

    Milt you are on the wrong blog. Think that comment belongs at The Standard as I don’t think many of us thunk that at all.

    The born to rule I am afraid belongs on the left not the right.

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  121. Pete George (23,345 comments) says:

    The born to rule I am afraid belongs on the left not the right.

    Interesting point, but maybe not accurate.

    Perhaps some on the right think they are ‘born to rule’ but what is far more noticeable is a ‘deserve to rule’ attitude prevalent on the left.

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  122. Psycho Milt (2,368 comments) says:

    But you (and everyone else who is so freaking mad at him) need to get over yourself.

    Let me assure you I would have loved to see Aaron Gilmore stand up against the National Party’s fury and see out the rest of his term. I would have been thrilled. His resignation comes as a great disappointment to me, and no doubt every other left voter in NZ. I was just answering your question why people regard him as loathsome.

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  123. Mark (1,433 comments) says:

    Shooting the media in this is a bit rich. Gilmore’s only chance of surviving the restaurant stupidity was to admit he was pissed, that he acted like a cock and apologise profusely, as always it is the lying about what happened and in this case to the PM that was the fatal mistake. The media had him at that point and the whole sorry saga was of his own making. Unfortunately for National it has taken a bit of the gloss off what has been a pretty good week for the PM and National party heirachy.

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  124. RRM (9,667 comments) says:

    Was it the look-alikes picture of Gilmore and Fresco Jesus that finally nailed it?

    Farewell, Happy Gilmore. I shall remember you as… a pillock.

    A pillock who couldn’t handle his piss.

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