120 years of women’s suffrage

September 16th, 2013 at 7:00 am by David Farrar

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Produced by and the MWA. The 120th anniversary is on the 19th. Proud NZ was the first full country to given the vote. Sad that some countries still treat as second class citizens.

In the last 60 years, the stats changes have been:

  • Women in Parliament from 5% to 34%
  • Working-age women in employment from 25% to 58%
  • Percentage of tertiary students that are female from 24% to 56%
  • Average age at first birth from 23 to 28
  • Average number of children from 4 to 2

 

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56 Responses to “120 years of women’s suffrage”

  1. Doctor Who (52 comments) says:

    Most women are peanut-brained.

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  2. big bruv (13,571 comments) says:

    Yawn.

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  3. nasska (10,917 comments) says:

    That revelation is going to curdle the milk for the ‘keep them barefoot, pregnant & chained to the sink’ troglodytes who comment here. :)

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  4. spector (180 comments) says:

    “Most women are peanut-brained.”

    In my experience, I haven’t found stupidity to favour one gender over another. Stupidity also embraces all races, religions, social groups and doesn’t discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation. Stupidity is an equal opportunity employer.

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  5. bc (1,355 comments) says:

    Lol Spector – ain’t that the truth!
    Rather obvious trolling from Doctor Who & big bruv.

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  6. MT_Tinman (3,055 comments) says:

    120 years of men’s suffering.

    Why would you celebrate that?

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  7. Andrei (2,532 comments) says:

    You left left out number of children in sole parent families from less than 2% to 27%.

    Be interesting to figure out how the increase in the number of women who now earn their living as whores sex workers.

    The thing about all this ra ra about how women have advanced is that it is true middle class airheads like Jacinda Ardern and Nikki Kaye have done well out of all this progress but poor women have actually been screwed big time by feminism

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  8. kowtow (7,955 comments) says:

    Yes let’s celebrate and the “logical” extension of that celebration is things likes the looney Green co leader policy,mandatory female deputies,the so called man ban,legislated quotas on boards etc.

    The extension of votes for women was part of the broader move towards the universal franchise and as such was probably a good thing.

    The problem is that women have become identified as a “victim” group in society who must be legislatively protected and given extra rights beyond the rest of society…..that is a bad thing and is not something to be “celebrated”.

    In fact this blog spends a lot of time mocking not celebrating certain pro female policies(man ban), when it suits,as it is now labour policy.Feminism is a progressive policy and must be resisted by right minded people.

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  9. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    The battle for equality has not ended people. Women are still under represented in: work place deaths, suicides, rates of imprisonment, massively under representated as victims of violence and murder, are not failing at school at rates equal to men, heart disease…

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  10. Nigel Kearney (919 comments) says:

    Kea,

    More men are in prison because they make worse choices.
    More men being in boardrooms is obviously due to discrimination.
    Mary has better spelling and grammar than Johnny because she works harder and is more conscientious.
    Johnny beats Mary at chess because of gender role conditioning by society and the media.

    I could go on but I’m sure you get the idea.

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  11. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Nigel Kearney, more men are in boardrooms because they make better choices and work harder and are more conscientious, and because they want the job ?

    Equality is about freedom to choose, not about making the same choices.

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  12. kowtow (7,955 comments) says:

    MWA is Ministry of Wimmins’ Affairs

    Now there’s a great use of taxpayers’ money.

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  13. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Nigel..
    You don’t seem to have been to a NZ primary school recently..The discrimination against boys is number one on the agenda..We encountered the same tosh in a British type school overseas.
    The so called NZ education system does a terrific job in preparing boys for the prison system. It is a win win all round.

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  14. Harriet (4,616 comments) says:

    “…More men are in prison because they make worse choices…”

    More sons are in prison because their mothers made worse choices!

    All prisons in the WEST are mostly filled with young males who have spent little or no time with their natural fathers.

    The mothers are single/divorced females. The teachers are female. The police are female. The lawyers are female. The judges are female. The prison officers are female.

    And it will be females in government and academia who will get to decide what is done about the problem.

    Anything else is sexist y’know! :cool:

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  15. LabourDoesntWork (286 comments) says:


    Women in Parliament from 5% to 34%
    Working-age women in employment from 25% to 58%
    Percentage of tertiary students that are female from 24% to 56%
    Average age at first birth from 23 to 28
    Average number of children from 4 to 2

    These are all negatives. Western civilisation is no longer being built. Meanwhile, the morally vain hitch their wagon to whatever trend is going and claim it’s good.

    That’s “progressives” for you.

    People who literally value more the work of women office workers than those who take time to raise their own family. Yes: we need more women shuffling papers, than birthing and raising children, despite all evidence of what is civilisationally essential, not to mention of greater human value.

