Labour on Denniston

May 29th, 2013 at 7:00 am by David Farrar

Letter

 

How curious. MP Damien O’Connor is writing to the Minister urging him to do whatever he can to get the mine approved, and to battle against Forest & Bird.

Yet Labour MP and environment spokesperson Maryan Street has said the coal should be left in the hole.

Typical Labour trying to be all things, for all people.

Can anyone from Labour answer the question. What is the official policy of the Labour Party of whether or not the Denniston mine should be approved?

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27 Responses to “Labour on Denniston”

  1. metcalph (1,428 comments) says:

    Shame on you, DPF, for using an ancient letter that Damian wrote er… 648 hours ago. Any fule kno that the lifetime of a labour spokespersons statement is only 168 hours.

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  2. Manolo (13,590 comments) says:

    The socialists have scored an own-goal. It will be fun to see the verbal gymnastics and spin trying to justify the contradiction.

    By the way, good on O’Connor for supporting the initiative.

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  3. Keeping Stock (10,301 comments) says:

    You’ve only got the half of it DPF. At Question Time yesterday Nick Smith absolutely skewered O’Connor who, as soon as Smith announced the decision to allow the mine to proceed, was part of a statement from Labour criticising the decision. And having in the letter above urged Smith not to allow Forest and Bird any appeals, O’Connor and Ruth Dyson’s joint statement accused Smith of having rode roughshod over process, and asked that F&B have more time to appeal.

    The good folk of the West Coast don’t like people who say one thing then do the opposite. I suggest that Damien O’Connor might be in big trouble at the ballot box next year.

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2013/05/oh-damien.html

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  4. Dennis Horne (2,388 comments) says:

    Here’s the thing. We don’t need productive work and jobs if we all vote “Labour”–see the irony–because we can all live on welfare. Geddit?

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  5. eszett (2,401 comments) says:

    Typical Labour trying to be all things, for all people.

    I am sure you said the same thing about National when Nikki Kaye voted against mining on Great Barrier.

    [DPF: She did not vote against. The Govt did a consultation on whether it should be allowed, and she said in her view it did not make sense on GBI. A stance, the Govt eventually agreed with]

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  6. flipper (3,991 comments) says:

    Looking at the broader picture, the green Labour red Melon political strategy is clearly a winner.

    Uhhhh… Why? How, you say.
    It allows the West Coast and other needy areas to improve employment opportunities.

    And take a look at the latest poll. Fairfax shows that the lack of wider public support for the red melons and labour has dropped again. With Fairfax pretty much confirming One News Colmar, the smart ass left wing pricks and prickesses at TV3 are left with broken red melon all over their collective face.

    Labour really are the most hypocritical pack of shits.

    And yes, well said Keeping. Nicky Smith gutted them like a fish.

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  7. Brian Harmer (686 comments) says:

    Whatever else you might say about O’Connor, he is a West Coaster first and foremost. He has been consistently pro-employment and this would not be the first time he has moved against the party line. I recall him doing it with forestry as well. I see it as a conscience vote on his part.

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  8. Keeping Stock (10,301 comments) says:

    @ Flipper – true, and he enjoyed every moment of it as well. Later in the day in his speech in the Budget debate, Smith claimed that Labour had “a Kama Sutra of positions over Denniston”; and he wouldn’t be wrong :D

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  9. Mark (1,481 comments) says:

    O’Çonnor has been consistent through the years in supporting employment opportunities on the coast. He is a more traditional Labour MP than the current academic socialists that have taken control of the party over the last 20 years.

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  10. kowtow (8,326 comments) says:

    Damien is to the right of Labour, He voted against the marriage parody so would fit in with the rump of what is left of the conservatives in National.

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  11. helmet (807 comments) says:

    Good on O’connor for looking out for his electorate.

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  12. Dennis Horne (2,388 comments) says:

    In Forrest and Bird terms, O’Connor is a sitting duck.

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  13. Keeping Stock (10,301 comments) says:

    Helmet said

    Good on O’connor for looking out for his electorate.

    Quite so Helmet; he really looked after his electorate; until the power-brokers in Labour told him that he had to toe the party line, and he meekly rolled over.

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  14. eszett (2,401 comments) says:

    [DPF: She did not vote against. The Govt did a consultation on whether it should be allowed, and she said in her view it did not make sense on GBI. A stance, the Govt eventually agreed with]

    Granted, but the point being, that it seems okay for a National MP has a contrary opinion to the rest of the party, but not for a Labour MP.

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  15. Keeping Stock (10,301 comments) says:

    @ eszett – the difference here is that Nikki Kaye was consistent in her opposition to mining. Damien O’Connor clearly supports the Denniston mine, but he has been made to fall in to line by the “gaggle of gays and self-serving unionists” he complained about before the 2011 election.

