Is this why Labour attacked Mike Bush

May 16th, 2013 at 7:00 am by David Farrar

Truth reports:

ONE OF Auckland’s top cops has been boasting about having Deputy Commissioner sacked when his brother, Labour leader David Shearer, becomes Prime Minister.

Alan Shearer is the former Manurewa Area Police Commander and used to work under Bush during the years he spent as Counties Manukau district commander.

It is understood some bad blood exists between the pair after Bush removed him as Manurewa Area Commander into a new job at Counties Manukau where he is responsible for “planning and ending family violence” in South Auckland. …

A well-placed police source confirmed that Shearer had been “running his mouth off around town” about having Bush sacked once his brother David became Prime Minister.

“He’s been badmouthing Mike Bush. He is bitter and telling police officers in Counties Manukau that when his brother is Prime Minister he’s going to get Mike Bush,” the source told Truth.

“Alan Shearer is pissed off about being removed from his personal fiefdom in Manurewa and holds Bush responsible.”

Truth attempted to speak to Alan Shearer but he did not return calls.

I couldn’t work out why Labour would declare Mike Bush unsuitable to be Commissioner just on the basis of some ill-judged comments at a funeral. Is there a personal feud involved?

MPs are not responsible for their family members – but if the family member is boasting of using their relatives influence for their own purposes, they need to clearly state their family member is not speaking for them.

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71 Responses to “Is this why Labour attacked Mike Bush”

  1. Keeping Stock (10,299 comments) says:

    If that is the case, it is disgraceful that Labour has chosen to attack Mike Bush this way. Little wonder that it was Trevor Mallard launching the attack, instead of Labour’s Police spokesman Kris Fa’afoi; throwing shit around in the hope that some sticks to someone but himself is Mallard’s modus operandi, and it makes a mockery of David Shearer’s stated intention to move on from “gotcha” politics.

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  2. tas (623 comments) says:

    David Shearer is not responsible for his brother’s actions, but his brother’s boasting casts doubt on David Shearer’s motivations.

    However, Alan Shearer is responsible for his own actions and, if he has indeed been trying to use political influence for personal gain, then that is completely unacceptable.

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  3. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    MPs are not responsible for their family members – unless the family members are boasting of using their relatives influence for their own purposes.

    So you are suggesting that once a person becomes a member of parliament, they are therefore responsible for everything their family members do and say?

    There is plenty of reason to doubt Mike Bush’s suitability for the job based on certain aspects of his own performance (of which I am sure we will hear more) and especially because of his inappropriate but hugely significant comments at Hutton’s funeral.

    You are really digging deep on this one DPF – and I would suggest extreme caution regarding the idea that MP’s are responsible for their family’s comments (you just never know who may actually be posting right here on this blog who is ‘family’ of MP’s, even national :-) ) Such a belief could come back to bite you right on your cute toosh!

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  4. slightlyrighty (2,471 comments) says:

    “Do you know who my Brother is???”

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  5. hubbers (137 comments) says:

    Bugger slightlyrighty beat me to it!!

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  6. Dennis Horne (2,388 comments) says:

    When he loses, will Shearer say, “I don’t care, my brother’s a policeman.”

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  7. big bruv (13,725 comments) says:

    When Mallard raised this in the house on Tuesday I did wonder what it was all about. Now of course it is crystal clear.

    This is simply another example of the corrupt left in action.

    One other thing, has anybody else noticed that whenever Mallard asks a question in the house he always looks up toward the gallery as he sits back down, why the hell does he do that?

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  8. Yoza (1,815 comments) says:

    “This is simply another example of the corrupt left in action.”

    Mallard and Shearer ‘left’?

    That’ll be news to the actual left.

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  9. Dennis Horne (2,388 comments) says:

    … whenever Mallard asks a question in the house he always looks up toward the gallery as he sits back down, why the hell does he do that?
    Isn’t that sign language for Quack Quack?

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  10. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Crystal clear, or crystal gazing?

    Bush has done enough publicly to deserve the criticism

    Some of you need to spend a bit of time in the local copshop tearoom, and hear the talk (most of which is along similar lines) that goes around in there.

    If police were held to account for all such comments, there would be no time for actual policing. The very vast majority of them are full of bravado and quick to blame (within the ranks) any superior they think has prevented their promotion. Comments like this were VERY common among the Rickard family (who has a large presence in the Police force) when a certain member of the family disgraced himself and others felt they didn’t get the recognition they deserved because of that.

