Youth Parliament Preview

July 15th, 2013 at 9:00 am by timshiels

As David has previously mentioned, the 2013 is to be held this Tuesday and Wednesday. I was lucky enough to be selected by the Hon. Michael Woodhouse MP to be his representative at the event this week. I am also lucky to have been given the opportunity to post here on Kiwiblog about the event.

On Tuesday, following a  formal welcome at Parliament, Youth MPs will go to their respective Select Committees to discuss the following topics:

  • Social Services- How can public expectations for social services be balanced against likely rising costs for these services
  • Health-Are young people taking enough responsibility for reducing and preventing substance abuse or should this be government’s role?
  • Transport and Industrial Relations- What are the barriers to young people entering employment across New Zealand workplaces and how can these be addressed?
  • Local Government and Environment- Should government restrict or permit private businesses profiting from conservation activities?
  • Education and Science- Compulsory vs. elective subjects in secondary schools – should subjects like science be compulsory?
  • Commerce- Purchasing online: supporting modern consumerism
  • Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade- Where should New Zealand’s international obligations lie – Pacific or wider afield
  • Justice- White collar vs blue collar offending: do current sentences reflect the economic and social impacts of these crimes?
  • Maori Affairs-  As more iwi move towards a post-settlement environment, how do rangatahi see the role of iwi in supporting the development of the next generation?
  • Primary Production-  Can New Zealand afford to be free range?

I am pleased to be in the Commerce Select Committee where we will be discussing a topic that is currently getting a lot of media attention. All the topics, however, are substantive and should lead to debate.

The main events of Wednesday are held in the Debating Chamber. Question Time will be held at 10.30 am and Youth MPs will have the opportunity to ask questions of Ministers.

Following Question Time, the Legislative Debate will be held (12.45pm). The Mock Bill, which would:

  • reduce the voting age from 18 years to 17 years
  • include electronic voting to the methods of voting
  • make voting compulsory for all eligible voters
  • extend the Term of Parliament from three years to four.

will be debated and then voted upon.

Following this, a General Debate on any topic of the Youth MP’s choosing will be held (3.20pm).

The day will conclude with Notices of Motion, put forward by Youth MPs (5.00pm).

If anyone wants to give feedback or ideas to the Youth MPs they can do so in the comments below, or by using the hashtag, #nzyouthparliament on Twitter or Facebook. Those in Wellington on Wednesday are invited to attend the public gallery, by following the normal process.

I will also be posting a summary of events at Youth Parliament later in the week.

Tags: ,

28 Responses to “Youth Parliament Preview”

  1. frankdb (150 comments) says:

    Aspiring to a life in politics? you need your head read young man.

    Vote: Thumb up 6 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  2. JeffW (327 comments) says:

    Reducing voting age to 17 and making it compulsory to vote are both about ensuring maximum voting percentages from people who don’t pay tax. Extension of the welfare state is fantastic if one doesn’t have to pay for it (actually, welfare is ruining many of its recipients, but that is another story).

    Vote: Thumb up 5 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  3. contheneo (27 comments) says:

    Will any of it be carried on inthehouse.co.NZ for those of us not in Wellington?

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  4. Manolo (14,086 comments) says:

    Why to encourage a new generation of aspiring troughers? Instead, they should be told to study hard, learn a profession and work in the real world for at least a decade.

    NZ doesn’t need any more parasitical Arderns, Hipkins, Hughes, Robertsons or Clarks. Enough of them already.

    Vote: Thumb up 8 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  5. Redbaiter (9,662 comments) says:

    “NZ doesn’t need any more parasitical Arderns, Hipkins, Hughes, Robertsons or Clarks. Enough of them already.”

    Or any more Nikki Kayes or Claudette Hauitis.

    Labour is just a collection of commies and National are their enablers. All cut from the same cloth, and the chances of there being a Ted Cruz or a Sarah Palin or a Nigel Farage amongst a group whose main identifier is a schoolyard ambition to be the PM is zero.

    John Key had such an ambition and look how he has turned out. We needed George Washington and we got Benedict Arnold. Even with all of the political capital he was given by voters when they kicked Clark out he did nothing but embrace socialism and progressivism almost as enthusiastically as Clark did.

    Nope, NZ needs a political saviour and he/she will not come from a pool of teenage political wannabees.

    My guess is that almost anyone who has graduated from the public school system and NZ’s universities over the last few decades is pretty much useless as a politician. Most likely all deeply indoctrinated with the compulsory tenets of cultural Marxism that are the hallmark of today’s political class.

