The impact of the Greens proposed ban on food advertising

June 21st, 2013 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

I blogged previously on the Green party policy to ban all television of , unless they deem that to be part of a balanced nutritious diet.

A reader has sent me a list of the top 50 TV advertisers in 2012. They include the companies below. It is a fair bet that if the get to implement this policy in Government that it won’t just be Mediaworks in receivership, but also TVNZ. It would destroy free to air broadcasting as it is funded by advertising. It would be good for Sky TV though!

The top 50 TV advertisers include:

  • Foodstuffs (1)
  • Progressive (2)
  • McDonalds (11)
  • Restaurant Brands (21)
  • Antares Restaurant Group (23)
  • Coke (28)
  • Sanitarium (38)
  • Cadbury (39)
  • DB (44)
  • Lion Nathan (45)
  • Fonterra (46)
  • Subway (49)

How many of them will meet the Green Party litmus test to allow them to advertise on TV?

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31 Responses to “The impact of the Greens proposed ban on food advertising”

  1. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (783 comments) says:

    With polls pointing to a Labour-Green-NZ First-Mana Government in 2014, Greens will have a food and safety minister. So there will be restrictions for food advertising. All good for New Zealand who are very keen to have a change of government.

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  2. gazzmaniac (2,317 comments) says:

    I’ll believe a Labour-Green-NZF-Racist fucks coalition government when I see it. It won’t happen, I don’t think New Zealand is retarded enough to vote for it.

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  3. lazza (358 comments) says:

    Would you like fries with that Sir? … or mung beans and tofu?

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  4. anonymouse (693 comments) says:

    Just for those who don’t know

    Antares Restaurant Group is BK, while Restaurant Brands is KFC

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  5. tamati (69 comments) says:

    Would that ban extend to cooking shows on TV? They re all full of product placement!

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  6. bhudson (4,734 comments) says:

    On the plus side, if the Greens banned all this advertising then the broadcasters would not be able to afford all those reality TV shows!

    Finally a policy from them that has a measure of sense to it

    [DPF: reality TV shows are cheaper than many other shows as you don't have to pay actors. Hence it will mean more not less reality TV shows!]

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  7. Rightandleft (627 comments) says:

    The Greens really do have a very low opinion of their fellow human beings. Not only do they blame us for destroying the Earth, they think us so stupid we need to be protected from all the nasty sweet and fatty food advertisements because we don’t know that eating a steady diet of BK and KFC could actually be, shock horror, bad for us! Better food labelling is one thing, but outright bans are the stuff of an intrusive nanny state.

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  8. mandk (816 comments) says:

    Stop complaining, Comrade Farrar, and enjoy your greens. You know they’re good for you!

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  9. Colville (2,058 comments) says:

    Mmmmmm… reading this while having a late lunch of porkbelly sammich and a stella

    I love fridays :-)

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  10. Kimble (4,375 comments) says:

    Not a problem, DPF.

    The Greens also plan to nationalise all media companies and fund them all through taxes, freeing everyone from artists to the capitalist pig advertisers themselves, and eliminating the need to sully The People’s eyeball diet with disgusting advertising.

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  11. Kleva Kiwi (281 comments) says:

    “Sir Cullen’s Sidekick (168) Says:
    June 21st, 2013 at 3:04 pm
    With polls pointing to a Labour-Green-NZ First-Mana Government in 2014, Greens will have a food and safety minister. So there will be restrictions for food advertising. All good for New Zealand who are very keen to have a change of government.”

    I hate to give you oxygen (since you seam to be deprived of it so much) but what polls are showing this???
    And how on earth do you come to the conclusion that NZ wants a change when the MAJORITY of NZ votes National?
    And how on earth can restrictions in choice be good for New Zealand?

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  12. Alan Wilkinson (1,812 comments) says:

    @Kleva Kiwi. You haven’t caught up with Sidekick. He does satire.

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  13. bhudson (4,734 comments) says:

    @DPF,

    That is a very fair point. I will have to redouble my opposition to the ludicrous Greens policies!

