Herald report card on Ministers

August 11th, 2013 at 4:31 pm by David Farrar

The Herald has done a new report card on the performance of Ministers. Not online, but a photo is on Facebook. The summary of scores is:

  • Steven Joyce 9.0 (+2.0)
  • Bill English 8.5 (+0.5)
  • Chris Finlayson 8.5 (-0.5)
  • Tony Ryall 8.0 (-0.5)
  • Paula Bennett 8.0  (+1.0)
  • Murray McCully 8.0 (+1.0)
  • Anne Tolley 8.0 (+1.0)
  • Nick Smith 8.0
  • Tim Groser 8.0 (nc)
  • Simon Bridges 8.0 (+1.0)
  • Gerry Brownlee 7.0 (-0.5)
  • Judith Collins 7.0 (-1.5)
  • Jonathan Coleman 7.0 (-1.0)
  • Nikki Kaye 7.0
  • John Key 6.0 (-1.0)
  • Amy Adams 6.0 (-1.0)
  • Chris Tremain 6.0 (nc)
  • Hekia Parata 5.0 (+2.0)
  • Nathan Guy 5.0 (-1.0)
  • Craig Foss 5.0 (-1.0)

As always you agree with some of them, and disagree with others. I think most of them are pretty fair and Steven Joyce is definitely doing a great job. However I think it is beyond ridiculous to have the Prime Minister in the bottom quarter of Cabinet. National is polling better five years in than any other Government has ever managed – and no small part of that is because of the PM. With respect I think the Herald is too focused on issues that matter to them – but not to most New Zealanders.

The average or mean score was 7.2 out of 10, which is an increase of 0.4 from a year ago.

The median was 7.5, up from 7.0 a year ago.

If you take the 10 frontbench Ministers, their average is 7.4 out of 10, the same as a year ago.

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24 Responses to “Herald report card on Ministers”

  1. martinh (1,163 comments) says:

    I think chris finlayson should be above Bill.
    Bill announced the smelter deal was good certainty for the electricity market and then the mrp shares crashed

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  2. Harriet (4,614 comments) says:

    These sorts of things are silly. The Herald doesn’t kmow what is being said in the party room ect. This is just a reflection of what ‘is seen to be done in the parlimentry chamber’ where ‘consensus’ is seen to be the ‘ideal’, which then leads to the question:

    “What score does an independent MP get if they were in parliment and could not get any consensus, yet gave several of the most profound and internationaly acclaimed speeches?”

    And what score would the others like Joyce and Bennet then get? 5? 6? And what would that say about the pay that these people are getting from the taxpayer?

    This whole ‘report card thingy’ is just a reflection of the low standards that have been ingrained into the thinking of the NZ populace in the last 40yrs.

    Epic fail. :cool:

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  3. mikenmild (11,231 comments) says:

    I see they all score 5/10 or above. The whole class passing? Political correctness gone mad!

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  4. Reid (16,066 comments) says:

    Groser has always been under-valued and his performance over Fonterra underlines that. He should be level with Joyce.

    Key however is still over-valued, personally I’ve never rated him higher than a 1.5, since it’s quite easy to design and sell policies based on the popular option, somewhat more difficult to sell something that’s the correct thing but which the people don’t yet know it is. He had his chance for example to cancel tax cuts as a result of the GFC but his clear decision even before he took the job was to emulate Hulun’s approach but since he doesn’t have Hulun’s appalling level of Machiavellian cunning he has proved only capable of taking Hulun’s easier tactics and he’s left the harder ones quite by the side of the road. So in fact, on second thought, I’d give him a 0.5.

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  5. alwyn (397 comments) says:

    mikenmild @ 5.33pm

    David didn’t publish the other evaluation that the Herald did.
    They also rated the Opposition shadow cabinet. When they are put into the table they were all BELOW 5.
    Thus the median result turns out to be exactly 5.0 and it isn’t as politically correct as only giving the National results implies.

    Well that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

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  6. mikenmild (11,231 comments) says:

    alwyn
    And people here think that the Herald is some left-wing rag that’s anti-government!

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  7. Psycho Milt (2,348 comments) says:

    How does Key manage 6 out of 10? His portfolios are ongoing, longstanding clusterfucks. Issues involving the security services have been a weeping sore for over a year and, if there was a competent opposition, would be really damaging the government. Tourism is another disaster area, with falling numbers and our “100% Pure” slogan currently a laughing stock for international media. His office has just presided over egregious and embarrassing privacy breaches involving another minister as well as a journalist. As a minister, he’s a disaster – I’d rate him 2 out of 10 on current performance.

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  8. mikenmild (11,231 comments) says:

    Seeing the minimum score was 5 Psycho, 6 for Key ain’t that great.

