SST readers on constitutional issues

May 5th, 2013 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

The SST did a survey of readers on constitutional issues. Not a scientific random sample, but some interesting results. They are:

  • 27% for a republic, 55% against
  • Preferred President – John Key 20%, Helen Clark 15%, Geoffrey Palmer 12% (really?), Willie Apiata 8%
  • Four year term – 56% yes 40% no
  • Maori seats – 26% yes, 70% no
  • Treaty in written constitution – 34% yes, 56% no
  • If capital moves – Auckland 39%, Nelson 17%, Invercargill 8%, Suva 3%
  • New national bird – Kea 36%. Kahu 24%, Pukeko 13%
  • Change NZ flag – 50% yes, 45% no
  • Change NZ anthem – 40% yes, 54% no
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25 Responses to “SST readers on constitutional issues”

  1. tvb (4,193 comments) says:

    Geoffrey Palmer for President. That self righteous git surely not. Suva for capital??? I question the makeup of the sample. Maybe an unusual number of Fijians found themselves in the sample.

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  2. UglyTruth (3,929 comments) says:

    A remedy for the constitutional problem isn’t effected by superficial surveys like this one. The problem goes to the heart of national identity, the conflict between common law and the fraud of parliament.

    Equality? A nation of slaves.

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  3. hamnidaV2 (247 comments) says:

    Sounds about as reliable as a Roy Morgan poll.

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  4. Whafe (652 comments) says:

    Like anything out of the SST, about as useful as tits on a bull

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  5. Redbaiter (7,522 comments) says:

    Since when did all of these issues become aligned to the Constitution?

    What are we writing here?

    Some kind of socialist la la land bedtime story?

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  6. Linda Reid (396 comments) says:

    If you are going to move the capital – Whangarei is the best choice – Northland is the most stable land in NZ – less likely to suffer a major earthquake. Of course, then I’d have to find somewhere else to live – maybe the newly vacant Wellingon.

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  7. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    New national bird – Kea 36%.

    Hell yes :)

    I have said this for years.

    Kiwis are pathetic drab things and who ever made them the national bird must have really hated the place. Kiwi can not fly and slink around in the bush after dark eating bugs. Hardly anyone has even seen one. Tragic silly looking things.

    Kea are bold, inquisitive and engaging. They don’t run and hide, they come down and check you out.

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  8. Alan Wilkinson (1,812 comments) says:

    These journalists are morons. What is the purpose of a constitution in a democracy? It is to protect the individual and minorities from the majority.

    Once you start from that principle you will get some sensible questions and answers. Otherwise you get crap like this.

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  9. Redbaiter (7,522 comments) says:

    “These journalists are morons.”

    Yes, typical half educated Fairfax prog trash.

    Wonder they didn’t include free beer and birth control pills.

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  10. UglyTruth (3,929 comments) says:

    What is the purpose of a constitution in a democracy? It is to protect the individual and minorities from the majority.

    The civil system is incapable of doing this because it is inherently predatory. Also, protection sometimes comes from unexpected sources.

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  11. Elaycee (4,286 comments) says:

    The minute some daft suggestions surface, you need to consider the source….. so when I spotted this was penned by the SST, it was consigned to the ‘garbage’ category before the first line had been completely read.

    If you want confirmation: Move the Capital to Invercargill – 8%. Move it to Suva – 3%.

    As if we don’t have enough problems already….. 8O

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  12. Chuck Bird (4,661 comments) says:

    I note they do not ask sensible questions like should we have 120+ MPs? Should we an Upper House again? What issues should be decided by a binding referendum?

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  13. Harriet (4,495 comments) says:

    Alan Wilkinson is correct.

    Groups; be they All Blacks, Catholics, or diary farmers, have no right to survive.

    And that is where Maori have hi-jacked government:

    Maori signage placed on government property, and other PC ideals being placed into government department laws, regulations, codes, and behaviours, is done so under the ideal of ‘recognition’ of the native land owners.

    Everything, everytime, and at every opportunity, Maori enforces government to accomodate them under this Treaty ‘ideal’.

