Bob Jones endorses Robertson

September 10th, 2013 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

writes in the NZ Herald:

I don’t know David Cunliffe but his parliamentary colleagues and the Press Gallery do and virtually to a man and a woman can’t stand him. By contrast is enormously liked by everyone. That alone should decide Labour’s leadership, for as John Key demonstrates, likeability is a considerable electoral bonus. …

Throughout his career, everyone Abbott’s worked with, going back to university days, liked him enormously and remained staunchly loyal. Conversely, it took only a few months throughout his career for everyone around Rudd to detest him with a deep loathing.

This was the killer line for Abbott in one of the debates, where he said if you wanted to know about my character then ask my colleagues, and if you want to know about Mr Rudd’s, ask his colleagues.

I think Sir Bob over-states the case though. Rudd was hated by almost all of his colleagues. The antipathy towards Cunliffe is more measured and by a smaller proportion of his colleagues.

So, returning to Labour’s leadership contest, I believe Robertson is the standout choice for, as he attracts such warmth and respect from his caucus colleagues, inevitably he will from the wider electorate in the high-profile leader’s position, and will better achieve a united caucus than Cunliffe. …

If anyone can stir this apathetic lot it would more likely be the affable, rugby-playing Robertson.

All of this points up the foolishness of Labour’s candidate and leader selection mechanism. It stands in stark contrast to National’s democratic model in which the electorates choose their candidates and caucus their leader.

A strong endorsement for Robertson from Sir Bob, however not sure it will help him with the members vote!

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24 Responses to “Bob Jones endorses Robertson”

  1. Redbaiter (10,398 comments) says:

    Well naturally, Robertson is the contender with the least public support, and naturally again, if he leads Labour, they will get less votes.

    Makes sense that if anyone is anti-Labour and wants to see the Labour vote reduced at the next election, then they should cheer for Robertson.

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  2. dubya (245 comments) says:

    If Sir Bob could make Robertson’s 2013 general election campaign as hilarious as Carmen Rupe’s 1977 Wellington mayoral bid, I for one would support that. Especially if they announce Grant’s engagement to Ron Brierley.

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  3. Doug (401 comments) says:

    Fun and games in camp Cunliffe.

    Labour leader hopeful David Cunliffe has stood down a member of his campaign team over allegations she was scaremongering over Grant Robertson’s sexuality.

    Volunteer Jenny Michie was taken off Mr Cunliffe’s support team on the last day of the party’s leadership roadshow, which ends in Christchurch today.

    Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/Cunliffe-campaigner-kicked-off-team/tabid/1607/articleID/312624/Default.aspx#ixzz2eSLoMEe3

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  4. Richard29 (377 comments) says:

    “Rudd was hated by almost all of his colleagues. The antipathy towards Cunliffe is more measured and by a smaller proportion of his colleagues.”

    Agree.

    I know people who have worked closely with Cunliffe who only have good things to say about him. The meme about Cunliffe being despised by most of caucus is overstated. Last time round he lost the Caucus vote by a fairly narrow margin and that was against a combined unity ticket of Shearer/Robertson/Parker.

    Cunliffe tends to be unpopular with people who he strongly disagrees with because he is decisive in dealing with them – I don’t think he was well loved by the Telecom shareholders or the members of the Hawkes Bay DHB – but his actions in both cases were popular and necessary.

    One of the things that screwed him that time round (and has the potential to do so again) was that he chose not to tie his hands should he end up in the leadership position by not cutting a deal to get there (in fact it was well known that he planned to shake things up and get rid of some people if he won).
    By comparison Shearer was compromised from day one and in debt to the old guard who installed him and as such he never had the ability to stamp his authority on the position – the one occasion where he tried to “deal to” an MP was in taking down Cunliffe which reinforced rather than dispelled the notion that he was a puppet of Goff/King/Mallard et al…

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  5. Tom Jackson (2,553 comments) says:

    Makes sense that if anyone is anti-Labour and wants to see the Labour vote reduced at the next election, then they should cheer for Robertson.

    Jones isn’t anti-Labour. He’s a cheerleader for the post 1984 party and a long time knocker of pre-1984 Kirk/Rowling style Labour. Since Cunliffe is supposedly the representative of the latter, and Robertson the former, Jones supports Robertson.

    Jones prefers Labour. See this comment from his August 6 column:

    It’s no secret the commercial property industry, numbering over 100,000 people in all of its ramifications, favour Labour governments simply because they like vibrant economies.

    As the past 40 years show, these always accompany Labour’s periods in office. But, the stultification corresponding with National governments is welcomed by bigger players as it throws up acquisition opportunities.

    I’ve always wished I could have a beer with Jones so I could listen to him tell me boxing stories, and I could tell him why he’s slightly wrong about capitalism. I mean, he’s a bright guy and wittier than most of us will ever be.

