Suicide by cop

June 30th, 2013 at 9:16 am by David Farrar

The HoS report:

fatally shot burglar in the back, before hitting him over the head with a torch, his family says.

Details on the two bullet wounds have emerged after the Taranaki man’s body was returned to his family for burial, along with a preliminary pathologist’s report.

“I don’t know that I would grieve any less if he was shot in the front, but being shot in the back – that’s just wrong,” said Diane Richardson, the mother of his partner Kaly.

Even if the family are correct, surely the key issue is why were the Police shooting Morehu?

Police say Adam Te Rata Charles Morehu, 33, was first Tasered, then shot twice in the torso with a police-issue Glock handgun after he acted aggressively towards the officers, twice threatening to kill them and firing a shot from a rifle.

He not only threatened to kill the Police, but he fired his rifle. At that point he was doing suicide by cop. He refused to surrender to armed police, he threatened to kill them, and he fired his rifle.

But they have refused to confirm to the Herald on Sunday that he was shot in the back, saying only that the officer believed he heard Morehu reloading his rifle in the darkness.

I don’t care what the angle is. This is not some Western duel or gunfight. He fired his gun, and refused to surrender. You don’t give him a sporting chance to kill you. You fire.

Kaly had been angry at Morehu for going on the alleged burglary, Richardson said, but more angry still to discover that he need not have died.

Indeed. All he had to do was drop his gun and surrender. Her anger should all by at Morehu, and not at the poor cops who had to risk their lives being shot by him.

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55 Responses to “Suicide by cop”

  1. Keeping Stock (10,230 comments) says:

    Her anger should all by at Morehu, and not at the poor cops who had to risk their lives being shot by him.

    And who will be forever haunted by having had to use lethal force to end a situation where their own lives were in significant danger. I doubt that any police officer ever joins the Police with the intent of killing someone.

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  2. Redbaiter (8,211 comments) says:

    I hear the Mana Party are going to advocate for a law specifying that any armed Maori burglar caught in the act by Police must be permitted to fire at least six shots before the Police can fire back.

    Also that only Maori Police can shoot any Maori burglar.

    The Mana Party says gunfights between Police and Maori burglars should be conducted on a level playing field. (apparently its a TOW principle)

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  3. jims_whare (401 comments) says:

    More insipid cry baby stuff from the sunday papers – is it any surprise?

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  4. Manolo (13,517 comments) says:

    Nothing to see here. One less criminal, no loss to society.

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  5. Keeping Stock (10,230 comments) says:

    Mike King is siding with the family:

    Mike King ‏@themikeking 19m

    Dear Police why did u make up this story? Can u stop lying, stop hiding & truthfully explain. #shotintheback http://nzh.tw/10893846?r=iptw

    He’s obviously been shot at before, and clearly knows exactly what happened that night; cue Tui advert

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  6. adze (2,041 comments) says:

    My god, I think that was the first Redbaiter post I’ve actually enjoyed…

    Seriously though, it’s amazing how families have a go at Police, when it was their son who was attempting to ROB a place, refused to surrender to Police and then FIRED FIRST. It says more about the families that respond like this.
    It’s like those Burglars in the US who sue for injuring themselves in someone’s place in the commission of their crime.

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  7. duggledog (1,477 comments) says:

    I can almost guarantee that Morehu won’t cause any more trouble in future.

    You kind of have to know what sort of place Waitara is to understand the family’s reaction.

    Redbaiter, you don’t understand. When the Mana Party gain power they are going to de-criminalise crime (committed by Maori)

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  8. liarbors a joke (1,069 comments) says:

    tsk tsk…those naughty murderous police people..what were they thinking…

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  9. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    He wasn’t doing “suicide by cop “, – “suicide by cop” is if he had a firearm , it was incapbale of firing and he proceeded to intimate he would use it – if he had dropped one of the police there I can garuntee he wouldn’t have hung around to get shot himself -this clown was in a shoot out fantasy- too much weed and TV

    This guy was just a sack of shit got what he deserved. Move along.

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  10. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Dear Shitbag Family

    1. Why was he out doing burglaries?

    2.

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  11. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    2 Why was he armed to tip over a golf club.?

    3. Why wasn’t he at home having quality family time?

    4. Where you happy to share in the proceeds of his previous crimes?

    5. Look on it this way, its sorta like a redundancy for us people that work.

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  12. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    Why wasn’t he at home having quality family time?

    Better remember to take two bullet proof vests when I go out at night…one for the front and back.

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  13. man.u (2 comments) says:

    Sub Title in HoS paper says “Alleged burglar shot in the back by police”

    Why is he being a burglar “alleged”, yet the police shooting him in the back is not?

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  14. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Pauleastbay

    1. Colonization
    2. Colonization
    3. Colonization
    4. Colonization
    5. Colonization

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  15. holysheet (321 comments) says:

    The gene pool has been improved with this lose of shite.
    Apart from the immediate whanau, who were the benafisheries of any proceeds of his crimes, who really gives a shit at his loss.

    my spelling reminds me of a joke about this young boy who was asked what he did for a living.
    “On the fisheries” he replied
    ‘On the fisheries”?
    “yeah on the benefit”

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  16. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Ross69

    Do that if you are going out armed to committ a crime- a head shot would obviously be a waste of time on you so just cover your vitals.

