Winston declares war on China

May 24th, 2013 at 3:41 pm by David Farrar

Winston has proclaimed:

John Key and his ministers have made it clear that our future lies with the Peoples’ Republic of . …

The Government is talking of a million more people in Auckland soon and there is no prize for guessing where most of them will come from.

It’s the Yellow Peril!

But to this government it’s a great chance to bring in rich Chinese tourists through a half-baked – fast track, special treatment visa scheme.

Not available to you or any other nation.

Absolute lies. Scores of countries do not need any visa whatsoever. The only scheme in place for China is allowing airlines (including Air NZ) to use frequent flyer status as a proxy for a certified bank statement.

And when the so-called rich tourists have finished at the blackjack tables or the pokie machines there’s another attraction nearby.

If Winston is suddenly against gambling, why then as Minister of Racing did he double taxpayer support for racing – one of the most destructive forms of gambling.

The Hong Kong born Chow brothers are thoughtfully providing a fifteen storey brothel, in what used to be an historic building, just across the road from the casino in the heart of Auckland!

Those evil Chinese – also building brothels. There were none in Auckland of course before the Chinese got here.

One concerned citizen sent me a copy of that scurrilous magazine Truth.

It’s chocker with page after page of sex ads – most based in this fair city.

Is that what you voted for?

Whale Oil will be pleased Winston reads Truth. As far as I know Truth has had sex ads in it for 40 years or so. Blaming it on the Government or the Chinese is rather pathetic, but probably lapped up the a few dottery people.

Winstoncloud

 

This is a word cloud of Winston’s speech. To think he was once Foreign Minister!

Of course some Chinese immigrants are criminals, are involved in the sex trade etc etc. But Winston cherry picks a few horror stories to effectively demonise several hundred thousand New Zealanders. No mention of the fact Asian crime rates are far far less than other ethnicities. No mention of the fact their educational achievements are way higher than other groups. No mention of the fact they tend to have a lower unemployment rate etc.

It’s classic old Winston. Find a group and make them the scapegoat for everything wrong in society.

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64 Responses to “Winston declares war on China”

  1. Nick R (443 comments) says:

    Yep, same old Winston.

    Still, look on the bright side. I’m sure he’ll tone it down a bit if he goes into coalition with National in 2014.

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  2. Shazzadude (467 comments) says:

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  3. Sidey (230 comments) says:

    DPF seems pretty fired up given the last couple of posts!

    It must be pretty frustrating trying to hold back the flood of shite that flows from dolts who seek out a friendly microphone every time they have a brain fart. And we all know it will be dutifully “reported” with nary a question by some typewriter-basher. But the bit that really frightens me is how many seemingly normal people will read it and just assume it’s true. As we speak, many otherwise intelligent folk will stocking the air raid shelter with tinned food and cans of “extra strength peril-away.”

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  4. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    The Hong Kong born Chow brothers are thoughtfully providing a fifteen storey brothel, in what used to be an historic building, just across the road from the casino in the heart of Auckland!

    Dam those little yellow communist heathens bringing prostitution into our pure land …..and corrupting the most promiscous women in the world ;)

    Chinese will be opening businesses, studying hard and getting rich, long after Winston has moved on. He can be safely ignored.

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  5. Shazzadude (467 comments) says:

    No, you’re talking nonsense, because you’ve ignored my point, and have decided I said something else (nowhere did I mention proof of funds).

    Do New Zealand nationals who hold Gold status or higher with Air New Zealand or China Southern Airlines get the same equivalent relaxed visa requirements that Chinese nationals who hold Gold status with either Air New Zealand or China Southern Airlines get? If the answer is no, then Winston is correct.

    [DPF: You're being malicious or a moron. first of all that is not what Winston claimed. And secondly there is no relaxed visa requirement. the only change is the use of frequent flyer status instead of bank statement.

    As people flying into China do not have a requirement of a bank statement, there is nothing to alter.]

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  6. nark (13 comments) says:

    How about those older immigrants who come here and get NZ Super after 10 years and free healthcare. Can’t see how this is in NZs best interests

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  7. Michael (880 comments) says:

    Winston been reading the polls again, bit of Asian bashing and he’ll push back towards 5%.