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  6. iMP (2,455 comments) says:

    “warmth and respect”??? Is this the Labour party Bob Jones is having us on about?…such a naughty practical joker.

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  7. Tom Jackson (2,553 comments) says:

    which reinforced rather than dispelled the notion that he was a puppet of Goff/King/Mallard et al…

    I’ve long suspected that Mallard has a fetish for sticking his hand up other people’s bottoms.

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  8. Redbaiter (10,398 comments) says:

    “Jones prefers Labour.”

    Yeah I know that. He profits from leasing them all the increased office space required when they become government. Saw a story on that somewhere.

    I really just wanted to make the point re Robertson.

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  9. Tom Jackson (2,553 comments) says:

    Yeah I know that. He profits from leasing them all the increased office space required when they become government. Saw a story on that somewhere.

    More than that, I think. My guess is that he prefers a “practical free market” approach rather than the more ideological approach you get from National.

    (this is the way us normal people view it, Red)

    If you can find a copy, Jones’ collected letters from the late 70s are hilarious. I finally managed to find my own copy at a book sale some years back along with a few volumes of his old newspaper columns. They’re all brilliant. My favourite story is the one about how he used to send Bibles anonymously to Rowling inscribed “from a well wisher”.

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  10. BeeJay (72 comments) says:

    Dear old Bob! The same old Bob when asked about same sex marriage legislation, said ” I couldn’t care less if they married their dog”! He’s at an age where he just says whatever he likes and couldn’t care less what others might think. He hates Cunliffe, doesn’t really like Jones, which leaves no option if he wants to have his say and have “someone” to support. Grant Robertson is a nice guy, but it will still be way beyond my lifetime, and definitely way past Bob’s, before Kiwis will vote for an openly gay Prime Minister, and I’ve got quite a few years left in me (hopefully)! You think I’m wrong? Then you didn’t see the unionists interviewed by TV!

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  11. BeaB (2,164 comments) says:

    I have always thought what someone said about Stephen Fry applies to Bob Jones -“the kind of person stupid people think is clever”.

    You can’t help suspecting he is making mischief but it must be comforting for Claire Curran etc to know they are on the same side as him. She must be thrilled she has helped to get a sister sacked. Lovely lot these defenders of the workers.

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  12. the conservative (67 comments) says:

    What would you expect coming from a liberation wanker like Jones?

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  13. john (50 comments) says:

    Richard29, I listened to a bloke last night describe the thoughts and the dynamic of the cohort surrounding Cunliffe in his days as a young diplomat. One of you is very wrong!!

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  14. Viking2 (11,672 comments) says:

    The haters and wreckers simply don’t like Cunnliffe because he will shove it up them and root them out of the Labour Caucus.
    Can only be good to see some of the dross removed from their over inflated salaries.

    Will be good for Labour even if we don’t like him.
    And I suspect he will have different policy once he’s the boss.

    In the long run good for NZ if he starts to make the Nats. work for their salaries instead of rolling along.

    Cunnliffe & Jones. Undertakers.

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  15. peterwn (3,333 comments) says:

    IMO Bob supports whichever political party whose policies he can perversely benefit from the most.

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  16. Black with a Vengeance (1,868 comments) says:

    Bob should share a nice teabagging over a bag of diddles one afternoon with Robertson and see if he still feels the same. :)

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  17. Ian McK (237 comments) says:

    Bob has heaps of untenanted office space in Wellington CBD. He is once again, showing he is as always, a good businessman.

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  18. burt (7,424 comments) says:

    Ian

    Absolutely – property developers and speculators (also commercial letting agents) absolutely love the Labour government. Like a real estate guy I know said while he was cashing a cheque for a few hundred thousand one day … Nothing makes us rich like a Labour government stuffing all available office space with luke warm bodies to pretend there is low unemployment !!!!!

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  19. burt (7,424 comments) says:

    DPF

    however not sure it will help him with the members vote!

    You say that like the members vote is actually of any consequence – you know better than that – it’s the unions that decide. They are the ones who donate fees extracted from low paid workers to highly paid politicians… they choose !

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  20. Reid (16,683 comments) says:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-08/how-america-works-one-cartoon

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  21. Steve (North Shore) (4,536 comments) says:

    Never know what’s going on with Bob Jones. Maybe he feels sorry for the chain smoking homosexual mice that invaded his property

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  22. BlairM (2,340 comments) says:

    Never trust a man who donates money to Winston Peters simply for shits and giggles.

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  23. ste3e (119 comments) says:

    All the polls favour Cunliffe. Labour have already tried one non-Cunliffe candidate to the ire of Labour supporters. If they again decide they know better than us what it is we want be it on their own heads.

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  24. Tom Jackson (2,553 comments) says:

    I have always thought what someone said about Stephen Fry applies to Bob Jones -”the kind of person stupid people think is clever”.

    Jones is witty, not clever.

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