Two more polls

July 22nd, 2013 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

I’ve blogged the latest two at Curiablog. A Roy Morgan poll and a 3 News Reid Research poll.

Both have National up and Labour down, and the 3 News poll has a huge 17.1% drop in the net approval rating for David Shearer. This is of course what those in his caucus briefing against him want – to damage him so badly, that a change is inevitable.

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This is the current average of the public polls.

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24 Responses to “Two more polls”

  1. Bob (445 comments) says:

    If David Shearer goes too low he might be replaced. The danger is results might be the same as Rudd and Gillard in Australia to National’s disadvantage.

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  2. Cunningham (846 comments) says:

    Shearer is lucky the earthquake hit and took away attention from this poll. The TV1 poll will be interesting. I assume it is next weekend? Another bad poll, another nail in the coffin for Shearer. Hard to see how he will be able to move on with this continued scrutiny of his leadership. Once it starts, it is hard to shake off esp when your colleagues are trying to undermine you.

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  3. duggledog (1,624 comments) says:

    The Labour Party really ought to do something. Trouble is – what? National have cut them off at the knees.

    And the head is busily cutting itself off

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  4. bhudson (4,741 comments) says:

    Well that shows what the public really think about:

    – Kim Dotcom / GCSB
    – NZ Power
    – Labour housing plan
    – Capital Gains Tax

    Labour might be best advised to cease and desist with the equine necrophiliac bestiality.

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  5. mikenmild (12,376 comments) says:

    Wow, that’s a bit more than flogging a dead horse…

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  6. Manolo (14,169 comments) says:

    How long will Captain Mumblefuck last? I reckon his days are numbered. Blood on the floor sooner than expected.

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  7. Griff (8,419 comments) says:

    Reddy and the rest of the conservonutters will be so encouraged by the result of the latest polls.
    !.4% is such a massive swing to the conservative right dont ya think :lol:

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  8. Kleva Kiwi (290 comments) says:

    Im still confounded by Labours ability to poll 30%?
    I mean is there really that many morons in NZ that wont wake up and smell the coffee…
    And they still poll ACT as not winning their seat, yet they think Dunne gets back in?

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  9. hj (7,165 comments) says:

    One of the biggest issues doesn’t make it into the public psyche and that is the negatives of Nationals policy of population increase. If the Savings Working Group call it out that is good enough for me. Unfortunately the up the food chain left leaning liberals don’t walk in the same shoes as the ordinary NZr. Why don’t they come up with a policy of free lattes (or something)?

    Let’s face it there is a block of people doing very well out of Nationals policies, also a large block of dummies who don’t know what is going on.

    A charsimatic leader has to have something to sell. National has wealth from realestate which benefits associated industries. Labour has a world brotherhood … (or something).

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  10. stigie (1,448 comments) says:

    Shearer is a good bloke and many here would agree, just a pity the factions are not united.
    The petty factions have alot to answer to. ” The poor sod “.

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  11. hj (7,165 comments) says:

    I have to say I still don’t get NZ First they haven’t mentioned the Savings Working Group Report… Are they only concentrated on the race angle?

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  12. Keeping Stock (9,380 comments) says:

    David Shearer has been granted a reprieve today, with Labour’s caucus retreat being canned. But given all the wishy-washiness that surrounds Labour and its leader, there’s a certain irony in the cause of the postponement; FOG. If that’s not an accurate metaphor for Labour at present, what is?

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  13. hj (7,165 comments) says:

    I think voters would like to choose policy before it is mangled by party self-selecting activists e.g do people who care about quality of life want a Delahunty or a political system based on a can of worms interpretation of “te tirrit”?

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  14. hj (7,165 comments) says:

    Labour suffers from the Clarke era… too many solo mums in the malls, too much excess. The beneficiary eclipsed the low paid worker and we saw the beginning of mass migration, house price increase, smaller sections, spin, the dismissive (teflon) answer on an exhaled breath: “I wasn’t smacked,..didn’t smack…,smack..”

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  15. Cunningham (846 comments) says:

    stigie he seems like a good bloke but let’s not forget he has morphed into a typical politician with his pathetic grandstanding and stupid political games. Every week he asks at question time ‘does the PM sand by all his statements’. It’s actually embarassing.

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  16. wreck1080 (3,999 comments) says:

    So, on a left vs right basis, there is not much in it.

    Imagine, a labour/green/maori/nz first multi-headed hydra all vying for the baubles of power.

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  17. dime (10,213 comments) says:

    “And they still poll ACT as not winning their seat, yet they think Dunne gets back in?”

    of course. they know the whore will go left if they come close to winning.

    lol @ NZ First. Id love to see them poll that number on election night. The media will do their best to recreate “the tea pot tapes” drama to get winnie over the line.

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  18. RF (1,488 comments) says:

    Years ago before I had the operation I was involved in our local Labour LEC. This was when Clark was the PM.

    It was obvious that the Labour party saw assisted immigrants as guaranteed members and moved heaven & earth to bring in their extended families.

    I was aware there was a directive from high up the chain that we should recruit immigrant families as they were “easy pickings”.

    Clark was cunning as a rat.

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  19. Reid (16,700 comments) says:

    Clark was cunning as a rat.

    As well as being corrupt as they come, RF. Remember Mary-Ann Thompson, of the false CV, who used to work in the PM’s office before she was transferred to Immigration, where she and a few of her mates used to stand over the immigration officers processing the applications for her PI rellys. You know what people are like by the people they surround themselves with.

    As I’ve said before, Clark deserves a prison cell rather than being fondly remembered by idiots as “the best PM NZ has ever had.”

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  20. Paulus (2,707 comments) says:

    Reid

    Remember Clark is back in New Zealand in about 10 days time, to give lectures on her omnipotent role in the (Corrupt) UN.
    Also to set Shearer up with a new UN job, and elevate Robertson to her old role – two queers together.

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  21. kiwi in america (2,314 comments) says:

    A poll number hovering around 30 prolongs Labour’s agony. The numbers are heading south which means the troops are restless about Shearer but they aren’t south far enough (yet) to jar the caucus into action or for Robertson, Cunliffe or Little to win the caucus vote – a vote that, despite Cunliffe’s standing in the party, would carry some clout when the wider membership votes.

    The next TVNZ poll may well have Labour’s support under 30 but it would have to be approaching 25% for the toppling to be accelerated IMO. Shearer will continue to hemorrhage undermined from without and within as Cunliffe’s people follow the Rudd playbook.

    My guess is they will wait for the next Roy Morgan and Fairfax or Herald poll. If they show declines (even modest ones) from both their last polls AND the average of all polls, caucus members will finally conclude he’s terminal. A rise in either poll buys Shearer time until the next round of TV channel polls.

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  22. Harriet (5,200 comments) says:

    “…..The Labour Party really ought to do something. Trouble is – what? National have cut them off at the knees…..And the head is busily cutting itself off….”

    The Greens cut off Labour’s hands by hi-jacking all their policy.

    They also gradually slice off the tongue of Labour by disagreeing with Labour’s public announcements.

    The Green’s have also performed a hysterectomy on Labour by taking the left leaning youth vote.

    They are now hovering above the labour carcus like carion birds ready to gorge on what’s left….and in the middle.

    Labour: Usefull Idiots. :cool:

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  23. wiseowl (975 comments) says:

    Can someone tell me why when the Conservative Party polls higher than others that they are listed at the bottom?
    And I realise they are not represented in parliament at present.

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  24. Colville (2,318 comments) says:

    wiseowl. I assume its coz Mana, UF, etc would win a electorate seat and pass threshold that way?

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