Kim Dot Con?

September 16th, 2013 at 12:00 pm by David Farrar

Whale has this video of being interviewed by Paul Holmes:

Holmes: Should there be heavy damages?

Dotcom: Well, I’m not interested in damages from the New Zealand Government. I’m interested to resolve this case. I’m interested for people to realise the people who attacked me, they made a mistake and that this needs to be resolved in a diplomatic fashion, and soon, because this is just going to drag on. It’s going to hurt everybody. It’s going to embarrass those who are attacking us. And there’s no point in taking this further.

Holmes: If you got damages, of course, I suppose that could go some way to paying for a new broadband cable across the Pacific.

Dotcom: Yeah, but if I would seek damages, I would not seek them in New Zealand. I would seek them from the US Government, which has acted in bad faith, and I would seek that also from Hollywood Studios who are paying the MPAA and Chris Dodd, you know, to do this kind of thing. And I think they are liable because there has been a lot of bad faith and a lot of misinformation.

And in case you missed it here’s the Herald story about him claiming NZ taxpayers owe him damages of $6 million.

Would be nice if media did more than just print his words as press releases with no scrutiny.

 

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38 Responses to “Kim Dot Con?”

  1. gazzmaniac (2,307 comments) says:

    Why can’t we just deport him back to Germany?

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  2. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    There will be little or no real scrutiny by the Aotearoa media of the Sour Kraut.

    Same thing with Ahmed Zaoui.

    They create a hero status around these people and maintain it.

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  3. Doctor Who (52 comments) says:

    He changed his mind. Serves the fools right. My guess is he’ll do something useful with the money, for the publicity, after it’s settled out of court.

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  4. Viking2 (11,488 comments) says:

    Everyone is allowed to change their mind as circumstances change.
    Even Whale.

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  5. BeeJay (72 comments) says:

    Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty made a great call, cos all the dumb kiwis with all legal men, want to make Humpty Dumpty wealthy again! Like hell will we ever agree to that!

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  6. Yoza (1,879 comments) says:

    So if the New Zealand tax payer does have to cough up $6 million, then surely we can pass on that bill to the US agency that ordered the assault on the Dotcom mansion. *snort*

    Or is the tax payer funded New Zealand security apparatus so much of a servile instrument of US corporate imperialism that it not only pays to enforce the property rights of US corporates, but it also willingly compensates the victims of over zealous enforcement of those laws?

    If New Zealand is forced to pay compensation for this fiasco, then those responsible need to be held accountable. It is completely unreasonable to hold Kim Dotcom responsible for being the victim of over zealous sycophantic New Zealand officials.

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  7. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    Everyone is allowed to change their mind as circumstances change.

    A society that only acts by permission is truly pathetic.

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  8. Elaycee (4,393 comments) says:

    The sooner we see the arse end of this convicted fraudster waddle down the air bridge into NZ6, the better.

    It’s pathetic that our MSM continues to fawn over this overhyped criminal. It seems that, every time Dot Con opens his mouth, a card carrying member of our gushing media contingent is ready to hang off his every word and recite what he says as ‘fact’….

    Dot Con needs to piss off – let him defend the many allegations against him, in a US Court.

    After all, if he’s so sure of his ‘case’ he’ll have no problem defending it.

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  9. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    So if the New Zealand tax payer does have to cough up $6 million

    They don’t, they liability for damages (if pursued) belongs to the Crown. Taxpayers did not commit the crimes against Dotcom, employees of the Crown did.

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  10. Longknives (4,764 comments) says:

    I too am sick to death of this fat slug and the media fawning over him…

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  11. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    The only money the “Crown” has is ours.

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  12. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    It’s pathetic that our MSM continues to fawn over this overhyped criminal.

    Can you identify any actual crime committed by Dotcom, or are you just trying to draw attention away from the real crimes committed by the NZ police?

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  13. UglyTruth (4,551 comments) says:

    The only money the “Crown” has is ours.

    No, it often borrows money from other sources. The Crown acts as a corporation, it does not act in your interests as a trustee.

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  14. Luke H (73 comments) says:

    There is no contradiction or hypocrisy here: Dotcom wants the police to admit that the raid on his mansion was ridiculously heavy-handed and apologise to him and his family. This court case seeking costs is the next step in trying to gain that apology.

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  15. DylanReeve (166 comments) says:

    That interview was almost a year ago. I dear say the situation may have changed since then.

    I’m not surprised he’s taking action really, and I expect he’ll take far bigger action against the US at some stage, they literally destroyed his business and caused the deletion millions of users’ files.