    I sometimes wonder what sort of sheltered lives you lot lead.

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  11. nasska (11,277 comments) says:

    Labour have elevated indirect nepotism to an art form.

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  12. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Dennis Horne (1,081) Says:
    May 16th, 2013 at 7:29 am
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    Yes he does, and so to did Norman Kirk.

    Perhaps he is aware of to whom he is really responsible – the ordinary people that sit in the gallery.

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  13. Harriet (4,857 comments) says:

    When Shearer becomes PM – I’m gonna become gay! :cool:

    Move along…nothing to see here other than Whaleoils beat-off…. I mean beat up! :cool:

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  14. Keeping Stock (10,299 comments) says:

    big bruv asks

    One other thing, has anybody else noticed that whenever Mallard asks a question in the house he always looks up toward the gallery as he sits back down, why the hell does he do that?

    He’s making sure that his tame press gallery journos are hanging off his every word :D

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  15. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Harriet (1,748) Says:
    May 16th, 2013 at 7:37 am
    When Shearer becomes PM – I’m gonna become gay!
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    Very wise decision – some genes just shouldn’t be shared.

    I much prefer the decision of those that say they will leave the country – hence I will buy shares in AirNZ if they sell it off (something I am in favour of) – I’m expecting there to be a very large exodus.

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  16. Akaroa (552 comments) says:

    Hmmm! Mornin’ all! Interesting kick-off to the day, and ol’ Judith prominent yet again I see.

    I know we’re all anonymous and all that, but I’ve been wondering who ‘Judith’ really is?

    She – (or is it really ‘he’?) – posts regularly like its going out of style. I ve been taking a particular interest in some – (Some? A lot!) – of her/his posts over the last few weeks.

    Fascinating stuff……. and say-no-more!!

    More please Judith!!

    (And, David, if speculating about the identity of a blogger somehow breaches the unwritten protocols of blogging – or this blog – then ‘mea culpa’, and by all means remove my contribution. No demerits though, if you don’t mind!!)

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  17. Kea (12,409 comments) says:

    I am surprised cops have time for this, given all the work they are putting into banning LEGAL highs and other social engineering projects.

    The NZ police are obviously over resourced and need massive cuts, the same as all other government departments, only bigger.

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  18. itstricky (1,800 comments) says:

    eww goody a post from The Truth. Purveyors of fine gossip such as ‘a purple stripped zebra from Pakistan stole my purse!’ since 1986. Classy blogster, classy.

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  19. alex (304 comments) says:

    Oh come one, this is in the Truth. Big handfuls upon handfuls of grains of salt needed.

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  20. Keeping Stock (10,299 comments) says:

    It’s hard to be surprised that Judith is critical of senior police staff, given the dozens of comments she left on various David Bain threads protesting his innocence…

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  21. itstricky (1,800 comments) says:

    Snap!

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  22. Dennis Horne (2,388 comments) says:

    Oh! Is “Judith” a person?

    I know her old man’s not a dustman!

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  23. Dennis Horne (2,388 comments) says:

    @Kea. Just when I thought you were intelligent after all – like me – you spoil it. By all means decriminalise cannabis. But for heaven’s sake, we can’t allow experimental synthetic chemicals to be sold as “safe” if they’re not. Come on, man, pull yourself … together.

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  24. wreck1080 (3,884 comments) says:

    “Don’t you know who I am” ?

    I’m the PM’s butcher/brother/hairdresser and I’m gonna get you sacked.

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  25. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Akaroa (271) Says:
    May 16th, 2013 at 7:49 am
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    Feel free to speculate all you like, ‘thumb me down’, or swear at me ;-)

    One doesn’t enter into blogging if they have a faint heart or are sensitive beyond the ‘power off’ switch – unless of course they do it with a faint heart and persistently agree with the majority.

    I could, of course blog elsewhere (and I might), where my views are greeted by a more agreeable crowd. But then what would be the purpose of that – unless one had a flagging ego that required lifting?

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  26. Redbaiter (8,551 comments) says:

    This is just third rate gossip that may or may not be true.

    Unsubstantiated smears like this are not honourable.

    It is leftists who normally do this kind of thing.