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  8. sparky (235 comments) says:

    One rule for Winston Peters, and another for everyone else. He has always had the knife into the Chinese. He has been a bit quiet lately, so once again lets bash the Chinese. Talk about a hypocrite. I wouldn’t trust Winston Peters with a sick dog. He changes rules to suit himself.

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  9. nasska (9,526 comments) says:

    What IS strange is that he’s firing off his ammo this far out from an election.

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  10. Carlos (684 comments) says:

    @ nark

    You’re right and that’s exactly what my Chinese parents in law will do. I can’t quite fathom that they’re allowed to do it, but hey! New Zealand is overflowing with wealth and abundance. :)

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  11. Chuck Bird (4,412 comments) says:

    It may be Sir Winston after the election thanks to John Key’s disdain for the democratic process. ie. smacking and homosexual marriage and adoption.

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  12. hj (5,693 comments) says:

    John Key and his ministers have made it clear that our future lies with the Peoples’ Republic of China. …

    The Government is talking of a million more people in Auckland soon and there is no prize for guessing where most of them will come from.

    “it’s the Yellow Peril”
    ………..
    No it’s the Real Estate Peril

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/4622459/Government-policies-blamed-for-house-prices

    Demographia or Savings Working Group?

    Demographia or Savings Working Group?

    Demographia or Savings Working Group?

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  13. hj (5,693 comments) says:

    And Winston Does Have Ammo:

    John Carran, 2 April 1996
    “Vehement opposition to immigration, particularly from Asian countries, in New Zealand from an ill-informed and xenophobic rabble persists despite overwhelming evidence that immigration will improve our long term economic prospects.
    In 1988 The Institute of Policy Studies published detailed research by Jacques Poot, Ganesh Nana and Bryan Philpott on the effects of migration on the New Zealand economy. The research, which abstracted from the social and environmental impact of immigration, concluded that “…a significant migration inflow can be beneficial to the performance of the New Zealand economy and subsequent consumption and income levels.” The authors point out that this is in general agreement with Australian research on the economic consequences of immigration.
    -
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    Of course there is more to life than attaining economic excellence. The social and environmental impact of immigration also needs to be considered. But here the reasons given for restricting immigration range from pathetic to extremely dodgy. Most of the accusations are barely disguised racist piffle backed by tenuous rumours and cloudy anecdotes. Winston Peters’ stirring of the masses has exposed the ignorance and racial biases of a small and distasteful section of New Zealand society. These people yearn for a cloistered, inhibited, white (with a bit of brown at the edges) dominated utopia fondly envisaged by racists and xenophobes everywhere.

    http://www.gmi.co.nz/news/1021/opposition-to-immigration-why-let-the-arguments-get-in-the-way.aspx
    Savings Working Group
    January 2011
    “The big adverse gap in productivity between New Zealand and other countries opened up from the 1970s to the early 1990s. The policy choice that increased immigration – given the number of employers increasingly unable to pay First-World wages to the existing population and all the capital requirements that increasing populations involve – looks likely to have worked almost directly against the adjustment New Zealand needed to make and it might have been better off with a lower rate of net immigration. This adjustment would have involved a lower real interest rate (and cost of capital) and a lower real exchange rate, meaning a more favourable environment for raising the low level of productive capital per worker and labour productivity. The low level of capital per worker is a striking symptom of New Zealand’s economic challenge.

    http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/reviews-consultation/savingsworkinggroup/pdfs/swg-report-jan11.pdf

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  14. hj (5,693 comments) says:

    Many Chinese want to escape “the intensity of the urban population”. In many cities there is a lack of personal space and the presence of smog, making a trip to New Zealand feel like an out-of-this-world experience.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/8602673/Building-the-Chinese-connection

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  15. Longknives (4,048 comments) says:

    ” did he double taxpayer support for racing – one of the most destructive forms of gambling.”

    What a small-minded and poorly thought out comment- Racing is an industry that employs thousands in New Zealand and is a major export industry.
    I’d expect the Gweens (who have stated they want it banned) to spout off against Horse Racing but ‘Et tu David’?
    C’mon -You are better than that…

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  16. s.russell (1,486 comments) says:

    Winston attacks the Chinese! This is exciting (yawn), very exci (yawn) ting newzzzzz. Zzzzz. Zzzzzzz.

