The Glenn inquiry

June 7th, 2013 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

Phil Kitchin at Dom Post reports:

The future of Sir ’s $2 million inquiry into family violence is on a knife edge after three more staff resigned, and world-leading experts it recruited expressed deep concerns about its future.

The trumpeted inquiry – set up last year with Sir Owen’s promise of $80m to fight family violence – was already reeling from the resignations of its two senior managers and three of its four chairpersons.

Yesterday, three contracted experts in the domestic violence and sector resigned.

Deborah Mackenzie, Deanne Littlejohn and Alex Port, who have more than 30 years’ collective experience, said they had lost confidence in the inquiry.

They held serious concerns for the safety of information from people interviewed so far, as the inquiry was no longer being led by experts in family violence.

They also lost confidence in its integrity when it announced it would take a “corporate” approach.

“Corporate values revolve around ideas of profit, shutting out the competition and self-interest. Those values are not aligned with social justice,” Ms Mackenzie said.

I don’t know what exactly led to the fallout, but I think we get some idea from the comment above.

If one of the experts has a view that corporate values are evil, and it is all about social justice, I can only imagine where the inquiry was heading. I suspect they had already decided child abuse is a result of capitalism and colonialism, and that all you need to do to stop child abuse is tax rich pricks more and give more money to beneficiaries.

The motivations of Mr Glenn are excellent, and the fact he is offering $80 million of his own money to help fight child abuse is hugely commendable. My hopes from the inquiry, if it continues, is it will produce something worthwhile.

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21 Responses to “The Glenn inquiry”

  1. RRM (9,919 comments) says:

    I suspect they had already decided child abuse is a result of capitalism and colonialism, and that all you need to do to stop child abuse is tax rich pricks more and give more money to beneficiaries.

    I wouldn’t assume that at all…

    …Maybe Owen Glenn’s initiative is run in a more businesslike manner than what the people making those comments are used to, and they’re saying they find it a difficult environment to do their sort of work in?

    (I am not saying that IS what it is, but I think you are jumping to a HUGE conclusion!)

    Many of my mates are public servant / artiste types, and when they moan about a “terrible” day at the office it always sounds like a quiet day where I work! :-)

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  2. KiwiGreg (3,255 comments) says:

    ..or it could be a problem with Glenn

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  3. nasska (11,503 comments) says:

    I go along with RRM….any “experts” in this field would have academic or public service backgrounds & probably wouldn’t know what a days work was if it went up them!

    Having Mr Glen introduce them to the real world was probably just too much for the petals.

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  4. hj (7,011 comments) says:

    I suspect they had already decided child abuse is a result of capitalism and colonialism, and that all you need to do to stop child abuse is tax rich pricks more and give more money to beneficiaries.
    ………

    I think that is a recurrent them over and over again and organisations tend to weed people out and consolidated their particular paradigm. RadioNZ is a classic example (I suspect they are watching Jim Moira as a tad too mainstream – “can’t you at least say “Aotearoa” more!”).

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  5. Redbaiter (8,823 comments) says:

    Experts in family violence??

    I have nothing but contempt for the whole industry given-

    1) the unacceptable level of violence that exists today,

    2) a failure to reduce that level to any consequential degree and,

    3) the politicization of the issue by radical man hating feminazis.

    (let alone social justice crusaders- leftists- pffftt..every good idea that someone might have had gets fucked up by liberal progressives and their focus on politics over results)

    Actually, Glenn needs his head looked at for hiring such Marxist idiots in the first place.

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  6. Chuck Bird (4,883 comments) says:

    Whatever Glenn’s motive is I doubt if it will do any more to reduce child abuse than Bradford’s anti-smacking legislation supported by Key.

    The so called “think tank” just an exercise in group think. Well over 80% of the general public opposed the anti-smacking legislation that undermined parental authority. I would be very surprised if one the panel or those who just resigned did not support this legislation.

    Have anyone seen the proper scientific research by Prof David Ferguson? I do not know any of the overseas so called experts but I do know of a few of the local ones. The ones I know are definitely anti smacking and militant feminist. Just because some of them have a dick does not mean they are not anti-male feminists.

    Just check out Neville Robertson.

    Other areas of interest are child abuse, the prevention of family violence, community development, gender and cultural justice and institutional responses to violence against women.

    https://glenninquiry.org.nz/who-is-involved-in-the-glenn-inquiry

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  7. toms (299 comments) says:

    Stooping to putting words into other people mouths now, Farrar? Who exactly said corporate values are evil? Deborah Mackenzie said corporate values were not the same as the values of social justice – an observation not normally associated with controversy.