    And their ambition to be an MP at such a young age automatically excludes them anyway.

    Vote: Thumb up 4 Thumb down 6 You need to be logged in to vote
  6. RRM (10,034 comments) says:

    :???: Ahem, did someone say something about training the next generation of troughers career politicians?

    For some reason a few of my school mates went and did the yoof parliament thing in our seventh form year.

    NONE of them had any interest in becoming politicians; then, or ever since. NONE.

    (I think the appeal was more a day off school to do something different, and a perceived possibility of hooking up with out of town chicks, plus in the ‘bright’ class you kinda felt like you ‘should’ do these things when they were suggested to you… )

    I hope ‘The wrongness of deranged political haters on the internet’ is a compulsory lesson for all the little student politicians :-P

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  7. slightlyright (94 comments) says:

    From memory the girl from my school who went spent most of her time in the chamber ringing expensive phone numbers from the Whip’s phones, not sure if she had Shane Jones seat or not

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  8. big bruv (14,165 comments) says:

    Master Shiels,

    I am sure that you are a very nice young man. However, what you are about to be a part of is a colossal waste of my time and my money.

    The best thing you could do is stand in the house when it is your turn to speak at this foolish gathering and tell the rest of the apprentice troughers that they have no right being in the house and that it is a complete and utter waste of tax payer funds.

    Nothing, I repeat nothing that you do this week will have any effect on the nation, what’s more the very fact that you as a person who has never paid tax should even think that you have a right to spend my money makes me wonder if you are not better suited to the Labour party.

    Make a stand master Shiels, tell your local MP that this “yoof parliament” is an abuse of tax payer funds and that you want nothing to do with it.

    Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  9. Pete George (23,688 comments) says:

    A great experience for those who are interested.

    The more people with more knowledge of how our democracy works the better.

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 4 You need to be logged in to vote
  10. flipper (4,241 comments) says:

    The whole exercise is a load off bullshit.

    So this is where we find the next generation of professional obfuscators, and liars masquerading as politicians and the chattering political class.

    Any one who participates in this charade needs psychiatric care. They have delusions of ….. well, many things.

    *** I will also be posting a summary of events at Youth Parliament later in the week.****
    Timshiels…. PLEASE don’t bother. In every respect, your time can be better spent.

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 3 You need to be logged in to vote
  11. flipper (4,241 comments) says:

    GEEEZZZZ…Big bruv.

    You nailed it. :)

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  12. timshiels (3 comments) says:

    Hi all,
    Thanks for your comments. I am a passionate advocate for engagement in the political process, and discussion of political views. This does not necessary mean standing for parliament- as all of you who read and comment on Kiwiblog will know!

    I think the issues being discussed tomorrow and Wednesday are important ones for NZ and anything that opens up these issues to discussion and debate is a good thing. I respect your right to not like it, but that is my considered opinion.

    flipper- don’t worry, I will not coerce you to read my posts.

    Vote: Thumb up 4 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  13. Manolo (14,086 comments) says:

    Master Shiels, what’s your political persuasion? What your political leanings and inclinations?

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  14. Pete George (23,688 comments) says:

    Good on you Tim.

    If any potential extreme right wing dictators emerge from it let them know they will probably find a bit of a fan club here, a forever frustated few.

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  15. timshiels (9,662 comments) says:

    Manolo- I am not sure that is relevant. But google is your friend if you really want to know.

    Vote: Thumb up 6 Thumb down 5 You need to be logged in to vote
  16. flipper (4,241 comments) says:

    KiwiblogDPF’s Kiwiblog – Fomenting Happy Mischief since 2003Home About Archives Blogroll Twitter Facebook

    ——————————————————————————–
    Search site
    Google
    Enter your search terms Submit search form
    InSPire Net Limited

    « Las VegasSuicide reporting »Youth Parliament Preview
    July 15th, 2013 at 9:00 am by timshiels
    As David has previously mentioned, the 2013 Youth Parliament is to be held this Tuesday and Wednesday. I was lucky enough to be selected by the Hon. Michael Woodhouse MP to be his representative at the event this week. I am also lucky to have been given the opportunity to post here on Kiwiblog about the event.