    It would probably pay to wait for the result of the inquest, but obviously the Sunday papers are privy to the files of three investigations that are on going so why wait?

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  17. Shunda barunda (2,975 comments) says:

    Won’t someone think of the criminals??

    All us evil honky pigs don’t understand, he was only carrying a loaded firearm to threaten the people he was robbing, not the filth!!
    And then the filth shot him!

    Oh how unfair!

    If we all just left our doors unlocked this would never happen!!

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  18. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,855 comments) says:

    Yet another chorus from The Moron Taranaki Choir.

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  19. peterwn (3,232 comments) says:

    Whaleoil would have a ‘please explain’ for the police. Why did the officer not use all 17 rounds (the magazine capacity of a Glock)?

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  20. Newbie (42 comments) says:

    Did the bullet fired by the police pass through the body? If so, exit wounds could be interpreted to mean that that was the initial entry shot. (Tho, exit wounds would depend on the type of bullet used). Also, an exit and entry wound could be interpreted to mean more than one bullet was fired.

    If he was indeed shot in the back, it only takes a split second between the time the officer decided to pull the trigger and for the intended target to turn his body.

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  21. tvb (4,301 comments) says:

    Who cares. What was he doing there. I say shoot the c**t and do the warning shots afterwards. Occupiers should be allowed to use disprortioate force against an intruder.

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  22. liarbors a joke (1,069 comments) says:

    That we are even discussing the piece of shit and ” why was he shot in the back ” shows how fucked up we are as a country.

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  23. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Lots of usual suspects on here today.

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  24. Psycho Milt (2,397 comments) says:

    The Morehu family just needs to work on improving its policies and procedures. For instance, most families find a policy of not firing rifles at armed police officers can help achieve goals like not having armed police officers shooting bullets into various parts of your body.

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  25. Keeping Stock (10,230 comments) says:

    Comment of the Week Milt :D

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  26. duggledog (1,477 comments) says:

    Comment of the week Milt.

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  27. liarbors a joke (1,069 comments) says:

    Comment of the week Milt.

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  28. GPT1 (2,109 comments) says:

    Whether the decision to fire was reasonable has to be based on the circumstances and information the officer had at the time, not (if you will excuse the pun) a post mortem of the incident weeks and months later.

    Dick around with guns during a crime (let alone firing) and you ask to be shot. Short of him running away with his hands in the air and no gun in his hand I don’t really care where he got shot either.

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  29. rightoverlabour (85 comments) says:

    Who the eff is doing all this down voting? Prefer that this piece of shit, now thankfully removed from society, have shot the cop? Only question is why were there only 2 shots? Did the gun jam?

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  30. liarbors a joke (1,069 comments) says:

    probably Joana…

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  31. labrator (1,879 comments) says:

    Typically the issue with being “shot in the back” is that the implication is you were running away and thus not posing a threat. In this instance it appears that a second officer well trained in dealing with aggressive threats flanked the man who was not running away. As such, there are many ways he could’ve been “shot in the back” whilst still posing a clear and present danger to an officer of the law.

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  32. liarbors a joke (1,069 comments) says:

    I smell a compensation claim..lol..dickheads..

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  33. orewa1 (428 comments) says:

    How in God’s name did this make the first item on the state-funded One News tonight – “Claim the police shot a man twice in the back.”

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  34. lilman (947 comments) says:

    Your dealimg with the shit of society here,then think theres more bred every day.
    Shit level New Zealanders ,white trash and native money drains,Im afraid just the begining of many, many generations

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  35. peterwn (3,232 comments) says:

    Milt – yes, and makes all the difference between a cop coming round for a friendly chat versus doing an Armed Offenders Squad raid at 5am.

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  36. lilman (947 comments) says:

    At 5am I hope most raids are carried out,fewer people to get caught up in crossfire’
    I guess the officer thought it was a par 3 but got up and down in 2.
    Well done.
    I’m glad he went home to his family safe and sound and if the Morehu had any class they would be apologising to the entire Taranaki community.

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  37. thaksinsproposal (40 comments) says:

    It is interesting to see how Mr Farrar sees the shooting of a person.
    Is it that tasers tasers do not work properly or do not have good range.
    Gosh, i see if we kill a person T 5AM
    I want to know why you have to aim to kill,immediately after a taser,
    and I do not think the propogandist can explain this.
    He might delete me, but I doubt NZ Police will be able to explain.
    explain here NZ

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  38. Griff (7,178 comments) says:

    Did you hear about the cops who were called out to a burglary at a golf course?
    They got a hole in one.

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  39. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    I want to know why you have to aim to kill,immediately after a taser,

    thaksinsproposal, there was a problem with the Taser.

    Police are instructed to aim at the center mass. The big bit. Shouting to wound is a TV fiction. You do not shoot at things you do not want to kill.

    Now we have the cops policy sorted, can you tell us what Adam Morehu’s policy was ?

