The power, the power!

July 20th, 2013 at 10:00 am by David Farrar

Audrey Young quotes in an article on David Shearer:

But Goff said that Shearer, like every Leader of the Opposition, was up against the combined resources of a Government machine with huge resources and of some powerful bloggers behind it, intent on discrediting him.

Powerful??

Influential one could argue, but powerful? Who exactly do we have power over?

Sure both Cam and I have had good stories that have damaged . My rumbling of the MPs at the Sky City box, and the leak to Cam of the Party rule changes, including the man ban.

But to blame bloggers for the political incompetence that should have stopped both stories before they even gestated is making excuses. Likewise the inability to respond to the stories when they did emerge. Labour managed to drag the Sky City story out an entire week by trying to hide who actually attended. The was nothing to do with powerful bloggers, just stupidity.

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27 Responses to “The power, the power!”

  1. goldnkiwi (993 comments) says:

    Obviously not giving yourself enough credit ;)

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  2. Pete George (22,848 comments) says:

    Shearer gets at least as much flak at The Standard and The Daily Blog as he does from here and Whale Oil.

    And arguably that is far more damaging to him, because it’s from his own part of the political spectrum, and a significant amount of it is from Labour activists and members.

    And The Standard has clearly been used by the Labour caucus for stoking discontent with Shearer’s leadership. One of the biggest ructions was led by The Standard – the Cunliffe ‘coup’ prior to and during last November’s Labour conference.

    Blogs and bloggers have some influence, but they are just a part of a bigger political playground.

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  3. OneTrack (2,604 comments) says:

    “But Goff said that Shearer, …. was up against the ……. some powerful bloggers ….intent on discrediting him.”

    Hmm. I wouldn’t have called either The Standard or Red Alert “powerful”?

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  4. Pete George (22,848 comments) says:

    “Labour managed to drag the Sky City story out an entire week”

    And the ‘man ban’. It isn’t as much mismanagement as non-management.

    MIA – management is absent, management is abysmal, whichever it is Labour’s biggest discrediter is itself and it’s own.

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  5. Redbaiter (7,626 comments) says:

    “Powerful??”

    Yeah well, means all the pro-Labour blogs must be weak.

    That said, I’m not enthused by any National /Labour battle over who should lead the socialist coalition.

    I prefer Conservative bloggers, who really take the fight to the Progressives. (like Crusader Rabbit and The Conservative) The Labour/ National paradigm is just too bland.

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  6. duggledog (1,358 comments) says:

    But English said that Key, like every Leader of the Opposition, was up against the combined resources of a Helen Clark Labour Government machine with huge resources, election bribes, bureaucratic lackeys, H2 and some powerful radio and TV networks behind it, intent on discrediting him.

    Just to mix things up a bit. Goff’s claim is tragic

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  7. BeaB (2,058 comments) says:

    Shearer is too old, too tired, too lame, too limp, too muddled.
    What is wrong with Labour that they cannot unite to find and then support a leader who can help them win an election?
    This doesn’t bode well for the day when they become the government again.
    Will they always need a dominatrix to keep them in line?
    No wonder socialists create totalitarian regimes enforced by secret police.
    They know they cannot trust themselves, one another or anybody else.

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  8. OneTrack (2,604 comments) says:

    “And the ‘man ban’. It isn’t as much mismanagement as non-management.”

    It was more that, boiled down, it was a totally toxic policy that no amount of management could have justified. But we now know what many people in Labour, including Shearer in this case, think (and still think) is a “good” idea.

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  9. bhudson (4,734 comments) says:

    some powerful bloggers behind it, intent on discrediting him.

    There’s the Left for you – it’s always someone else’s fault…

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  10. kowtow (7,631 comments) says:

    Labour should know.They benefitted from the media campaign against Don Brash ,post his excellent Orewa speech which could have made him PM.

    But our left wing media weren’t having that so they went all out to smear him.

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  11. OneTrack (2,604 comments) says:

    BeaB – “Will they always need a dominatrix to keep them in line?”

    Great line. And the answer seems to be yes. Helen Kelly seems to be their New Hope.

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  12. RF (1,272 comments) says:

    Perhaps Goof should read the Standard. This Labour rags blogs are about 80% against Shearer. Who needs enemy’s when your supposed friends hate you.

    Shearers problem is within the Party not right wing blogs who are very tame in comparison.

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  13. Simon (685 comments) says:

    Would say the real influence of WO & kiwi blog is that the sheeple think both are right wing.

    Were as in reality both, like that National Party, have more in common with Labour than any small government right wing platform.