    On Tuesday, following a formal welcome at Parliament, Youth MPs will go to their respective Select Committees to discuss the following topics:

    Social Services- How can public expectations for social services be balanced against likely rising costs for these services
    Health-Are young people taking enough responsibility for reducing and preventing substance abuse or should this be government’s role?
    Transport and Industrial Relations- What are the barriers to young people entering employment across New Zealand workplaces and how can these be addressed?
    Local Government and Environment- Should government restrict or permit private businesses profiting from conservation activities?
    Education and Science- Compulsory vs. elective subjects in secondary schools – should subjects like science be compulsory?
    Commerce- Purchasing online: supporting modern consumerism
    Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade- Where should New Zealand’s international obligations lie – Pacific or wider afield
    Justice- White collar vs blue collar offending: do current sentences reflect the economic and social impacts of these crimes?
    Maori Affairs- As more iwi move towards a post-settlement environment, how do rangatahi see the role of iwi in supporting the development of the next generation?
    Primary Production- Can New Zealand afford to be free range?
    I am pleased to be in the Commerce Select Committee where we will be discussing a topic that is currently getting a lot of media attention. All the topics, however, are substantive and should lead to debate.

    The main events of Wednesday are held in the Debating Chamber. Question Time will be held at 10.30 am and Youth MPs will have the opportunity to ask questions of Ministers.

    Following Question Time, the Legislative Debate will be held (12.45pm). The Mock Bill, which would:

    reduce the voting age from 18 years to 17 years
    include electronic voting to the methods of voting
    make voting compulsory for all eligible voters
    extend the Term of Parliament from three years to four.
    will be debated and then voted upon.

    Following this, a General Debate on any topic of the Youth MP’s choosing will be held (3.20pm).

    The day will conclude with Notices of Motion, put forward by Youth MPs (5.00pm).

    If anyone wants to give feedback or ideas to the Youth MPs they can do so in the comments below, or by using the hashtag, #nzyouthparliament on Twitter or Facebook. Those in Wellington on Wednesday are invited to attend the public gallery, by following the normal process.

    I will also be posting a summary of events at Youth Parliament later in the week.

    Share this:EmailFacebookTwitterLinkedIn1MoreGoogle +1DiggRedditPinterestPrintStumbleUponTumblr
    Related posts:
    2013 Youth Parliament
    2013 Youth Parliament
    Youth Parliament
    Youth Parliament and Phil Goff

    Tags: Tim Shiels, Youth Parliament

    This entry was posted on Monday, July 15th, 2013 at 9:00 am and is filed under New Zealand, NZ Politics. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can skip to the end and leave a response. Pinging is currently not allowed.

    16 Responses to “Youth Parliament Preview”
    frankdb (131) Says:

    July 15th, 2013 at 9:04 am
    Aspiring to a life in politics? you need your head read young man.

    Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 0 JeffW (235) Says:

    July 15th, 2013 at 9:08 am
    Reducing voting age to 17 and making it compulsory to vote are both about ensuring maximum voting percentages from people who don’t pay tax. Extension of the welfare state is fantastic if one doesn’t have to pay for it (actually, welfare is ruining many of its recipients, but that is another story).

    Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 0 contheneo (10) Says:

    July 15th, 2013 at 9:24 am
    Will any of it be carried on inthehouse.co.NZ for those of us not in Wellington?

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 Redbaiter (3,919) Says:

    July 15th, 2013 at 10:06 am
    “If anyone wants to give feedback or ideas to the Youth MPs they can do so in the comments below,”

    Thank you.

    Here’s my comment.

    Get the hell out of my life.

    Vote: Thumb up 5 Thumb down 2 Manolo (10,439) Says:

    July 15th, 2013 at 10:13 am
    Why to encourage a new generation of aspiring troughers? Instead, they should be told to study hard, learn a profession and work in the real world for at least a decade.

    NZ doesn’t need any more parasitical Arderns, Hipkins, Hughes, Robertsons or Clarks. Enough of them already.

    Vote: Thumb up 6 Thumb down 0 Redbaiter (3,919) Says:

    July 15th, 2013 at 10:40 am
    “NZ doesn’t need any more parasitical Arderns, Hipkins, Hughes, Robertsons or Clarks. Enough of them already.”

    Or any more Nikki Kayes or Claudette Hauitis.

    Labour is just a collection of commies and National are their enablers. All cut from the same cloth, and the chances of there being a Ted Cruz or a Sarah Palin or a Nigel Farage amongst a group whose main identifier is a schoolyard ambition to be the PM is zero.

    John Key had such an ambition and look how he has turned out. We needed George Washington and we got Benedict Arnold. Even with all of the political capital he was given by voters when they kicked Clark out he did nothing but embrace socialism and progressivism almost as enthusiastically as Clark did.

    Nope, NZ needs a political saviour and he/she will not come from a pool of teenage political wannabees.