    The epitaph of Western civilisation:
    THEREFORE, IMPORT MORE MUSLIMS.

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  16. Jack5 (4,906 comments) says:

    Congratulations girls!

    But now women are an increasing majority in tertiary education it’s time to correct the overswing.

    Boys are being trashed by feminised primary education. It’s times boys got a break in primary schools. There should be an end to this anti-male discrimination.

    With the not unassociated rise in single-parent families (as Andrei pointed out at 8.06) more men are needed as primary teachers to provide male roles.

    Another sector where feminisation hasn’t been overwhelmingly successful is the MSM. The old daily newspapers, now carrying big quotas of cougars, have a helluva lot of space filled with emotional issues, multiculturism, soft-leftism, mild-greenism, and indeed self-reporting of girly lives and experiences. It’s as though the Woman’s Weekly etc have become the Woman’s Daily.

    And how, after what has been achieved, can departments of women’s studies be justified in current taxpayer funded universities?

    State-run Radio NZ, too, if it wasn’t for Gentleman Jim in the afternoons, would seem like an electronified branch of the old Women’s Division (of Federated Farmers!)

    Women’s lives have mainly improved. But, as Andrei pointed out above, family lives have not yet fully adjusted to the change, and without healthy family structures, a country is stuffed.

    From this it’s interesting to look at the life of the feminists’ hero, Kate Sheppard, who led the feminists and anti-prohibitionists to obtain (rightly) the vote for women in NZ. Isn’t it a fact that she moved like a cuckoo into the home nest of a large Christchurch Victorian family and deposed both wife and children to nail her man?

    No doubt things had to change, but let’s not overlook the cost as we celebrate the benefits.

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  17. gump (1,553 comments) says:

    The witless bleating in this discussion is a sad commentary on the Kiwiblog readership.

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  18. Jack5 (4,906 comments) says:

    Gump (9.55), stick to your knitting, or is it crochet? The girls don’t monitor Kiwiblog’s general thread.

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  19. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Jack5, the funny thing is the gumps of this world are famously unlucky with the ladies. At the end of the day women don’t respect door-mats anymore than we do :)

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  20. RRM (9,667 comments) says:

    This is gonna be a great thread. I’m looking forward to some classic kiwiblog right here. :-)

    Here are some house rules to make the points scoring more orderly. Complete sentences only please:
    Wimmin – 1 point
    DPB – 1 point
    University – 2 points
    Dykes – 3 points
    Bull Dykes – 4 points
    Religion – 5 points
    Morality – 5 points
    Whores – 6 points
    Sluts – 8 points
    Feminazis – 10 points
    Prog indoctrination – wins the game.

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  21. kowtow (7,955 comments) says:

    labourdoesn’twork

    Epitaph.

    Nailed it .

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  22. Mary Rose (393 comments) says:

    >All prisons in the WEST are mostly filled with young males who have spent little or no time with their natural fathers.

    What a lovely touchy-feely, progressive apology for criminals. ‘Poor lad couldn’t help bashing his victim after downing a bottle of vodka. It was all the fault of his mummy for not marrying his dead-beat father.’

    But that’s where the ‘feminisation of society’ leads you. A more-violent society. Because – er…? Sorry, I give up trying to work out the logic.

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  23. Doctor Who (52 comments) says:

    Mary Rose – Peanut Brain.

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  24. Jack5 (4,906 comments) says:

    To RRM, who obviously has skipped his feminist studies tutorial this morning, we must concede there’s one great benefit of the feminist revolution for men. This is s overlooked by both feminists and skeptics.

    It’s a helluva lot easier for a young, unattached guy to get free sex these days. Overwhelmingly this will be with girls, but even the gays seem to have benefited from the softer codes that feminisation has brought.

    So, all round, guys can thank feminists for turning on the tap.

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  25. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Mary Rose, last time I checked it was the women playing the victim card and pleading for special law applicable only to them.

    Jack5, good point and not just the young ones either. What is harder is building a stable long lasting relationship. If you just want to get laid, and have reasonable social skills, no problem.

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  26. Mary Rose (393 comments) says:

    Kea – sure, there are women who play the victim card.
    But threads like these always seem filled with men whining about how hard done-by they are.

    I suppose that’s equality.

    Dr Who: hard to argue with an intellectual comment like yours.

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  27. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Mary Rose, we moan and bitch on blogs and that is about it.

    Women demand, and receive, from government, special privilidge marginalising men. I suggest a more progressive approach, starting with correcting the mistake of giving women the vote. Do you like my idea ?