    Highly successful bloggers with real talent but after all just tribal National party supporters running propaganda for Team Blue.

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  14. Steve (North Shore) (4,499 comments) says:

    Powerfull Bloggers? Well when you compare KB and WOBH to the nasty screaming wimps that support the left, then yeah, there is Power.
    “It’s not my fault, it’s the bloggers”! Hahahaha

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  15. Tauhei Notts (1,608 comments) says:

    Goff acknowledges an awful trend for the Labour Party.
    They have had the left wing journalists in their pockets for so long; – now worries.
    Then the statistics come out for Whale Oil and Kiwiblog; those statistics show the trend away from left wing journalists to correct thinking people. And, most importantly, the blogs are not beholden to the Labour Party. Also, the blogs tolerate and do not censor robust political debate.
    New Zealanders owe a debt of gratitude to messrs Slater and Farrar. But for phuck’s sake don’t tell them or they will never be able to buy a hat big enough.

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  16. Bad__Cat (137 comments) says:

    Redbaiter (3,964) Says:
    July 20th, 2013 at 10:10 am

    “I prefer Conservative bloggers, who really take the fight to the Progressives. (like Crusader Rabbit …..”

    Well, you would. After all, they deleted my post and banned me when I called you out there for bad mouthing KB bloggers.

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  17. adze (1,864 comments) says:

    Bat___Cat, if Redbaiter had any integrity in that decision, he would refrain from posting here, a “labour-lite” blog in his eyes.

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  18. Whaleoil (766 comments) says:

    interesting…so we are “powerful” bloggers….but how can that be…David Shearer doesn’t read blogs…remember, that was one of his most coherent sentences uttered ever.

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  19. Manolo (13,371 comments) says:

    Will the socialists ever decide to ditch Captain Mumblefuck? The poor guy is hopeless.

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  20. stigie (908 comments) says:

    Hope not Manolo, we need him there. ” The poor sod “.

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  21. jcuk (585 comments) says:

    kowtow (4,745) Says:

    July 20th, 2013 at 10:23 am
    Labour should know.They benefitted from the media campaign against Don Brash ,post his excellent Orewa speech which could have made him PM.

    But our left wing media weren’t having that so they went all out to smear him.

    Just as when ACT started up. The public wanted a far right conspiracy and they were fed the garbage.

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  22. wrightingright (138 comments) says:

    > Predecessor Phil Goff says Shearer – who was one of Goff’s advisers when he was Foreign Minister – has an inner toughness that people should not underestimate.

    > “He has been in situations that none of us have ever been in, which are life-and-death situations where you have to be tough to survive. He has some natural leadership skills that will serve him well.”

    Didn’t David Shearer just sit at a cushy desk job while filling up his secret overseas bank account?

    I feel this sounds a bit like Hillary Clinton’s “hail of bullets” in Bosnia.

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  23. RF (1,272 comments) says:

    wrightingright. 7.10pm. Don’t forget Shearer did fight off tribesmen by throwing mango skins at them. Very brave act that he still uses as his back story.

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  24. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    In a party controlled by radical hard line feminists you are never going to see a strong heterosexual male leader. They would never allow such an open display of male dominance, unless the male is suitably mild and unthreatening. NZ is one of the most radically feminised countries on earth and Shearer is now representative of the average kiwi bloke. A broken spirited mumbling weakling continually worrying about offending a woman.

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  25. Bogusnews (443 comments) says:

    Clarke was a master in manipulating the media and used her skills to blunt many of the things Don Brash did. I still remember the media deliberately misrepresenting his views on adoption after his second Orewa speech. They finally started doing their job when Labour had a bridge too far with the EFA.

    The real problem though is that the chickens are coming home to roost. For many years Clarke and co only selected candidates on whether they were sure votes for their agenda’s rather than on their talent. As a result we have no one left in there who have any ability.

    The second thing though is thank God for the bloggers. Consistently they are alerting us to things the media can’t or won’t mention.

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  26. RF (1,272 comments) says:

    Bogusnews. 8.36 am. The classic beat up was when an aircraft door lock failed in Clarks little twin prop aircraft and one of her DPS guys risked his life by bracing the door with his baton. Clark feared for her safety as she could have been sucked out.

    This was absolute shit. The aircraft could have flown with the bloody door missing. Clark was in more danger choking on a peanut than being sucked out. The cop received a commendation so I believe. Made world head lines so Clark was happy.

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  27. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Clarke was a master in manipulating the media…

    She was, but that manipulation was assisted by the fact that the media is so left leaning and bias against alternatives. The media decide who runs this country, not the voters.

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