Was Shearer set up?

August 29th, 2013 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

This is unbelievable. 3 News reports:

If didn’t jump he was probably going to be rolled – that much, we already know.

But now it’s emerged that it wasn’t just a small faction inside the Labour Party that wanted him gone – it was his entire caucus.

In fact, every single one of them knew Mr Shearer was going to present two dead fish in Parliament last week, and no one stopped him.

They all knew? Not one Labour MP said that it was a massively bad idea? The poor bastard. They set him up. No wonder he is taking a few weeks off.

Whose idea was it? Will we find out?

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48 Responses to “Was Shearer set up?”

  1. Keeping Stock (10,414 comments) says:

    Shearer should tell the Labour Party where to shove Mt Albert. leave Parliament and get on with his life. It as absolutely appalling that NOT ONE member of the Labour caucus had the guts or integrity to try and stop him making a dead fish of himself; not even Grant Robertson who was lauded Matt McCarten at the weekend:

    Robertson has been a loyal deputy and has done nothing to undermine Shearer

    Good luck to whoever wins #Labour’sGotTalent; the Labour caucus is rotten to the core and completely dysfunctional, and the new leader will likely as not go the same way as the last two.

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2013/08/nice-show-of-support-labour-not.html

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  2. anonymouse (721 comments) says:

    With colleagues like that you can’t really see him wanting to remain “a loyal member of the Labour team and the MP for Mt Albert.” for much longer.

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  3. dishy (248 comments) says:

    And so we have Labour’s fresh constitutional proposal: collective irresponsibility.

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  4. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    “NOT ONE member of the Labour caucus had the guts or integrity to try and stop him making a dead fish of himself”

    Group think is in the left’s DNA.

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  5. Lipo (229 comments) says:

    What about his stupid question he asked John Key about if National had any meetings with the Labour party about the GCSB bill.

    JK even double checked with DS if he was sure he wanted to ask this one.
    This question seems more of a set up than the fish

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  6. Ian McK (237 comments) says:

    They are run by deviants, what can you expect!

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  7. David Garrett (7,533 comments) says:

    DPF: Of course the poor bastard was set up…he was set up to fail the day he was elected to lead a faction ridden rabble; a man with about four months more experience in parliament than I had! The tragedy is he couldn’t see the inevitable…

    Can someone remind me what the poor sod was trying to do with the two fish? I don’t watch the broadcast media any more…

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  8. Keeping Stock (10,414 comments) says:

    It’s nothing to do with group think Red; it’s more a matter of common decency. Even those whom he had placed in positions of trust were quite happy for him to go and make a fool of himself so that it would be easier to roll him.

    Sir Robert Muldoon often said that your real political enemies were the ones on your own team. Mr Shearer focused so much on those opposite him in the House that he ignored the threat to his left, his right, and behind him.

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  9. nasska (11,797 comments) says:

    It’s amazing that there are still three people whose ambition has overridden their survival instincts to an extent that they would actually seek the job.

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  10. Ross12 (1,454 comments) says:

    Agree with David G. It has been obvious for sometime that Shearer was being setup. The only difference on this occasion was that it worked. It took along time but they finally got there. Maybe we should questioning how bloody hopeless those underming him were given the time it took.

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  11. dishy (248 comments) says:

    DG: Shearer held up the fish and asked Key as follows:

    “Does-does he think it’s fair that a commercial fisher can catch a snapper as small as 25cm, but a
    recreational fisher has to go to 36. Is that fair?”.

    No, I didn’t get it either.

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  12. kowtow (8,755 comments) says:

    Cherchez la tricoteuse.
    Maryanne Street.

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  13. mandk (1,015 comments) says:

    Ever since I was at university many moons ago, it has amazed and amused me that the various factions on the left despise one another more than any of them hate the right wing.
    Monty Python got it right in the Life of Brain: “Are you the Popular Front for Judea?” “Fuck off, we’re the Judean People’s Front.”

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  14. Redbaiter (9,561 comments) says:

    “It’s nothing to do with group think Red; it’s more a matter of common decency.”

    Now you’re sounding like Peter Dunne.

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  15. Viking2 (11,562 comments) says:

    Wouldn’t it be great if he sat it out until about 4 weeks before the election and then decided not to contest the seat. Its would be nothing less than they deserve.

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  16. Chuck Bird (4,923 comments) says:

    It would be interesting to know if Shearer thought of the dead fish or someone else deliberately set him up.

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  17. David Garrett (7,533 comments) says:

    Dishy: thanks…Yeah, I get it, but it doesn’t really compare with Mabel Howard’s bloomers does it?