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  28. Mary Rose (393 comments) says:

    I can’t say I’ve ever felt especially privileged.
    But would I like to be marginalised? Think I’ll pass on that one.

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  29. Doctor Who (52 comments) says:

    Peanut Brain, the argument you admitted you didn’t grasp was that boys need effectual fathers and generally only biological fathers will bother making the effort and sacrifice.

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  30. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Mary Rose , guess I won’t get your vote then, but that is the beauty of my system, I would not get it anyway ;)

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  31. Mary Rose (393 comments) says:

    Man With Limited Vocabulary: If you are addressing me, I know the point being made. Doesn’t mean I accept it.

    My original point was sarcasm at someone on here making excuses for criminals.

    If boys can’t learn right from wrong without a man in their lives, that’s pathetic.

    And if a ‘softer’ society is breeding violent boys, that’s illogical.

    Kea: I’d like to stay and chat, but I have to get back into the kitchen ;-)

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  32. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    And if a ‘softer’ society is breeding violent boys, that’s illogical.

    Mary Rose, try not using womens logic. Doctor Who addressed that point. Boys do not always respond to the softer approach. That is not to say that unusually harsh treatment is required, but there is a middle ground. It is all a bit complicated so why don’t you just go and prepare lunch :)

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  33. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Oh… I just noticed she bet me to it. So much for my attempt at living up to my “troll” title ;)

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  34. Doctor Who (52 comments) says:

    It’s not pathetic, Peanut Brain, it’s nature, that boys need fathers to grow into men, as a rule. Men are by nature violent, or at least intrinsically aggressive, that’s the point, little Peanut. Look at the world around you. It’s civilisation and family that tames them, not a couple of lesbian mothers or whatever.

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  35. kowtow (7,955 comments) says:

    Mary Rose (good English name)

    don’t get too bothered by kea.There’s a body of opinion here that consider him/her to be a troll and in that she is in fact a woman masquerading as a Syrian male.

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  36. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    kowtow , very kind of you to tell Mary what to think. I am sure she will thank you for it later.

    Note: I would not call a bunch of two faced hypocrites and christian extermists “a body of opinion”. A “cabal of ignorance & hate” might be a better term.

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  37. Doctor Who (52 comments) says:

    I don’t think kowtow means “body” in any corporeal sense. Kowtow is the ghost of the Holy Trinity.

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  38. Psycho Milt (2,368 comments) says:

    Most women are peanut-brained.

    In light of your later comments, that one’s remarkably ironic.

    Here are some house rules to make the points scoring more orderly.

    You left out “progressives” and “Muslims.” No suggestions re points, but anyone who shoe-horns Muslims into this thread really does deserve some credit for ingenuity…

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  39. Harriet (4,616 comments) says:

    “……And how, after what has been achieved, can departments of women’s studies be justified in current taxpayer funded universities?…..”

    They can’t be – just look at what these courses have done to women:

    Anything you study at uni that ends with ‘studies’ is mostly taken by women, are near worthless, and the only employment possabilities are low paying and meaningless public service jobs. Student loans need to be paid back, which places women right back at square one: an inability to get mortages from the banks!

    The joke is on ‘educated’ women! :cool:

    Mary Rose is probably one.

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  40. Lance (2,565 comments) says:

    @Doctor Who

    Fuckwit

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  41. Doctor Who (52 comments) says:

    Are you a human father, Psycho, or does Milt mean you are a fish?

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  42. kowtow (7,955 comments) says:

    The KB “Dr Who” has a tardis brain, only in reverse.

    Looks normal from the outside but inside is empty.

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  43. Doctor Who (52 comments) says:

    Kowtow to one of the gods that exist only in a hole in your brain you call a soul, but shows on scans as near or where orgasms occur.

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  44. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Mary Rose…you haven’t got any logic.

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  45. Kea (11,878 comments) says:

    Here is a real womens rights issue, unlike our first world problems. FFS :(

    Sanaa, Yemen (CNN) — Yemen’s human rights minister wants child marriage outlawed after an 8-year-old girl reportedly died of internal injuries that she suffered on her wedding night.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/15/world/meast/yemen-child-bride/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

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  46. Psycho Milt (2,368 comments) says:

    And how, after what has been achieved, can departments of women’s studies be justified in current taxpayer funded universities?

    There aren’t any taxpayer-funded universities in NZ. There are partially taxpayer-funded universities, though. Also, there generally aren’t departments of women’s studies – it’s usually taught from within a social sciences department like sociology or anthropology. As to your question, they can succeed or fail in justifying themselves according to whatever criteria the individual university applies. Several universities are still offering qualifications in women’s studies, so obviously some are still justifying themselves.