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  17. hj (5,693 comments) says:

    As for useless Labour: so far the left have suffocated population/environmental/quality of life issues

    http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2013/04/how-i-am-partly-to-blame-for-mass-immigration.html

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  18. hj (5,693 comments) says:

    “Among policy and analytical circles in New Zealand there is a pretty high degree of enthusiasm for high levels of immigration. Some of that stems from the insights of literature on increasing returns to scale. Whatever the general global story, the actual productivity track record here in the wake of very strong inward migration is poor. In an Australian context, the Productivity Commission – hardly a hot-bed of xenophobia or populism – concluded that any benefits from migration to Australia were captured by migrants and there were few or no discernible economic benefits to Australians. And that was in a country already rich and successful and with materially higher national saving and domestic investment rates than those in NZ.”
    http://www.treasury.govt.nz/downloads/pdfs/mi-jarrett-comm.pdf

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  19. Fletch (5,723 comments) says:

    I still don’t think it wise that NZ is aligning itself so closely with a Communist country, especially one where human rights abuses are committed by those in power. For example – a Chinese man was beaten nearly to death by family planning offcials because he had three children, and is allowed only one. When did this happen? In the 50s? In the 70s? No. Several days ago.

    A farmer in Jiangsu province was set upon on Wednesday by more than 20 family planning officials who beat him to near death because he and his wife have three children, violating China’s strict one-child policy.

    Zhang Futao, of Group Five, Nangou Village, in the town of Beigou, in Xinyi city, is now hospitalized in critical condition and fighting for his life after suffering severe head injuries from the beating by the family planning officials who burst into his home at about 8 p.m. on Wednesday (May 15). They then kidnapped Zhang to Tashan Brigade and made his family pay a ransom.

    The family immediately took him to the emergency room of the Linyi city People’s Hospital, where he was found to have a fractured skull and a brain hemorrhage. He had lost 100 milliliters (100 cc) of blood and might have died in an hour if his family had not brought him to the hospital.

    Is this OK with John Key?
    As I’ve said before, John Key’s background is in finance. He was very good at it and this is the window he looks at the world through – economics. I’m worried though that he doesn’t look at the world (or other countries) through any other facet. he doesn’t exercise caution when it comes to the ideologies of nations he is dealing with. You need more than being good with money to be a successful leader of a country.

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  20. dubya (200 comments) says:

    If racing is such a wonderful, productive industry, why does it need taxpayer support? Horsey types are as strange as greenies and I’ve no desire to bankroll the fantasies of either.

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  21. RRM (8,988 comments) says:

    See also: Deborah Codpiece’s C.2006 work of fantasy about a “rising asian crime tide”… Maybe Winston’s policy is based on that?

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  22. Tauhei Notts (1,510 comments) says:

    “Horse Racing”
    One of the most destructive forms of gambling.
    What sort of hallucinatory substance is the writer of that comment on?
    It is usual, in a plea of mitigation, to blame the horses for the loss of the defalcated funds. I recall one local whom nobody had ever seen on a racecourse, and who did not even have a TAB telephone account; the plea prior to sentence was that the horses had got it all. DPF, fraternising with all your queer frinds is playing havoc with your mind.

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  23. KiwiGreg (3,129 comments) says:

    @ Fletch sorry your article sounds like crap to me. 100ml of blood life threatening? Really? The one child policy was never as represented, didnt applpy to minorities, you could just pay for the 2nd kids health and education. Basically I’m calling bullshit.

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  24. Harriet (4,010 comments) says:

    “….Winston declares war on China….”

    …….while the Left declares war on NZ, Mothers, Marriage, the West, Un born baby humans, the US, Wealth creation, Capitalism, Family, Christianity, the Monarch, Conservatism, Children’s parents, Democracy, the Near dead aged, the Wealthy self reliant aged …….

    We’ll there really wasn’t too much left for him to choose from !

    add energy to that too…and the police, law, prisons, defence….. :cool:

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  25. cha (3,537 comments) says:

    …….while the Left declares war on NZ..