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  16. DylanReeve (166 comments) says:

    Can you identify any actual crime committed by Dotcom, or are you just trying to draw attention away from the real crimes committed by the NZ police?

    Seems unlikely that anyone can – after all, if he’d committed crimes here then he’d have been charged, and that didn’t happen.

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  17. Keeping Stock (10,342 comments) says:

    let him defend the many allegations against him, in a US Court.

    After all, if he’s so sure of his ‘case’ he’ll have no problem defending it.

    Quite so Elaycee. Dotcom keeps saying that he wants his day in court, and he is supremely confident that he will be cleared. So why doesn’t he strike a deal with the US authorities to voluntarily go to the USA to clear his name?

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  18. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,903 comments) says:

    A square head bullshit artist.

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  19. Paulus (2,632 comments) says:

    Of course he can also go to Finland – he has Finnish Citizenship alongside his German one.

    What Nationality is his wife and children ?

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  20. Redbaiter (9,098 comments) says:

    “So why doesn’t he strike a deal with the US authorities to voluntarily go to the USA to clear his name?”

    You keep issuing this empty challenge. Its clear from what has happened so far, with the American authorities so in the pocket of Obama and the Hollywood liberals, that he’d have only a very small chance of a fair trial.

    If I was him I would be fighting against extradition too.

    You’re only trying to defend John Key. You need to get over the partisan politics and recognise that the authorities here fucked up badly and the guy is due redress for what happened to him. I defend anyone’s civil rights, I don’t care if they’re fat, thin German or English, or left or right.

    Everyone deserves their day in court.

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  21. wikiriwhis business (4,019 comments) says:

    it was the Americans. Get over it Kiwiblog

    Hear, hear Red

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  22. DylanReeve (166 comments) says:

    Oh jesus, it’s happened again. I agree with Redbaiter.

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  23. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    …here’s the Herald story about him claiming NZ taxpayers owe him damages of $6 million.

    Maybe they do – no doubt the courts will decide. Which is too bad for us, I guess, but electing a bunch of twats to be the government can come back to bite you in the arse.

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  24. Elaycee (4,393 comments) says:

    Ugly (12.44pm):

    Can you identify any actual crime committed by Dotcom

    Take your pick from here:

    In 1994, he was arrested by German police for trafficking in stolen phone calling card numbers. He was held in custody for a month, released and arrested again on additional hacking charges shortly afterwards. He was eventually convicted of 11 counts of computer fraud, 10 counts of data espionage and an assortment of other charges. He received a two-year suspended sentence – because he was under age at the time the crimes were committed.

    In 2001, Schmitz bought €375,000 worth of shares of the nearly bankrupt company LetsBuyIt.com and subsequently announced his intention to invest €50 million in the company. The announcement caused the share value of LetsBuyIt.com to jump and Schmitz cashed out, making a profit of €1.5 million. One commentator suggested that Schmitz may have been ignorant of the legal ramifications of what he had done, since insider trading was not made a crime in Germany until 1995 and until 2002 prosecutors also had to prove the accused had criminal intent. [EDIT. Cue: Tui Advert]

    Schmitz moved to Thailand to avoid investigation where he was subsequently arrested on behalf of German authorities. He was deported back to Germany where he pleaded guilty to embezzlement in November 2003 and, after five months in jail awaiting trial, again received a suspended sentence (of 20 months). After avoiding a prison sentence for a second time, he left Germany and moved to Hong Kong in late 2003.

    Schmitz registered Kimpire Limited in December 2003, soon after moving there. He set up a network of interlinked companies, including Trendax which was claimed to be an artificial intelligence-driven hedge fund delivering an annual return of at least 25%. However, Trendax was never registered with Hong Kong’s Securities and Futures Commission and the company was legally not allowed to accept investments or to conduct trades. Dotcom was subsequently convicted for failing to disclose his shareholding to the Securities and Futures Commission and was fined 8000 Hong Kong dollars.

    On 5 January 2012, indictments were filed in Virginia in the United States against Dotcom and other company executives with crimes related to online piracy, including racketeering, conspiring to commit copyright infringement, and conspiring to commit money laundering.

    As I said, he is simply an overhyped, convicted fraudster who ‘enjoys’ a disproportionate amount of attention here, courtesy of a lapdog MSM.

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  25. Weihana (4,557 comments) says:

    Keeping Stock (9,148) Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    Quite so Elaycee. Dotcom keeps saying that he wants his day in court, and he is supremely confident that he will be cleared. So why doesn’t he strike a deal with the US authorities to voluntarily go to the USA to clear his name?