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  16. anonymouse (710 comments) says:

    Typical Labour trying to be all things, for all people

    Its even more bizarre than that,

    In this letter on the 6th Mr O’Connor says
    “I urge you to take whatever action you can to help Bathurst mining and the future of the westport community”

    But in Labour’s Press release on the 23rd after the decision by Nick Smith he says

    “Coasters deserve better from the Government than a quick-fix deal that might open the door to further legal challenge,” said Damien O’Connor.”

    What is it Mr O’Connor? Is this an action to help Bathhurst or a “quick-fix deal”?
    Hopefully someone in the MSM will actually ask him publicly what his position on this decision actually is

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  17. eszett (2,401 comments) says:

    Yes, KS, National has never forced it’s MPs to vote according to the party line. Never. They all did that out of conviction. Yeah, right.

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  18. David Garrett (7,112 comments) says:

    Keeping Stock, et al.; in “meekly rolling over” O’Connor did not more – or less – than Chester “all criminals need is love and Jesus” – Borrows…and he was in opposition at the time FFS!

    Having written “the Borrows amendment” on Sue Bradford’s anti smacking bill (You know, the one that has ended child bashing), and worked to get cross party support for his amendment, Borrows voted against it, because the Head Master told him to.

    Sadly, that is how the game is played in the big parties. Thankfully it’s a bit different in smaller parties….at least it was in ACT

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  19. WineOh (630 comments) says:

    Damien has my respect, he says it how it is, and won’t let the political talking points from the whips get in the way of honest debate. One of the few true breed that are genuinely out to make a positive difference regardless of the party politics. A shame he’s in the wrong political party, could do a world of good in the National party.

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  20. flipper (3,991 comments) says:

    WineOh …

    So which O’Connor statement represents his real view?

    1., O’Connor’s letter to Smith
    or
    2.. The joint statement with the silly left wing wino, Dyson?

    The Labour policy position is crap.
    Good.
    It will produce for them “ample” fruits (no pun intended), for their labour.

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  21. Harriet (4,857 comments) says:

    This misuse of schools to undermine one’s own society is not something confined to NZ or even to our own time.

    It is common in Western countries for educators, the media and the intelligentsia in general, to single out Western civilization for special condemnation for sins that have been common to the human race, in all parts of the world, for thousands of years.

    Meanwhile, all sorts of fictitious virtues are attributed to non-Western societies, and their worst crimes are often passed over in silence, or at least shrugged off by saying some such thing as “Who are we to judge?” “tolerance” “moral relativity”.

    Even in the face of mortal dangers, political correctness forbids us to use words like “terrorist” when the approved euphemism is “militant.” Milder terms such as “illegal immigrant” likewise cannot pass the political correctness test, so it must be replaced by another euphemism, “aslyum seeker” “refugee” “undocumented worker.”

    Some think that we must tiptoe around in our own country, lest some foreigners living here or visiting here be offended by the sight of a NZ flag or a Christmas tree in some institutions – but everything fucken everywhere being Maori is, well, just perfect!

    And then we have the urber liberal media, education, health depts who think that some young male children might be just that so much happier if they were sodomised at some point in the future! well fuck me….actually…no thanks!

    And that young girls, once educated about the ‘issues’ of sexuality will be all the better for the experiance, never mind that the end result is still more sexual diseases, teenage pregnancy/parenting problems, abortion, relationship problems, self esteem issues, and later Marriage problems. This has only ever resulted in there being more feminists, as these girls then ‘perceive’ themselves to be ‘victims’ of male behaviour.

    And John Key thinks that the next generation of ‘poor kids’ will have better ‘outcomes’ if breakfast is also provided! :cool:

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  22. Harriet (4,857 comments) says:

    Ignore that. I meant to post it in GD.

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  23. dime (9,869 comments) says:

    Annette King spinning that Nick Smith steamrolled the process and FOrrest & Bird were close to an agreement with the miners

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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  24. Oliver Twist (106 comments) says:

    @Charriet. More, please, Sir.

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  25. Keeping Stock (10,301 comments) says:

    Indeed Dime; that’s why there is an appeal hearing going on in Christchurch right at this very moment, as Forest and Bird challenges the Environment Court’s decision in favour of Bathurst Resources. Not even Annette King can spin her way out of that!

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  26. bhudson (4,738 comments) says:

    With O’Connor’s shift from 2 May, it would seem that he has given the folk of the West Cost his own version of “trickle down” economics

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  27. davidp (3,580 comments) says:

    This is going to be brilliant… Greens and most Labour MPs will be picketing O’Connor’s electorate office, accusing him of supporting big corporations over the interest of the environment. Then they’ll be beaten up by some West Coast blokes who want jobs.

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