    But by doing so, government are then giving those who ‘identify’ with being Maori the right to survival, which no other group gets.

    The Treaty does not acknowledge that Maori have the right to ‘survival’, nor do Maori believe it does, because as we know, Maori have never spoken that the Treaty dissallows the Maori race to breed with others. They have, and no full blooded Maori is left.

    Even when one says ‘but no real Maori is left, and so the arguement is invalid’ it is not invalid as being ‘Maori’ is about ‘identitifying with being Maori’ : great, great, great, great grandad was 1/4 Maori – so I am.

    This group has no more right to survival than anyone else.

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  14. Griff (6,699 comments) says:

    Should we an Upper House again
    dont on threat of death mention this or you will get an upper house
    full of tribal stonagers.

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  15. Silly Will Bunions (143 comments) says:

    Hey, hey, hey. Not a scientific survey, but all the brickbats are unnecessarily vitriolic. We now have a ballpark guide on some of those questions, that in some cases we didn’t have before. Thanks, SST. I got something enjoyable out of it, even if it unfashionable for commenters here to give credit where credit is due. Lighten up maybe on this one.

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  16. Viking2 (11,125 comments) says:

    Kea (3,974) Says:
    May 5th, 2013 at 9:48 am

    New national bird – Kea 36%.

    Hell yes :)

    I have said this for years.

    Kiwis are pathetic drab things and who ever made them the national bird must have really hated the place. Kiwi can not fly and slink around in the bush after dark eating bugs. Hardly anyone has even seen one. Tragic silly looking things.

    Kea are bold, inquisitive and engaging. They don’t run and hide, they come down and check you out
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    Yea but kea kiwi’s eat’s, roots’ and leaves.
    Oh yes that becuase of the DPB.
    I often wondered where the idea came from.

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  17. tas (589 comments) says:

    43.5% claim to know exactly what the principles of the treaty are? Please enlighten me. It seems like it’s just a treaty of annexation and guarantee of civil and property rights to me.

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  18. Viking2 (11,125 comments) says:

    Redbaiter (2,790) Says:
    May 5th, 2013 at 10:18 am

    “These journalists are morons.”

    Yes, typical half educated Fairfax prog trash.

    Wonder they didn’t include free beer and birth control pills.
    =====================

    Oh Reddy why would all those progressives that have just been allowed to get married want birth control pills. Beer YES but pills.
    Tell me you understand reproduction. :lol:

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  19. NK (1,060 comments) says:

    I note they do not ask sensible questions like should we have 120+ MPs? Should we an Upper House again? What issues should be decided by a binding referendum?

    Very true Chuck. But they do ask about the national bird; what our flag should be and what song should get us excited.

    Bloody hell the media is pathetic. As if those questions are really constitutional issues.

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  20. radvad (661 comments) says:

    Viking2
    “Eats, roots, SHOOTS and leaves”

    Get it right will ya. And yes, the kiwi male has been greatly liberated by the DPB and abortion at other peoples expense.

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  21. edhunter (491 comments) says:

    Should just probably keep my mouth shut but regardless of who has done the poll, I find myself agreeing with the majority on all but 2 of the questions and I couldn’t really give a stuff where a relocated capital should be.
    For the record I don’t want a republic, if we did JK would be fine for Pres, we should have a 4 yr term with no maori seats & the treaty has no place in a future NZ,I’ve yet to see a better flag & cringe at the thought of what a new national anthem would sound like

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  22. Colville (2,058 comments) says:

    What ed (insert up arrow here) said.

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  23. Chuck Bird (4,661 comments) says:

    “the treaty has no place in a future NZ”

    There is no problem with the treaty just the so called principles of the treaty.

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  24. OneTrack (2,564 comments) says:

    “What are we writing here?

    Some kind of socialist la la land bedtime story?”

    Yes.

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  25. UglyTruth (3,929 comments) says:

    43.5% claim to know exactly what the principles of the treaty are? Please enlighten me.

    There’s only one: defraud the naive and the incompetent through the use of ambiguous language and outright lies.

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