Would male MPs get this?

May 27th, 2013 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

asked on at the weekend “Can you at some times be a bit of a bitch to work for?”

I have no problem with asking the are you difficult to work for question, and in fact thought the interview overall was well done.

However would a male MP be asked a question like that?

Would any male MP be asked “Can you at some times be a bit of a prick to work for?”. If not, why not?

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34 Responses to “Would male MPs get this?”

  1. Judith (8,348 comments) says:

    Would any male MP be asked “Can you at some times be a bit of a prick to work for?”. If not, why not?

    Probably not. A female would be regarded as a ‘bitch’ for asking a male that sort of question, and a male would be seen to be offering some kind of challenge.

    A female asking another female is not regarded as challenging – and in some circumstances can even be an indirect compliment – ‘she’s up there with the boys’ kind of stuff.

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  2. Aucklander05 (1 comment) says:

    I lost all respect for Rachel Smalley, and gained respect for Hekia in the gracious way she dealt with this questioning.

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  3. Keeping Stock (10,167 comments) says:

    Tacky stuff from Rachel Smalley. If 3News wants The Nation to be taken seriously as a player on political matters, it needs to conduct itself seriously instead of being a tabloid/infotainment show.

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  4. Judith (8,348 comments) says:

    @keeping stock

    It is not as ‘tacky’ as it may sound. Popular female culture allows for the use of the word bitch as both an insult and a compliment. If someone in Parata is being tough – getting the job done – applying a firm hand (rather than soft feminine touch), then the use of the word bitch in this case can be seen to be complimentary to some females. I didn’t see the interview, but I doubt Parata would have taken offence and maybe even smiled at the comment.

    As I said above, only a female could do this to another female – any other combination and it could have rebounded, badly.

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  5. Elaycee (4,331 comments) says:

    Why should we be surprised? This is, after all, just TV3 at work.

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  6. RRM (9,633 comments) says:

    This is New Zealand Style.

    Men don’t know how to wear a suit; women get their hair cut short and dyed to contrast their zebra print and fit a “World’s greatest Bitch” cover on the spare wheel of their SUV. Both sexes have strongly-held opinions about rugby.

    F*ck we’re an attractive race.

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  7. Paul Williams (877 comments) says:

    It’s a stupidly and unnecessarily sexist question, the fact that a woman asked the question is not, IMO, relevant. The same question could be framed more simply as “Can you be difficult to work for”?

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  8. emmess (1,394 comments) says:

    I think it is an okay question, overall The Nation is fairly unbiased.
    If you want to see an awful TV3 ‘political’ show and I am talking worse than Campbell Live here.
    Try watching the circle jerk that is Think Tank.

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  9. sparky (235 comments) says:

    Hekia totally owned that interview on the Nation. Rachel Smalley was very average, and plastic. Asking someone if they are a bitch to work with, is a bit over the top. But then what does one come to expect from TV3.

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  10. Keeping Stock (10,167 comments) says:

    @ Judith – when a hard-core leftie like Morgan Godfery from Maui Street describes Smalley’s comments as “crass and deeply offensive”, you know that they’ve overstepped the mark.

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  11. dime (9,651 comments) says:

    RRM – bahaha

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  12. RJL (145 comments) says:

    Would any male MP be asked “Can you at some times be a bit of a prick to work for?”. If not, why not?

    The question would not be asked of a male National MP, because the answer is already common knowledge.

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  13. kowtow (7,914 comments) says:

    It is perfectly acceptable for the left wing media to be sexist towards women who are cast as right of centre.

    Afterall they are simply fulfilling their role of furthering their agenda.

    In that respect left wing females are the biggest bitches in the pack.

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  14. Whafe (652 comments) says:

    Judith – Get a grip…

    Your analogy of the word bitch having multiple meanings in the female world could be deemed no different to the use of the C word in the male world. And no it would not be tolerated…

    I am pretty easy going, but to use that word in a question is just laziness from a journo… Did it offend me? No. It did however make me think that the show is far from serious and is more just a tabloid crap show

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  15. Judith (8,348 comments) says:

    Whafe (643) Says:
    May 27th, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    I wouldn’t know, I am not a male, but I am female, and I frequently hear that word used in similar manner, and in fact, have heard it used recently in exactly the same manner – by Ms Bennett – who if I am not mistaken, is hardly a ‘leftie’.

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  16. mara (751 comments) says:

    I reckon use of both bitch and prick would be acceptable today, as long as they were not pitched aggressively in which case they’d possibly go down like cold sick. It’s all in the nuance of the moment sorta thing.

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  17. Doug (407 comments) says:

    Talking about females calling each other Bitch the best fun at School had to be watching bitch fighting. Pulling of hair screaming swearing crying and somewhere in the middle of the fight you could hear you stole my fu#%ing boyfriend bitch.