    ..wha….wha..

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  26. RF (1,129 comments) says:

    Lay off the turps Winstone as its clearly knocking out some of your brain cells. Its a sad sight when he is speaking in the house. He just rambles on and does not make sense. Poor old chap.. time to put him out to pasture.

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  27. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    Winston is just a piece of shit. He had no trouble turning up at Pasifika pissing in pockets flat out. If there was vote on a boat of indonesian refugees the fucking midget would swim out to it.

    And for all those dumb, scared and ignorant indiividuals that vote for the tosser – you can all fuck off to.

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  28. Longknives (4,048 comments) says:

    Not a fan then Pauleastbay?

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  29. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    Not quite Longknives, probably the most destructive influence on New Zealand politics in the last thirty years.

    And even realising you are horse man – one swallow does not a summer etc etc……….

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  30. Slipster (14 comments) says:

    @nark: Older immigrants can’t get here under their own steam so to say (apart from a few, very few exception who won’t need our super anyway). It’s either refugies or Family Reunion. Note Carlos’s example about his parents in law.

    There is absolutely nothing we can do about that. Well, short of tearing up all the numerous international treaties we’ve signed over the years and becoming international pariah state. Family Reunion rights are guaranteed by Human Rights Convention (Helsinki) and numerous additional protocols and agreements we are a party to. In short, I don’t see what we can do about it. And that’s regardless of what govt we happen to have btw… unless Winston gets his way :-)

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  31. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    probably the most destructive influence on New Zealand politics in the last thirty years.

    Firstly I do not think his influence is that great.

    Secondly, any influence he does have his only proportional to the support he has.

    And for all those dumb, scared and ignorant indiividuals that vote for the tosser – you can all fuck off to.

    That is no way to talk about our senior citizens Pauleastbay ;)

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  32. Griff (6,263 comments) says:

    Harry it
    you terminaly confused conservative trans sexual banana bender
    The right does not only contain god struck religious homophobic bigots
    if you think it should go to true blue
    if you run its good you will not be in our face.

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  33. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    proportional…..

    there is the problem, he should have no influence but we have this system that enables this clown to have influence…. its fucked on a grand scale.

    mention the yellow peril and some silly old bastard in Dipton thinks he’s going to get 45,000 hard working, the best service giving, got a few quid chinese turn up in his town and forgets what a prick peters is

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  34. mikemikemikemike (239 comments) says:

    [DPF: You are talking nonsense. NZers can enter China without needing any proof of funds at all.

    Winston is wrong, and you are confused or worse]

    How many people do you think are trying to sneak into China to take advantage of the welfare and taxpayer funded entitlements/subsidies DPF??….Of course, this is not just asians but the point is sound regardless.

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  35. mikemikemikemike (239 comments) says:

    Also it is true, Visa’s are being relaxed for rich people there are not too many poor folk who would have enough regular flyer miles to afford such special dispensation.

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  36. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (523 comments) says:

    Well he will be the Foreign Minister in Sheep Shearer’s 2014 government. So get used to his mad rantings fellows.

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  37. Kea (10,451 comments) says:

    New Zealand First leader Winston Peters has told a North Shore Grey Power meeting this afternoon that he has learned how to cook “that Chinese rubbish, or whatever it is these kids like to eat,” thus removing any possible need for Chinese immigrants to enter the New Zealand economy.

    Peters added that he was considering starting a prostitution ring “so no one needs the Chinese to do that, either.”

    http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/winston-peters-learns-to-cook-chinese-food-insists-no-more-need-for-immigrants/

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  38. Bob R (1,250 comments) says:

    ***There is absolutely nothing we can do about that. Well, short of tearing up all the numerous international treaties we’ve signed over the years and becoming international pariah state.***

    @ Slipster,

    Doesn’t seem to bother Israel which enjoys strong US support. Similarly, I don’t think Japan is too bothered about accepting people unless they will clearly benefit the Japanese. Why don’t we take a leaf out of their book? NZ shouldn’t accept anyone unless they’re likely to bring useful skills & are culturally compatible.

