Edwards on Jones

September 9th, 2013 at 11:00 am by David Farrar

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is one of only two people I have ever hung up on. Trevor Mallard is the other. I don’t take well to being bullied or abused.

Now that’s a good opening line!

I do Mallard an injustice by mentioning him in the same context as Jones. I have considerable respect for Trevor and nothing but contempt for Jones.

If I ever had doubts that such contempt was deserved, they would have vanished over the past couple of weeks in the face of his numerous appearances on television. This is not a man the Labour Party can ever afford to have as its Leader. This is not a man the country can ever afford to have as its Prime Minister. He would almost certainly bring shame to both offices.

Little chance Shane will be Leader or PM. But he could well end up Deputy if that is the price of his support for second preferences.

Here’s Jones on his Dalmatian forefathers: ‘I tell you what, a lot of them were fairly lusty individuals, because they didn’t always marry those Maori wahines they applied their biological gum-spears to.’ (Penis reference. Espiner laughs.)

Jones again, following his call to David Cunliffe: ‘What the hell is a soft piece. Doing things in a soft fashion has never really been a failing of mine’ (Penis reference presumably boasting his ability to sustain an erection. Espiner finds this very funny.)

And here’s Jones, in a speech referring to what he intended to do to John Key:  ‘I’m going to tie a bungy cord around a sensitive spot and then I’m going to get those callipers and cut them, and then the mercenary of capitalism can suffer what he deserves – a dead cat bounce.” (Reference to castrating John Key)

And Jones on Labour’s proposed ‘man ban’: ‘… the overwhelming response [in his electorate] is the public doesn’t want the country run by geldings.’ (Reference to women as castrated male horses.)

Brian is right to point out that Shane does seem rather obsessed with certain appendages.

He definitely has mass appeal, but he is also a bit of a walking time bomb.

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34 Responses to “Edwards on Jones”

  1. nickb (3,659 comments) says:

    Last quote is absolutely classic. Who else in NZ politics would have the fortitude to say something like that, even in the National party?

    He has my respect for not being silenced by the Labour sisterhood at least, porn escapades, troughing and being a commie aside. Interestingly I found out a few weeks ago that I used to be quite good friends with one of his sons. Don’t think I ever met Shane in person though.

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  2. kowtow (7,625 comments) says:

    ….walking time bomb…..?

    more like a wanking talk bomb.

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  3. Colville (2,081 comments) says:

    He definitely has mass appeal, but he is also a bit of a walking time bomb.

    I think that word is spelt with a ‘n’ and not an “l” :-)

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  4. Colville (2,081 comments) says:

    Ha ! snap!

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  5. Keeping Stock (10,100 comments) says:

    Is there any disclosure from Dr Edwards with regard to the role he is playing in any other candidate’s campaign, or any advice he has given any other candidate?

    Let’s not pretend that Dr Edwards is a disinterested observer of #Labour’sGotTalent. He is squarely in Camp David, and his piece ought to be read with that knowledge.

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  6. burt (7,812 comments) says:

    DPF

    I have considerable respect for Trevor

    Really…

    Is it because he was a champion for the school zone policy yet didn’t send his own kids to his local in-zone school ?

    Is it because he punches people and gets a promotion ?

    Is it because after voting for the EFA he had his little red Labour van sign written without an authorisation statement and when challenged said the law was confusing ? (The law he voted to pass … confusing …)

    Is it because he makes reference to sticking beer bottles up peoples anus’s rather than cutting their tackle off ?

    Why … where is this respect coming from ?

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  7. tvb (4,205 comments) says:

    Fran’s article on Saturday tears Jones to shreds. I consider Jones to be ill discipline and lazy and his private life does him no favours as revealed in Fran’s article. He is not travelling well though his good blokeyness does resonate with some.

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  8. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    I’ve always thought Jones was a more upmarket version if John Tamihere. No, that isn’t a compliment. :)

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  9. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    Edwards has identified himself as left of left.

    That should tell you enough about who he wants for PM.

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  10. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    “Is there any disclosure from Dr Edwards with regard to the role he is playing in any other candidate’s campaign, or any advice he has given any other candidate?”

    Edwards denies any engagement with Cunliffe. I asked him.

