Blue eyes better!

September 3rd, 2013 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

Parents have raised concerns about a discrimination experiment that pitted blue-eyed pupils against their brown-eyed classmates at a Christchurch school.

Four classes from Cobham Intermediate School – involving about 120 year-8 pupils – were split into what they were told were the more “superior” blue-eyed pupils, and the lesser brown-eyed pupils, to teach them about and discrimination.

But a mother of a brown-eyed pupil said her 13-year-old son came home from school upset and “really angry” after the roles were not reversed in his class.

If you’re going to do an exercise like that with kids, it is a good idea to make sure everyone experiences both groups.

Students with blue eyes were told of new research that students with blue eyes developed at a superior rate and were more mature than other students.

The classes talked through the issues before pupils left, but their children might wish to discuss it further at home, it said.

Thelning said the lesson provided “a catalyst for discussion and reflection”.

Reversing the roles had been considered but the blue-eyed children had shown “empathy and awareness for others”.

Well this proves of course that us blue eyes are superior, because we look after our brown eyed pets well :-)

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34 Responses to “Blue eyes better!”

  1. Redbaiter (7,862 comments) says:

    Really, what is this sociological witch doctor crap doing in our schools, especially when literacy and numeracy standards are so low?

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  2. Cato (1,095 comments) says:

    This is why it’s so important to have registered teachers – so that they can base their lessons on old episodes of Oprah:

    http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Race-on-The-Oprah-Show-A-25-Year-Look-Back/4

    You see, a regular graduate wouldn’t have the sense to do that.

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  3. Ryan Sproull (7,056 comments) says:

    Next step… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave

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  4. Judith (8,243 comments) says:

    @ Redbaiter

    I can assure you Red that any test along those lines DID NOT come from any person with a sociology degree. In fact that sort of test was more likely to have been run by someone who belongs to the National Front.

    Sociology is concerned with the social – not the physical. It is concerned with the effects of discrimination, it does not promote it. It is concerned with the effects of inequality, not ensuring that people who think they are superior based on their physical attributes, get to promote them by conducting such experiments on young people, and pointing out to them how some are more superior than others, and especially providing a negative perception along the lines of ‘as you have brown eyes there is no point in you bothering to try’.

    And before you ask – I have green eyes – well actually they are sort of a turquoisie green,

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  5. s.russell (1,578 comments) says:

    If the colours had been swapped and the brown-eyed children had been the superior ones for the purpose of the class exercise, would anyone have complained?

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  6. wreck1080 (3,787 comments) says:

    I remember “The Wave” movie from high school.

    That was cool.

    And, the bit where he revealed their leader as hitler, shivers.

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  7. RRM (9,606 comments) says:

    There’s nothing new about this…

    My wife described how they played this exact same exercise when she was at school.
    Mrs RRM was a real fly in the teacher’s ointment, as she has one blue eye and one brown eye… :-)

    [And LOL - A classroom exercise to teach the kids that racism isn't nice, and redbaiter has a problem with it. Didn't see that coming. ]

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  8. Griff (6,967 comments) says:

    Most red heads have blue eyes
    Therefore brown must prevail
    Only question is, when does brown eyes become green?
    Or are we destined to be like the colored in saffa land?

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  9. Redbaiter (7,862 comments) says:

    ‘And before you ask – I have green eyes – well actually they are sort of a turquoisie green,

    Funny, I have always imagined them to have the appearance of little red and white targets.

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  10. Redbaiter (7,862 comments) says:

    “A classroom exercise to teach the kids that racism isn’t nice, and redbaiter has a problem with it.”

    I don’t want fucked in the head prog school teachers instructing kids on any issue that is in reality a parenting issue.

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  11. Judith (8,243 comments) says:

    @ Redbaiter

    OHHHH RED – you actually take the time to imagine me ? I’m blushing!

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  12. wat dabney (3,716 comments) says:

    I can assure you Red that any test along those lines DID NOT come from any person with a sociology degree. In fact that sort of test was more likely to have been run by someone who belongs to the National Front.

    Er, the blue/brown eyes experiment is very well known and was devised by a committed lefty.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Elliott

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  13. Judith (8,243 comments) says:

    @ Griff

    Sorry to muck up your statement, but I have a red head child – with green eyes

    and a red headed grandson – with brown eyes.

    My father had blue eyes and black hair.

    I think its all to do with which gene is dominant, and I think if I remember right, it’s brown that is the dominant gene, then green and finally blue. But I didn’t listen much in biology (the teacher was too cute) so I could be wrong – the teachers eyes were brown!

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  14. Judith (8,243 comments) says:

    @ wat

    so she didn’t have a sociology degree then?

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  15. Jaffa (82 comments) says:

    Not many maoris have blue eyes, just a thought.

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  16. gump (1,538 comments) says:

    @Judith

    Stop using facts to undermine other people’s arguments.

    You are discriminating against people that just want to make things up.

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  17. Rightandleft (652 comments) says:

    This experiment originated with a 3rd grade (8 year olds) class in the US right after King was killed. There were initially complaints from parents there as well, but then the teacher behind it earned nation-wide praise and repeated the experiment each year with a documentary made on it in 1970. I teach about this experiment as well as the Milgram Experiment and Stanford Prison Experiment in our unit on the mindset of the Nazis. Oh and we also talk about The Wave, as someone mentioned earlier. I think there’s nothing wrong with the blue eye/brown eye experiment, though in the original she did always reverse the treatment on the second day.

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  18. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,815 comments) says:

    Nailed it Red. When they can boast of a one hundred percent literacy rate for their little charges. there might be a few minutes left each week for socialist indulgences.