    KS: I think that quote was Churchill’s wasnt it? “Your opponents are the people in front of you. Your enemies are those behind you”…or something like that…

    mandk: aint that the truth? I am waiting for the PI secular rainbow faction of the Labour Party to step forward to support Robbo…that would be fun… of course there would quickly be a sectarian split, after which the SAMOAN secular rainbow faction, would hate the TONGAN SRF, and both of course would be at war with the faifekau led Free Weslyan Labour Faction…which would in turn hate the Church of Tonga Labour Faction…

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  18. Keeping Stock (10,414 comments) says:

    Quite possibly was DG, but I barely remember Churchill; he died when I was at primary school. I definitely remember Muldoon saying it though, maybe around the time of the aborted Colonels’ Coup.

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  19. dishy (248 comments) says:

    DG: On last night’s late news, they had asked a number of PIs from South Auckland who they would support as the new Labour leader. The answers given dispayed an open dislike for gay men. Apparently, of 40 people asked, only 2 supported Robertson.

    So anybody who claims that Robertson’s sexuality shouldn’t matter is wasting their breath. It does – and the rightness or wrongness of that is simply neither here nor there.

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  20. James Stephenson (2,223 comments) says:

    I think that quote was Churchill’s wasnt it? “Your opponents are the people in front of you. Your enemies are those behind you”…or something like that…

    AFAIK, it’s an apocryphal story of a conversation Churchill had with a newly elected Tory MP, taking his seat in the house.

    Newbie (looking across the house): So, that’s the enemy then.
    WS: No, that’s the opposition (points behind them) those are your enemies.

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  21. RightNow (6,995 comments) says:

    Robertson’s sexuality matters only to Labour voters.

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  22. radvad (772 comments) says:

    This could be all Shearer needs to start drip feeding a tell all about Labour’s rotten core. Lets hope so.

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  23. David Garrett (7,533 comments) says:

    Dishy: absolutely agree with your last para….but I am delighted the rabble thinks it doesnt matter!

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  24. Cunningham (846 comments) says:

    To be fair if he was so ‘intelligent’ as we are made to believe (the backstabbing Labour MP’s keep saying that), would he not work it out for himself??? I’m sorry but if he is stupid enough to do it without thinking ‘is this a good idea?’ then he only has himself to blame.

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  25. RRM (10,009 comments) says:

    In fairness to David Shearer, he made the same choice I would have.

    (I’d rather be in my shed working on an MGA roadster, than in caucus with the Labour Party. )

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  26. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (894 comments) says:

    Keeping Stock (9,100) Says:
    August 29th, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Shearer should tell the Labour Party where to shove Mt Albert. leave Parliament and get on with his life. It as absolutely appalling that NOT ONE member of the Labour caucus had the guts or integrity to try and stop him making a dead fish of himself; not even Grant Robertson who was lauded Matt McCarten at the weekend:

    Robertson has been a loyal deputy and has done nothing to undermine Shearer

    Don’t you know Matt McCarten’s upper chamber is empty?

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  27. jaba (2,146 comments) says:

    if only John Key would offer Shearer a list position for the Nats (better still stand for National in Mt Roskill) .. now that would be great

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  28. Akaroa (581 comments) says:

    Dishy at 3.34 posted, inter alia: “…….The answers given dispayed an open dislike for gay men……”

    I find that comment very interesting. And, no, I am neither gay nor am I homophobic. (If its anyone else’s business, that is!!)

    But I have always suspected that if one could ascertain the true, private, and rarely-if-ever-stated, opinions of many members of the public at large about homosexuals and homosexuality it may turn out that those opinions are not too far removed from the comment quoted above.

    The sexual-orientation-enlightenment professed by many in today’s enlightened society is often only superficial.

    (Apologies for going off topic, btw, but I felt the need to comment on Dishy’s post)

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  29. s.russell (1,646 comments) says:

    I think this is actually a little unfair. What made Shearer’s performance ridiculous was the way he used the fish – holding up one in each hand. Other MPs were not to know that he would make such a sprat of himself. He could have used those fish in a more tasteful way (with a little lemon pepper?).

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  30. Reid (16,632 comments) says:

    In fact, every single one of them knew Mr Shearer was going to present two dead fish in Parliament last week, and no one stopped him.

    Shows how nasty the entire caucus is, doesn’t it. What a disgusting bunch of people.

    And idiots people still vote for them. And not only that, they do so because they think that Liarbore MPs are the only politicians who care about others. Talk about turkeys voting for Thanksgiving.

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  31. OneTrack (3,221 comments) says:

    Or, maybe, the reality is they all thought it was a good idea.Thy didn’t click that they were really saying fu to all the kiwis who were and are more interested in fishing than the beltway GCSB issue. Well the progressives know better than those rednecks, don’t they. So I think the Labour Party DID think it was a brilliant idea. To stick it to John Key. That would show him. They probably still do.

    But then Shearer made the real mistake of having a discussion with Key without the Leader of the Opposition being present. That was getting above Shearers station in life. That is why he was fired.