    Quote-

    Cunliffe is not and has never been our client.

    Unquote.

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  11. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    He is squarely in Camp David, and his piece ought to be read with that knowledge.

    Edwards has made no secret of the fact he supports Cunliffe, but I doubt he is giving any of them advice.

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  12. Colville (2,081 comments) says:

    I do Mallard an injustice by mentioning him in the same context as Jones. I have considerable respect for Trevor and nothing but contempt for Jones.

    This bit is meant to be in quotes. BE wrote it not DPF.

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  13. James Stephenson (2,029 comments) says:

    Cunliffe is not and has never been our client.

    Just advising him as a mate then?

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  14. Cunningham (815 comments) says:

    “He definitely has mass appeal”

    He did before this contest. His comments about JK were appalling and I lost any respect I had for the guy after that. No matter what part of the political spectrum someone is from, that comment was way past the mark. He is not fit to be represent NZ as PM.

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  15. Colville (2,081 comments) says:

    James Stephenson.. Yeah or getting paid by a lawyer of a trust for services rendered.

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  16. Ed Snack (1,737 comments) says:

    Shane should go over and lead the Labor party in Australia, he has the right sort of approach. But he’s just saying in public what the prissier candidates say in private or in “political code”. They’re seriously big into hatred, it goes with the territory. They’re trying to do the old political trick “personalize it, freeze it, and hate it” on Key. It has to be personal for the tactic to “work”.

    And Edwards, I don’t think there’s a political commentator I’ve despised more that Edwards for a long time. If he says something of this nature it’s almost 100% certain that it’s not real, but a constructed view to suit his political aims of the moment. Pretty obviously the word has gone out from the Cunliffe camp to undermine Jones, so they roll out truthless old freaks like Edwards.

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  17. Mark (1,362 comments) says:

    What this charade of a leadership contest has shown the New Zealand voters us that none of them are up to the job. Time to role out picks 4-6 and start again.

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  18. dime (9,430 comments) says:

    Cunliffe has this won right?

    The other one is weird and being ashamed of his husband is even more weird.

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  19. Longknives (4,456 comments) says:

    Dime- Maybe Alf isn’t much of a looker?

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  20. flipper (3,557 comments) says:

    Ed Snack (1,073) Says:
    September 9th, 2013 at 11:43 am
    Shane should go over and lead the Labor party in Australia, he has the right sort of approach. But he’s just saying in public what the prissier candidates say in private or in “political code”. They’re seriously big into hatred, it goes with the territory. They’re trying to do the old political trick “personalize it, freeze it, and hate it” on Key. It has to be personal for the tactic to “work”.
    *****

    Absolutely correct Ed. A major factor in Abbott’s (the Monk or The Budgie) win was the anti-Abbott campaign – nasty and personal. It did not work.

    Clark and Williams tried it on J Key in 2006 to 2008, and they tried again in 2011. They have been persisting ever since, now often using others to fire their bullets. But none hit, and there is no mud that sticks. But it is a typical union/activist homosexual approach.

    They should continue their campaign. For National, it is clearly “working”.

    En passant, the contrast between Key and the shit bags on the left was shown yesterday (on Q+A) when DPF disclosed that J Key had “invited Gillard and her boyfriend to holiday in Auckland as his guests” when she got rolled by Krudd. Liarbor and red melon Commissars would never do that.

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  21. bhudson (4,734 comments) says:

    Why … where is this respect coming from ?

    burt,

    I think that was a formatting error – he put the [blockquote] in the wrong place. As I recall it was Brian Edwards who said he had respect for Mallard but not Jones.

    Your question is entirely valid of course, but should be directed at Brian Edwards, not DPF.

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  22. scrubone (3,048 comments) says:

    Heh, if you took this paragraph:

    If I ever had doubts that such contempt was deserved, they would have vanished over the past couple of weeks in the face of his numerous appearances on television. This is not a man the Labour Party can ever afford to have as its Leader. This is not a man the country can ever afford to have as its Prime Minister. He would almost certainly bring shame to both offices.

    And asked which of the 3 it was referring to, I’d be hard pressed to say. They’re all appalling.