    1. When he was doing a burglary did he only shoot to wound ?

    2. When shooting at cops, did he shoot to kill, or only disable/cripple them ?

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  40. thaksinsproposal (40 comments) says:

    labrator (1,380) Says:
    June 30th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
    Typically the issue with being “shot in the back” is that the implication is you were running away and thus not posing a threat. In this instance it appears that a second officer well trained in dealing with aggressive threats flanked the man who was not running away. As such, there are many ways he could’ve been “shot in the back” whilst still posing a clear and present danger to an officer of the law.

    Thanks labrator. lets shoot them in the back, cowardly weakling cops, stupid cops, really dumb cops . sorry labrator fuck off, you have no relevance here,. write on another column, this isone is about to get tough.
    paulscottstories

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  41. Yoza (1,745 comments) says:

    Another extrajudicial style execution carried out by police in Taranaki and all the little fascists infesting Kiwiblog can barely contain their glee.

    Shot in the back while, according to one source, he was on his knees.

    I am looking forward to the latest whitewash masquerading as an investigation to exonerate Morehu’s killers.

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  42. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    Yoza- Lay off the meth pipe you absolute fuckwit! (David I will happily take any demerit points for this!)
    The scumbag crim was having a fucking SHOOTOUT with Police- And you call it an “execution”?? What planet do you lefty morons live on?

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  43. Yoza (1,745 comments) says:

    So did they shoot him in the back after they tasered him and before they hit him in the head with the torch?

    At what stage did he fire the shot: Before they tasered him; after they tasered him, but before they shot him in the back?

    If the shot was fired before they tasered him why didn’t they return fire immediately, why would they piss about attempting to taser someone they thought presented an immediate and imminent threat to their lives?

    Are you trying to say the New Zealand police never lie or fabricate evidence?

    I have no doubt the police will orchestrate an inquiry that exonerates the officer who killed Morehu. I also have no doubt that this case, like the Steven Wallace execution, will leave a nasty after taste as another killer cop gets to walk.

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  44. Black with a Vengeance (1,732 comments) says:

    Cop should have walked around to the front and shot him from the front eh lads?

    And one shot to the face to avoid an open casket and save on bullets would be the one too eh ?

    Must be way more fun to shoot a man from behind while he’s incapacitated by a taser though eh boys ?

    …especially if he’s Maori!!!

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  45. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Darky with a chip on his shoulder, I have read allegations your sooty brother was holding a gun to the cops head and the only reason he did not “put a cap in that pig” was the gun jammed.

    Dam white man selling broken muskets to the bros ! Someone should make a TOW claim over that :)

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  46. Black with a Vengeance (1,732 comments) says:

    Post a link to these alleged readings Kea cos i reckon you’re full of shit!

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  47. Black with a Vengeance (1,732 comments) says:

    surely the key issue is why were the Police shooting Morehu?

    For me the key issue is…

    A cop tasered a guy, hit him on the head with a torch and shot him twice in the back, assassination style, and you gutless, chickenshit cracka ass muppets think thats all good ?

    Well fuck all y’all!!!

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  48. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Post a link to these alleged readings Kea cos i reckon you’re full of shit!

    Cheeky darkie, here ya go

    “A reliable source, who cannot be named, told the Taranaki Daily News an officer who collected a Glock pistol from a police car found Morehu holding a gun to the second officer’s head.

    It is alleged Morehu then attempted to shoot the officer but his gun jammed, and the other officer shot Morehu.”

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/8860738/Gun-to-officers-head

    I know Stuff is a pretty obscure source, so don’t feel bad about missing it :)

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  49. Nostalgia-NZ (5,074 comments) says:

    An ‘obscure source’ that conflicts with police information released so far. Try again.

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  50. Black with a Vengeance (1,732 comments) says:

    Counterspin – A ‘reliable source’, who was where exactly at the time of the incident ?

    Surely the cops would have said by now that one of them was being held hostage at gunpoint…

    as is…

    Police communications manager Sara Stavropoulos said “There’s so much rumour and speculation around this case and this kind of stuff is not helpful.

    …meaning, the journo’s ‘reliable’ source is as full of shit as you are Kea !

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  51. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Nostalgia-NZ, I simply stated I had read “allegations” and the police have said bugger all so far. Don’t blame me that things are not going the way you would like them to.

    Let he who has not sinned cast the first shot stone.

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  52. Nostalgia-NZ (5,074 comments) says:

    Let he who has not sinned cast the first shot stone.’

    Cast away Kea.

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  53. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Sooty, given the lack of reliable information, I am puzzled as to why you prefer some media reports over others ?

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  54. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Nostalgia-NZ, a reliable source reckons he was holding a gun to the cops head and trying to shoot him. I did not write that. It was in the same media you are getting your information from. You can not simply cherry pick the bits you want to hear and spit out the pips.

    It may surprise you to learn I am very suspicious of police shootings and think they are seldom justified. The business around the alledged, multiple taser use, does not sound right to me for a start. I am actually reserving judgment at the this point.

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  55. Raphael (82 comments) says:

    shot twice: i.e. the officer most likely doubled tapped him, probably as per training (could someone confirm).

    double-tapping improves overall accuracy as the second shot is often more accurate than the first.

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