    My guess is that almost anyone who has graduated from the public school system and NZ’s universities over the last few decades is pretty much useless as a politician. Most likely all deeply indoctrinated with the compulsory tenets of cultural Marxism that are the hallmark of today’s political class.

    And their ambition to be an MP at such a young age automatically excludes them anyway.

    Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 4 RRM (7,574) Says:

    July 15th, 2013 at 10:55 am
    :???: Ahem, did someone say something about training the next generation of troughers career politicians?

    For some reason a few of my school mates went and did the yoof parliament thing in our seventh form year.

    NONE of them had any interest in becoming politicians; then, or ever since. NONE.

    (I think the appeal was more a day off school to do something different, and a perceived possibility of hooking up with out of town chicks, plus in the ‘bright’ class you kinda felt like you ‘should’ do these things when they were suggested to you… )

    I hope ‘The wrongness of deranged political haters on the internet’ is a compulsory lesson for all the little student politicians :-P

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 slightlyright (86) Says:

    July 15th, 2013 at 11:31 am
    From memory the girl from my school who went spent most of her time in the chamber ringing expensive phone numbers from the Whip’s phones, not sure if she had Shane Jones seat or not

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 big bruv (11,319) Says:

    July 15th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
    Master Shiels,

    I am sure that you are a very nice young man. However, what you are about to be a part of is a colossal waste of my time and my money.

    The best thing you could do is stand in the house when it is your turn to speak at this foolish gathering and tell the rest of the apprentice troughers that they have no right being in the house and that it is a complete and utter waste of tax payer funds.

    Nothing, I repeat nothing that you do this week will have any effect on the nation, what’s more the very fact that you as a person who has never paid tax should even think that you have a right to spend my money makes me wonder if you are not better suited to the Labour party.

    Make a stand master Shiels, tell your local MP that this “yoof parliament” is an abuse of tax payer funds and that you want nothing to do with it.

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 0 Pete George (18,354) Says:

    July 15th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
    A great experience for those who are interested.

    The more people with more knowledge of how our democracy works the better.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 1 flipper (1,903) Says:

    July 15th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
    The whole exercise is a load off bullshit.

    So this is where we find the next generation of professional obfuscators, and liars masquerading as politicians and the chattering political class.

    Any one who participates in this charade needs psychiatric care. They have delusions of ….. well, many things.

    *** I will also be posting a summary of events at Youth Parliament later in the week.****
    Timshiels…. PLEASE don’t bother. In every respect, your time can be better spent.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 flipper (1,903) Says:

    July 15th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
    GEEEZZZZ…Big bruv.

    You nailed it. :)

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 timshiels (2) Says:

    July 15th, 2013 at 2:10 pm
    Hi all,
    <<<<<<<<<<<>>>
    No coercion required, you silly boy. You would not be capable anyway.,

    If you cannot recognise that your whole exercise is a crock, An exercise ion self delusion, then you have major problem with your life-dimensional being. On the other hand, and probably with more benefits to you, you might be better trying an APPRENTICESHIP in, say, CARPENTRY (no respect to that profession).

    Go back to school sonny. Get a real life, a real life job. AND THEN, IN 10-15 YEARS time, start at the bottom of the political dung heap. Put yourself up for membership of an Electorate Executive, progress thru the regions, and THEN bid for a SEAT

    Until then, SHUT UP!.

    Good night, child.

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 4 You need to be logged in to vote
  17. Keeping Stock (10,443 comments) says:

    Have you had a bad start to the week Flipper? Chill out man…

    Vote: Thumb up 3 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  18. flipper (4,241 comments) says:

    Keeping Stock (8,977) Says:

    July 15th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
    Have you had a bad start to the week Flipper? Chill out man…
    ………………..

    Should not have watched the cricket this morning.
    So….Yes…
    Was a bit harsh, AND unjustly ad hominem. But I stand by the sentiment.

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  19. big bruv (14,165 comments) says:

    “I will also be posting a summary of events at Youth Parliament later in the week.”

    Please don’t bother Master Shiels. Nobody (save your Parents) could care less. I for one do not want to be reminded just how much of my money you are wasting.

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  20. Pete George (23,688 comments) says:

    Nobody (save yourself) can be spoken for by you bb. I’m interested in what the Youth Parliament does, It should be encouraged.

    Some here gripe about MPs unqualified for the job, well, learning something about it and participating should be a positive.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  21. big bruv (14,165 comments) says:

    PG

    “I’m interested in what the Youth Parliament does, It should be encouraged.”

    Well that’s a given. Considering that you are about the only living person who thinks that the independent MP Peter Dunne adds any value to our parliament it is not surprising.