    Still, we can’t have pesky experts with their experience and knowledge all that other inconvenient stuff of theirs gate-crashing the blinkered little ideological fantasy world you and Owen Glenn live in, can we now?

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  8. RRM (9,919 comments) says:

    Speaking of “stooping to putting words into other people mouths”…

    Toms – How do you know Owen Glenn lives in a blinkered little ideological fantasy world?

    How much of his own cash has he stumped up for this RESEARCH PROJECT, again? ;-)

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  9. Redbaiter (8,823 comments) says:

    “the blinkered little ideological fantasy world you and Owen Glenn live in, can we now?”

    Owen Glenn gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Labour Party while it was run by Helen Klark.

    Is that what you mean by blinkered ideological fantasy world?

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  10. toms (299 comments) says:

    All the people I know who have had anything to do with Owen Glenn say he is a complete tool, and Labour with hindsight will be regretting ever having anything to do with him.

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  11. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,903 comments) says:

    toms

    So you know Trevor Mallard, do you?

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  12. Nostalgia-NZ (5,202 comments) says:

    ‘They held serious concerns for the safety of information from people interviewed so far, as the inquiry was no longer being led by experts in family violence.’

    From something stated to speculation about a corporate approach, interesting how people leaving the inquiry who reveal the reasons why get attacked anyway. However still looks like an unprecedented fiasco from which members are fleeing from what could be a declaration of ‘my way or the highway’ from Glenn. Speculation in the papers about whether it should be called the ‘Glenn Inquiry’ might be getting nearer the mark than the corporate flag DPF is waving as the reason for the calamity, no doubt to undermine an inquiry that should involve the Government of the day.

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  13. Shunda barunda (2,983 comments) says:

    It’s most likely being deliberately derailed.

    Ideologues control this field and will not allow their political capital to be eroded.

    Shame about all the people that stood to benefit from a balanced approach to serious social issues.

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  14. Bob R (1,375 comments) says:

    ***Glenn needs his head looked at for hiring such Marxist idiots***

    @ Redbaiter,

    The unfortunate thing is that the social sciences have been so corrupted by Marxist & Post Modernist mind poison that public confidence has been seriously undermined in their findings.* That said there are some who do very good, empirical and robust work but you’ve got to check them pretty thoroughly.

    * http://www.amazon.com/Higher-Superstition-Academic-Quarrels-Science/dp/0801857074

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  15. Shunda barunda (2,983 comments) says:

    Still, we can’t have pesky experts with their experience and knowledge all that other inconvenient stuff of theirs gate-crashing the blinkered little ideological fantasy world you and Owen Glenn live in, can we now?

    Are you still banning people from your little ideological rant page toms?

    Ideological fantasy world indeed, I would have you pegged as the mayor of such a place.

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  16. Shunda barunda (2,983 comments) says:

    All the people I know who have had anything to do with Owen Glenn say he is a complete tool,

    That is possible toms, but it’s also very possible that all the people you know are complete tools as well.

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  17. Shunda barunda (2,983 comments) says:

    Anyone seen the work of Bryan Bruce on these issues? I reckon that guy is about as ideologically mad as that form of madness gets.
    What a tool ;)

    With people like this dominating this field in NZ, there is no way an outsider (even with a lot of coin) can possibly succeed, caring for our kids is rapt up nice and tight against the political left wings toxic bosom.

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  18. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    yeah she lost me at social justice. see you in hell lady

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  19. Steve (North Shore) (4,561 comments) says:

    Owen Glenn is not using $80K for the better of NZ, he is helping Labour. That is not a bad thing if Owen can get rid of the troughers, the gays, the queers, the dykes etc that have hijacked Labour. Back to basics Labour would be even better for the National Party. To have good Government you need good opposition, all we have is whingy whining cock suckers and lesbians, and a bunch of eco freindly tossers (commy pretenders)

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  20. KevinH (1,227 comments) says:

    A charitable foundation is a far more effective way of achieving the sort of results Sir Owen Glenn is looking for, i.e. a contestable fund that reaches out into the community that Sir Owen seeks to influence.
    Poverty, child abuse, domestic violence , are all human conditions, larger than life, expressions of humanity that require intergenerational effort to affect change.
    It’s all about love, we have to love each other.

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  21. Jim (398 comments) says:

    Social justice is such a vague, wishy-washy term. The perpetrators of family violence probably think they are dispensing social justice.

    I think RRM nailed it though. Corporate most likely means businesslike, with a plan, measurable objectives, performance indicators so they can tell whether the spending is effective, etc. All totally foreign concepts to public service types which is why it their world is a bottomless pit to throw money in.

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