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  14. Neil (555 comments) says:

    Big daddy and mummy know best !!!!.
    This is precisely why we don’t need a Greens-Labor-Hone,NZ First coalition.
    Who determines what is nutritious ? The state food bureaucracy in Wellington located in a new building by the waterfront I suppose we get endless ads for tofu,bamboo sprouts and the nearest State Food restaurant which opens at 4pm and closes at 7pm.No wine or liquor only organic water !!!!! No thrills for kids only plain packaged food and closely monitored calorie counts
    No fun in NZ. Prrogrammes on TV will be about the organic farms in Southland,Northland and Westland with weeds. No animals as they add Carbon Dioxide to the atmosphere. No cars,unless carrying Coalition govt members, to reduce the risk of climate change.
    Which is precisely why I get the feeling the Lab/Greens are losing ground because of the leftward drift. People have seen their craziness and with people like Delahunty,Turei,Sage, Mathers,Browning and Genter pushing their cause look for even more rapid deterioration in poll numbers. They are luddite nutters.
    National must be piling up so much ammunition to fire at these apologiists for an alternate government.

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  15. Manolo (13,316 comments) says:

    You can almost sense the fear (and spin) in DPF’s words.

    Labour Lite must be scared of the extreme Labour-Greens Left taking over. As the saying goes, you reap what you sow. Time to get the passports out.

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  16. Black with a Vengeance (1,552 comments) says:

    Destroy free to air broadcasting?

    Sounds like a great idea!

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  17. lazza (358 comments) says:

    Bid to relect Nats in 2014.

    Memo to Self : reads … Must remember to …

    1. Talk up David’s powers of public speaking and his all round team building leadership.

    2. Praise Russell’s inspired stance on macro-monetary mechamisms and

    3. Mention the proven stability and coalition credentials of Winston and his band of rocket surgeons.

    That! oughta do it!

    Talk about a DreamTeam.

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  18. jaba (2,089 comments) says:

    and many sponsor sports .. I guess they, the sports, will be the next to be screwed

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  19. bhudson (4,734 comments) says:

    Talk about a DreamTeam.

    That’s the Greens approach: Clint sells the dream, Russel delivers the nightmare.

    The Green Party of Aotearoa: a triumph of form over substance

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  20. jaba (2,089 comments) says:

    the greens opposition of “bad” food hasn’t helped assistant green leader Metiria Turei

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  21. thaksinsproposal (40 comments) says:

    gazzmaniac (1,653)
    June 21st, 2013 at 3:09 pm is there,
    ” I’ll believe a Labour-Green-NZF-Racist fucks coalition government when I see it. It won’t happen, I don’t think New Zealand is retarded enough to vote for it ”

    I agree with him, we are not so stupid as to vote for this increasingly mad Green agenda
    first there was money printing, then there was John Key is vile, now we have the control of market approach.
    Imagine being the Reserve Bank Manager and having to listen to Russell Norman dictates.

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  22. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (783 comments) says:

    Alan Wilkinson (1,590) Says:
    June 21st, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    @Kleva Kiwi. You haven’t caught up with Sidekick. He does satire.

    Hi ya Alan – I still have a chuckle when people come back and attack me!!! Good to wind people up.

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  23. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (783 comments) says:

    @Kleva Kiwi – Check out the latest Roy Morgan poll bro – Labour-Green-NZ First-Mana will be comfortably in power. Game over for John Key….

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  24. Fisiani (943 comments) says:

    A green government is a nightmare possibility. Surely nz is not that thick or masochistic. Mmp could deliver a coalition of losers.

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  25. OneTrack (2,564 comments) says:

    “Not a problem, DPF.

    The Greens also plan to nationalise all media companies and fund them all through taxes, freeing everyone from artists to the capitalist pig advertisers themselves, and eliminating the need to sully The People’s eyeball diet with disgusting advertising.”

    The Greens will simply nationalise all capitalist pig dog food companies. All will report to the Minister of Food on how many litres of wholesome mung bean soap each must produce. A “security” office will be assigned to each to ensure there is not slacking.

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  26. Mobile Michael (410 comments) says:

    I think Greens would be happy if banning food advertising hurt TVNZ – they would trumpet how “the market” doesn’t work and insist on a taxpayer funded ad free network complete with non stop documentaries personally blaming you for everything bad in the world.

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  27. KiwiSteve (14 comments) says:

    What seems to be forgotten in all this is that 80+% of all products on supermarket shelves did not exist 2 generations ago. They are not food in any nutritional sense, and many contain ingredients which are demonstrably harmful, laws and regulations notwithstanding.