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  47. Psycho Milt (2,368 comments) says:

    Anything you study at uni that ends with ‘studies’ is mostly taken by women, are near worthless, and the only employment possabilities are low paying and meaningless public service jobs.

    You seem to have confused universities with polytechs. Universities don’t exist to provide people with employment training.

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  48. Andrei (2,532 comments) says:

    You seem to have confused universities with polytechs. Universities don’t exist to provide people with employment training.

    Ivory tower elitism at its finest – besides its not true, Why do people go to university to study Medicine, Engineering, Law, Surveying, Dentistry etc if it isn’t because they aspire to careers as Doctors, Engineers, Lawyers, Surveyors, Dentists and so forth.

    The “Studies” subjects are actually all just aspects of Marxist “studies” and are courses in post modernistic nonsense

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  49. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    “Universities don’t exist to provide people with employment training.”

    For sure since they fell under the control of the left. They don’t even provide an education.

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  50. nickb (3,675 comments) says:

    This is somewhat off-topc but I completely agree with Redbaiter’s sentiments above. Universities these days, particularly in the areas of humanities and social science, teach you what to think about instead of how to think.

    I will give you but one example of hundreds of similar (if smaller) examples during my university education. I enrolled in an elective history paper about early relations between Pakeha settlors and Maori. I am thinking this will be an interesting journey through Abel Tasman, Kupe, Captain Cook etc through to the mid-1850s.

    It turns out after enrolling that class is not in a lecture theatre (as you would be forgiven for thinking) but rather in the Campus Marae, where we have to sit on the hard floor and take our shoes off when entering.

    I am greeted upon entering the Marae for the first time with a life-sized poster of Tame Iti in the middle of the room. The entire first lecture covers the heinous nature of the Ruatoki / Tuhoe terror raids and how this has irreparably damaged race relations in NZ. We are also told the benefits and virtues of Tuhoe seceding from NZ to become an independent state. During the whole course we learnt about nothing that could be considered even remotely connected to early settler relations like the course name suggested.

    I find my naivete that I would actually be receiving a balanced course on NZ history quite funny in retrospect.

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  51. Lance (2,565 comments) says:

    @Red
    My surgeon and anesthetist seemed to know what they were doing. Maybe it was just luck?

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  52. SGA (959 comments) says:

    Harriet (2,430) at 12:11 pm
    Anything you study at uni that ends with ‘studies’ is mostly taken by women, are near worthless, and the only employment possabilities are low paying and meaningless public service jobs.

    Andrei (2,184) at 1:59 pm
    The “Studies” subjects are actually all just aspects of Marxist “studies” and are courses in post modernistic nonsense

    I now have a fresh insight into what’s involved in Religious Studies (http://www.otago.ac.nz/courses/subjects/rels.html) and Biblical Studies (http://www.otago.ac.nz/courses/subjects/bibs.html). Thank you.

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  53. Redbaiter (8,032 comments) says:

    “My surgeon and anesthetist seemed to know what they were doing. Maybe it was just luck?”

    Probably trained in Singapore.

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  54. Psycho Milt (2,368 comments) says:

    Why do people go to university to study Medicine, Engineering, Law, Surveying, Dentistry etc if it isn’t because they aspire to careers as Doctors, Engineers, Lawyers, Surveyors, Dentists and so forth.

    The question of why people attend a university isn’t the same question as why universities exist. Certainly there are some university qualifications that are matched to specific professions, but the purpose of universities for centuries has been to educate people to a high level such that they’re qualified to undertake their own scholarly research. The fact that some graduates are also qualified to do particular jobs is tangential to that purpose.

    For sure since they fell under the control of the left.

    Back before they “fell under the control of the left,” by which I presume you mean before the universal adult franchise, they existed to turn young gentlemen into scholars of philosophy, literature, history, mathematics, the pure sciences, the classics, medicine and law. Can’t see many right-wingers being keen to see them return to that.

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  55. gump (1,553 comments) says:

    @Kea

    “Here is a real womens rights issue, unlike our first world problems. FFS :(”

    ———————

    Oh look – a logical fallacy. I guess my University Education was useful after all.

    You have fallen into the clutches of the Fallacy of Relative Privation:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation

    “The fallacy of relative privation is an informal fallacy which attempts to suggest that the opponent’s argument should be ignored because there are more important problems in the world – despite the fact that these issues are often completely unrelated to the subject under discussion.”

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  56. Andrei (2,532 comments) says:

    I now have a fresh insight into what’s involved in Religious Studies (http://www.otago.ac.nz/courses/subjects/rels.html) and Biblical Studies (http://www.otago.ac.nz/courses/subjects/bibs.html). Thank you.

    Lol those two subjects probably go to prove the point – don’t get them confused with subjects like Divinity or Theology

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