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  22. Manolo (14,086 comments) says:

    I’m interested in what the Youth Parliament does, It should be encouraged.

    You live in a world of your own, a strange place inhabited by a whore with a funny hairdo and less than 500 minions, sycophants and yes-men.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 1 You need to be logged in to vote
  23. youngun (2 comments) says:

    I’m another Youth MP heading to Wellington for the event.
    I don’t really have an interest in pursuing politics in the future, at all. Instead, I’m interested in getting my fellow young people interested in politics: I think political engagement is incredibly important.
    I know that I’m someone who appeals to them because I’m not all about politics all the time, or at least I don’t seem to be. I’m more into sport and music. By talking to them about politics, and being an interesting face of it, so many more of my classmates have become interested, have learned a lot more about the workings of Parliament and the importance it has to them. I think that there is a success: a whole bunch of young people much more interested in Parliament then they would have been previously. They can pass this on.

    In terms of the Bill, I’ll be voting for it, for a mixture of reasons. It was particularly difficult to choose what to do in this Bill because it is the third reading of it, so we can’t make any changes. I want to vote for it to increase the conversation, and then we can look at the individual aspects of it, which we saw as follows:

    1. Everyone agreed they didn’t want to lower the voting age from 18. We like the way that 18 is the age of responsibility, we think it’s great. Unfortunately we can’t separate it out.
    2. Include electronic voting: Electronic voting sounds fantastic for appealing to a broader audience and making voting more accessible.
    3. Making voting compulsory: This generated the biggest discussion, but we generally agreed that having voting compulsory would lead to a larger variety of informed voters, and that can only be good for democracy. Think this needs more discussion though.
    4. Extending the Term of Parliament: Massive consensus for this. In the de-politicized environment of youth forums (where most of the young people didn’t have an interest before we talked to them) it is clear to us that it’s a good idea.

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  24. big bruv (14,165 comments) says:

    Youngun

    “I don’t really have an interest in pursuing politics in the future, at all. Instead, I’m interested in getting my fellow young people interested in politics: I think political engagement is incredibly important.”

    Nobody would disagree that political engagement is important. However, given your other comments I suspect you are of the left wing and thus see it as your right to spend my fucking money encouraging youth to get interested in politics.

    Vote: Thumb up 2 Thumb down 2 You need to be logged in to vote
  25. Pete George (23,688 comments) says:

    big bruv, Manolo – I’m fairly certain my political views are in synch with a lot more people than either of you two.

    @youngun

    I don’t really have an interest in pursuing politics in the future, at all. Instead, I’m interested in getting my fellow young people interested in politics: I think political engagement is incredibly important.

    Yes, political engagement of more people enables democracy to work better.

    That you don’t have an interest in pursuing politics is good, you’re best to experience the real world, in any combination of education, employment and family. But you might change your mind later.

    It took me half a century before I decided to get involved.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  26. Megan (12 comments) says:

    Well Done Tim, I hope you enjoy your time at Youth Parliament this week and can go away having had a great experience you can share with others as well as a good network of friends who will no doubt be top achievers in whatever they choose to do.

    To the rest of you negative commenters on here i’d like to take the time to express my disgust in your comments. Youth parliament is a rare opportunity that engages young people with politics. For many, it will be their first experience of both the positives and negatives that go with the territory.

    Foul language and personal attacks are some of the key turn offs for not only young people but also your average New Zealander taking an interest in politics. If in future we wish to have a healthy democracy with good public participation we should be encouraging these young people to operate in a decent and honorable manner not displaying the very poor behaviour that we should be striving to eliminate. Lets hope those young people reading this blog post and attending youth parliament can see the positives and look to a future of positive and principled policy making rather than the foul tit for tat you lot like to parade from behind your keyboards.

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  27. big bruv (14,165 comments) says:

    PG

    “big bruv, Manolo – I’m fairly certain my political views are in synch with a lot more people than either of you two.”

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

    You’re a supporter of the independent MP Peter Dunne, the political whore who only exists at the behest of the National party. The last survey showed that the party Dunne used to lead polled at .02%.

    Your views are shared by bugger all.

    Vote: Thumb up 1 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote
  28. big bruv (14,165 comments) says:

    Megan

    “To the rest of you negative commenters on here i’d like to take the time to express my disgust in your comments. Youth parliament is a rare opportunity that engages young people with politics. For many, it will be their first experience of both the positives and negatives that go with the territory. ”

    If it is so bloody valuable (a statement that cannot be supported in any way, shape, or form) then how about you pay for it?

    Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 You need to be logged in to vote