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  39. mikemikemikemike (239 comments) says:

    Also I do wonder – what about a case where a (say) north korean has enough frequent flyer miles to satisfy the ‘express visa’ requirements on China air….or did I miss something?

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  40. Manolo (12,626 comments) says:

    You ought to have a frontal lobotomy, advanced Alzheimer or dementia to believe a word of what the venal Peters say.

    Even so, sections of the blue rinse brigade believe this ancient snake oil salesman is the solution to NZ problems. Good luck to these morons.

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  41. David Garrett (5,134 comments) says:

    Manolo: one of the scariest things I ever heard about NZ politics was from Bob Clarkson, Peters’ replacement as MP for Tauranga. As Clarkson told it – so it’s second hand – the Nats did some poll, the result of which was that a good majority (like 60%) of NZF voters would continue to support the Great Charlatan even if there was conclusive evidence he had abused a child…if that’s true, it’s bloody scary…and reminds me of Churchill’s line about the best argument against democracy being a 15 minute conversation with the average voter….and we think the Greens’ and their supporters are scary….

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  42. Manolo (12,626 comments) says:

    Yes, D.G., I can only weep at the shallowness of these imbeciles.

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  43. dime (8,752 comments) says:

    “The Hong Kong born Chow brothers are thoughtfully providing a fifteen storey brothel, in what used to be an historic building, just across the road from the casino in the heart of Auckland!”

    god bless them!!!

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  44. David Garrett (5,134 comments) says:

    dime: According to “sources”, it is also somewhat hypocritical of the Great Charlatan to sound off about that particular now-legal leisure pursuit…

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  45. hj (5,693 comments) says:

    Manolo (9,946) Says:
    May 24th, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    Yes, D.G., I can only weep at the shallowness of these imbeciles.
    …………….
    Government policies blamed for house prices

    Immigration and tax breaks for investment in residential property are being cited as the underlying causes of steep increases in the cost of housing over the past decade.
    New Zealand now boasts one of the highest rates of home unaffordability in the world as a result of prices rising far faster than incomes, and the government’s Savings Working Group blames that squarely on the policies of successive governments.

    Although “the favourable tax treatment of property investment” accounted for about 50% of house price increases between 2001 and 2007, the working group said, there was also strong evidence that rapid swings in immigration brought about price-rise “shocks”.
    There was a sharp spike in immigration in 2001, 2002 and 2003 and, said working group committee member Dr Andrew Coleman, it appeared that property prices did not fall anywhere near as greatly when immigration fell again.
    The report added that there was little evidence that immigration boosted local incomes. In fact, the need to build roads and schools meant that net migration contributed to the national deficit.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/4622459/Government-policies-blamed-for-house-prices

    The Radio NZ News team didn’t think that merited a mention.

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  46. hj (5,693 comments) says:

    Kea (4,563) Says:
    May 24th, 2013 at 6:25 pm

    New Zealand First leader Winston Peters has told a North Shore Grey Power meeting this afternoon that he has learned how to cook “that Chinese rubbish, or whatever it is these kids like to eat,” thus removing any possible need for Chinese immigrants to enter the New Zealand economy.

    Peters added that he was considering starting a prostitution ring “so no one needs the Chinese to do that, either.”

    http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/winston-peters-learns-to-cook-chinese-food-insists-no-more-need-for-immigrants/
    ………………………….
    Funny TV 3 missed that doozy. He seems to be being very diplomatic.

    http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/winston-peters-warns-corruption-china-5447267

    Oh it’s satirical! Thank god you rent seekers are having to stoop to what you do best: bullshit.

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  47. hj (5,693 comments) says:

    CORIN Russel, what would you do on housing? We know obviously a lot about Labour’s Kiwi Build policy to build houses. What do you propose in order to solve our housing problem?

    RUSSEL Well, you’ve got to look at both demand side and the supply side. So, we’ve got demand side issues around investment properties and the tax incentive. So capital gains tax, excluding the family home, is part of changing the tax signal, as well as also looking at the losses and how those losses are accounted for around investment property. You’ve also got to take into account the overseas demand. There’s different reports about the size of it, but the Hong Kong government, for example, has introduced measures to try and constrain the overseas demand. So that’s important as well.