    So, for all the brave folk who think it is their right to stuff anything down their gullett, mistakenly calling it food, they can look forward to a myriad of sickness and diseases. Be my guest.

    And for the fools who imagine that this great marketing experiment to see just how gullible and stupid people really are is really just good old marketing via tv and radio, instead of bleating about the left or the right or the green or the yellow, just do some proper research to check out the merits or otherwise of these modern wonder foods. And by that I don’t mean the dishonest contrived and manufactured ‘evidence’ spewed out by the BigPharma and BioTech and fast food companies in the name of conning people into believing that their products are safe. They are self-serving and untrustworthy in the extreme, and companies and politicians and media who turn a blind eye and allow them to peddle their poisons in the name of ‘just doing business’ are already being found out and exposed for the charlatans they are. Oh no! Not us! Yes…

    Don’t believe me? Just check out the Boycott Monsanto movement and you’ll see what I mean. You know, the company which makes so many of the worlds agricultural chemicals… er I mean agricultural seeds… er I mean foods. Just do some honest research, please, instead of spouting vacuous left-right rhetoric. Do your argument some justice by validating it if you can. On its own it counts for nothing. Sorry.

    And finally, I think the notion of ‘our’ media being sold to the highest bidder, thus leaving behind the notion of public good is an act of treason. If a media company cannot deliver sufficient material of sufficient value to a sufficient number of people, without having to bend over and take it from purveyors of adulterated, plasticised, toxic and disease-inducing drinks and non-foods, not to mention the poisoning of ecosystems and food chains in the process, then they have sold out and no longer deserve any of our respect or support. Please don’t pretend that this is a great example of ‘market forces’, as if that somehow legitimises it. The same argument holds for cluster mines, nuclear waste, brothels and street drugs. There are real reasons why people oppose those things: they do damage. Those whose only claim is ‘market forces’ as some kind of gold standard have become amoral. If it makes money, it is good. If it harms people, who cares? I don’t think so.

    And I am not some lunatic greenie blueie leftie rightie etc. Just educated and open-minded enough to do plenty of research. The internet is still available, you know…

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  28. UpandComer (506 comments) says:

    I’ve noticed a pattern. The Greens have policies. Not ‘proposals’. Policies. Someone like David Farrar points out the implications. The Greens backtrack and lie and say it wasn’t really their policy, they weren’t there. Either the Greens never think through the implications of their policies, or they are lying weasels. I think both. It’s fine though, because they are in the right cause you see.

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  29. thaksinsproposal (40 comments) says:

    Kiwisteve, that was quite a serious post, up there , and I think then that you might agree then with restrictions on advertising.
    But where would you draw the line, is it straight after we leave the vegetable department and get to the packaged goods.
    I think there is substantial evidence against sugar now, but it is everywhere, I picked up a bottle of chilli sauce and it was a staggering 70 per cent sugar.
    Would we ban all advertising of meat for instance. Would we ban rice because it has low nutritional level.
    I would like you to go further with your argument because it all comes down to specifics.
    And anyway as pointed out by upancomer above, with the Greens a bad lunch today is ok tomorrow

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  30. wat dabney (3,655 comments) says:

    The really tragic thing is that a subsequent National government won’t undo such censorship.

    Which makes them just as bad.

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  31. KiwiSteve (14 comments) says:

    Hi thaksinsproposal

    My apolgies for the delay in replying, been busy and giving this some serious thought.

    I recall thinking about the ‘remove GST on food’ debate, and the idea then was to remove it only on ‘fresh unprocessed food’, so potatoes, but not chips, etc. It was shot down as ‘too difficult’. Of course, if it had been a government idea it would have been remarkably simple to implement, I’m sure. But that was what I was thinking, but allowing for those ‘food in 10 mins’ type fillers which really do show people how to cook simple fresh food into good meals without all the crap additives, white flour/white sugar/salt/baking powder stuff.

    I’d also ban alcohol advertising anywhere and everywhere. People don’t seem to have gotten the idea that it costs ‘us’ approx $2b pa in side effects, injuries, time off, violence, crime. What will it take? The phrase ‘it’s a no-brainer has an ironic twist, n’est pas?

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