    Funny thing, you know, one never hears of Arawa being taught it is a bad thing to hate Ngapuhi. Or Tongans being taught it is abad thing to hate Samoans. Is all this discrimination shit really just for Pakeha?

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  19. Griff (6,967 comments) says:

    Lord of the Flies

    The central concern of Lord of the Flies is the conflict between two competing impulses that exist within all human beings: the instinct to live by rules, act peacefully, follow moral commands, and value the good of the group against the instinct to gratify one’s immediate desires, act violently to obtain supremacy over others, and enforce one’s will. This conflict might be expressed in a number of ways: civilization vs. savagery, order vs. chaos, reason vs. impulse, law vs. anarchy, or the broader heading of good vs. evil.

    Was part of the curriculum .Circa 1975.
    Very much the same theme was designed to be developed as pupils were encouraged to discuses the morel implications of the group think associated with such dynamics.

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  20. gump (1,538 comments) says:

    @Adolf Fiinkensein

    The estimated literacy rate for people in New Zealand aged over fifteen years is 99%.

    Source – The CIA World Factbook

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2103.html#136

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  21. OTGO (521 comments) says:

    “But a mother of a brown-eyed pupil said her 13-year-old son came home from school upset and “really angry” after the roles were not reversed in his class.”

    Mum clearly does not understand the meaning of the word “experiment”.

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  22. Kelly (27 comments) says:

    there is nothing in the story that says that they weren’t intending to reverse the roles. It just shows some upset kid who was put in the group of suppressed and went home and cried about it and mummy running to the media and school about her outrage of her angry little boy who had his feelings hurt… Newsflash this is what it is like and no matter how much you cry about it you cant change it

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  23. doggone7 (746 comments) says:

    The main discrimination in this instance is against the teacher and every other teacher. There are not cameras in every classroom in the country so that a permanent watch cannot be kept on exactly what is happening, in every context, on every tone of voice every minute of every day. That would make all the stupid jumping to conclusions, the misrepresentations the moronic and biased comments more easily seen for what they are.

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  24. Viking2 (11,227 comments) says:

    And before you ask – I have green eyes – well actually they are sort of a turquoise green,

    Ah well Judith, you come from good stock unlike so many here.

    Red hair and Green eyes descend from Eric the Red. Viking.

    Now the Vikings became well traveled and managed to inseminate a few ladies on the way. The Scots, Irish, a few Frenchies et al.

    As a matter of interest Vikings also treated their ladies well, had strong values and despised the Catholics.
    Most still do. :lol:
    check this out.
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=603818202974580&set=a.446142305408838.94800.443389372350798&type=1&theater

    https://www.facebook.com/TheVikingsHaul?hc_location=stream

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  25. Jim (405 comments) says:

    The estimated literacy rate for people in New Zealand aged over fifteen years is 99%.

    Source – The CIA World Factbook

    There’s proof the USA is not monitoring the communications of NZ teens.

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  26. Rich Prick (1,604 comments) says:

    Very funny Jim.

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  27. Bad__Cat (139 comments) says:

    Oh, bugger, I hate to side with Red, but………….GREEN EYES RULE!!

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  28. Fentex (900 comments) says:

    Some moron has read The Wave or about the Stanford Experiment and completely misunderstood the point about how this sort of thing should not be done.

    The report doesn’t say it, but I infer the children were told this was an exercise – surely no one would do such a thing wihtout making it clear it was a mere exercise?

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  29. Bob R (1,354 comments) says:

    Carl Horowitz has quite a scathing review of this experiment, describing it as manipulative and sadistic. The full article is interesting reading as there is a whole industry based on this, but it seems it actually amplifies conflict. As Horowitz comments:

    “Far from combating white resentment of nonwhites, such “training” actually creates it. School multicultural programs, Thomas Sowell observes, has produced “mounting evidence of increasing (italics author’s) animosities among students of different backgrounds.”[xiv] Apparently, that’s also true in the adult world. In Britain, where Elliott is virtually lionized by multiculturalists, a former government diversity specialist explained the effects of diversity training:[xv]

    You cannot over-estimate the damage to race relations that “diversity awareness” training is causing in this country. It’s having the opposite effect to that intended, causing divisions, resentment, and an increase in judgments based on race, where previously such things were actually quite rare. How do I know this? I was involved in putting together a diversity “toolkit” for a government department, and saw first-hand the effect it had as it was rammed down the throats of staff.”

    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=1019

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  30. Bob R (1,354 comments) says:

    @ Redbaiter,

    Indeed, as the Horowitz article suggests in the article above:

    “Less a heartland Susan Sontag than a white Louis Farrakhan, Elliott is consumed with the need to force whites to experience shame and atonement. She’s in good company. As Ryan O’Donnell pointed out in these pages nearly four years ago, virtually all the early leaders of the diversity industry began as hard-Left activists in the Sixties.”

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  31. kowtow (7,876 comments) says:

    Funny how Viking gets in his anti Catholic bigotry……”they despised the Catholics” but no doubt shortly after their plundering days they became Catholics themselves,before becoming l Lutherans which is actually pretty damn close to being Catholic,afterall Luther was a Catholic monk.

    V2′s helmet wouldn’t have a pair of horns it would have a cock sticking up out of the middle of it to signify what a dickhead he is.

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  32. TTTC (11 comments) says:

    Why does this crap always seem to come out of Christchurch?

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  33. Bob R (1,354 comments) says:

    @ TTTC,

    Really? Are there other examples of this kind of Cultural Marxist brainwashing being applied in Christchurch?

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  34. ChardonnayGuy (1,170 comments) says:

    Hah! I don’t fit either brown or blue eyed camp-Mum and my sister have brown, dad has blue and due to a recessive gene somewhere, I’m grey eyed! Take that, identity politics!!! :)

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