    CORIN I’ll just stop you there. So that is actually restricting foreign owners buying NZ houses, something I think Tony Alexander, BNZ economist, has mooted, hasn’t he?

    RUSSEL Um, yeah. I mean, it might be restricting. What Hong Kong did is they put a 15 per cent surcharge, effectively, on non-residents buying property to try to basically turn down the tap a little bit to take some of the heat out of it. And then on the supply side – I mean, we support the supply side measures that Labour’s talking about. Probably what we would say is it needs to be medium density. I think Bill English is wrong when he says that medium-density, high quality housing is more expensive than urban sprawl. Urban sprawl is very expensive in the long term because you’ve got to pay for all the infrastructure to get out there and then all the energy costs when everyone’s got to drive across town when, you know, you’re paying 2 bucks a litre for petrol. So you’ve got to look at the long-term costs around that. But the most important thing, actually, is to look at the tradable sector. What are we doing for the primary sector in terms of owning more of the value chain into China, for example? What are we doing in terms of manufacturing, in government procurement? What are we doing to develop the ICT sector, such as a second cable that would really help our ICT sector get away?

    http://tvnz.co.nz/q-and-a-news/david-parker-russel-norman-interview-5441876

    in labour: [chuckles]
    (CHUCKLES) We consider all good ideas. We have actually said we should restrict overseas ownership of farmland, because we don’t want to drive the price high there. One of the problems is NZ is we’ve actually got very poor data as to how much foreign ownership there is of residential land, because it’s not gathered by anyone. That’s where you need to start, is gathering that data and see how big a problem it is.
    ……..
    Looks like Labour is more likely to go into coalition with national Real Estate as they have more in common.

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  48. Warren Murray (238 comments) says:

    Fear gets votes almost as sure as promises of a better future.

    Sadly, Winston First is National’s best coalition hope in 2014.

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  49. duggledog (1,113 comments) says:

    The Chinese don’t fit in here.

    They are extremely hard working, thrifty, don’t make a fuss, are generally law abiding, believe in personal responsibility, respect for their elders and education.

    Ha ha! See what I did there?

    Hopefully enough of them come to form a critical mass and tip the balance. Then we can finally pull out of our crazy socialist death-spiral

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  50. Johnboy (13,407 comments) says:

    “Find a group and make them the scapegoat for everything wrong in society.”

    I always knew them Helengrad bitches were never quite as bad as some folks said! :)

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  51. Keeping Stock (9,789 comments) says:

    The Civilian has nailed it. There’s no point getting upset at Winston Peters’ xenophobia and economy with the truth any more. It’s far easier to simply laugh at the bloke, and treat him as a figure of fun, because that’s all he is now.

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  52. mikemikemikemike (239 comments) says:

    ‘They are extremely hard working, thrifty, don’t make a fuss, are generally law abiding, believe in personal responsibility, respect for their elders and education.’

    I call bullshit – a huge portion of the ones I know (and I’m married to one) scam the welfare system while ‘working hard’ in takeaways or other cash businesses, hiding cash sales to scam the tax dept. Heck, I dobbed my father-in-law in who had been a sickness bene for 8 years (a trip to otahuhu secured the required paperwork) not that that did anything.

    They are a people who have been conditioned to be opportunistic and to take advantage where they see one because they are so used to be fucked over in their own countries by their own people/government

    Duggledog, be careful what you wish for…..because it might just happen one day.

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  53. duggledog (1,113 comments) says:

    Mike – that’s just not my experience. I don’t disbelieve your experience though.

    I wouldn’t know the private affairs and tax shenanigans of the Chinese people I know, but what I can guarantee is they are not a net drain on the taxpayer like so many immigrants from other countries that somehow seem to get in here. And quite a lot of the locals.

    I don’t see them in prisons, or getting knocked up with children they can’t afford who then go on to a life of crime. They may fiddle their books a bit, but that problem ought to be easy enough to fix with our civil service if they are doing their jobs. I don’t see many Chinese idling their lives away at the beach smoking pot that’s all.