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  32. KapitiCoast (114 comments) says:

    “Ever since I was at university many moons ago, it has amazed and amused me that the various factions on the left despise one another more than any of them hate the right wing”….the trouble with the left thinking/ideology is that ‘if you are on my side you must agree with everything ‘we’ do/think, and if you don’t, well you are really not on my side are you’….in a homogenous well run party this is mainly true, perhaps 95% of party policy/thinking is agreed to, the 5% may want a tweak here and there, but Labour it’s my way or the highway it seems and not homogenised but a separate group of 3-4 (feminists/gays/unionists/normal) all held together with red duct tape under the Labour flag and this tape is splitting and the next month will be a right leaning voters delight to watch and hear….pass the popcorn!

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  33. Black with a Vengeance (1,865 comments) says:

    Who gives a flying fuck…Shearer is fish wrapped in yesterdays newspaper.

    Moving right along…

    CUNLIFFE FTW!!!

    Yes you nutjobs should be scared…

    …and if you’re not it’s cos you’re too stupid to know better.

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  34. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    I am literaly shaking in my shoes NWA. The guy’s first words of his campaign were an enormous lie – he lives in New Zealand’s richest suburb because it is better for breastfeeding… LMAO a true comrade – Herne Bay mansion

    yup JK will be shitting himself

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  35. Black with a Vengeance (1,865 comments) says:

    I’m gonna file you under the, ‘to stupid to know better’ file, nickb.

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  36. cha (4,078 comments) says:

    he lives in New Zealand’s richest suburb because it is better for breastfeeding…

    Of course you’ll be able to cite a source for this claim..

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  37. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    I’m gonna file you under the, ‘to stupid to know better’ file, nickb.

    I’m so disappointed I don’t possess your political insight NWA. I am sure the millionaire mansion owner from Herne Bay who moved from New Lynn because women can’t breastfeed there is sure to be a great hit with the Waitakere Man.

    Of course you’ll be able to cite a source for this claim..

    Try any of the 50 MSM articles on this cha, you wilfully blind chimp.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11114489

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  38. cha (4,078 comments) says:

    Wow!, his wife worked in the inner city so they and their young family moved to a more convenient location. Fucking earth shattering.

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  39. nickb (3,696 comments) says:

    Of course cha, no big deal. But why lie and make up a ridiculous reason like breastfeeding when their eldest child was 10 at the time?

    What a slimy tosser.

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  40. nasska (11,797 comments) says:

    I’ve heard of late weaning & we all know that breast is best. For all that, ten years at the tit seems to be a bit excessive. :)

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  41. Reid (16,632 comments) says:

    It was in the news a few days ago cha.

    His environmental lawyer wife found it more convenient, you see.

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  42. Rex Widerstrom (5,354 comments) says:

    nasska suggests:

    ten years at the tit seems to be a bit excessive

    Must we bring Peter Dunne into everything, nasska?

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  43. lofty (1,317 comments) says:

    Oh c’mon Nasska..I am 60 and still having a hack at the tit…what’s wrong with that? Weaning can be a long process.

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  44. RightNow (6,995 comments) says:

    I’m on my twelfth wet nurse.

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  45. itstricky (1,880 comments) says:

    I’m so disappointed I don’t possess your political insight NWA. I am sure the millionaire mansion owner from Herne Bay who moved from New Lynn because women can’t breastfeed there

    Yeah, he is in the “too stupid to know better” category BWAV

    This from the other DPF post about a 2008 Listener article. Also quoted by “SW”

    He won Titirangi in the 1999 election, retaining it under its new guise of New Lynn in 2002 and 2005, even though he had moved to a well-to-do inner suburb. He and Price have two sons, William and Cameron, and he says the shift eased matters – it was “not manageable for her to do the commute and her duties as a mum”.

    The right facing commentators fascination with hacking down a guy who has done good for himself and lives in a well to neighbourhood just because they don’t agree with his beliefs is funny. Can you imagine hacking down JK in the same way?

    Clearly Cunliffe is the right man for the job because they’re clambering over each other to cut him down.

    PS. The “Waitakere Man” knows how long it takes to commute from way out West into town, I’m sure…

    Revelation!

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  46. Duxton (657 comments) says:

    Shearer “could have used those fish in a more tasteful way (with a little lemon pepper?).”

    Given the predilections of most of Liarbour’s female MPs, perhaps he was using them as air fresheners?

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  47. Mobile Michael (463 comments) says:

    Never realised the Labour Party were such fans of The Godfather – “It’s a Sicilian message, he sleeps with the fishes now.”

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  48. RRM (10,009 comments) says:

    I heard archaeologists are still divided over whether Waitakere Man even existed?

    All the evidence that has been found so far is a few fragments of a fossilized skull with a sloping forehead and prominent brow ridge… hardly conclusive I would have thought.

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