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  23. MT_Tinman (2,990 comments) says:

    I would far rather have someone Edwards doesn’t like than one he does.

    Keeping Stock, well noted.

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  24. kiwi in america (2,436 comments) says:

    keeping stock
    Exactly my thoughts – Edwards has picked a side and is eagerly anticipating the fees he will earn from Cunners.

    Prebs summed it up perfectly after the Q+A Labour Leaders debate – the winner was John Key. The left are deluding themselves that this race to the left will help them beat Key. Whoever wins it will be like shooting fish in a barrel. Behind door #1 Cunliffe’s ego, narcissism and feigned working class credentials that pissed off his colleagues, won’t take long for middle NZ to draw the same conclusion – Door #2 a troughing Wellington insider whose sexual orientation won’t win back Waitakere Man and keep Pasifika voters at home and Door #3 a down to earth bloke who surely does rub the sisterhood up the wrong way but who ditched his wife and kids and charged porn on the taxpayer! Oh and we’ve already seen how they coped with Key at PQ time.

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  25. burt (7,812 comments) says:

    Colville / bhudson

    Ah yes, I can see that now. It’s absolutely no surprise Edwards has respect for Mallard… But I bet for all the same reasons he had even more respect for Clark ;-)

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  26. burt (7,812 comments) says:

    ross69

    Edwards has made no secret of the fact he supports Cunliffe, but I doubt he is giving any of them advice.

    They still have a fighting chance then ?

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  27. PaulL (5,873 comments) says:

    @MT_Tinman:

    I would far rather have someone Edwards doesn’t like than one he does.

    Depends on the reasons.

    If it’s for lack of idealogical purity, then I agree with you, anyone that Edwards thinks is ideologically unpure is probably a good centrist candidate.

    If it’s because he’s lazy, mean to his wife (and maybe his dog), and has an unhealthy fascination with talking about genitalia in public contexts that should have a little more decorum, then it’s possible that Edwards is right. As they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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  28. Ian McK (237 comments) says:

    When a person such as Edwards endorses what an a/hole Jones is, says a lot. A line-up of three of NZ’s biggest buffoons and evil weirdos.

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  29. Rex Widerstrom (5,261 comments) says:

    And Jones on Labour’s proposed ‘man ban’: ‘… the overwhelming response [in his electorate] is the public doesn’t want the country run by geldings.’ (Reference to women as castrated male horses.)

    Really? I guess that’s one interpretation. I read it as “the public doesn’t want the country run by a government that is comprised half of females, regardless of their relative merit, and half of males who haven’t the balls to stand up to such nonsense”, the “geldings” in the analogy being the emasculated men, not women.

    And in that, at least, I believe Jones is absolutely right. If New Zealand is anything it is a meritocracy, as is apparent in our adulation of anyone who’s better than someone else at kicking a ball or rowing a boat or such. To think that elevating someone on the basis of gender (or race, or hair colour, or any other factor over which they have no control) would fly in this country is to suffer the most deep-seated of delusions and to have no understanding whatsoever of our national character.

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  30. wiseowl (762 comments) says:

    ‘Shane jones is only one of two I have hung up on’

    Thats a worry.

    Jones is the only one that tells it like it is.

    Lets all pretend that things are not as they are.I mean if we all bluff our way to power that’s fine.Bullshit rules.

    Lets get back to reality.The sooner the better.

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  31. wiseowl (762 comments) says:

    And as for Edwards,we all know where he comes from.

    The sooner they get rid of people like this from sunday political programmes the better.

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  32. burt (7,812 comments) says:

    Edwards was relevant till about the 80′s…. Now he’s just an over fluffed has been hankering for the past, like Trotter he probably holds fond memories of the days when it was honourable to use a cosh in anger against people who didn’t join the union.

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  33. MrTips (144 comments) says:

    New Zealand hung up on Brian Edwards ages ago.

    He really is the Kevin Rudd of the political vainstream.

    YAWN

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  34. hj (6,350 comments) says:

    I was in the crawl space under my house putting in underfloor insulation. I heard Brian Edwards say he couldn’t understand why anyone would want to give up working. Also he never feels threatened when he walks around (Herne Bay). He’s one of the elites whose life style pops him into a separate little world.

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