How about the other payout?

August 1st, 2013 at 12:00 pm by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

The widower of a victim of RSA killer William Bell has won a $60,000 payout from the Corrections Department.

Tai Hobson, whose wife Mary was one of three people slaughtered by Bell 12 years ago, relaunched his claim for compensation last year after Corrections made a $300,000 damages settlement with sole survivor . Couch was left for dead and partially paralysed in the attack by Bell.

The violent offender was on probation for aggravated robbery when he went on a rampage, killing club president William Absolum, 63, member Wayne Johnson, 56, and Mrs Hobson, a cleaner.

Yesterday, chief executive Ray Smith said his department had a moral obligation and confirmed Mr Hobson had accepted an “ex gratia payment”.

“Mary lost her life at the hands of a very dangerous and violent man who also killed two of her colleagues and left Susan Couch with horrific injuries,” he said.

That reminds me. Winston claimed he donated most of the $158,000 his party owed the taxpayer to a Susan Couch trust. Two of the three trustees were his lawyers. Someone should check up if Susan Couch has actually received a cent from the trust that bears her name.

UPDATE: A commenter has done some research and found that the trust has $86,000 in the bank and has paid Susan Couch $900 a year for two years.

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22 Responses to “How about the other payout?”

  1. peterwn (3,303 comments) says:

    This IMO raises the matter of intellectual property in names. AFAIK I could set up a David Farrar Trust Fund for my personal purposes, perhaps to invest in a David Farrar rest home. David probably could not do a thing about it unless it was a vehicle for defamation. Some years back some financial ratbags claimed copyright in their names and told NBR that printing their names would be a breach of copyright, but nothing came of it. So sometime in the future if (say) Jenny Shipley was found in a mess in the David Farrar rest home, and management tried to blame the senior nurses, could he tell the rest home to stop using his name?

    See:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/8988037/Senior-nurses-blamed-for-deficient-care

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  2. wreck1080 (3,956 comments) says:

    And, does anyone disagree that Bell deserved the death penalty?

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  3. lastmanstanding (1,300 comments) says:

    wreck1080 Agree and that an invoice for the cost of the bullet be sent to Bells family.

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  4. Viking2 (11,561 comments) says:

    Call a trust anything you like. Its the settlors etc that matter.

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  5. David Garrett (7,533 comments) says:

    That’s a very good question DPF….

    Viking: With all due respect to you – a fellow B and S of the High One I think – its the contents of the trust deed that are more important than the settlor, or what the trust is called…Did Peters ever produce a copy of that document?

    As for Bell, what an umitigated piece of evil that bastard is…It was all the worse for Tai because he had taken “the young Maori fulla” under his wing and shown him the ropes at the RSA….

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  6. Ross Miller (1,706 comments) says:

    David … be fair to Winston … he didn’t say the money was going to ‘that’ Susan Couch. He might just as well had a dog called Susan who needed a new couch … or perhaps SC was a new brand of whisky.

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  7. flipper (4,198 comments) says:

    DG, DPF et al ….

    Two issues here:

    1. Bell is an arsehole who will probably (should) die in prison, or emerge as a geriatric. (Cheaper option?)

    2. Peters ? The biggest arse hole, unless he shows us “the money” as going to “The Susan Couch”. Perhaps her legal counsel could confirm, No?

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  8. thedavincimode (6,869 comments) says:

    We have in effect absolute liability and criminal exposure for company directors where there is financial loss and there are to be criminal exposures arising from of unsafe workplace practice. We have a history of decades of unsafe and negligent practice on the part of social and justice agencies and medical institutions leading to death and injury. There is really no case to be made for not exposing those individuals who work in those sectors to the same types of sanctions.

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  9. David Garrett (7,533 comments) says:

    Well said DaVinci…and the reality – in my view at least – is that the Corrections Department only decided to “do the right thing” when a trial of Susan Couch’s matter was imminent, and they knew that all manner of disclosures were going to be made about the disgraceful and horrendous failures in the “management” of Bell….

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  10. flipper (4,198 comments) says:

    Davinie and DG..
    Excellent!

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  11. New Kiwi (8 comments) says:

    According to the latest return, the Trust had $86,369 in the bank at 31 March 2012. The Trust gave $907 to Sue Couch in 2010-11 and $968 in 2011-12.
    http://www.register.charities.govt.nz/CharitiesRegister/PublicAnnualReturn?nocId=6daf81c4-4bb8-e111-910d-00155d0d1916&charityRef=THE31818&accountId=63fd4199-6380-dd11-a406-0015c5f3da29&searchId=e118c7cf-1060-40f4-9f35-1e4d24d3d10e&nocRef=THE31818AR004

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  12. peterwn (3,303 comments) says:

    New Kiwi – So it seems that the money is now in never-never land never to see the light of day. Is there a ‘pro-bono’ lawyer out there who would like to bust the trust open and get the proceeds into Sue’s hands?

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  13. New Kiwi (8 comments) says:

    Sue Couch also received $1151 in 2009/10. The previous year, nothing except for the trust receiving $86,593.

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  14. thedavincimode (6,869 comments) says:

    That would suggest that Luigi spent 72k (which, strictly speaking is still “most” of the 158k as advised by the slimy low life slurring prick)

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  15. Viking2 (11,561 comments) says:

    DG. I bow to your much superior knowledge of these finer arts of deceptions. But you are right of course, wording is the key.

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  16. nasska (11,788 comments) says:

    I enjoyed David G’s response to the reporter when asked to comment on the payout to Mr Hobson. In this morning’s Dom Post he is reported as saying “Go away, go away”.

    At least that was something the scum weren’t able to twist, misinterpret or put their own spin on.

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  17. OneTrack (3,218 comments) says:

    The message is clear. If you want to donate money to someone, find out their personal bank account and bank it directly, without any shyster middleman creaming it.

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  18. David Garrett (7,533 comments) says:

    Nasska: did she really (accurately) report me as saying that? If so, She just guranteed that I will never speak to her…on anything… ever again…one of the great things about no longer being a poli is you need no longer to pretend to be polite to vermin…and so I am not…those who have a track record of slagging me or my party get a – polite if I can manage it – “go away”…those who give me a fair shake, and don’t do creative editing, I will speak to…sorry chaps if that sounds a bit grandiose…but Ms Vance is herself pretty grandiose in portraying herself as some sort of journalistic hero…she’s just another hack who learned her trade while employed by the now defunct News of the World….

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  19. nasska (11,788 comments) says:

    Page A3 of today’s paper DG. Full paragraph reads:

    ….” Mr Hobson did not want to comment last night. He referred questions to his lawyer, former ACT MP David Garrett, who said: “Go away, go away.”

    Obviously our delicate reporter was piqued by being denied the opportunity for a Page 1 headline attacking your good self. :)

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  20. David Garrett (7,533 comments) says:

    Nasska did she really write that?…Dumb and dumber…there is actually a fair bit still to play out on the “recompense for the actions of William Bell” story…she has just guaranteed that she won’t be privy to any of it…until everyone else knows…One of the great things about being an EX poli is you don’t have to kowtow to vermin…

    Oh and for the record, the slag didnt even report me accurately (now there’s a surprise)…there was only one “Go away…”

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  21. thedavincimode (6,869 comments) says:

    This is quite distressing and very disappointing.

    The appropriate response was : “Just fuck off”.

    DG has certainly let the public down here.

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  22. nasska (11,788 comments) says:

    Keeping in mind that the Dom Post is a family friendly rag Davinci, the appropriate response was probably: “Go forth, be fruitful & multiply.” :)

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