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  27. mikemikemikemike (324 comments) says:

    So DPF is quoting a Cam Slater ‘anonymous source’ not one week after the Gilmore debacle and we aren’t supposed to see it for what it really is?……….*Yawn*

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  28. Dennis Horne (2,388 comments) says:

    @Judith. Stay!

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  29. Kea (12,409 comments) says:

    Dennis Horne , I am opposed to both legal and illegal highs.

    This issue is that the police are there to enforce the laws made by our elected representatives. They are not there to act as a tax payer funded lobby group, or to make up laws as they see fit.

    The police have become a social engineering bunch of authoritarians. Their opinion carries no more weight than that of ditch diggers, carpenters and accountants, all of whom are generally better informed and are better judges of situations than police officers.

    I do not care what the police think of the laws they are employed to enforce and I care even less about their opinion on laws that do not exist.

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  30. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Dennis Horne (1,083) Says:
    May 16th, 2013 at 7:58 am
    Oh! Is “Judith” a person?

    I know her old man’s not a dustman!

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    Thank you Dennis, he will be pleased to hear that.

    No, I’m not a person, I’m a new kind of bot – designed to come on here and share the views of Shearer’s butcher’s neighbour’s aunty’s flatmate – who of course, Shearer is responsible for. Any complaints can be addressed to Whaleoil, he appears to have nothing intelligent to think about and needs another hobby that will reduce his addiction to troweling through other people’s septic tanks long enough that it results in him analysising his own shit.

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  31. itstricky (1,800 comments) says:

    ;-) Great return post Judith

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  32. itstricky (1,800 comments) says:

    Another good return salvo from Judith and a new found respect for Redbaiter. What an interesting thread…

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  33. Dennis Horne (2,388 comments) says:

    @Kea. I don’t think I have any illusions about the police: sometimes busybodies. But I think in this case they are seeing the consequences and I think they are acting to protect people.

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  34. scrubone (3,095 comments) says:

    Who cares. Bush went to the funeral of a bent cop, and spoke, and then praised him.

    That’s not one off-the-cuff mistake, that’s 3 premeditated ones. There should be no place for bent cops in our police, and certainly no place for those who defend them.

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  35. Dennis Horne (2,388 comments) says:

    @Judith. My comment about your old man not being a dustman is from the song, in answer to your retort yesterday: “What would I do with the old one [man]? Sorry, it was meant to be funny. Can’t win them all. Actually, I’ve far more time for dustman than “bankers”.

    Of course you are a person, Judith. No machine would be sucked in by a clever campaign to get a murderer off and paid.

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  36. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Dennis Horne (1,087) Says:
    May 16th, 2013 at 8:25 am
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    I knew you were joking and what you meant. ;-)

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  37. Manolo (13,580 comments) says:

    The despicable socialists do not foster cronyism, do they?

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  38. Duxton (642 comments) says:

    Well, well, well. A public servant threatens to use a family relationship to have someone sacked.

    The media need to show this issue as much attention as they did Gilmour. Bush needs to be forced into an immediate resignation, for all our safety, including that of his brother.

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  39. Dirty Rat (383 comments) says:

    Oh come on David..quoting a scummy little rag now, straight out of Russell Beaumonts school of “making shit up”…c’mon, your better than becoming a mouthpiece for that. Read the Beano, better indicator of the “Truth” than that

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  40. Duxton (642 comments) says:

    Incidentally, how does someone called ‘Bush’ end up having a brother called ‘Shearer’? That reminds me of an engagement notice I once read, announcing the betrothal of a Miss Shaver to a Mr Beaver :-)

    Apparently Mallard has a cousin called Mike Hunt.

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  41. Chuck Bird (4,847 comments) says:

    @Duxton

    I suggest you reread DPF’s post.

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  42. RRM (9,834 comments) says:

    FTP! :-P

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  43. RRM (9,834 comments) says:

    Chuck – I suggest you get a sense of humour. They are free, that’s why most people have one.

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  44. Harriet (4,857 comments) says:

    “…I do not care what the police think of the laws they are employed to enforce and I care even less about their opinion on laws that do not exist….’

    I agree.

    I think it was Luke Malpess over at the NZ Initutive who once said “….Laws are not made on the ‘likes and dislikes’ of police working conditions…..”

    He was refering to when rank and file police ‘complain loudly’ to the media about spending ‘all their time’ dealing with teenage drinking issues in public places, and then go on to suggest ‘this serious issue needs to be addressed’[code for law change]

    As Malpess then said "their issue is one of police management" {I presume he was referring to increasing police numbers on those shifts}

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  45. Duxton (642 comments) says:

    I just did.