    Because New Zealand has its own courts and he is entitled to his day in those courts as well. If Iran charged you with insulting the prophet would you hop on a plane to Tehran to have your day in court? Or would you expect Iran to first establish that they had the right to extradite you in the first place?

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  26. Weihana (4,557 comments) says:

    Yoza (687) Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 12:33 pm

    So if the New Zealand tax payer does have to cough up $6 million, then surely we can pass on that bill to the US agency that ordered the assault on the Dotcom mansion.

    Obviously sarcastic, but it is certainly not the responsibility of the US authorities to ensure our agencies comply with New Zealand law.

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  27. MT_Tinman (3,204 comments) says:

    Elaycee (3,625) Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    As I said, he is simply an overhyped, convicted fraudster who ‘enjoys’ a disproportionate amount of attention here, courtesy of a lapdog MSM.

    I agree completely and note that the fat bastard has claimed $6m. Anyone can do that, doesn’t mean he’ll be paid $6m (or anything at all for that matter).

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  28. Weihana (4,557 comments) says:

    DPF,

    Would be nice if media did more than just print his words as press releases with no scrutiny.

    They printed his claim and printed the counter claim by the Crown that they were acting within the law. Bill English didn’t return calls.

    If you want to them to print “liar, liar, pants on fire” then you can always write a letter to the editor.

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  29. Archer (210 comments) says:

    The Herald are far too busy sending a reporter off to drive around New Zealand in a campervan. I think Simon Dallow called that sort of thing “fluff”.

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  30. Ian McK (237 comments) says:

    This obese media playboy needs to be shunted out of here post haste. He is neither use nor ornament; Fairfax and NZ Herald would be short of news if this criminal slob was gone.

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  31. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Redbaiter 1.09

    ‘Everyone deserves their day in court’

    Correct. Spot on, and the sooner this fat, cunning manipulator is extradited to face Justice
    in the USA the better.

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  32. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Well who made entry into NZ conditional on handing over 10 million? When he was allowed [ by whom? ] into NZ , he was already barred from entering Thailand. Why? You can’t have it both ways ..Rich lads are allowed in..show us ya money honey..and then when they turn out to be a bit different , all the moaning starts..

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  33. CharlieBrown (1,014 comments) says:

    When was the interview with Paul Holmes done? I would say alot of time has passed and changes occurred since that interview that could have made him change his mind.

    How many of you believe that the money laundering charges will be successfull if he is extradited to the USA? Wouldn’t it be a travesty of our laws if those charges aren’t proven and instead he gets sent to prison for 50 years for “copyright infringement” – which isn’t an extraditable offense in NZ.

    For a man to go through what he has in NZ, for a crime (non-violent) he supposedly committed in a country he wasn’t even physically in, is bloody scary. His company was shut down, his possessions “lawfully” confiscated, all for crimes the USA said he did, and all without trial.

    If he leaves a smare on the NZ government for its downright brown-nosing of the USA then so be it.

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  34. Nostalgia-NZ (5,220 comments) says:

    ‘Weihana (3,715) Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    Keeping Stock (9,148) Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    Quite so Elaycee. Dotcom keeps saying that he wants his day in court, and he is supremely confident that he will be cleared. So why doesn’t he strike a deal with the US authorities to voluntarily go to the USA to clear his name?

    Because New Zealand has its own courts and he is entitled to his day in those courts as well. If Iran charged you with insulting the prophet would you hop on a plane to Tehran to have your day in court? Or would you expect Iran to first establish that they had the right to extradite you in the first place?’

    I’m sure KS and Elaycee would be on the plane without delay, in fact it would probably be a race between them. None of that ‘namby pampy’ due process stuff, no concerns about being beheaded, not a single thought that while the allegations might not be true that the intention of the accusers was merely a ‘mistake’ and they were good old folks after all. How uplifting, they’d probably take their own swords of execution just to show how confident they were that they wouldn’t be needed.

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  35. Johnboy (16,651 comments) says:

    Nosty old boy. Any leads on a “Wingfield Birmingham” with “BP 1904″ proof marks? :)

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  36. Nostalgia-NZ (5,220 comments) says:

    A mouse squeaked, chirped, or whatever they do.

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  37. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    National.prostitute

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  38. Dirty Rat (383 comments) says:

    Reading the comments here, its hard to define which ones are directed at that fat useless oath, or which ones directed at Kim Dot Com

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