WCC still trying to delay flyover

July 8th, 2013 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

The Dom Post reports:

is again looking to slow the resource consent process for the Basin Reserve flyover.

The council has appealed to Environment Minister Amy Adams to have the consent application for the $90 million flyover heard by the Environment Court, rather than by an independent board of inquiry.

The minister has the power to appoint a board, which is required make a consent decision within nine months of public notification.

The Environment Court process can vary in terms of time, but history suggests it takes longer.

The law that is applied and the outcomes should be the same. But a board of inquiry is dedicated to one hearing, so you don’t suffer a backlog.

Wellington City councillor Iona Pannett said she had little faith the board process would allow for a proper debate.

All boards of inquiry established since 2009 had granted approval, suggesting they were little more than a government rubber stamp, she said.

Boards of inquiry and environment courts are not binary decision making bodies. They do more than say yes or no. They attach dozens, sometimes hundreds, of conditions to a resource consent.

“People opposed to the flyover should be very concerned, therefore, if the project goes to a board of inquiry. The risk is real that the project will be given the green light.”

That is not what most people call a risk.

Note that the Council has accepted there is actually not practical or affordable alternative to the flyover. Despite that some Crs are still trying to kill it off.

City councillor and mayoral aspirant John Morrison said the flyover needed to be fast-tracked through a board of inquiry. He was disappointed that certain members of council wanted to use the Environment Court as a “smokescreen” for stopping the flyover.

“It’s this endless Green Party attitude of ‘stop everything, do nothing’ and that’s simply what this is. I’m sick to death of it, and I believe the city is too.”

Mr Morrison, who also sits on the Basin Reserve Trust, said the ground desperately needed the $12m stand that would be built by the Government to soften the visual impact of the flyover.

The cricket ground was in real danger of losing its test match status soon if its facilities were not drastically improved, he said.

The Environmental Protection Authority, NZTA and Greater Wellington Regional Council have made submissions to Ms Adams, all saying the flyover should be considered by a board of inquiry.

I hope the Govt will listen to them, not the WCC.

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11 Responses to “WCC still trying to delay flyover”

  1. Rick Rowling (823 comments) says:

    This is why the Greens are effective oppositions and useless governments.

    BANANA by default.

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  2. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    Out with the utterly useless Luddite Wade-Brown!

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  3. flipper (3,765 comments) says:

    Quite frankly David, the most worrying comment you made above is :

    ” Boards of inquiry and environment courts are not binary decision making bodies. They do more than say yes or no. They attach dozens, sometimes hundreds, of conditions to a resource consent. ”

    This is a bullshit situation , and one that inevitably results in cost loadings that destroy proper cost/benefit decision making..

    So far as I and many others I know of are concerned, the whole environment court/board of inquiry procedure is a crock of shit that should be flushed down the nearest sewer. Moa Point, would be suitable.

    Bring on the fly-over, and curse Prendergast (Nicholls) because she was so arrogant in 2010 that she did not campaign.

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  4. RRM (9,603 comments) says:

    Pannett:
    The risk is real that the project will be given the green light something will actually be done to fix the chronic traffic congestion through that part of town.

    Fixed that for you, you vacuous, tree-hugging, pie in the sky waste of space.

    Morrison:
    It’s this endless Green Party attitude of ‘stop everything, do nothing’ and that’s simply what this is. I’m sick to death of it, and I believe the city is too.

    Yes.

    And that whole area is already a noisy, grimy, dusty, concrete hell hole dominated by busy roads.

    There is no “character”, there is no charm about the place.

    Who in their right mind would be against a flyover??

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  5. david (2,548 comments) says:

    RRM, by George you’ve got it in one. “Who in their right mind would be against a flyover??” That is of course the ultimate rhetorical question of the day.

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  6. Monique Angel (258 comments) says:

    Oil is baaaad. Roads are baaaad. It’s incredible how a population can be captured by this message. I think we need to reduce the quota of women councillors at WCC and this would also stamp out the prevalent communist leanings in council.

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  7. Peter (1,653 comments) says:

    Hear, hear RRM. What are they saving, exactly? The only redeeming feature *is* the cricket ground, and the general idea of a cricket ground is that it faces inwards towards the pitch.

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  8. insider (1,022 comments) says:

    It’s not surprising that no applications to boards fail. The amount of consultation these things have to go through first means that applications that go forward should only be those with a high chance of success. You wouldn’t expect slow runners in the Olympic 100m final.

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  9. labrator (1,820 comments) says:

    … Green Party attitude of ‘stop everything, do nothing’…

    This should be pulled out every time the Greens naysay something. When do they ever support anything unless it is taking other people’s money and suggesting it be spent on unproven “Green jobs” (as if that’s actually a thing)?

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  10. Bullitt (137 comments) says:

    I still don’t see the need for the flyover. There are two* lanes of traffic into the basin and at least two all around it. The blockage is at the tunnel not the basin. Fix that and see whether theres any problem, I bet there won’t be. Unfortunately I doubt I’ll ever get the chance to be proven right.

    *I know there are three lanes directly before it but they are fed by two lanes from Vivian street so the third doesn’t add to capacity.

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  11. insider (1,022 comments) says:

    @ bullitt

    The main reason for the flyover is to separate east west traffic from north south. This has long been identified as a priority in Wellington. The daily snarl up slows bus and car access along the main spine of Adelaide rd and Cambridge tce, and slows journeys along the bypass. You then have a choice of going over or under to achieve separation. Over is much easier and cheaper. One of the key benefits is freeing up public transport to and from Newtown. Car commuters don’t benefit much until a second tunnel is built.

    note the flyover is for traffic going towards taranaki st from the my Vic tunnel, not from Vivian st going east.

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