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  9. alwyn (397 comments) says:

    mikenmild.
    The Herald anti-government? Surely you jest sir?
    Actually I’m sure that you will find people who would interpret the ratings published, and the ones I hypothesize, as being proof of that conjecture. Any value less than perfect is evidence of bias by the paper.
    There are suitably rabid enthusiasts I’m sure who would say that a correct rating would give 10 for every National minister and 0 for every Labour shadow minister.
    Equally, on the Standard, the equally rabid enthusiasts’ argument would be for 0 ratings for National, 10/10 for Labour and probably 12/10 for all the Green party MPs.

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  10. mikenmild (11,231 comments) says:

    I’m not sure I can imagine the Heral and the Standard as two ends of the same spectrum.

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  11. nasska (10,834 comments) says:

    A quick read of the “report card” shows it up for the farce that it is. Any table that has the incredibly competent Tony Ryall level pegging with the bumbling fool Nick Smith should be consigned to the toilet.

    Picking the scores out of one hat & drawing the names out of another would have produced a result of equal value.

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  12. mikenmild (11,231 comments) says:

    nasska
    How did you discover the Herald’s methodology?

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  13. Jack5 (4,785 comments) says:

    Finlayson’s way too high. After the sweetheart deal he negotiated for Ngai Tahu, he will now sign the top up he negotiated as other Maori settlements top the agreed figure.

    Finlayson is a list MP. He’s got as much public appeal as a Trappist monk.

    As a self-confessed celibate (albeit a gay one) he will be popular with about 117 New Zealanders.

    [DPF: AFAIK Chris had no role in the Ngai Tahu settlement. He has acted for Ngai Tahu in some legal cases when he was a lawyer, but don't think he had a role in negotiations]

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  14. nasska (10,834 comments) says:

    Just an educated guess mikenmild. :)

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  15. bhudson (4,736 comments) says:

    I see they all score 5/10 or above. The whole class passing? Political correctness gone mad!

    @mikey, Very good!

    As someone pointed out that the ratings for the Labour shadow cabinet are all less than 5, it is hardly surprising they are looking to entrench ‘equality of outcomes.’.

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  16. alwyn (397 comments) says:

    mikenmild.
    Hmm. That wasn’t quite the way I meant it although re-reading it I can see your interpretation.
    I guess I’m not clear enough in my exposition to make it as a professional comic.
    The rabid people I was meaning were some contributors to this site and the other extreme were rabid contributors to the Standard.
    Both kinds would regard the Herald, in the middle of the debate, as being biased.
    However I’ve got to go out so I won’t try to stretch the argument any further and I’ll stop right here.

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  17. NX (603 comments) says:

    I agree with DPF re: the Heralds low ranking of JK. You can’t complain about the National party’s strong performance & popularity.

    Perhaps JK’s low ranking reflects more on his performance in his specific portfolios such as SIS & tourism.

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  18. dime (9,607 comments) says:

    Lmao that will show em herald. Give jk a low rating

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  19. Fisiani (980 comments) says:

    Given the wealth of talent on the National back bench I look forward to 2024 when Goldsmith is Finance Minister and Paul Foster Bell is Foreign Minister. Amy Adams is PM and Mike Sabin is Police Minister.

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  20. bc (1,344 comments) says:

    Ha, ha Parata’s score goes up 2 points by being invisible – classic! Talk about out of sight, out of mind.

    National’s strategy of keeping her locked up in a cupboard (although she is allowed out on day trips when a token Maori is required) seems to be paying off!!

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  21. bc (1,344 comments) says:

    John Keys lower ranking at the moment is probably due to the handling of his portfolios. New Zealand’s 100% Pure image is taking a knock at the moment and all this GCSB business is hanging around like a bad smell.

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  22. wiseowl (798 comments) says:

    Harriet has it right.
    Silly exercise.
    Fail.

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  23. Jack5 (4,785 comments) says:

    Re DPF’s footnote on my 6.10 post. DPF’s memory is usually very good on Parliamentary matters, but this from Hansard of a Chris Finlayson speech on 16 November 2005 clarifies Finlayson’s historical relationship with Ngai Tahu. Finlayson said:

    For many years I was involved in Treaty litigation. In particular, I acted for Ngāi Tahu in its claim against the Crown. The proudest moment of my professional career was being at Kaikōura on 21 November 1997, when former Prime Minister Jim Bolger and Sir Tīpene O’Regan for NgāiTahu signed the deed of settlement

    [DPF: I stand corrected]

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  24. Rich Prick (1,604 comments) says:

    And the measurement criteria are … whatever prejudices Audrey holds. I do wish a perforated version of the Herald was available.

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