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  18. Mark (1,417 comments) says:

    AT the end of the day the issue is simply about an incompetent minister who is well out of her depth. The fact she is a female is irrelevant. The staff turnover issue is indicative rather than being a cause of the problem

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  19. mara (751 comments) says:

    I stand by my comment that those words might be OK. I didn’t make the rules, don’t even like them and deplore the fact that public vulgarity is rife and acceptable to an increasing number of low-information people who watch TV3, and whose vocab is shrinking as fast as a bloke’s credentials in snow. Snob that I might be, I don’t rule the world. Yet.

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  20. projectman (206 comments) says:

    Agree with other posters that the question was in bad taste, irrespective of whether there are positive connotations about it.

    I can think of other words that could be used, but not printable in this or any other medium.

    This sort of interviewing (seemingly attempts to appeal to the younger viewers?) is what regrettably we have to put up with now.

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  21. OneTrack (2,782 comments) says:

    AT the end of the day the issue is simply about an incompetent interviewer who is well out of her depth.

    fify

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  22. flipper (3,819 comments) says:

    In US terms Smalley’s use of “Bitch” is similar to one black calling another black “nigger”.

    Was it appropriate?

    No, absolutely not. Neither is acceptable in New Zealand in 2013

    Should Smalley withdraw and publicly apologise to Parata and viewers?
    YES

    Just recall what happened to Paul Henry and Alistair Thompson.

    If Smalley and TV3 are permitted to survive this we will all know that TV3 and TV one have sunk below the nadir.

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  23. wellygirl (9 comments) says:

    @Judith I can’t think of a single time I have heard a woman referred to as a bitch in a complimentary manner, every occasion I have heard it used in reference to any woman (myself included) it has been in a negative context. As a woman I don’t consider the use of the word bitch complimentary in any sense, and I can’t think of a situation when it might be used as a pure compliment without any insulting or negative undertones.

    I didn’t see the interview, but read about the questioning and I think that asking someone if they are a bitch to work for is unprofessional, insulting and crass, I have lost what little respect I had for Rachel Smalley now.

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  24. Redbaiter (7,981 comments) says:

    “If 3News wants The Nation to be taken seriously as a player on political matters, it needs to conduct itself seriously instead of being a tabloid/infotainment show.”

    “you know that they’ve overstepped the mark”

    Keeping Stock- here’s some news for you. Rachel fucking Smelly and the rest of the commies at TV 3 only matter to you if you let them. No one with a brain really gives a fuck.

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  25. OneTrack (2,782 comments) says:

    kowtow @2:35 got to the real issue.

    Would it be acceptable for an interviewer to ask a left-wing female whether she was a bitch to work for? The answer would no doubt be completely different. But, it wont be a problem, Rachel would never ask the same question in that situation.

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  26. Pete George (23,278 comments) says:

    We should give a fuck about the influenced of media in politics. They have a significant influence and are largely unaccountable – they can swing an election with no opportunity to challenge their electioneering.

    It’s worth reading: NZ Politics Daily – 24 May 2013: Is our Parliament too dominated by media?

    On Firstline this morning Smalley kept referring to “the polls” showing electorate support for NZ Power, but they werre ignoring a contradictory TV1 poll and embellishing their own with a story they seemed to want to push. Gower got in on the act as well.

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  27. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    We should give a fuck about the influenced of media in politics.

    PG, here was me expecting you to come running into view waving the extreme feminist flag on this one, but then you surprise me with that little outburst !

    Good to see you have grown a pair. ;)

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  28. Pete George (23,278 comments) says:

    Kea, I think “Can you at some times be a bit of a bitch to work for?” is a fair enough question, it uses common terminology. It’s got nothing to do with feminism. And I’ve never waved an extreme feminist flag, when feminism is taken to extremes it’s as bad as your strong anti-female views.

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  29. David Garrett (6,713 comments) says:

    PG: Well bugger me….no, not literally….very sensible comment. See also the editorial in this weeks’ Listener, and the opinion piece by Karl du Fresne in the same issue…even Brian bloody Edwards is scathing of the persons now posing as “political journalists” in this country…

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  30. maxwell (48 comments) says:

    Interesting to consider what would have happened if a right wing male TV host ( hard to find, I know, but maybe Paul Henry ) had asked Helen Clarke if she was a bit of a bitch to work for .

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  31. Steve (North Shore) (4,519 comments) says:

    Rachel Smalley, are you a bitch?
    I say yes. I now record The Nation so I can skip your childishness and ignorance

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  32. nocommentkiwi (35 comments) says:

    The interview was pretty awkward at times, especially with Smalley asking ‘How maori are you?’

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  33. Shazzadude (521 comments) says:

    “The interview was pretty awkward at times, especially with Smalley asking ‘How maori are you?’”

    That’s far more expensive than asking if someone’s a bitch, IMO.

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  34. Chuck Bird (4,748 comments) says:

    I am sure I have heard male MPs asked if they were rich pricks.

    I bet she would not have asked Grant Robertson the same question although it would have been as applicable. Homosexuals refer to other homosexuals as bitches.

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