    What we have is a couple of Shearers wanting to remove a Bush. Neither Shearer wants to be seen to be too close to Bush, so the older Shearer lets his mate, Mallard, look for a crack. If Mallard can find a crack, both Shearers can dive in after him.

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  46. Chuck Bird (4,847 comments) says:

    The issue is about Bush’s entirely inappropriate comments that bring the integrity of a police investigation into doubt. I have no use for Mallard. I think Anne Tolley does a reasonably good job. These are side issues as his Shearer’s brother.

    Bush should be asked some hard questions. He and the present Commissioner should offer Thomas and Ms Crew and unreserved apology.

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  47. Harriet (4,857 comments) says:

    “….I suggest you get a sense of humour. They are free, that’s why most people have one…”

    What’s your excuse again RRM………doctor say you’re terminaly miserable? :cool:

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  48. Dennis Horne (2,388 comments) says:

    I agree Bush’s comments at the funeral were unwise, but we are all deeply flawed. Perhaps he didn’t realise it really was public. It certainly illustrated how the Police think.

    But, I’m not sure I don’t prefer a police commissioner to be open and honest, not some “diplomat” who says what he thinks people should hear.

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  49. David Garrett (7,110 comments) says:

    Nothing in that story – even assuming it is all 100% accurate – changes the fact that Bush’s comments at Hutton’s funeral were outrageous.

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  50. Ricardo (54 comments) says:

    “Comments like this were VERY common among the Rickard family (who has a large presence in the Police force) when a certain member of the family disgraced himself and others felt they didn’t get the recognition they deserved because of that. ”

    I think you mean the RICKARDS family. Assistant Commissioner Viv Rickard is NOT a member of this family.

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  51. Alan Johnstone (1,087 comments) says:

    Unless it has a source, it’s crap.

    The implication that Alan Shearer spoke to his brother and then his brother instructed TM to attack him appears fanciful. You’re drawing a long bow with no facts to back it up.

    Frankly, it’s a smear on people with no facts to back it up.

    Shame.

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  52. Chuck Bird (4,847 comments) says:

    If a person wants to make themselves available available for certain public jobs either directly in politic like an MP or as a police officer or a judge they have got to accept to some degree they are on duty 24-7.

    The higher up they are the more it applies. A Cabinet Minister or a Judge is not free to tell certain jokes even in a relatively private setting.

    I really get pissed off at MPs and Judge who are happy to accept very high salary with plenty of perks and when they stuff up they or their supporters come out with the they are also human.

    Bush should not be considered for promotion especially considering his arrogant attitude post his comments. I would rather see Clint Rickards in the position. He was not convicted of anything as far as I know.

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  53. JC (949 comments) says:

    Well, the accusation is now out there and it becomes almost entirely a matter of how David Shearer handles it.

    I’m off to get the popcorn and coke..

    JC

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  54. David Garrett (7,110 comments) says:

    alan: If the story is “crap”, we can expect to see defamation proceedings filed by Mr Alan Bush very shortly. The allegations are certainly potentially highly defamatory of him.

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  55. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (876 comments) says:

    Non issue fellows. Move on please. Nothing sticks on David the King Hit Shearer.

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  56. Akaroa (552 comments) says:

    Just a couple of things.

    Firstly, to get it out of the way, the poster using the nom-de-plume ‘Judith’ posted at 8.03 a comment including the words ‘…..swear at me’ followed by a grinning smiley. I took that as an accusation that i swore at her/him in my post.

    Now, if I was a prima donna – which I aint BTW – i’d take exception to that remark, even with the smiley attached. I don’t swear at ladies – or at many men for that matter – particularly on a public forum such as this. (That’s assuming J is a lady of course.)

    OK. Now what was the other thing? Oh yes, those funeral comments that seem to have set off a lot of fluttering in the hen-house. People seem to have taken issue because some kind words were said by a certain senior cop about the deceased and there was no mention of his well known transgressions

    Well, pardon me for being an out-of-date old humbug, but I always thought that’s what you did at funerals: ie: Say the nicest things possible about the deceased – (loved animals and was kind to children, etc.,) – and, if he was a rat-bag, then just ignore it in the interests of maintaining the solemnity of the occasion. Failing that, make a joke or an oblique witty comment on his transgressions.