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  54. davidp (3,320 comments) says:

    If Peters really wanted to win the anti-Chinese vote then he’d lunge at a Chinese politician bleating “give me back my flag”. Until then he’s all words and no action.

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  55. Jim (385 comments) says:

    m.m.m.Mike’s assessment certainly applies to a significant percentage. To pick a euphemism: ‘opportunistic’. That’s not inconsistent with hard working and thrifty though.

    Nevertheless the visa criteria relaxation for frequent fliers makes sense. In some ways it is a better proxy for determining the likelihood of onward travel than a bank statement.

    If you can fake a bank balance then you can fake a frequent flyer status so no change there for the opportunistic ones.

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  56. iMP (2,153 comments) says:

    where would we be without Chinese takeaways?

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  57. Jim (385 comments) says:

    right where we are now, a few kilos lighter.

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  58. Engineer (63 comments) says:

    I call bullshit – a huge portion of the ones I know (and I’m married to one) scam the welfare system while ‘working hard’ in takeaways or other cash businesses, hiding cash sales to scam the tax dept.

    ‘Cash’ sales —-how many of those are made nowadays? Most transactions are done by Eftpos.

    ‘Huge’ proportion? I doubt it. All the stats show that the ethnic group that is the least on social welfare are the Chinese. That’s even with significant discrimination against them in the job market.

    Chinese have the lowest crime rates of any ethnic group in NZ (about a third to a quarter that of the ‘white’ rate —this is seen not just in NZ but all around the Western world where Chinese have settled). When was the last time you heard of a Chinese rapist, or Chinese child abuse, or a Chinese pedophile in NZ? They also tend to under-utilise the health care system, partly because they tend to be more healthy than the general population (16% obese compared to say 26% for Europeans).

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  59. smttc (638 comments) says:

    Chinese like to gamble. It is to be encouraged if it brings in foreign currency and they then return home.

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  60. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    smttc
    Many are problem gamblers. Like others in NZ , they loose houses and businesses thru gambling.
    Try trading with any Indian or Chinese dairy owners..they all insist on cash and none of them pay GST even tho those dealing with them have to pay GST.
    As for no Chinese in prison. This isn’t correct. There were Chinese in NZ prisons as far back as the 70s and 80s.
    I agree with others who say they are opportunistic. The rort of elderly people coming here to get the pension is a rort few other countries would put up with..Every now and then someone screeches about raising the age of pension entitlement but this rort should be dealt to first.

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  61. KapitiCoast (103 comments) says:

    Unfortunately my mother voted for NZF, winnie really…I asked her why?…”He gave us (OAP’s) the Gold card”, I reminded her about his lies and deceit, like water off a ducks back unfortunately as she uses the Gold Card a lot and asked me what other party would have allowed her to travel on public transport for free…..I had no answer as none of them did/would!, she also said she thinks if the left bloc gets in (with NZF as coallition partners), he would make sure Gold card members get an extra 10-20% off their power bills if the Govt owns the electricity. THIS is why they vote for him, not him as a person but because he ‘looks after the pensioners’. This is why the welfare bludgers always vote Labour/Greens as they know the benefits won’t stop…forget all/any other policies they may have…sad..sad…sad.

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  62. hj (5,693 comments) says:

    duggledog (378) Says:
    Hopefully enough of them come to form a critical mass and tip the balance. Then we can finally pull out of our crazy socialist death-spiral
    …….
    albeit traitorous.
    that’s what’s meant by “our future is with China”?

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  63. Paulus (2,296 comments) says:

    Remind me – Winston was Minister of Foreign Affairs when Clark signed the FTA with China, was he not ?

    Stupid old hypocritical fart.

    Media love him though – without them he would not be in Parliament today.

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  64. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    @joana

    Try trading with any Indian or Chinese dairy owners..they all insist on cash and none of them pay GST even tho those dealing with them have to pay GST

    So, no Indian dairy owners pay GST? So Frucor don’t get paid GST on their accounts for their Pepsi etc is that right?
    So none of the fuel companies get paid GST when they supply fuel to the BP’s Mobils and Gulls by all the Indian and Asian owners, is that correct?

    or are you just being a fuck wit , again

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