    No need for anyone to get up a head of indignant and righteous steam about what they imagine to have been deficiencies in a eulogy.

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  57. hannity (152 comments) says:

    Looking forward to more ‘according to whales’ world’ stories from DPF

    Its about time Kiwiblog got the recognition , it deserves.

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  58. Kleva Kiwi (289 comments) says:

    Kea (4,242) Says:
    May 16th, 2013 at 8:10 am
    Dennis Horne , I am opposed to both legal and illegal highs.

    Why? What is wrong with an individual choosing what him or her can and cannot smoke?

    Drinking is legal
    Smoking tobacco is legal

    Both cause considerably more harm than any ‘legal’ high ever has. The government should be going down the path of controlling distribution like cigarettes or alcohol.
    What right do you (or anyone) have to tell me what I can and cannot do to myself?

    Legal highs have been the target of media hyperbole.

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  59. Manolo (13,580 comments) says:

    @Akaroa, J is not a lady. It’s a bot remotely-controlled by David Bain. :D

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  60. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    A well-placed police source confirmed that Shearer had been “running his mouth off around town” about having Bush sacked once his brother David became Prime Minister.

    A rather vague comment which ignores the fact that Prime Ministers don’t have the power to appoint or sack CEOs….unless of course it’s the head of the GCSB and then – as John Key showed – the PM is allowed to appoint a mate.

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  61. Nigel Kearney (984 comments) says:

    I agree with Red at 8:08. A person who is not involved in politics themselves but happens to be related to an MP, should be able to do their job without the other side peddling anonymous hearsay accusations about them. Labour doing it in other cases does not make it right.

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  62. Chuck Bird (4,847 comments) says:

    “Mr Alan Bush”

    @DG

    Who is Alan Bush? The post was about police officer Alan Shearer, David Shearer’s brother. You are not the first to have got the names mixed up.

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  63. Kea (12,409 comments) says:

    Why? What is wrong with an individual choosing what him or her can and cannot smoke?

    Nothing.

    I am simply saying I do not like them personally. I have no desire to impose my view on others by force of law. I am not at all influenced by the hysterical nonsense put out by the police in the media. Think back to doomsday predictions of the cops about P. None of which have come true. They are idiots and should stick to police work not social engineering.

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  64. davidp (3,580 comments) says:

    So two “do you know who I am” stories in a couple of weeks.

    With the first one, Gilmore resigned and there was never even an iota of a chance that Key was going to take any revenge against the waiter.

    With the second one, Labour have used their influence in parliament and they’ve used it to press the government not to promote Bush. This improper influence is an order of magnitude worse than Gilmore’s sad puffery. At least two people need to resign here… Mallard and Officer Shearer. David Shearer needs to go too if he instructed Mallard to take Labour’s revenge on Bush.

    We still don’t know about how many million dollars David Shearer has in his secret foreign bank account which he maintains in case he and Norman fuck up the value of the NZ dollar. We still don’t know who in Labour decided not to report the secret donations from a rich property investor. We still don’t know why a teenage boy was running around Wellington naked at 3am. What chance do we have of finding out what David Shearer has been telling Mallard to do about Bush?

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  65. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,888 comments) says:

    davidp@ 11:07

    Spot On

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  66. Kimble (4,434 comments) says:

    Stupid Eli!

    You have to wait for Enoch to become Treasurer before you can brag about being the future Sheriff!!

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  67. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,888 comments) says:

    All the huffing and puffing from the supporters of the oleaginous Mallard ignores the reality that there has been not a word of rebuttal from the loud mouthed copper himself.

    You’d think if the story were not founded in fact, one might have heard the word ‘defamation’ by now.

    My guess is Mr Slater will have rock solid evidence of this sordid, tawdry episode.

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  68. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    there has been not a word of rebuttal from the loud mouthed copper himself.

    I know it’s a longshot but it’s a possibility that, like the vast majority of the population, the copper doesn’t buy Truth. Or, if he does, he takes what it publishes with a grain of salt. That might also explain why David Bain hasn’t sued Truth for calling him a liar.

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  69. Nostalgia-NZ (5,119 comments) says:

    So Bush made the comments because David Shearer’s brother (according to, well …no one) doesn’t like him, who would have thought?

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  70. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,888 comments) says:

    ros69

    You must try harder.

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  71. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Imagine bragging that David Shearer was your brother,-fuck me.

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